Alexander - and any other one who may be interested.
I have succeeded in shipping the book to Archontis in Greece, and I can try
to do the same for others. The book should be easily available here in Firenze.
Archontis sent me US$ 30.- which were just right for buying the book and
sending it registered air mail (to Greece!).
If you think you can use my help, anybody, please feel free to contact me
privately (but maybe the authors can obtain the copies even more easily?
Leonardo? Frank?)
Marco
Author
Topic: 199707
(281 messages)
Marco Barlotti
DON ROSA - E IL RINASCIMENTO DISNEYANO
Message 181 -
1997-07-20 at 01:24:46
CarmenG
Rosa survey
Message 182 -
1997-07-20 at 03:52:23
I would really like to respond to the Rosa survey, but I'm afraid it would be
impossible to choose favorites. Besides, I am not a very organized person, so
the various issues are all over the house: in boxes, on shelves, under the
couch, next to the bed, etc.
However, I would like to respond in some way; I've only got a few days free
between semesters at school, and then it's back to lurking.
It has become almost a cliche to say that Van Horn is the artist for comedy
and Rosa is preferred in the long adventures. I suppose, like most cliches,
it has some basis in truth. However, I think we are shortchanging Rosa by
downplaying his mastery of the short, "comic" story. Certainly, there are
moments of great comedy in the adventure stories, but I cannot remember
laughing so hard at a story as the first time I read "On a Silver Platter," a
short in which Donald and Scrooge never even leave the building (sort of).
Rosa (you call people by their last names when you are being Serious) has a
genius for setting up a premise and following up with every possible
consequence and permutation based on the situation. "Silver Platter" is a
fine example, as is "Gravity," and I'm sure the members of this group can
list more very quickly.
Sometimes, in the longer stories particularly, the premise is so
astonishingly apt, so perfect, that it nearly takes your breath away. The
idea that the Plain Awfultonians spoke and acted like Donald was a wonderful
conceit (I particularly enjoyed the sign in the crowd that read "Hiya
Toots!"). I'm afraid I caught on to the surprise of "Guardians of the Lost
Library" before it ended, but this did not diminish my admiration of the
story's construction, even down to the Isis design.
I've listed a couple of favorites, so now I suppose I should list a
not-so-favorite story, just to show I'm not some sort of yea-saying fan-boy.
I can't really judge fairly, because Gladstone didn't send the final chapter
of the "Center of the Earth" story (sorry, I've even forgotten the title).
I'd have to read that before I made a full evaluation. However, the
didacticism (inherent in many stories, but most often subtle) seemed a bit
too prominent here for my tastes.
Well, I could ramble on a lot more, but what would I talk about next year? I
enjoy reading the posts & hope to contribute again soon before school begins.
(Being an "older" student is much harder than the first time around....)
--Carmen
impossible to choose favorites. Besides, I am not a very organized person, so
the various issues are all over the house: in boxes, on shelves, under the
couch, next to the bed, etc.
However, I would like to respond in some way; I've only got a few days free
between semesters at school, and then it's back to lurking.
It has become almost a cliche to say that Van Horn is the artist for comedy
and Rosa is preferred in the long adventures. I suppose, like most cliches,
it has some basis in truth. However, I think we are shortchanging Rosa by
downplaying his mastery of the short, "comic" story. Certainly, there are
moments of great comedy in the adventure stories, but I cannot remember
laughing so hard at a story as the first time I read "On a Silver Platter," a
short in which Donald and Scrooge never even leave the building (sort of).
Rosa (you call people by their last names when you are being Serious) has a
genius for setting up a premise and following up with every possible
consequence and permutation based on the situation. "Silver Platter" is a
fine example, as is "Gravity," and I'm sure the members of this group can
list more very quickly.
Sometimes, in the longer stories particularly, the premise is so
astonishingly apt, so perfect, that it nearly takes your breath away. The
idea that the Plain Awfultonians spoke and acted like Donald was a wonderful
conceit (I particularly enjoyed the sign in the crowd that read "Hiya
Toots!"). I'm afraid I caught on to the surprise of "Guardians of the Lost
Library" before it ended, but this did not diminish my admiration of the
story's construction, even down to the Isis design.
I've listed a couple of favorites, so now I suppose I should list a
not-so-favorite story, just to show I'm not some sort of yea-saying fan-boy.
I can't really judge fairly, because Gladstone didn't send the final chapter
of the "Center of the Earth" story (sorry, I've even forgotten the title).
I'd have to read that before I made a full evaluation. However, the
didacticism (inherent in many stories, but most often subtle) seemed a bit
too prominent here for my tastes.
Well, I could ramble on a lot more, but what would I talk about next year? I
enjoy reading the posts & hope to contribute again soon before school begins.
