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Don Rosa
MIKE: (who is still putting "A Little Something Special" through an
electron microscope...)

> Not so fast, Don! You've also drawn Flintheart's bill wrong (he
> should have a Gladstone Gander/Clinton Coot kinda bill) and that, I dare
> say, is a bigger mistake. And you make it through the story. (unless you
> suddenly can come up with something about your own view of the duck
> universe or how he's just testing Magica's transformation wand...)

No, you're right -- I DID purposely draw Flintheart's bill different in
that story. Byron should back me up on this -- when he looked at my pencils
prior to my inking, he said that Flintheart's bill "looked funny". I told
him that I draw FG's bill the way that Barks did, which is, as you say,
like Gladstone's, without the rounded ridge on the end. But I guess Byron
has been looking at Egmont FG's long enough now that he wants FG to look
the Egmont way, so I figured it wasn't worth me giving him grief over, so I
just put the rounded rib on FG's bill when I inked. But you still won't
ever see me have FG being scottish or living anywhere but South Africa --
that's a fundamental Barksian fact that I'll stick to.

> > Yes, it was stated by $crooge in some old story that he built all the
> > sewers under Duckburg, and that tale showed him expertly running
through
> > them. (Forgive me if I don't name the story off-hand.)
> A Barks story?

!!! Of course! Those are the only ones I "see".

> But the first time you show it (the Cornelius Coot statue) it seems
> to be on the wrong side of the Money Bin. Page 2, panel 3. It's on the
> left of the Bin while all the other time it's on the right.

Your question mystifies me. In only two panels of that story do I show the
statue and the Bin in the same panel so that you can tell which side it
might be on, and in both cases (the two half-page panels) the statue is to
the rear left of the Bin. In the panel you mention you might be assuming
$crooge is walking down the front of his Hill, in which case the statue
seems to be to the right, not the left as you say. But since I wanted the
statue on the right side of that panel, I decide that $crooge has circled
around to the rear side of his Hill (as would be logical if he wanted to go
in that direction, rather than walk all the way down the front, then walk
around the block to go the other way) so that the statue is still to the
rear-left as in the rest of the story. I think you must have said "right"
when you meant "left" and vice-versa.
I'll grant you that, for my lay-out purposes, I have the statue facing the
rear-left of the Bin in all cases, *except* the last panel where it seems
to have turned about 90 degrees so that I can show it facing the reader,
and it's also looking somewhat smaller than before. I knew this was
incorrect (and I even mentioned it to Byron when I sent him the pencils),
but we decided the dramatic needs of the final panel were more important.
Is this sort of stuff really worth all this verbage?

> I thought that after Scrooge left Klondike he went on opening
> factories and making money for a few years, then went to Scotland to
> settle there, and only after all that he went to Duckburg for the first
> time!

I don't know what your translator put into my script in Finland, but in my
"Lo$" it is shown that $crooge stayed in the Klondike until 1902 at which
time he went directly to Scotland, stayed for no more than one or two days,
then went straight to Calisota.

> > No, please... (sob)... let me tend to the upkeep of my home and the
rearing
> > of my children, I beseech you!
> I'm sorry, Mister Rosa. I've been hired by a colleague who your
> loss of time would become his profit. Mister Van H... uh, let us call him
> "Mister Bill" pays me really well to talk nonsence to you and most other
> people on the list.

I know you're only kidding, but no other writers or artists at Egmont could
ever be "threatened" by my production rate, nor would they benefit from my
disappearance. I am their slowest guy! The number of pages I turn out per
year is negligible to the Egmont needs.

JONATHAN: (who sez)
> We've often talked about Duck references popping up in newspaper comic
> strips every now and then in the past. Here's a new one for you to
scratch
> your heads over. Well, not a Duck coincidence, but a Mouse coincidence.
Has
> anyone seen the storyline of GASOLINE ALLEY for the past few weeks? Let's
> say this much--if it isn't a rip-off of Gottfredson's "Mickey Mouse as
the
> Monarch of Medioka," I'll eat it--smokestacks and all!

Wasn't "Monarch of Medioka" a rip-off of ("inspired by") Anthony Hope's
"The Prisoner of Zenda", one of the most famous and most imitated adventure
stories of all time?
JALustig
Dave:

<<I'd love the chance to get together and yak. Bob Foster is looking to
hook up, too. Don't know when or where, though.
>>

Yes, I'd definitely like to get together as well. I'll e-mail you privately.
Thanks for the words of welcome. I wish I could go to the CAPS meetings, but
I'm flying out Monday morning.

