Lars O Bengtsson wrote:
> 11. RE: The 313 day (Fabio Blanco)
>
> And what happened in Chile on this date 1973?
Please make better quotes: it looks like you are refering to 3/13 or
31/3, while you are in fact refering to 11th of September.
Stefan
Author
Topic: 200304
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Stefan Persson
The 313 day (Fabio Blanco)
Message 16 -
2003-04-01 at 23:36:34
Stefan Persson
The 313 day (Fabio Blanco)
Message 17 -
2003-04-02 at 02:19:00
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>Lars O Bengtsson wrote:
>
No, *I* wrote.
Stefan
>Lars O Bengtsson wrote:
>
No, *I* wrote.
Stefan
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
The 313 day (Fabio Blanco)
Message 18 -
2003-04-02 at 03:00:09
Lars O Bengtsson wrote:
>
> Please make better quotes: it looks like you
> are refering to 3/13 or 31/3, while you are
> in fact refering to 11th of September.
That makes better sense. Lars is referring to Pinochet's take-over - one of
many incidents during the cold war - it apparently took place because
Pinochet and many with him feared Soviet influence or even control over
Chile (a new Cuba) if Salvatore Allende was allowed to stay in power.
Sigvald :-)
>
> Please make better quotes: it looks like you
> are refering to 3/13 or 31/3, while you are
> in fact refering to 11th of September.
That makes better sense. Lars is referring to Pinochet's take-over - one of
many incidents during the cold war - it apparently took place because
Pinochet and many with him feared Soviet influence or even control over
Chile (a new Cuba) if Salvatore Allende was allowed to stay in power.
Sigvald :-)
Fabio Blanco
The 313 day (Fabio Blanco)
Message 19 -
2003-04-02 at 03:12:50
hey, what the problem with me? I didn't write nothing, I say nothing about
Chile, I not ever live in Chile... and I think somebody is quoting something
I never say...
So about is all this? some april fool joke or something? I can see the fun,
sorry...
the Fabio Blanco of the darn subject
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Chile, I not ever live in Chile... and I think somebody is quoting something
I never say...
So about is all this? some april fool joke or something? I can see the fun,
sorry...
the Fabio Blanco of the darn subject
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Carey Furlong
Continuing Gladstone Subscriptions under Gemstone
Message 20 -
2003-04-02 at 04:08:47
> Many of us had incomplete subscriptions to the Gladstone Disney comics
> which we have been assured would be honored now that Gemstone has been
> able to resume publication. However, some of us have moved in the past
> three-and-a-half years.
Whoa, thanks for the info, Linwood. I was facing this same predicament
myself. I have since sent email to the address you showed.
I tried writing Gemstone about this a month-and-a-half ago, but never got a
reply. Perhaps this time I will.
Thanks Again,
Carey Furlong
> which we have been assured would be honored now that Gemstone has been
> able to resume publication. However, some of us have moved in the past
> three-and-a-half years.
Whoa, thanks for the info, Linwood. I was facing this same predicament
myself. I have since sent email to the address you showed.
I tried writing Gemstone about this a month-and-a-half ago, but never got a
reply. Perhaps this time I will.
Thanks Again,
Carey Furlong
SBHSN
Finally! Vol 2, Issue 1
Message 21 -
2003-04-02 at 15:39:31
Wow! After over 1300 issues, the odometer has rolled over to volume 2! And I
had been thinking that the volume 1 designation was a joke. What caused the
old volume to end and the new one to begin?
Steve in Austin
had been thinking that the volume 1 designation was a joke. What caused the
old volume to end and the new one to begin?
Steve in Austin
Frank Bubacz
Teaming of Mickey and Goofy
Message 22 -
2003-04-02 at 19:23:41
Thanks David and Ola for replying.
Ola:
In the daily Gottfredson strip Mickey and Goofy only were a team on 8
stories in the 30:ies and 4 in the 40:ies. I only count longer
adventure stories. Then they teamed up again in some stories in the
50:ies. In most of the daily strip adventure stories Mickey were alone
or with Eega Beeva.
David:
IMHO, the tradition of Mickey and Goofy as an *unbreakable* pair,
*always* together, really starts in the late 1940s and early 1950s at
*Western Publishing*. Why?