(Being an "older" student is much harder than the first time around....)
--Carmen
Zjchina
Hello
Message 183 -
1997-07-20 at 06:28:05
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #149
Message 184 -
1997-07-20 at 18:29:41
MIKE
> > "Exotic alien swords are easy to come by--Aces are rare."
>
> Where the heck is that quote from?-)
It's from the Doctor Who episode "Battlefield".
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"...a long bath in sodium chloride solution, then wallowing about on a bed of
mica crystals while undergoing severe exposure to hard ultraviolet
bombardment."
-----
> > "Exotic alien swords are easy to come by--Aces are rare."
>
> Where the heck is that quote from?-)
It's from the Doctor Who episode "Battlefield".
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"...a long bath in sodium chloride solution, then wallowing about on a bed of
mica crystals while undergoing severe exposure to hard ultraviolet
bombardment."
-----
Harry Fluks
Dave, Ram and Mikk.. er.. Mike
Message 185 -
1997-07-20 at 23:30:10
> Gysbert Japicks
> Goodness but this is a wonderful name for a character!
Why? Am I missing an English pun here?
BTW, the name of this Frisian writer / poet is used in the Frisian version
of Asterix, where the bard is called "Gysbetiapix".
> Are there any
> notable traits claimed by Frislanders (or quietly alluded to by their
> detractors from "competeing" regions of the Netherlands)?
I'm sorry, I don't understand the English words "traits", "alluded",
"detractors" and I don't understand the meaning of "competeing"
here. Could you ask your question again in English that a 5-year
old can understand?
RAM:
> Was Walt Disney Giant cancelled? If so, at what issue #?
Yes, the last issue was #7. I have the impression that the Penny
Pinchers were more or less their follow-up (being comics with several
stories on the same theme).
> While we're on the topic, my "peers" can't believe I read comic books
> at my age (25) and doing what I do. I had to show them all Geoffrey
> Blum's psychoanalysing in the Carl Barks Libraries in Colour to argue
> that there is merit to this stuff. I presume others have the same
> problem?
I have that problem (and I'm even 35), but I certainly won't solve it
using Blum's articles! Blum is explaining a lot of things "into" the
stories, that the authors never have meant.
If my family would read those articles, they would think I'm even
more nuts than they think I am now.
I'm trying to deal with this problem in a different way: impress my
family by saying wise things now and then (how many cities were
there in Cibola, how do you lift a sunken ship, what's the Norwegian
word for goat cheese, that kind of things) and when they ask "how
do you know that?" I'd tell them I got it from a Disney comic!
> Together with the 9 issue
> set which includes the 6 Gyro Gearloose albums, does this [i.e. the
> Gladstone Library in Color albums] cover every Barks story?
No. Stories from Daisy Duck's Diary, Grandma Duck's Farm Friends,
Huey, Dewey and Louie Junior Woodchucks, and probably some others,
are not printed in those albums. But then again, Barks either only
wrote, or only drew most of these stories.
MIKE:
> Please, Harry, just call me Mike.
I'm sorry. I was confused by so many Mikes and Mikko's on this list, and I
just joined a Mike Oldfield mailing list...
> The [Finnish publishers] are publishing a hard cover "Lo$" now and I thought
> it might've been interesting to have a modern version of that [Rosa quote] file for
> them to read
I was thinking of omitting the remarks about the Lo$ stories, since Don has
already commented extensively on them on the (Dan Shane's) Uncle
Scrooge web pages!
--Harry.
Mickey: "Two crooks just left town on a motorcycle! Get after 'em!"
Police: "You're tellin' US, mister? It was OUR machine thet they took!"
(1935)
> Goodness but this is a wonderful name for a character!
Why? Am I missing an English pun here?
BTW, the name of this Frisian writer / poet is used in the Frisian version
of Asterix, where the bard is called "Gysbetiapix".
> Are there any
> notable traits claimed by Frislanders (or quietly alluded to by their
> detractors from "competeing" regions of the Netherlands)?
I'm sorry, I don't understand the English words "traits", "alluded",
"detractors" and I don't understand the meaning of "competeing"
here. Could you ask your question again in English that a 5-year
old can understand?
RAM:
> Was Walt Disney Giant cancelled? If so, at what issue #?
Yes, the last issue was #7. I have the impression that the Penny
Pinchers were more or less their follow-up (being comics with several
stories on the same theme).
> While we're on the topic, my "peers" can't believe I read comic books
> at my age (25) and doing what I do. I had to show them all Geoffrey
> Blum's psychoanalysing in the Carl Barks Libraries in Colour to argue
> that there is merit to this stuff. I presume others have the same
> problem?
I have that problem (and I'm even 35), but I certainly won't solve it
using Blum's articles! Blum is explaining a lot of things "into" the
stories, that the authors never have meant.
