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Harry Fluks
MIKKO:

> [to Don] Was it the one with FG and $crooge and the two heaps of money?

That was also what I was thinking ("The Money Champ", US 27), but
as Per pointed out, that's not the one.

> In 1994 you compiled a "Don Rosa on Don Rosa" file of messages Don
> had sent to the list. Have you been updating it to the present and is the
> latest version available somewhere?

I am working on an update very slowly - Don has mailed a lot during the last
three years, and sorting that all out takes more time than I thought!
When I'm finished, I'll let you (i.e. the list) know; I hope it's somewhere
this year.

VELI-MATTI:

> Does the artmaker paint the colours while the drawing job or do
> they put those colours afterwards?

The colouring is usually done by separate artists. And most of the time,
the Europeans use different colours from the USA, and vice versa.

RIK:

> I've seen this mentioned before in the list and in one of the
> copies of the books I've got now I did see a sign I think in the Money Bin's
> yard that said "D.U.C.K" Please enlighten?

Don hides a dedication in the first panel of every story, and on most of
his covers. It's D.U.C.K. and it means "Dedicated to Unca Carl from Keno"
(Keno is Don's first name, and Unca Carl is Carl Barks).
Sometimes the D.U.C.K. is plain text (like on the sign you mentioned),
but most of the time the letters are hidden somewhere in the background,
and you have to look very hard to recognise them. Check out Dan Shane's
Uncle Scrooge webpages for some examples where D.U.C.K.
can be found.
There are, however, a few stories where D.U.C.K. does *not* appear, so
a search for them *might* be unsuccessful...

ARTHUR:

> COuld you please go to my website and check out
> Special Features -> Artists

I tried, but my old-fashioned browser does not support frames.
I tried to download a better one, but your Microsoft link does not
work, and your Netscape link gave me an "unrecoverable application
error". Apparently, my old browser doesn't like it when I try to
download a new one... 8-)
BTW, the GIFs that the non-frame versions of your pages try to
use, do not exist.

SATU:
> in that company, I don't have any reason to feel inferior!

Having been on this List since its beginning, I can't imagine how
it feels to be new here. For that reason (and because I like the
artist 8-), I recently joined another mailing list, "Amarok" (for
fans of Mike Oldfield). To my amazement, the kinds of discussions
are very similar to the ones on this list (except that Mike is no
member...). Next week, I think I'll write my first message, introducing
myself and asking my first newbie questions... 8-)

To come back to your remark: *noone* has any reason to feel
inferior! *You* know that, but I hope all other list members are aware
of that too!

> Something about myself then: I'm 29 years old female from Finland; I'm not
> sure whether my age makes me young or old on this list

I think you're quite average for a list member, and quite old for a student... 8-)

> Now I just have to ask: are there REALLY hidden D.U.C.K:s at the beginning
> of of every Rosa-story, includin the older ones?? The reason I'm asking is
> of course that it's DRIVING ME NUTS that I can't find them!!

See my previous remark to Rik. If you're in doubt, just ask!
(Some of the oldest stories have no D.U.C.K., or not in the first panel.)

--Harry.
Dave Rawson
rob gibson <PPP:(Email removed)>:
> the words "Jivaro Juice" and the image of a couple of Barks drawn
> flasks popped into my head.

Seems like exactly the kinda stuff that Donald should never get his
hands on, but probably couldn't avoid if it were around.

Fabrizio <(Email removed)>:
> issue #4 of "I Maestri Disney" (out in August) will feature Giorgio
> Cavazzano's "Casablanca", here at its first reprint, among other works
> by him.

Is there anyway to transfer my eyeteeth or other suitable coin of the
realm for a copy of same?

(Email removed) (Wilmer Rivers):
> since Old Frisian and Old English were "siblings", modern Frisian is
> in fact rather close to Old English, actually more so than is modern
> English.

And proving that there's always someone on this mailing list who has an
answer for almost anything! Y'all are sorta the Junior Woodchuck's tome
come to life.

Don Rosa <(Email removed)>:
> To Mike -- I know you're only kidding, but no other writers or artists
> at Egmont could ever be "threatened" by my production rate, nor would
> they benefit from my disappearance.

Indeed, we'd all be greatly diminished, thereby. I can't speak for other
creators, but I wait as ardently as any fan for each new story. It's not
often I laugh out loud, but you often make visually plausible the most
tortured physical straits (eg. That poor, poor mountie; and Magica with
the Silver Platter leap to mind.)

Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>:
> Gysbert Japicks

Goodness but this is a wonderful name for a character! Are there any
notable traits claimed by Frislanders (or quietly alluded to by their
detractors from "competeing" regions of the Netherlands)?

--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm

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Ram Samudrala
I decided to address a bunch of issues together as one:

Having come across more of Lockman's work, I sorta take back what I
said earlier. While I still don't like what I see, it's not as bad as
I first thought (the first place where I even noticed it was Mailbox
Blues).

Was Walt Disney Giant cancelled? If so, at what issue #?

I read a lot of other "vigilante" comic books as well, and I like them
(the comics I love in general as much Disney are characters created by
Jim Starlin, mainly Adam Warlock, Spawn by Todd McFarlane, Spectre,
...). I feel some of comments made by people like Barks (and many
others who prefer Disney or Asterix or Tintin) about those comic books
are just as close-minded as those people into Spiderman pooh-poohing
Disney comic books. In terms of what I get out of it, which is more
than entertainment, it's basically the same thing to me.

While we're on the topic, my "peers" can't believe I read comic books
at my age (25) and doing what I do. I had to show them all Geoffrey
Blum's psychoanalysing in the Carl Barks Libraries in Colour to argue
that there is merit to this stuff. I presume others have the same
problem?

I am currently trying to round up a full set of the Carl Barks Library
of Walt Disney Comics and Stories in Colour. Are all the issues out
yet? Does anyone have any idea of how long the entire set of Donald
Duck Adventures and Uncle Scrooge Adventurs (I believe they're 25 and
56 issues each?) will be offered for sale? Together with the 9 issue
set which includes the 6 Gyro Gearloose albums, does this cover every
Barks story?

Thanks for any help!

--Ram

(Email removed) || http://www.ram.org || http://www.twisted-helices.com/th
God is a conjecture; but I desire that your conjectures should not reach
beyond your creative will. Could you /create/ a god? Then do not speak
to me of any gods. But you could well create the overman. ---Nietzsche
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
ALL:

This is my weekly reminder to all List members regarding the survey on Don
Rosa stories. Please send your picks to

(Email removed)

by July 31, 1997

INTERNATIONAL SURVEY ON DON ROSA

NAME:
NATIONALITY:
SEX:
AGE:

1) Pick 3 covers which you consider Rosa's BEST: (*NOTE*: NOT in order of
preference. Simply what you'd consider Don's 3 BEST covers).

2) Pick 3 OPENING SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:

3) Pick 3 INTERIOR SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:

4) Pick 3 stories (of any length) which you consider Rosa's WORST:

5) Pick 3 SHORT stories (2-14 pages long) which you consider Rosa's BEST:

6) Pick 3 LONG stories (15 pages or more) which you consider Rosa's BEST:

7) Pick the 3 BEST/CLEVEREST hidden D.U.C.K.s. (in covers OR Splash panels).

8) COMMENTS:

I hope you have fun filling out the above questionnaire,

Archontis
Mikko Pohjola
SATU:
> My interest in ducks never went away, but it did faint a little over the
> years (and I still think the stories in Aku weren't always that good
> sometimes in the end of 1980's) Then came Don Rosa, and my interest was
> 100% back! This is really one (and I guess, main) reason why I've been

I had the exactly same problem in the late 1980's, but issue #1 of
1990 changed my view totally... The first Don Rosa story came out and I
was most surprised to see a Disney comic that didn't look like a Barks
story but was still superior to the normal DD comics - most Barks comics,
as well. "Mythological Menagerie" is still one of my favourite stories.

> was Mike, the Finnish Trekkie, who saved my day/week/month by telling that

:>

> (Though lately you have done your best to ruin all the fun of the story
> by reading it through a microscope!

Well... <mumble mumble> ...Don said he expected more comments than
he had gotten so I just... <mumble mumble> ...anyways, sorry if I've been
such a nuisance. I won't do so again. Really. I promise.

> Now I just have to ask: are there REALLY hidden D.U.C.K:s at the beginning
> of of every Rosa-story, includin the older ones?? The reason I'm asking is
> of course that it's DRIVING ME NUTS that I can't find them!!

He does have it in most of his stories, but in early Egmont
printings (including Aku Ankka of the early 90's) the editors often
removed the D.U.C.K. because they thought it looked like a signature. In
some more recent stories (such as "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" =
"Onnenlantin tarina") the D.U.C.K. was lost because they had to cut
off a bit of the first panel in order to get the title above it.

KRITON:
> "Exotic alien swords are easy to come by--Aces are rare."