Because Western had two fundamental funny animal plot types at the
time: the "Donald Duck" (put-upon lead accompanied by smart kids, bossy
girlfriend, and nasty neighbor) and the "Andy Panda" (straight man hero with
a wacky sidekick, most typically fighting crime). Fitting Mickey and Goofy
into formula two made them easy to write for. So they ran with it.
Myself:
I have to say I find the rather "unspectacular" reasons (for lack of a
better word) leading to this winning team fascinating. Even more fascinating
is the fact that it took nearly 20 years until Mickey and Goofy became the
*unbreakable* duo we know today from the adventure stories.
So, to conclude, it is probably not too far-fetched to say that Gottfredson
laid the seed for the duo, but others provided its breakthrough. Speaking of
Western Publishing, the honour probably goes to the prolific Paul Murry/Carl
Fallberg team. You can count the number of Murry-drawn MM adventure stories
NOT including Goofy on the fingers of one hand. In Italy, the same was true
for the dominant and influential writer Guido Martina, who began to write MM
stories in 1948. He certainly should be given some credit, too.
Frank
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Ola:
In the daily Gottfredson strip Mickey and Goofy only were a team on 8
stories in the 30:ies and 4 in the 40:ies. I only count longer
adventure stories. Then they teamed up again in some stories in the
50:ies. In most of the daily strip adventure stories Mickey were alone
or with Eega Beeva.
David:
IMHO, the tradition of Mickey and Goofy as an *unbreakable* pair,
*always* together, really starts in the late 1940s and early 1950s at
*Western Publishing*. Why?
Because Western had two fundamental funny animal plot types at the
time: the "Donald Duck" (put-upon lead accompanied by smart kids, bossy
girlfriend, and nasty neighbor) and the "Andy Panda" (straight man hero with
a wacky sidekick, most typically fighting crime). Fitting Mickey and Goofy
into formula two made them easy to write for. So they ran with it.
Myself:
I have to say I find the rather "unspectacular" reasons (for lack of a
better word) leading to this winning team fascinating. Even more fascinating
is the fact that it took nearly 20 years until Mickey and Goofy became the
*unbreakable* duo we know today from the adventure stories.
So, to conclude, it is probably not too far-fetched to say that Gottfredson
laid the seed for the duo, but others provided its breakthrough. Speaking of
Western Publishing, the honour probably goes to the prolific Paul Murry/Carl
Fallberg team. You can count the number of Murry-drawn MM adventure stories
NOT including Goofy on the fingers of one hand. In Italy, the same was true
for the dominant and influential writer Guido Martina, who began to write MM
stories in 1948. He certainly should be given some credit, too.
Frank
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Deanmary
More promotion of Gemstone
Message 23 -
2003-04-04 at 02:55:59
Well, the new Gemstone line of Disney comics has gotten another nice
bit of promotion. I buy almost all of my comics through a subcription
company called Westfield Comics. I think that Westfield is the premier
such service in the USA. I got the monthly catalog today and was
thrilled to see that they devoted the entire cover of this month's
catalog to the return of Disney comics! You can see the cover by going
to the following link: http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/hub.html
and then using the "Worlds of Westfield covers" link. It has a nice
picture of William Van Horn's cover for WDC&S #634. Inside the catalog
they give the two new Gemstone comics a "Recommended" caption and even
give an extra discount for WDC&S #634. So the thousands of people who
use Westfield to get their comics each month will be hard pressed to
miss the return of Disney comics! :) I already wrote Westfield and told
them how much I appreciate that they promoted the new Gemstone comics in
such a prominent way. Every bit of promotion helps!
Dean Rekich
bit of promotion. I buy almost all of my comics through a subcription
company called Westfield Comics. I think that Westfield is the premier
such service in the USA. I got the monthly catalog today and was
thrilled to see that they devoted the entire cover of this month's
catalog to the return of Disney comics! You can see the cover by going
to the following link: http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/hub.html
and then using the "Worlds of Westfield covers" link. It has a nice
picture of William Van Horn's cover for WDC&S #634. Inside the catalog
they give the two new Gemstone comics a "Recommended" caption and even
give an extra discount for WDC&S #634. So the thousands of people who
use Westfield to get their comics each month will be hard pressed to
miss the return of Disney comics! :) I already wrote Westfield and told
them how much I appreciate that they promoted the new Gemstone comics in
such a prominent way. Every bit of promotion helps!