If my family would read those articles, they would think I'm even
more nuts than they think I am now.
I'm trying to deal with this problem in a different way: impress my
family by saying wise things now and then (how many cities were
there in Cibola, how do you lift a sunken ship, what's the Norwegian
word for goat cheese, that kind of things) and when they ask "how
do you know that?" I'd tell them I got it from a Disney comic!
> Together with the 9 issue
> set which includes the 6 Gyro Gearloose albums, does this [i.e. the
> Gladstone Library in Color albums] cover every Barks story?
No. Stories from Daisy Duck's Diary, Grandma Duck's Farm Friends,
Huey, Dewey and Louie Junior Woodchucks, and probably some others,
are not printed in those albums. But then again, Barks either only
wrote, or only drew most of these stories.
MIKE:
> Please, Harry, just call me Mike.
I'm sorry. I was confused by so many Mikes and Mikko's on this list, and I
just joined a Mike Oldfield mailing list...
> The [Finnish publishers] are publishing a hard cover "Lo$" now and I thought
> it might've been interesting to have a modern version of that [Rosa quote] file for
> them to read
I was thinking of omitting the remarks about the Lo$ stories, since Don has
already commented extensively on them on the (Dan Shane's) Uncle
Scrooge web pages!
--Harry.
Mickey: "Two crooks just left town on a motorcycle! Get after 'em!"
Police: "You're tellin' US, mister? It was OUR machine thet they took!"
(1935)
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #149
Message 186 -
1997-07-21 at 06:58:57
MIKE S. (who wrote from Germany:)
> Here are the forthcoming (German) Rosa Publications:
> October:
> Don Rosa: Onkel Dagobert "Sein Leben Seine Milliarden"Album 0 (56
pages)=20
> 16,80 DM
> - Of Ducks, Dimes and Destinies
> - ? probaby ? hearts of the yukon..
> Don Rosa: Onkel Dagobert "Sein Leben Seine Milliarden" set of 7 Albums
(0-6)
> 149,- DM
> - with 10 pages from Don Rosa on what had inspired and influencd him.
> - limited to 999 issues, with a numbered Print that is signed by Don
Rosa.
> That=B4s it. I am really curious to see if the will pubish another
limited
> Edition set of The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck for the Album version
> of the Pizzen Bluff story...
> And I think that Ehapa knows exactly how to make money, by selling things
> over and over again, since everyone who is interested in this package
(like
> myself) already had bought 6 of the 7 Albums in the Set.
> DON:=20
> Can you tell us which is the subject of the print that will be packed
with
> the 7 Album set? And have you already signed all 999 prints?
Yes, the second story in that #0 album will be "Hearts of the Yukon". And,
consequesntly, the signed print that will be included in the boxed set will
be the cover to Gladstone's edition of that story (WDGIANT #1) but as
art-only. No, I haven't signed those prints yet, but I expect to receive
them any day.
I've never asked Ehapa -- will the #0 only be available in the boxed set?
Making readers buy the entire set just to see that album? If so, well,
that's marketing. Whatcha gonna do? But you can't gripe too much, perhaps,
if the stories appeared already in the weekly editions since the albums are
exact copies of those comic-book versions as far as art and coloring goes
(but with rewritten text, I believe?). You could have seen the stories in
the weekly if you were on your toes. (Were they in the weekly?) But I doubt
that they'll do another boxed set to make you buy "Vigilante of Pizen
Bluff"... that will probably appear in a regular issue of the album.
SHAUN:
> From: "Shaun M. Knowler"
> Well, I re-checked "Clothes make the Duck", which was from U$ 32 if
> anyone's wondering, and he says he built the STORM DRAINS in that one
too!
Yeah, I think that's the story I'm thinking of... I seem to recall it had
something to do with his clothes getting torn up. Well, I guess I equate
storm drains with sewers, as far as one being built along with the other.
Remember, my training is in civil engineering, and I actually had several
courses in sewer and storm drain construction when I was in college. It's
been so long now that I can't recall the exact name of the course...
probably something like "hydro-engineering"... but I do recall that we just
called it "sh*t-flow 101".
