>Yes I know that Floyd Gottfredson included Donald in Mouseton. Duckburg
>appeared later.
Is Mouseton really mentioned by name in those strips? Never seen any
original language strips with actual mention of "Mouseton". Panel scans with
them would be nice (if they exists). I've always thought that Gottfredson
never mentioned the name of the city (always referred as plain "city").
Timo
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Timo Ronkainen
Duckburg and Mouseton
Message 181 -
2003-04-27 at 12:47:41
Stefan Persson
Duckburg and Mouseton
Message 182 -
2003-04-27 at 14:13:12
timo ronkainen wrote:
> > Yes I know that Floyd Gottfredson included Donald in Mouseton.
Duckburg
> > appeared later.
> Is Mouseton really mentioned by name in those strips?
Nope.
Stefan
> > Yes I know that Floyd Gottfredson included Donald in Mouseton.
Duckburg
> > appeared later.
> Is Mouseton really mentioned by name in those strips?
Nope.
Stefan
Mattias Hallin
Duckburg and Mouseton
Message 183 -
2003-04-27 at 14:43:12
At 13.13 +0200 03-04-27, Stefan Persson wrote:
>timo ronkainen wrote:
>
>> > Yes I know that Floyd Gottfredson included Donald in Mouseton. Duckburg
>> > appeared later.
>> Is Mouseton really mentioned by name in those strips?
>
>Nope.
When I did research for my article "V?gen till Mouseton" ("The Road
To Mouseton") in NAFS(k)uriren 23 (I think it was), I found two
different names used by Gottfredson for the town where Mickey lives:
"Hometown" and "Mouseville" respectively. It also seemed pretty clear
from various clues and references in the 1930s Gottfredson comics,
that Mickey's home was somewhere on the Eastern seaboard of the
United States.
All the best,
/Mattias
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>timo ronkainen wrote:
>
>> > Yes I know that Floyd Gottfredson included Donald in Mouseton. Duckburg
>> > appeared later.
>> Is Mouseton really mentioned by name in those strips?
>
>Nope.
When I did research for my article "V?gen till Mouseton" ("The Road
To Mouseton") in NAFS(k)uriren 23 (I think it was), I found two
different names used by Gottfredson for the town where Mickey lives:
"Hometown" and "Mouseville" respectively. It also seemed pretty clear
from various clues and references in the 1930s Gottfredson comics,
that Mickey's home was somewhere on the Eastern seaboard of the
United States.
All the best,
/Mattias
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Mattias Hallin
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Message 184 -
2003-04-27 at 15:38:10
At 14.00 +0100 03-04-27, Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>OK, but who introduced the name "Mouseton" then? Paul Murry?
As far as I can remember (it's been a few years since I wrote that
article), the earliest references I could find to "Mouseton" was in
newly produced comics, to the best of my recollection published by
Gladstone and/or Disney in the late 1980s/early 1990s. But of this I
am no longer sure -- as i said, it's been more than a few years since
I looked into the matter. But I seem to recall finding that
"Mouseton" was a fairly new name for Mickey's hometown.
If anyone knows better, please correct me!
All the best,
/Mattias
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>OK, but who introduced the name "Mouseton" then? Paul Murry?
As far as I can remember (it's been a few years since I wrote that
article), the earliest references I could find to "Mouseton" was in
newly produced comics, to the best of my recollection published by
Gladstone and/or Disney in the late 1980s/early 1990s. But of this I
am no longer sure -- as i said, it's been more than a few years since
I looked into the matter. But I seem to recall finding that
"Mouseton" was a fairly new name for Mickey's hometown.
If anyone knows better, please correct me!
All the best,
/Mattias
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Duckburg and Mouseton
Message 185 -
2003-04-27 at 16:00:08
Mattias Hallin <cmhallin at algonet.se> wrote:
> When I did research for my article "V?gen till
> Mouseton" ("The Road To Mouseton"") in
> NAFS(k)uriren 23 (I think it was), I found two
> different names used by Gottfredson for the
> town where Mickey lives: "Hometown" and
> "Mouseville" respectively.
OK, but who introduced the name "Mouseton" then? Paul Murry?
> It also seemed pretty clear from various clues
> and references in the 1930s Gottfredson comics,
> that Mickey's home was somewhere on the Eastern
> seaboard of the United States.
While Carl Barks and later Don Rosa has placed Duckburg on the Western coast
of the USA. Another clear indication that Mickey and Donald don't live in
the same city.
Sigvald :-)
> When I did research for my article "V?gen till
> Mouseton" ("The Road To Mouseton"") in
> NAFS(k)uriren 23 (I think it was), I found two
> different names used by Gottfredson for the
> town where Mickey lives: "Hometown" and
> "Mouseville" respectively.