--John Lustig
Christer Hanssen
Don:

In the norwegian and probably the other european comics which have
published your "A little something spesial" there is a double poster with
on one side the poster which was published in Piscou magizine, but on the
other a new one. Was this requested for the story or was it something you
initiated? Is there a D.U.C.K. there I haven't found one, but then I
haven't before to and it was right in front of my nose!

~Christer
Per Starback
Yes, that's from Flintheart Glomgold's second appearance, "The Money
Champ" in US 27. The seller of that miracle mixture says that it's "a
little trick [he] discovered while practicing medicine among the
jivaro head hunters!"
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/>
"How could all those big words be written on such a *small* paper?"
Sven-Oliver Troschke
Since I am still quite new to this ML (what are 9 months out
of 5 years, finally?) I would like to ask a somewhat nostalgic
question. I am sure many other newcomers may be inter-
ested as well. How did it happen that Don Rosa entered this
mailing list? Was he a member from the beginning, was he
invited to join, did he stumble over this list on the internet,
or what? Of course the same applies to the other writers,
artists, letterers, colorists, production managers and so on.

Maybe somebody even has the date handy, when Don Rosa
joined, so that whoever is interested could dive into the
archives.

Have a nice day
Sven
Harry Fluks
Per wrote, about Jivaro Juice:

> that's from Flintheart Glomgold's second appearance, "The Money
> Champ" in US 27.

And a few days ago, Don wrote:

> it was stated by $crooge in some old story that he built all the
> sewers under Duckburg, and that tale showed him expertly running through
> them. (Forgive me if I don't name the story off-hand.)

I think this is the same story (US 27)!
So this is where the two threads come together (talking about a
Glomgold reference 8-)...

--Harry.
Harry Fluks
JOHN LUSTIG:

Welcome back. I remember that one of the reasons you left was
a health problem in your family. I hope things are going better now.

WILMER:

> (3.b.4) Old Frisian gave rise to modern Frisian.

There are in fact a few related Frisian languages in Northern Germany:
in Saterland, Nordfriesland and probably Helgoland. The other areas
where the Frisians lived in ancient times, were Saxonised. For instance
the German Ostfriesland, and the Dutch Groningen, where I come from.

> Jan Oort and Gerard Kuiper. Are either of those names Frisian?

No, to me Oort and Kuiper do not sound Frisian (nor do Jan or Gerard).
Jippes sounds Frisian, so though Daan was born in Amsterdam, his
ancestors must have been Frisian.
Both the names Ubbe and Iwwerks sounds very Frisian, so Ub Iwerks
must have has Frisian ancestors (if not parents).

> I'm just curious about who are the famous Frisians

I think you've mentioned them all... At least I think you wouldn't
know Grutte Pyr (which translates to "Big Pete"), Bernlef or Gysbert
Japicks.

--Harry.

Policeman: "They went desertward upon camels! I, in person, opened the
gates to them!"
Mickey: "Y' dumb ox! She was bein' kidnaped!"
Policeman: "Ah, very good! We're much pleased to have such pipple
leave our fair city!"
(1934)
JALustig
Dave:

I tried to send you some e-mail privately, but since it bounced back. I'm
going to post the gist of it here. Hope to see you and everyone else in San
Diego:

Hi! I don't really know my plans yet, but I'd definitely like to get
together. I think I'm going to be doing a signing each day at the Comics
Buyer's Guide table. (I don't know the times yet.) I'm also going to try and
make the mailing list breakfast on Friday morning--I wish it was a little
later--and hopefully your panel as well. (It's hard to make any definite
plans until I see the convention schedule, but if you've got a suggestion on
when and where to meet let me know.)

--John Lustig
Per Starback
As I still have US 27 in front of me (for earlier quoting purposes),
I looked it up, but no, it's not stated that Scrooge built all the
sewers under Duckburg in US 27. Scrooge and Donald are running
through storm drains, not sewers, and they had to go to the Hall of
Records to find the original plans of the airport to know their way.
--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/>
"I want to see if a certain idea of mine makes *sense*!"