SATU:
No, I think the discussion about what movie I was swiping a scene from in
"A Little Somethimng Special" seems to have died away without anyone
answering that question, even though Dan Shane knew but was letting someone
else try to name it. Anyway, it was one of my very favorite Hitchcock
movies, a great bit of WWII anti-nazi propaganda made in 1942 starring Bob
Cummings titles "Saboteur". At the climax Bob has Norman Lloyd (most famous
for his role many years later on TVs "St.Elsewhere") by the sleeve as they
dangled off the torch of the Statue of Liberty. I used the Coot statue
symbolically the same way Hitchcock used Lady Liberty. It was Hitchcock's
first American film, I think, and I don't know why it's so unknown -- for
me, it's one of his 2 or 3 best, and also just about the best WWII
propaganda adventure film. Also one of the best movies about the WWII
homefront which is a favorite subject of mine. Jeez -- I like the heck
outta that movie! I'm so fired up now I need to go watch my laser disc...
bye.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #150
******************************************
> Here are the forthcoming (German) Rosa Publications:
> October:
> Don Rosa: Onkel Dagobert "Sein Leben Seine Milliarden"Album 0 (56
pages)=20
> 16,80 DM
> - Of Ducks, Dimes and Destinies
> - ? probaby ? hearts of the yukon..
> Don Rosa: Onkel Dagobert "Sein Leben Seine Milliarden" set of 7 Albums
(0-6)
> 149,- DM
> - with 10 pages from Don Rosa on what had inspired and influencd him.
> - limited to 999 issues, with a numbered Print that is signed by Don
Rosa.
> That=B4s it. I am really curious to see if the will pubish another
limited
> Edition set of The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck for the Album version
> of the Pizzen Bluff story...
> And I think that Ehapa knows exactly how to make money, by selling things
> over and over again, since everyone who is interested in this package
(like
> myself) already had bought 6 of the 7 Albums in the Set.
> DON:=20
> Can you tell us which is the subject of the print that will be packed
with
> the 7 Album set? And have you already signed all 999 prints?
Yes, the second story in that #0 album will be "Hearts of the Yukon". And,
consequesntly, the signed print that will be included in the boxed set will
be the cover to Gladstone's edition of that story (WDGIANT #1) but as
art-only. No, I haven't signed those prints yet, but I expect to receive
them any day.
I've never asked Ehapa -- will the #0 only be available in the boxed set?
Making readers buy the entire set just to see that album? If so, well,
that's marketing. Whatcha gonna do? But you can't gripe too much, perhaps,
if the stories appeared already in the weekly editions since the albums are
exact copies of those comic-book versions as far as art and coloring goes
(but with rewritten text, I believe?). You could have seen the stories in
the weekly if you were on your toes. (Were they in the weekly?) But I doubt
that they'll do another boxed set to make you buy "Vigilante of Pizen
Bluff"... that will probably appear in a regular issue of the album.
SHAUN:
> From: "Shaun M. Knowler"
> Well, I re-checked "Clothes make the Duck", which was from U$ 32 if
> anyone's wondering, and he says he built the STORM DRAINS in that one
too!
Yeah, I think that's the story I'm thinking of... I seem to recall it had
something to do with his clothes getting torn up. Well, I guess I equate
storm drains with sewers, as far as one being built along with the other.
Remember, my training is in civil engineering, and I actually had several
courses in sewer and storm drain construction when I was in college. It's
been so long now that I can't recall the exact name of the course...
probably something like "hydro-engineering"... but I do recall that we just
called it "sh*t-flow 101".
SATU:
No, I think the discussion about what movie I was swiping a scene from in
"A Little Somethimng Special" seems to have died away without anyone
answering that question, even though Dan Shane knew but was letting someone
else try to name it. Anyway, it was one of my very favorite Hitchcock
movies, a great bit of WWII anti-nazi propaganda made in 1942 starring Bob
Cummings titles "Saboteur". At the climax Bob has Norman Lloyd (most famous
for his role many years later on TVs "St.Elsewhere") by the sleeve as they
dangled off the torch of the Statue of Liberty. I used the Coot statue
symbolically the same way Hitchcock used Lady Liberty. It was Hitchcock's
first American film, I think, and I don't know why it's so unknown -- for
me, it's one of his 2 or 3 best, and also just about the best WWII
propaganda adventure film. Also one of the best movies about the WWII
homefront which is a favorite subject of mine. Jeez -- I like the heck
outta that movie! I'm so fired up now I need to go watch my laser disc...
bye.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #150
******************************************
Mikko Aittola
Quality of Finnish weekly
Message 187 -
1997-07-21 at 10:03:06
Since so many Finns here have complained about the quality of
Finnish weekly (meaning the quality of recent Egmont material)
I thought I'll add my two pennies here...
...mainly because I disagree.
I think the quality has improved in the nineties. The biggest
"boost" has been in Mickey stories. I'll just have to thank
Byron and David for redefining the old Gottfredson style mouse.
In the eighties, we didn't have Rosa, William and Noel Van Horn,
Marco Rota, David, Byron etc. Ferioli's stuff is also much better
now.
I don't know if Gilberts wrote for Egmont in eighties, but there
has been many quality stories by them in the nineties, like
"Plastic Mickey" for example.
I can't say much about the other writers because there's no
credits to be found on the funny pages and I'm usually too lazy
too look them up from the database.