Dean Rekich
Danehog
Mickey Mouse in Color... Again!
Message 24 -
2003-04-04 at 03:29:48
I apologize if this has been mentioned here already, but according to <
http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/cod_e-o.html>, the "Mickey Mouse in Color"
hardcover will be back in June, for $231 US.
If they rerelease the popular edition, I'll definitely be buying it...
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/cod_e-o.html>, the "Mickey Mouse in Color"
hardcover will be back in June, for $231 US.
If they rerelease the popular edition, I'll definitely be buying it...
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
Fabio Blanco
Scrooge + rosa
Message 25 -
2003-04-04 at 07:08:16
Kriton Kyrimis
Scrooge + rosa
Message 26 -
2003-04-04 at 08:51:24
FABIO:
> http://previews.diamondcomics.com/products/comics/apr_03/09_unclescrooge.ht
>ml
I couldn't help noticing the logo, which seems identical to that used
by Gladstone (see, e.g., http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone/).
BTW, was that comment that was posted the other day, about Gemstone not
being able to fulfil pending subscriptions from the first issues, an
April Fools' day gag, or should I begin to get worried? Not being able
to get the comics in person, and having recently learned that Gladstone
was the only US comics publisher who sold back issues, I'd hate to miss
Gemstone's first few issues.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"One lump or two?"
"Erm, lump of what?"
"Tea."
-----
> http://previews.diamondcomics.com/products/comics/apr_03/09_unclescrooge.ht
>ml
I couldn't help noticing the logo, which seems identical to that used
by Gladstone (see, e.g., http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone/).
BTW, was that comment that was posted the other day, about Gemstone not
being able to fulfil pending subscriptions from the first issues, an
April Fools' day gag, or should I begin to get worried? Not being able
to get the comics in person, and having recently learned that Gladstone
was the only US comics publisher who sold back issues, I'd hate to miss
Gemstone's first few issues.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"One lump or two?"
"Erm, lump of what?"
"Tea."
-----
Shad Z.
Disney Adventures vol 13, no 3 (April 2002)
Message 27 -
2003-04-04 at 10:51:07
Disney Adventures vol 13, no 3 (April 2002)
Continuing my listing of what's in this month's issue
of the only current source for Disney comics in
America...
Matt Feazel's content page doodles (Dizzy Adventures) are
given story code JZ712.
NOTE: The introduction to this issue's extra-large comics
section claims that all the stories feature dreams
(sometimes as a major part of the plot, sometimes as small
asides). However, I can't see any dream connection in the
Lizzy McGuire story...
NOTE: All of the comics in this issue -- except one --
occupy just the top 3/4 of the page (that's why there
are such odd page counts). The one exception is the Hair
Pair story, which spans the bottom 1/4 of all those pages.
NOTE: Yes, I noticed that story code JZ713 is used twice.
1) Kim Possible: "ChimPossible!", JZ713, 3 pages.
Story by J. Green. Pencils by G. Guler. Inks by J.
Albrecht.
Characters include Kim Possible, Ron Stoppable, Rufus,
Lord Monkey Fist and Bates.
2) Rufus: "Raise the Rufus!", JZ714, 3/4 page.
Story by John Green. Pencils by Tom Bancroft. Inks by
Howard Shum.
Characters include Kim Possible, Ron Stoppable and Rufus.
3) Lilo & Stitch: "Escape Velocity!", JZ715, 3 pages.
Story by M. Stewart. Pencils by A. Zanon. Inks by C.
Giorgilli.
Characters include Lilo, Stitch, Nani.
4) Monsters, Inc.: "Meal Appeal!", JZ713, 3 pages.
Story by F. Strom. Pencils by T. Bancroft. Inks by H.
Shum.
Characters include Mike, Sulley, Mike's Mom.
5) The Lion King: "Simba Size it!", JZ717, 2 1/4 pages.
Story by K. Kuch & S. Scarborough. Art by F. Grellet.
Characters include Simba, Pumbaa and Timon.
6) The Proud Family: "Face the Music!", JZ718, 2 1/4
pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Matt Maley.
Characters include Penny Proud, Dijonay Jones,
LaCienega Boulevardez and Zoey.