Where the heck is that quote from?-)

HARRY:
> MIKKO:

Please, Harry, just call me Mike. (the only people to call me
Mikko are my family members and my email account adminstrator)

> I am working on an update very slowly - Don has mailed a lot during the last
> three years, and sorting that all out takes more time than I thought!
> When I'm finished, I'll let you (i.e. the list) know; I hope it's somewhere
> this year.

Great to know you're making a new one! I still often read the
first one when I need some information about Don's comics quickly! And I
think it was used as a source for an article in the Finnish hard cover
book of "GotLL". They're publishing a hard cover "Lo$" now and I thought
it might've been interesting to have a modern version of that file for
them to read :)

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Mike Schneiderath
Hi!

I now got the new Preview catalogue from the German publisher Ehapa
(october 1997 to april 1998)

First two Non Rosa publications from that preview:

November:=20

Christmas Album 2, 56 Pages 18,- DM
-stories by Carl Barks, pat Block and others

William van Horn: New Adventures of the Ducks, 48 pages, 16,80 DM

Here are the forthcoming Rosa Publications:

October:
Don Rosa: Onkel Dagobert "Sein Leben Seine Milliarden"Album 0 (56 pages)=20
16,80 DM
- Of Ducks, Dimes and Destinies
- ? probaby ? hearts of the yukon..

Don Rosa: Onkel Dagobert "Sein Leben Seine Milliarden" set of 7 Albums (0-6)
149,- DM
- with 10 pages from Don Rosa on what had inspired and influencd him.
- limited to 999 issues, with a numbered Print that is signed by Don Rosa.

December:
Disney: Don Rosa Album 15, 48 pages, 16,80
- his majesty scrooge McDuck

March:
Disney: Don Rosa Album 16, 48 pages, 16,80
- the treasury of croesus

That=B4s it. I am really curious to see if the will pubish another limited
Edition set of The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck for the Album version
of the Pizzen Bluff story...

And I think that Ehapa knows exactly how to make money, by selling things
over and over again, since everyone who is interested in this package (like
myself) already had bought 6 of the 7 Albums in the Set.

DON:=20

Can you tell us which is the subject of the print that will be packed with
the 7 Album set? And have you already signed all 999 prints?
=20

Mike
Hochstetter
>
>COuld you please go to my website and check out
>
>Special Features -> Artists
>
>and could you then say what you think of it?
>
>I'm pretty proud of it myself! ;-)
>
>Bye!
>
>Arthur

I would be glad if I could but whats your Web adress? ;-)
Uli
>
Mn
I've met some great folks from over the water at the show yesterday...
Jakob Hallin (who produces a very professional Duck fan-zine);
Greger Nassen and Germund (can't remember your last name...sorry!)
When Germund came to my booth...my ear detected a Swedish accent
and we struck up a conversation regarding the Disney Duck titles
When I mentioned an acquaintance of mine Per Vedin they all knew
who he was...always amazes me how tightly knit this duck family really is.

Another treat was finding my name in the new Italian Rosa book,
in what little I contributed, I'm still grateful for the acknowledgement.
Also, Don brought me a copy of "A little Something Special"...just can't
wait for the folks at Gladstone to print it...time for the translation
dictionary

Hope to meet more of the fans from overseas in the upcoming days!
If anyone of our overseas attendees are still logging in to the digest
inbetween running around this 24-hour-a-day convention come by and see
me at Booth #2202...I'll give you a special "Digest Discount" on all Disney
stuff.

BTW: Look out Europe...Gerstein is starting to look very "Euro" in his
fashion design!
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

> I would be glad if I could but whats your Web adress? ;-)

That message was not intended for the mailing list. But if you want
to know my address, it's http://www.pi.net/~wolfman

Bye!

Arthur
Shaun M. Knowler
Well, I re-checked "Clothes make the Duck", which was from U$ 32 if
anyone's wondering, and he says he built the STORM DRAINS in that one too!

Does anyone know how I can get my hands on a $crooge plush doll? They
aren't available in Disneyland anymore, and I was wondering if anyone
could help me get my hands on one!

-Shaun, who wants a new toy! :)
Veli-Matti Saarinen
Satu:

> My interest in ducks never went away, but it did faint a little over the
> years (and I still think the stories in Aku weren't always that good
> sometimes in the end of 1980's) Then came Don Rosa, and my interest was
> 100% back!