On the other hand, most Uncle $crooge adventure stories suck
these days. I enjoy Rosa's stories very much, but most of
the others are just stupid and silly.
/Mikko
Finnish weekly (meaning the quality of recent Egmont material)
I thought I'll add my two pennies here...
...mainly because I disagree.
I think the quality has improved in the nineties. The biggest
"boost" has been in Mickey stories. I'll just have to thank
Byron and David for redefining the old Gottfredson style mouse.
In the eighties, we didn't have Rosa, William and Noel Van Horn,
Marco Rota, David, Byron etc. Ferioli's stuff is also much better
now.
I don't know if Gilberts wrote for Egmont in eighties, but there
has been many quality stories by them in the nineties, like
"Plastic Mickey" for example.
I can't say much about the other writers because there's no
credits to be found on the funny pages and I'm usually too lazy
too look them up from the database.
On the other hand, most Uncle $crooge adventure stories suck
these days. I enjoy Rosa's stories very much, but most of
the others are just stupid and silly.
/Mikko
Mikko Aittola
Eisners
Message 188 -
1997-07-21 at 10:08:29
Congrats to Don Rosa and Todd Klein for well earned Eisner
awards!
'Nuff said.
/Mikko
awards!
'Nuff said.
/Mikko
Luna Storta
Of Medioka, ducks and mices
Message 189 -
1997-07-21 at 10:35:46
Hello everybody,
may be that my messages are a little late in time, but I've been
without accessing internet in the last few days, so forgive me if some
of my answers have already been given...
JONATHAN + DON (about "The Monarch of Medioka"):
Jonathan said that in the last episodes of Gasoline Alley is possible
to read a story very similar to The Monarch of Medioka...
The inspiration for this story came to Gottfredson not only from the
movie "The Prisoner of Zenda", but even from another comic by Roy
Crane: Wash Tubbs who lived a very similar story some years before
Mickey. Wash Tubbs played inspiration for Gottfredson at least another
time too: the Mighty Whale Hunter (7-feb-1938 / 6-jul-1938) is a
remake of another story from Roy Crane.
WILMER:
Are you sure that Ub Iwerks was Frisian? I always thought that he was
from Poland, I read it somewhere on some on my comics-related books,
but I can't exactly remind where...but still I'm quite sure about it!
ALL:
It' now a couple of months that I'm on this list, and I'm starting to
ask myself: Is it a Disney Comil Mailing List or is it a Disney *DUCK*
Comics Mailing List???? Is there space for someone who appreciates
Mickey more than Donald???
Italian Readers:
I need some informations about "Topomistery" and its chonologies. I
need to know which Gottfredson stories were published on Topomistery
since number 38...If there is someone who can help me it would be much
appreciated!!
Thank you!
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/3088
______________________________________________________
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may be that my messages are a little late in time, but I've been
without accessing internet in the last few days, so forgive me if some
of my answers have already been given...
JONATHAN + DON (about "The Monarch of Medioka"):
Jonathan said that in the last episodes of Gasoline Alley is possible
to read a story very similar to The Monarch of Medioka...
The inspiration for this story came to Gottfredson not only from the
movie "The Prisoner of Zenda", but even from another comic by Roy
Crane: Wash Tubbs who lived a very similar story some years before
Mickey. Wash Tubbs played inspiration for Gottfredson at least another
time too: the Mighty Whale Hunter (7-feb-1938 / 6-jul-1938) is a
remake of another story from Roy Crane.
WILMER:
Are you sure that Ub Iwerks was Frisian? I always thought that he was
from Poland, I read it somewhere on some on my comics-related books,
but I can't exactly remind where...but still I'm quite sure about it!
ALL:
It' now a couple of months that I'm on this list, and I'm starting to
ask myself: Is it a Disney Comil Mailing List or is it a Disney *DUCK*
Comics Mailing List???? Is there space for someone who appreciates
Mickey more than Donald???
Italian Readers:
I need some informations about "Topomistery" and its chonologies. I
need to know which Gottfredson stories were published on Topomistery
since number 38...If there is someone who can help me it would be much
appreciated!!
Thank you!
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/3088
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Dave Rawson
Disney comics Digest V97 #150
Message 190 -
1997-07-21 at 11:51:47
Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>:
> > Gysbert Japicks
> > Goodness but this is a wonderful name for a character!
>
> Why?
Because it sounds so nice as it rolls from the tongue.
> Am I missing an English pun here?
Not that I'm aware of...
> > Are there any notable traits claimed by Frislanders (or quietly
> > alluded to by their detractors from "competeing" regions of the
> > Netherlands)?
>
> I'm sorry, I don't understand the English words "traits", "alluded",
> "detractors" and I don't understand the meaning of "competeing"
> here. Could you ask your question again in English that a 5-year
> old can understand?