OK, but who introduced the name "Mouseton" then? Paul Murry?
> It also seemed pretty clear from various clues
> and references in the 1930s Gottfredson comics,
> that Mickey's home was somewhere on the Eastern
> seaboard of the United States.
While Carl Barks and later Don Rosa has placed Duckburg on the Western coast
of the USA. Another clear indication that Mickey and Donald don't live in
the same city.
Sigvald :-)
Timo Ronkainen
Duckburg and Mouseton
Message 186 -
2003-04-27 at 16:33:40
Mattias:
>from various clues and references in the 1930s Gottfredson comics, that
>Mickey's home was somewhere on the Eastern seaboard of the United States.
Quite interesting! Can you be more specific? What kind of clues he gave?
Timo
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>from various clues and references in the 1930s Gottfredson comics, that
>Mickey's home was somewhere on the Eastern seaboard of the United States.
Quite interesting! Can you be more specific? What kind of clues he gave?
Timo
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Mattias Hallin
Duckburg and Mouseton
Message 187 -
2003-04-27 at 18:07:27
At 16.33 +0300 03-04-27, timo ronkainen wrote:
>Mattias:
>>from various clues and references in the 1930s Gottfredson comics,
>>that Mickey's home was somewhere on the Eastern seaboard of the
>>United States.
>
>Quite interesting! Can you be more specific? What kind of clues he gave?
Here are a few...
On a seaboard: In "Captive Castaway" (1934), there's a scene where a
ship with Mickey on board steams into port under the heading "Home at
last".
In the eastern United States: e.g. "The Bat Bandit of Inferno Gulch"
(1934) where Mickey and gang travels west to get to the western parts
of the US, on a train called the the "Western Limited", and then to
go back home gets on another train called the "Eastern Special".
Furthermore, the conductor on the second train tells the passengers
how the bat bandit has been caught: "They say a little feller f'm the
East half his size run 'im ragged and then licked the shirt off'n
'im"!
It thus seems fairly conclusive to me that Mickey can hardly be
living in Calisota on the US Westcoast...
All the best,
/Mattias
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>Mattias:
>>from various clues and references in the 1930s Gottfredson comics,
>>that Mickey's home was somewhere on the Eastern seaboard of the
>>United States.
>
>Quite interesting! Can you be more specific? What kind of clues he gave?
Here are a few...
On a seaboard: In "Captive Castaway" (1934), there's a scene where a
ship with Mickey on board steams into port under the heading "Home at
last".
In the eastern United States: e.g. "The Bat Bandit of Inferno Gulch"
(1934) where Mickey and gang travels west to get to the western parts
of the US, on a train called the the "Western Limited", and then to
go back home gets on another train called the "Eastern Special".
Furthermore, the conductor on the second train tells the passengers
how the bat bandit has been caught: "They say a little feller f'm the
East half his size run 'im ragged and then licked the shirt off'n
'im"!
It thus seems fairly conclusive to me that Mickey can hardly be
living in Calisota on the US Westcoast...
All the best,
/Mattias
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Xephyr
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Message 188 -
2003-04-28 at 11:08:31
David said:
> Actually, what you saw appears to have been inspired by the "modern"
> April, May and June as presently drawn for the Dutch comics, where the
> nieces are particularly popular as characters. In Holland today, one
> niece has a ponytail, another pigtails, and the third a mop-top.
The hair style changes seem similar to the Nephews appearances as in the
cartoon series Quack Pack & HOM. I just assumed the animators were
immitating Daisy's new hairstyle which is likewise pony-tailed.
http://www.teemings.com/shorts/disney/houseofmouse/graphics/houseofmouse2.jp
g
Do you happen to have an example of the Nieces new "look" in Dutch comics?
Thanks,
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> Actually, what you saw appears to have been inspired by the "modern"
> April, May and June as presently drawn for the Dutch comics, where the
> nieces are particularly popular as characters. In Holland today, one
> niece has a ponytail, another pigtails, and the third a mop-top.
The hair style changes seem similar to the Nephews appearances as in the
cartoon series Quack Pack & HOM. I just assumed the animators were
immitating Daisy's new hairstyle which is likewise pony-tailed.
http://www.teemings.com/shorts/disney/houseofmouse/graphics/houseofmouse2.jp
g
Do you happen to have an example of the Nieces new "look" in Dutch comics?
Thanks,
Richard Bellacera ??????
FLEXTRONICS Mfg. (Shanghai) Co., Ltd.