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Per Starback
Sven asked:
> How did it happen that Don Rosa entered this mailing list? Was he a
> member from the beginning, was he invited to join, did he stumble
> over this list on the internet, or what? Of course the same applies
> to the other writers, artists, letterers, colorists, production
> managers and so on.

Time for a list history lesson! This mailing list started August 3,
1992. At the beginning there were only fans, and no pros on the list.
Hm, except for David as he already had started working for Gladstone
by then.

Don joined the list April 15, 1993. He then had a Compuserve account,
and when subscribing, another subscriber from Compuserve (James
Williams) wrote that he assumed I knew that Don Rosa also had an
account there. I didn't though, but I wrote and told Don about the
list, and he joined it.

Other writers, editors, and other pros have joined later. I guess
they have heard of the list the same ways other subscribers have.
I have often (especially earlier) mentioned the list to people when I
happened to notice that they had email addresses, but not only pros,
but also fans I knew the names of from fanzines etc., as well as
people I didn't know about but who evidently were interested, judging
by what they had written in some other forum.

Soon afterwards (April 20) the first digests of the list appeared with
only the new subscribers from Compuserve as recipients, James and Don.
The reason was that Compuserve charged per message their customers
got from Internet, so lots of small mails weren't very practical.
Before that all subscribers got each message in a separate mail. (It
took a couple of years before I made that form a subscription the
default one. Both are still available.)

--
Per Starback <(Email removed)> <http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/>
"Newsflash!
Don Rosa is now a member of this mailing list!
(so watch your tongues :-)"
Leonardo Gori
Hi!

MARCO:

>>Please tell me **who** took the photo, so I can, at least, write a line on
>>my web page!

>Well, the's no need, really! ;-)

OK, Marco, thanks a lot, and excuse me! Give a look to my web site ;-)

bye

Leonardo
Leonardo Gori

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Per Starback
John Lustig wrote:
> I'm also going to try and make the mailing list breakfast on Friday
> morning--

Will there be a breakfast at San Diego Comicon on Friday? Or
Saturday? I never saw a definite consenus saying "yes, now we have
decided on this day". I fear there will be two breakfasts now...
Per Starback
Welcome back, John!
Please tell us what you can about "Somewhere in Nowhere"!
Don Rosa
> From: Christer Hanssen
> Don:
> In the norwegian and probably the other european comics which have
> published your "A little something spesial" there is a double poster with
> on one side the poster which was published in Piscou magizine, but on the
> other a new one. Was this requested for the story or was it something you
> initiated? Is there a D.U.C.K. there I haven't found one, but then I
> haven't before to and it was right in front of my nose!

CHRISTER:
The poster that you'd seen in PICSOU with all the heads was the original
version of the special cover I did for Gladstone's U$#300. Disney wouldn't
allow them to print it in it's original form (probably due to too many
"ethnic" looking politically-incorrect faces?), but it has since appeared
in its original form in France, Greece, Norway, and perhaps elsewhere.
The other side of the poster was a cover I did for that "A Little Something
Special" story -- they intended to use it as the cover of the normal
monthly supplementary weekly DD & CO. issue which would use that story in
the Egmont countries, but after I did it they seem to have gone to the idea
of 96-page issues rather than supplement issues... so the cover had to
become a poster. ...and it sure suffered for the fact! Look closely at
the line work on my art, then look closely at the line work on the
lettering Egmont added. The lettering lines are crisp and smooth while my
lines are all jagged and rough (even though I take great pains to draw them
as smooth as inky silk). This is due to whatever sort of computer-software
Egmont seems to use on art... I hope they can improve this someday. In
particular look at the banner on the Coot statue -- the "50" (which I drew)
is jaggedy, the other lettering (added by Egmont) is perfect.
You'll see the art better as the cover on the upcoming Gladstone issue
which features that story... I think I also mentioned that the Gladstone
issue will have an extra page added to the story -- no new plot, just
"breathing room".
Anyway, yes, there is a jaggedy "D.U.C.K." on there somewhere. On the other
poster, too, of course.
Leonardo Gori
Hi, all!

If anyone is interested, the group photo taken at Roma ("Expocartoon") with
Don Rosa, Fabio Gadducci, Lidia Cannatella and many others is on my web
page (sorry, in b/w)

All the best
Leonardo Gori

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