Hmmm. Well a trait is a characteristic or quality or feature. To allude
is to refer to indirectly. A detractor is one who seeks to take away
from or diminish another's reputation. Competing was used here as in
friendly rivalry between the different regions of the Netherlands. The
parenthetical portion of the question was tongue in cheek, as we say;
meant to be light-hearted, whimsical.
It's okay if nothing springs to mind. I'll ask my friend Daan von
Rooijen when I visit the Amsterdam area this September. He and a Belgian
once carried on for some time quite uproariously (all tongue in cheek)
each about the other's supposed national traits.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
> > Gysbert Japicks
> > Goodness but this is a wonderful name for a character!
>
> Why?
Because it sounds so nice as it rolls from the tongue.
> Am I missing an English pun here?
Not that I'm aware of...
> > Are there any notable traits claimed by Frislanders (or quietly
> > alluded to by their detractors from "competeing" regions of the
> > Netherlands)?
>
> I'm sorry, I don't understand the English words "traits", "alluded",
> "detractors" and I don't understand the meaning of "competeing"
> here. Could you ask your question again in English that a 5-year
> old can understand?
Hmmm. Well a trait is a characteristic or quality or feature. To allude
is to refer to indirectly. A detractor is one who seeks to take away
from or diminish another's reputation. Competing was used here as in
friendly rivalry between the different regions of the Netherlands. The
parenthetical portion of the question was tongue in cheek, as we say;
meant to be light-hearted, whimsical.
It's okay if nothing springs to mind. I'll ask my friend Daan von
Rooijen when I visit the Amsterdam area this September. He and a Belgian
once carried on for some time quite uproariously (all tongue in cheek)
each about the other's supposed national traits.
--
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Mike Schneiderath
Disney comics Digest V97 #150
Message 191 -
1997-07-21 at 16:30:06
DON:
>I've never asked Ehapa -- will the #0 only be available in the boxed set=
?
>Making readers buy the entire set just to see that album? If so, well,
>that's marketing.=20
No no..As I had listed the issue # 0 will be published also seperately
in the same month as the boxed-set. But that still leads to the
interesting conclusion, that this signed print alone increaes the price
for the box for about 60 DM or 40$
(149 minus approx. 90 DM for the comics in that box).=20
Keep that in mind when nexttime someone asks you for an singing
somewhere ;-)
>You could have seen the stories in
>the weekly if you were on your toes. (Were they in the weekly?) But I do=
ubt
>that they'll do another boxed set to make you buy "Vigilante of Pizen
>Bluff"... that will probably appear in a regular issue of the album.
Just as you mentioned the weeklies, I noticed that Ehapa NEVER published
a comic in an Album that wasn=B4t published in a regular newsstand comic
before.=20
I wonder if they are forced to do it that way? The biggest difference is
that the Album Editions is that the lettring is much nicer than in the
weekly comics.
>I've never asked Ehapa -- will the #0 only be available in the boxed set=
?
>Making readers buy the entire set just to see that album? If so, well,
>that's marketing.=20
No no..As I had listed the issue # 0 will be published also seperately
in the same month as the boxed-set. But that still leads to the
interesting conclusion, that this signed print alone increaes the price
for the box for about 60 DM or 40$
(149 minus approx. 90 DM for the comics in that box).=20
Keep that in mind when nexttime someone asks you for an singing
somewhere ;-)
>You could have seen the stories in
>the weekly if you were on your toes. (Were they in the weekly?) But I do=
ubt
>that they'll do another boxed set to make you buy "Vigilante of Pizen
>Bluff"... that will probably appear in a regular issue of the album.
Just as you mentioned the weeklies, I noticed that Ehapa NEVER published
a comic in an Album that wasn=B4t published in a regular newsstand comic
before.=20
I wonder if they are forced to do it that way? The biggest difference is
that the Album Editions is that the lettring is much nicer than in the
weekly comics.
Marco Barlotti
Photo taken at Expocartoon on "Zio Paperone"
Message 192 -
1997-07-21 at 16:46:54
Leonardo:
>
>Hey!! WHO took the photo!? **you** !? I don't remember, because I was
>...hum... so "tired" that day.
>
Yes, it **was** me! I was the **newcomer** in the group, and it was just
right that I didn't appear in the picture... After all someone had to take
it... Just wait until **next** time when we find a **newer** newcomer!!!!
>Please tell me **who** took the photo, so I can, at least, write a line on
>my web page!
Well, the's no need, really! ;-)
Marco
>
>Hey!! WHO took the photo!? **you** !? I don't remember, because I was
>...hum... so "tired" that day.