No. 310 Fa Sai Rd.,
Free Trade Zone Pudong,
Shanghai, P.R.C. 200131
Ph: 86-21-5064-4678 Ex.2046
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Duckburg and Mouseton
Message 189 -
2003-04-28 at 15:16:49
Mattias, Sigvald, and others:
>> When I did research for my article "V?gen till
>> Mouseton ("The Road To Mouseton") in
>> NAFS(k)uriren 23 (I think it was), I found two
>> different names used by Gottfredson for the
>> town where Mickey lives: "Hometown" and
>> "Mouseville" respectively.
>
>OK, but who introduced the name "Mouseton" then? Paul Murry?
Paul Murry was mainly an artist, Sigvald, and almost never wrote the
stories he drew. Most recurring themes and personalities in Murry stories
were really the creations of Murry's writers- Carl Fallberg, Don Christensen
and others.
That said, I know about the origin of Mouseton, and it has nothing
to do with Murry or his writers.
From the 1960s to the 1980s, the S-coded Disney Studio-produced
stories set Mickey's adventures in Mouseville, taking their influence from
Gottfredson.
And in 1990, Disney Comics, Inc., with many former S-code people on
staff, planned to keep using Mouseville in the new Mickey stories they were
starting to make at the time.
What happened instead was that Disney ran into legal trouble with
Viacom, which had registered the name Mouseville as the home town of the
cartoon character Mighty Mouse (!). So Disney was forced to stop using it.
Disney chose the name Mouseton as a substitute, and in some of
Disney's international publishing guides, they use it to this day.
David
>> When I did research for my article "V?gen till
>> Mouseton ("The Road To Mouseton") in
>> NAFS(k)uriren 23 (I think it was), I found two
>> different names used by Gottfredson for the
>> town where Mickey lives: "Hometown" and
>> "Mouseville" respectively.
>
>OK, but who introduced the name "Mouseton" then? Paul Murry?
Paul Murry was mainly an artist, Sigvald, and almost never wrote the
stories he drew. Most recurring themes and personalities in Murry stories
were really the creations of Murry's writers- Carl Fallberg, Don Christensen
and others.
That said, I know about the origin of Mouseton, and it has nothing
to do with Murry or his writers.
From the 1960s to the 1980s, the S-coded Disney Studio-produced
stories set Mickey's adventures in Mouseville, taking their influence from
Gottfredson.
And in 1990, Disney Comics, Inc., with many former S-code people on
staff, planned to keep using Mouseville in the new Mickey stories they were
starting to make at the time.
What happened instead was that Disney ran into legal trouble with
Viacom, which had registered the name Mouseville as the home town of the
cartoon character Mighty Mouse (!). So Disney was forced to stop using it.
Disney chose the name Mouseton as a substitute, and in some of
Disney's international publishing guides, they use it to this day.
David
Crocker, John
What story?
Message 190 -
2003-04-28 at 16:50:02
>> I am looking for a Story about when the Beagle Boys stole all of Scrooges
>> money. Scrooge found
>> a penny on the ground, and made his fortune all over again.
>It's remaind me a story ,,Kaczor Donald i Kamien Filozoficzny" (it's Polish
>title I don't know orginal one) in wich Donald change ol Scrooges money in
>to lead and Scrooge made he's fortune all Over agien.
>Annny way I hait story's like dis, becous Scrooge's money is special for him
>becous evry Dime conter's a memory. Sow if he woudl lost it, it like he
>woudl lost a have of his live.
I personally like stories like this...one just simply has to be willing to see those stories as "one-timers." Their purpose is not to tell the history of the ducks, but merely tell a story based on a quality(ies) of the ducks. In the case of the stories that have been mentioned about Scrooge losing his money and then regaining it again, I think that these are great stories showing Scrooge's resiliency and abilities as a businessman. You can't ruin him by simply taking his money because he knows how to make money no matter what.
Now, can anyone tell me if there has been a story in which someone has stolen something else of Scrooge's, like his confidence or reputation that made him struggle? Just curious.
That's all.
John Crocker.
>> money. Scrooge found
>> a penny on the ground, and made his fortune all over again.
>It's remaind me a story ,,Kaczor Donald i Kamien Filozoficzny" (it's Polish
>title I don't know orginal one) in wich Donald change ol Scrooges money in
>to lead and Scrooge made he's fortune all Over agien.
>Annny way I hait story's like dis, becous Scrooge's money is special for him
>becous evry Dime conter's a memory. Sow if he woudl lost it, it like he
>woudl lost a have of his live.
I personally like stories like this...one just simply has to be willing to see those stories as "one-timers." Their purpose is not to tell the history of the ducks, but merely tell a story based on a quality(ies) of the ducks. In the case of the stories that have been mentioned about Scrooge losing his money and then regaining it again, I think that these are great stories showing Scrooge's resiliency and abilities as a businessman. You can't ruin him by simply taking his money because he knows how to make money no matter what.