7) Spy Kids 2: "Face to Face with F.A.N.G.!", JZ719, 3
pages.
Story by S. Behling. Pencils by C. Norrie. Inks by D.
Krall.
"Spy Kids 2" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Miramax Film Corp.
8) Tony Hawk: "In the Game!", JZ720, 3 pages.
Story by Larry Walkert. Art by Eric Jones.
Tony Hawk is a real person, not a Disney character. But
this story does appear to be Disney-owned...
9) Jet Pack Pets: "Pets in Slumberland!", JZ721, 3
pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish.
"Jet Pack Pets" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Michael Stewart & Garry Black.
10) Lizzie McGuire: "Pop Quiz!", JZ724, 1 1/2 pages.
Story by Wendy Wax & John Green. No art credits.
Characters include Lizzie McGuire's cartoon alter-ego.
"Lizzie McGuire" is a live-action sitcom on the Disney
Channel.
11) Society of Horrors: "Dream On!", JZ723, 2 1/4 pages.
Story and art by Rick Geary.
"Society of Horrors" is not a Disney property, it is
copyright Rick Geary.
12) The Hair Pair: no title, no code, 9 pages.
Story and Pencils by Charly La Greca. Inks by Sam Hiti.
"The Hair Pair" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Charly La Greca.
Shad Z. ^Q^
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Continuing my listing of what's in this month's issue
of the only current source for Disney comics in
America...
Matt Feazel's content page doodles (Dizzy Adventures) are
given story code JZ712.
NOTE: The introduction to this issue's extra-large comics
section claims that all the stories feature dreams
(sometimes as a major part of the plot, sometimes as small
asides). However, I can't see any dream connection in the
Lizzy McGuire story...
NOTE: All of the comics in this issue -- except one --
occupy just the top 3/4 of the page (that's why there
are such odd page counts). The one exception is the Hair
Pair story, which spans the bottom 1/4 of all those pages.
NOTE: Yes, I noticed that story code JZ713 is used twice.
1) Kim Possible: "ChimPossible!", JZ713, 3 pages.
Story by J. Green. Pencils by G. Guler. Inks by J.
Albrecht.
Characters include Kim Possible, Ron Stoppable, Rufus,
Lord Monkey Fist and Bates.
2) Rufus: "Raise the Rufus!", JZ714, 3/4 page.
Story by John Green. Pencils by Tom Bancroft. Inks by
Howard Shum.
Characters include Kim Possible, Ron Stoppable and Rufus.
3) Lilo & Stitch: "Escape Velocity!", JZ715, 3 pages.
Story by M. Stewart. Pencils by A. Zanon. Inks by C.
Giorgilli.
Characters include Lilo, Stitch, Nani.
4) Monsters, Inc.: "Meal Appeal!", JZ713, 3 pages.
Story by F. Strom. Pencils by T. Bancroft. Inks by H.
Shum.
Characters include Mike, Sulley, Mike's Mom.
5) The Lion King: "Simba Size it!", JZ717, 2 1/4 pages.
Story by K. Kuch & S. Scarborough. Art by F. Grellet.
Characters include Simba, Pumbaa and Timon.
6) The Proud Family: "Face the Music!", JZ718, 2 1/4
pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Matt Maley.
Characters include Penny Proud, Dijonay Jones,
LaCienega Boulevardez and Zoey.
7) Spy Kids 2: "Face to Face with F.A.N.G.!", JZ719, 3
pages.
Story by S. Behling. Pencils by C. Norrie. Inks by D.
Krall.
"Spy Kids 2" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Miramax Film Corp.
8) Tony Hawk: "In the Game!", JZ720, 3 pages.
Story by Larry Walkert. Art by Eric Jones.
Tony Hawk is a real person, not a Disney character. But
this story does appear to be Disney-owned...
9) Jet Pack Pets: "Pets in Slumberland!", JZ721, 3
pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish.
"Jet Pack Pets" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Michael Stewart & Garry Black.
10) Lizzie McGuire: "Pop Quiz!", JZ724, 1 1/2 pages.
Story by Wendy Wax & John Green. No art credits.
Characters include Lizzie McGuire's cartoon alter-ego.
"Lizzie McGuire" is a live-action sitcom on the Disney
Channel.
11) Society of Horrors: "Dream On!", JZ723, 2 1/4 pages.