>
Yes, it **was** me! I was the **newcomer** in the group, and it was just
right that I didn't appear in the picture... After all someone had to take
it... Just wait until **next** time when we find a **newer** newcomer!!!!
>Please tell me **who** took the photo, so I can, at least, write a line on
>my web page!
Well, the's no need, really! ;-)
Marco
Marco Barlotti
Last sled to Dawson
Message 193 -
1997-07-21 at 16:46:56
So at last on issue #94 of "Zio Paperone" I could read Don Rosa's "LAst sled
to Dawson"!!!!
There is a particular reason why I was anxious to read this story. The first
(and for a long long while, ONLY) time I ever heard mention of this new
Disney writer, Don Rosa, was in the letter column of "Uncle $crooge
Adventures" #8 (October 1988) which I stumbled upon at a newsstand inside
the railway station of Firenze. All letters there sounded like this
instance: <<While most Duck fans will agree that Carl Barks can never be
replaced, it's clear from "Last Sled to Dawson" that the mantle of his
genius has been passed to a worthy successor>>... so can you imagine how
eager was I to read something by Rosa... and of course in particular this
"LStD"!
Comments? A couple. The story was great. I was not disappointed at all!
But!!! A criticism is due. Page 12, panel 4. $crooge: "Is this hotel...
yours?"; Glitteing Goldie: "Yes, Scrooge! Do you remember the money I earned
many years ago? I came back to Dawson and bought the saloon!"
Now, let's make a little calculation. When does this story take place? In
1954, I dare say from the books on panel three of page one! So just **one**
year after "Back to Klondike". And isn't GG referring to the gold she found
on that occasion? Then why speak of "the money I earned many years ago"?????
[Of course you won't try and make me believe this is a mistake in the
translation, will you?]
Well, apart from this little inconvenience, the story is really **great**!!!
Congratulations again, Don!
MARCO
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
to Dawson"!!!!
There is a particular reason why I was anxious to read this story. The first
(and for a long long while, ONLY) time I ever heard mention of this new
Disney writer, Don Rosa, was in the letter column of "Uncle $crooge
Adventures" #8 (October 1988) which I stumbled upon at a newsstand inside
the railway station of Firenze. All letters there sounded like this
instance: <<While most Duck fans will agree that Carl Barks can never be
replaced, it's clear from "Last Sled to Dawson" that the mantle of his
genius has been passed to a worthy successor>>... so can you imagine how
eager was I to read something by Rosa... and of course in particular this
"LStD"!
Comments? A couple. The story was great. I was not disappointed at all!
But!!! A criticism is due. Page 12, panel 4. $crooge: "Is this hotel...
yours?"; Glitteing Goldie: "Yes, Scrooge! Do you remember the money I earned
many years ago? I came back to Dawson and bought the saloon!"
Now, let's make a little calculation. When does this story take place? In
1954, I dare say from the books on panel three of page one! So just **one**
year after "Back to Klondike". And isn't GG referring to the gold she found
on that occasion? Then why speak of "the money I earned many years ago"?????
[Of course you won't try and make me believe this is a mistake in the
translation, will you?]
Well, apart from this little inconvenience, the story is really **great**!!!
Congratulations again, Don!
MARCO
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Wilmer Rivers
Hitchcock / Iwerks / San Diego
Message 194 -
1997-07-21 at 18:40:34
Don Rosa writes of Alfred Hitchcock's 1942 movie "Saboteur":
> It was Hitchcock's first American film, I think,
Actually, it was his fifth film since coming to America. The first four
were Rebecca (1940), Foreign Correspondent (1940), Suspicion (1941), and
Mr. and Mrs. Smith (1941).
Paolo Castagno (alias Luna Storta) writes:
> Are you sure that Ub Iwerks was Frisian? I always thought that he was
> from Poland, I read it somewhere on some on my comics-related books,
> but I can't exactly remind where...but still I'm quite sure about it!
On this List's archive page
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/creators/ub-iwerks.html
Per tells us the following about Mickey's first artist:
"Born March 24, 1901 in Kansas City, Missouri. His family was from the
Netherlands and originally his name was Ubbe Ert Iwwerks before he
simplified it." Per, can you cite a reference for this information?
Incidentally, Walt Disney's first company (started in 1919) was called
Iwerks-Disney Commercial Artists. Wasn't it Walt himself who persuaded
Iwwerks to simplify the spelling of his name?
Paolo also writes:
> It's now a couple of months that I'm on this list, and I'm starting to
> ask myself: Is it a Disney Comic Mailing List or is it a Disney *DUCK*
> Comics Mailing List???? Is there space for someone who appreciates
> Mickey more than Donald???