I don't know is this problem in every other countries, but as Satu said
it is a problem in Finland. The 80's were good(I don't know nothing
about earlyer times, only the The best of Barks are familiar to me), so
were first years of 90's too, but now you can't find any good story of
the week magazines. Otherwise, when in 80's there was hard to find bad
ones. Sad, is it? Are the ideas really so used that now only Rosa can
make good fresh storys.

And now is time for introduse myself: I'm 17 years old male student, I'm
living in Finland, and something about me you can find from my web-page:
http://www.sci.fi/~vessu , and there are my duck's sites also. And I
also like of drawing too, so there is one of pictures in those sites.

Veli-Matti Saarinen
SRoweCanoe
I'm a bit behind in my reading; and I just thought that I'd point out that
the Chip "n' Dale story in WDC&S #614 is actually the work of Pete Alvardo,
instead of Jack Bradbury. For those folks who'd like to learn to id
Alvardo's work - start by looking at the fingers, which are very
distinctive. Next check any human characthers, and their hanna-barbarish
body shapes (like a bean). And no, I don't know who inked it...
(I can id no Disney inker).
Steven Rowe
Kfitz
> I am wondering now. Any Italian (well, at least any Tuscan!) as a child
has
> read and re-read "Pinocchio" and feels somehow betrayed by Disney's
movie.
> Does "Bambi" or any other book play the same role for other countries'
children?
> Marco

Marco,

Oh, my, was I disappointed with Disney's "Bambi"! I had read the book by
Felix Salten (as well as "Friends of the Forest") several years before
Disney's cartoon movie adaption came out. You definitely cannot compare
the movie to the book, however, because some of the charm and absurdity
Alice dealt with in Lewis Carroll's books, was actually present in Disney's
cartoon adaption, I expected more from "Bambi" the cartoon. Many of the
characters and interactions I loved in the book were not in the movie and
many were added that I did not care for such as Thumper and Flower. Sorry,
but to me, Thumper barely exists though his cartoon comic separate
character comic short stories are cute. They could be any rabbit though.
I could only stand to watch the movie, "Bambi" once.

In the book by Felix Salten, there was such a mystical relationship between
Bambi and the mysterious White Stag from practically the day he was born.
The reader could not help but thrill with Bambi everytime the White Stag
would make an appearance to him. I guessed early on that the White Stag
might be Bambi's father, but I do not want to be a spoiler in case you
never read it, so I will not say if I was right or wrong.

I was about 7 or 8 when I read "Bambi", "Alice In Wonderland", "Alice
Through the Looking Glass". I saw the movies a couple of years later.
Recently I acquired a copy of "Bambi's Children" by Felix Salten but have
not read it yet, I just enjoy having it to look forward to.

Actually I find Disney's more recent movie cartoon attempts very
uninteresting and unappealing and doubt that I will bother to ever see "The
Beauty and the Beast" (okay - so I bought the comic graphic adaptions),
"The Hunchback of Notre Dame", "The Lion King", Aladin and His Lamp", and
definitely not "Hercules". While we thrilled to see "Snow White" in my
family as young girls, it was well done and not too far off from the
written versions (and how would you gage it anyway when there are so many
versions published even in different publications of "Grimm's Fairy Tales"
which I was weaned on). Still "Cinderella" and "Sleeping Beauty" I did not
enjoy so I guess I stopped with "Pinochio" (oh, the book is so much more
enjoyable but I was young when I saw the movie and read the book later) and
the ones I have already mentioned.

Kathy
Kfitz
One need only look through their comic book collection and count the number
of engineers, chemists, mathematicians, and other scientists who haven
written letters to Gladstone's comic line to surmise the following must be
very true (and how many more have never written that work in these areas
and grew up reading about Ducks and Mice?). I have also been enjoying
reading what other authors influenced people on the list. Actually Carl
Barks, Mark Twain, Lewis Carroll, are my favorites, followed closely by
others I have mentioned in the past. Then of course there is Rex
Stout...).

> In response to the following comment:
>
> "I am getting more and more persuaded that there is a link between
> scientific
> interests [Mathematics, Engineering ;-), etc. etc.] and Duck
fondness"
>
> I started reading $crooge and only $crooge at the age of 6. By the time
I
> was in my twenties I had completed a mathematics degree. I finally know
> what or who influenced my direction in life.
>
> Andrew Wiles
Marco Barlotti
LEONARDO:

> Very nice, with a beautiful
>photo of a big group
[...]
>If anyone is interested, the group photo taken at Roma ("Expocartoon") with
>Don Rosa, Fabio Gadducci, Lidia Cannatella and many others is on my web page

How come nobody credits the person who **took** the photo? :-(

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