Story and art by Rick Geary.
"Society of Horrors" is not a Disney property, it is
copyright Rick Geary.
12) The Hair Pair: no title, no code, 9 pages.
Story and Pencils by Charly La Greca. Inks by Sam Hiti.
"The Hair Pair" is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Charly La Greca.
Shad Z. ^Q^
(ShadZ at rocketmail.com,ShadZ at email.com,Jackalope7 at go.com)
http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
HONK TO SEE PUPPIES
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More promotion of Gemstone
Message 28 -
2003-04-04 at 14:40:45
Dean wrote:
> You can see the cover by going
> to the following link: http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/hub.html
> and then using the "Worlds of Westfield covers" link.
It took me some time before I found out that this link is hidden under the
"Notes & Notices" tag. This is not the first place where I would look,
so maybe an even more "prominent" way would have had more effect...
> Every bit of promotion helps!
Indeed! 8-)
--Harry.
> You can see the cover by going
> to the following link: http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/hub.html
> and then using the "Worlds of Westfield covers" link.
It took me some time before I found out that this link is hidden under the
"Notes & Notices" tag. This is not the first place where I would look,
so maybe an even more "prominent" way would have had more effect...
> Every bit of promotion helps!
Indeed! 8-)
--Harry.
Wil
Mickey Mouse in Color... Again!
Message 29 -
2003-04-04 at 20:58:53
Dane:
This is not a NEW issue of Mickey Mouse in Color. Rather, this is just the selling off of old
stock. If you want one new, now is the time to get it. I doubt there will be reprints of
this.
Wil
Subject: Mickey Mouse in Color... Again!
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 19:29:48 EST
From: Danehog at aol.com
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
I apologize if this has been mentioned here already, but according to <
http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/cod_e-o.html>, the "Mickey Mouse in Color"
hardcover will be back in June, for $231 US.
If they rerelease the popular edition, I'll definitely be buying it...
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
This is not a NEW issue of Mickey Mouse in Color. Rather, this is just the selling off of old
stock. If you want one new, now is the time to get it. I doubt there will be reprints of
this.
Wil
Subject: Mickey Mouse in Color... Again!
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 19:29:48 EST
From: Danehog at aol.com
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
I apologize if this has been mentioned here already, but according to <
http://westfieldcomics.com/wow/cod_e-o.html>, the "Mickey Mouse in Color"
hardcover will be back in June, for $231 US.
If they rerelease the popular edition, I'll definitely be buying it...
--
Thanks for reading this nonsense,
Dane Martin
Goofy313g
Cannibalism in Barks' stories (mainly to David Gerstein)
Message 30 -
2003-04-04 at 21:07:34
In his Donald Duck universe guide,
( http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/egmont-ddu.html)
David Gerstein tells that the Black Ducks from Barks' wdc 34 and the dogfaced
Tuku
tribe from Barks' wdc 211 are cannibals.
( extract :
>>>[dogface] Cannibals (MOC 41,WDC 211), [duckface] Cannibals (WDC 34) )
But in my version, these two tribes are not cannibals, they don't eat
peaople. The only
canibal tribes in Barks' story I saw were the tribes from Moc 20 (in the
first version, and
then redrawn and not canibal anymore after censor), and from Moc 41 (after
Donald's
words, but it is not proved that they actually eat people)
so have wdc 34 and wdc 211 been censored, or is it a mistake by David
Gertein, or did
he use the word "cannibal" to mean "savage, dangerous" instead of
"anthropophage"
Gilles
( http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/egmont-ddu.html)
David Gerstein tells that the Black Ducks from Barks' wdc 34 and the dogfaced
Tuku
tribe from Barks' wdc 211 are cannibals.
( extract :
>>>[dogface] Cannibals (MOC 41,WDC 211), [duckface] Cannibals (WDC 34) )
But in my version, these two tribes are not cannibals, they don't eat
peaople. The only
canibal tribes in Barks' story I saw were the tribes from Moc 20 (in the
first version, and
then redrawn and not canibal anymore after censor), and from Moc 41 (after
Donald's
words, but it is not proved that they actually eat people)
so have wdc 34 and wdc 211 been censored, or is it a mistake by David
Gertein, or did
he use the word "cannibal" to mean "savage, dangerous" instead of
"anthropophage"
Gilles