It seems we've heard this somewhere before. Mr. Gerstein, do you care
to respond? (Or maybe the Gladstone folks can give us the sad circu-
lation numbers for every series they've offered with "Mickey Mouse" in
the title.) Anyway, if you want to discuss Mickey, this is certainly
the appropriate forum in which to do so. Just start some discussion
about your favorite (or **least** favorite!) Mickey stories, and maybe
it will spark some further interest among other List-members.
Now for the really important news:
Did people get together for breakfast in San Diego??? It was quite a
lot of fun last year, and I'm sorry I wasn't able to attend this time
due to a last-minute change in plans. Let's **all** be making arrange-
ments to be there next year and sit around the breakfast table, reading
disney comics and drawing stares from the other patrons in the Marriott
restaurant! I hope folks had fun, and I'll start making plans now for
1998. As Per wrote me in private E-mail, "Next year in Calisota!"
Wilmer Rivers
> It was Hitchcock's first American film, I think,
Actually, it was his fifth film since coming to America. The first four
were Rebecca (1940), Foreign Correspondent (1940), Suspicion (1941), and
Mr. and Mrs. Smith (1941).
Paolo Castagno (alias Luna Storta) writes:
> Are you sure that Ub Iwerks was Frisian? I always thought that he was
> from Poland, I read it somewhere on some on my comics-related books,
> but I can't exactly remind where...but still I'm quite sure about it!
On this List's archive page
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/creators/ub-iwerks.html
Per tells us the following about Mickey's first artist:
"Born March 24, 1901 in Kansas City, Missouri. His family was from the
Netherlands and originally his name was Ubbe Ert Iwwerks before he
simplified it." Per, can you cite a reference for this information?
Incidentally, Walt Disney's first company (started in 1919) was called
Iwerks-Disney Commercial Artists. Wasn't it Walt himself who persuaded
Iwwerks to simplify the spelling of his name?
Paolo also writes:
> It's now a couple of months that I'm on this list, and I'm starting to
> ask myself: Is it a Disney Comic Mailing List or is it a Disney *DUCK*
> Comics Mailing List???? Is there space for someone who appreciates
> Mickey more than Donald???
It seems we've heard this somewhere before. Mr. Gerstein, do you care
to respond? (Or maybe the Gladstone folks can give us the sad circu-
lation numbers for every series they've offered with "Mickey Mouse" in
the title.) Anyway, if you want to discuss Mickey, this is certainly
the appropriate forum in which to do so. Just start some discussion
about your favorite (or **least** favorite!) Mickey stories, and maybe
it will spark some further interest among other List-members.
Now for the really important news:
Did people get together for breakfast in San Diego??? It was quite a
lot of fun last year, and I'm sorry I wasn't able to attend this time
due to a last-minute change in plans. Let's **all** be making arrange-
ments to be there next year and sit around the breakfast table, reading
disney comics and drawing stares from the other patrons in the Marriott
restaurant! I hope folks had fun, and I'll start making plans now for
1998. As Per wrote me in private E-mail, "Next year in Calisota!"
Wilmer Rivers
Deckerd
Disney comics Digest V97 #150
Message 195 -
1997-07-21 at 18:52:00
On Jul 21, 1:51am, Dave Rawson wrote:
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #150
> It's okay if nothing springs to mind. I'll ask my friend Daan von
> Rooijen when I visit the Amsterdam area this September. He and a Belgian
> once carried on for some time quite uproariously (all tongue in cheek)
> each about the other's supposed national traits.
>
You realize, of course, that this kind of thing is terribly
politically incorrect in the US now? I was in a Copenhagen
McDonald's last May, and noticed that there was an advertising
campaign going on pitching the fact that McD had recently
lowered prices. The theme of the campaign was how much Scotsmen,
traditionally associated with the virtue of thrrrrift (to excess),
would love the low prices, and how Denmark could expect to be
invaded by a horde of hungry Scots attracted by the scent of
bargains. "Couldn't do _that_ in the States," thought I...
But then again, isn't that kinda the whole point of Uncle Scrooge...?
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #150
> It's okay if nothing springs to mind. I'll ask my friend Daan von
> Rooijen when I visit the Amsterdam area this September. He and a Belgian
> once carried on for some time quite uproariously (all tongue in cheek)
> each about the other's supposed national traits.
>
You realize, of course, that this kind of thing is terribly
politically incorrect in the US now? I was in a Copenhagen
McDonald's last May, and noticed that there was an advertising
campaign going on pitching the fact that McD had recently
lowered prices. The theme of the campaign was how much Scotsmen,
traditionally associated with the virtue of thrrrrift (to excess),
would love the low prices, and how Denmark could expect to be
invaded by a horde of hungry Scots attracted by the scent of
bargains. "Couldn't do _that_ in the States," thought I...
But then again, isn't that kinda the whole point of Uncle Scrooge...?
--Dwight Decker