Now, can anyone tell me if there has been a story in which someone has stolen something else of Scrooge's, like his confidence or reputation that made him struggle? Just curious.
That's all.
John Crocker.
Halsten Aastebol
What story?
Message 191 -
2003-04-28 at 17:03:18
At 08:50 28.04.2003 -0500, Crocker, John wrote:
>Now, can anyone tell me if there has been a story in which someone has
>stolen something else of Scrooge's, like his confidence or reputation that
>made him struggle? Just curious.
Well I think we can say that Flintheart Glomgold tried to steal part of his
reputation by claiming to be the richest duck in the world. That definitely
made him fight back.
Halsten
>Now, can anyone tell me if there has been a story in which someone has
>stolen something else of Scrooge's, like his confidence or reputation that
>made him struggle? Just curious.
Well I think we can say that Flintheart Glomgold tried to steal part of his
reputation by claiming to be the richest duck in the world. That definitely
made him fight back.
Halsten
H.W.Fluks
AM&J Animated (was: Animated Li'l Wolf (was Gladstone))
Message 192 -
2003-04-28 at 22:43:24
Rich:
> Do you happen to have an example of the Nieces new "look" in
> Dutch comics?
On http://mars.spaceports.com/~ddossier/old/ddd.htm
scroll all the way down to KATRIEN, and click for instance on KA2001.
Then you can see some covers with the new "Dutch" AMJ look.
--Harry.
> Do you happen to have an example of the Nieces new "look" in
> Dutch comics?
On http://mars.spaceports.com/~ddossier/old/ddd.htm
scroll all the way down to KATRIEN, and click for instance on KA2001.
Then you can see some covers with the new "Dutch" AMJ look.
--Harry.
Xephyr
AM&J Animated (was: Animated Li'l Wolf (was Gladstone))
Message 193 -
2003-04-29 at 03:46:34
Harry:
> On http://mars.spaceports.com/~ddossier/old/ddd.htm
> scroll all the way down to KATRIEN, and click for instance
> on KA2001.
> Then you can see some covers with the new "Dutch" AMJ look.
Interesting. Thanks Harry. BTW, I noticed that many of the
covers depict Daisy with an orange cat. Is this a truly
recurring character? If so what is the cat's name. Is it
a male or female, and what sort of role does it play in
Daisy and the Nieces' lives? Also, is there any relationship
between that cat and Donald's cat, Tabby?
Thanks,
Rich
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> On http://mars.spaceports.com/~ddossier/old/ddd.htm
> scroll all the way down to KATRIEN, and click for instance
> on KA2001.
> Then you can see some covers with the new "Dutch" AMJ look.
Interesting. Thanks Harry. BTW, I noticed that many of the
covers depict Daisy with an orange cat. Is this a truly
recurring character? If so what is the cat's name. Is it
a male or female, and what sort of role does it play in
Daisy and the Nieces' lives? Also, is there any relationship
between that cat and Donald's cat, Tabby?
Thanks,
Rich
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Daisy's Dutch cat
Message 194 -
2003-04-29 at 14:09:16
Rich:
> I noticed that many of the
> covers depict Daisy with an orange cat. Is this a truly
> recurring character?
Yes. It was introduced a few years ago when Daisy got her own magazine in Holland.
The cat's name was subject to a contest. The winning name is Minet, a female name.
(I will put her occurrences in Inducks, eventually.)
> what sort of role does it play in
> Daisy and the Nieces' lives? Also, is there any relationship
> between that cat and Donald's cat, Tabby?
I think Tabby does not exist in Daisy's "Dutch world".
Minet is a silent animal. I believe she doesn't even think (as Tabby does).
--Harry.
> I noticed that many of the
> covers depict Daisy with an orange cat. Is this a truly
> recurring character?
Yes. It was introduced a few years ago when Daisy got her own magazine in Holland.
The cat's name was subject to a contest. The winning name is Minet, a female name.
(I will put her occurrences in Inducks, eventually.)
> what sort of role does it play in
> Daisy and the Nieces' lives? Also, is there any relationship
> between that cat and Donald's cat, Tabby?
I think Tabby does not exist in Daisy's "Dutch world".
Minet is a silent animal. I believe she doesn't even think (as Tabby does).
--Harry.
Blair Frodelius
Barks Trivia
Message 195 -
2003-04-29 at 18:20:52
My kids are hooked on the Barks Disney comics, and we often test each other's knowledge of Bark's stories. Can anyone tell me if there are any online trivia questions for these stories? I'm running out of good questions. :)
Thanks!
Blair Frodelius
Thanks!
Blair Frodelius