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Message 271 -
1997-07-30 at 02:24:59
Cebarat
Disney Comics Digest V97 #156
Message 272 -
1997-07-30 at 03:08:19
Welcome to the mailing list, MARK EVANIER!
STEVEN ROWE asked if "Mickey Mouse in Love Trouble" was "banned." I have MM
BIRTHDAY PARTY and the reprint in the Abbeville Press GOOFY volume. I see no
reason why this story should be offensive to anyone. Perhaps the only
questionable aspect of the story is that Minnie and Millicent act like female
stereotypes, engaging in cat-fights, etc. -- hardly a unique situation in
American Disney comics. Or could Disney be offended by the fact that Mickey
lavishes attention upon another female mouse besides Minnie in this story?
In any event, I'd love to see this story reprinted by Gladstone. The story
already exists in formatted form (the serialization in early issues of
WDC&S), so the cost of printing it would probably be small.
RICH BELLACERA asks about the parrot named "Joe". If he's talking about "a
guy named Joe from Singapore," who appeared in the Barks story in WDC&S 65,
then
he's correct; this character is a normal looking parrot who can carry on
conversations with the Ducks, not a version of Jose Carioca. As far as I
know, WDC&S 65 was the only time Barks ever used the character, though of
course he used parrots in a number of other stories.
DON ROSA avows that he "has *nothing whatsoever* against Ducks in space";
instead, what he dislikes are "stories showing interstellar space travel as
something very common in Duckburg, the very idea of which seems so wrong that
I'm amazed that even the most lenient Duckfan could accept it." My views on
the subject run pretty much along these same lines. I've always felt that
with very few exceptions, Barks was a little sloppy in setting up believable
space scenarios and believable ways of getting the Ducks into space. I
recall the "Impervium" story as being one of the few in which Barks set up a
space flight in some reasonably plausible detail, but the "jivin' gelatin'"
scene that Don mentioned in which Scrooge and Gyro turning into "pancake
ducks" was an unfortunate dig back to a thoroughly implausible space
scenario.
For some reason, Carl did not apply quite the same standards of authenticity
to his space adventures that he did to his adventures set on Planet Earth.
Granted, space travel was in its infancy during his career, but people knew
enough about the basics of space flight to recognize the technologies that
would be involved and the physical risks that would be run. Even Carl's
personal-favorite space operas, "Island in the Sky" and "Micro-Ducks", are
chock-full of easily-detectable logical holes. I guess that he felt he had a
freer rein to let his imagination run wild in stories like these. But giant
teenagers looking for dates on Venus? Really, now!
BTW Don, not all Disney TV series have given in to excessive use of
"farting-warthog jokes" of the Beavis and Butt-Head variety. I don't recall
many such jokes in "Quack Pack," for example. They were too busy creating
unfunny jokes of their own devising!
WILMER RIVERS wants to know if there is a publisher named on the cover of
Pothole McDuck's comic book in "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff." I myself
didn't see one. Of course, you know the print quality of those 19th-century
periodicals... BTW, wouldn't putting those magazines in "oilskin sleeves"
(as Pothole insists) cause them to become damaged with grease spots, or
something?
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"YOU'RE IT -- YOU'RE AN ASTRONAUT!" -- Doofus to Launchpad, "DuckTales"
episode "The Right Duck"
STEVEN ROWE asked if "Mickey Mouse in Love Trouble" was "banned." I have MM
BIRTHDAY PARTY and the reprint in the Abbeville Press GOOFY volume. I see no
reason why this story should be offensive to anyone. Perhaps the only
questionable aspect of the story is that Minnie and Millicent act like female
stereotypes, engaging in cat-fights, etc. -- hardly a unique situation in
American Disney comics. Or could Disney be offended by the fact that Mickey
lavishes attention upon another female mouse besides Minnie in this story?
In any event, I'd love to see this story reprinted by Gladstone. The story
already exists in formatted form (the serialization in early issues of
WDC&S), so the cost of printing it would probably be small.
RICH BELLACERA asks about the parrot named "Joe". If he's talking about "a
guy named Joe from Singapore," who appeared in the Barks story in WDC&S 65,
then
he's correct; this character is a normal looking parrot who can carry on
conversations with the Ducks, not a version of Jose Carioca. As far as I
know, WDC&S 65 was the only time Barks ever used the character, though of
course he used parrots in a number of other stories.
DON ROSA avows that he "has *nothing whatsoever* against Ducks in space";
instead, what he dislikes are "stories showing interstellar space travel as
something very common in Duckburg, the very idea of which seems so wrong that
I'm amazed that even the most lenient Duckfan could accept it." My views on
the subject run pretty much along these same lines. I've always felt that
with very few exceptions, Barks was a little sloppy in setting up believable
space scenarios and believable ways of getting the Ducks into space. I
recall the "Impervium" story as being one of the few in which Barks set up a
space flight in some reasonably plausible detail, but the "jivin' gelatin'"
scene that Don mentioned in which Scrooge and Gyro turning into "pancake
ducks" was an unfortunate dig back to a thoroughly implausible space
scenario.
For some reason, Carl did not apply quite the same standards of authenticity
to his space adventures that he did to his adventures set on Planet Earth.
Granted, space travel was in its infancy during his career, but people knew
enough about the basics of space flight to recognize the technologies that
would be involved and the physical risks that would be run. Even Carl's
personal-favorite space operas, "Island in the Sky" and "Micro-Ducks", are
chock-full of easily-detectable logical holes. I guess that he felt he had a
freer rein to let his imagination run wild in stories like these. But giant
teenagers looking for dates on Venus? Really, now!
BTW Don, not all Disney TV series have given in to excessive use of
"farting-warthog jokes" of the Beavis and Butt-Head variety. I don't recall
many such jokes in "Quack Pack," for example. They were too busy creating
unfunny jokes of their own devising!
WILMER RIVERS wants to know if there is a publisher named on the cover of
Pothole McDuck's comic book in "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff." I myself
didn't see one. Of course, you know the print quality of those 19th-century
periodicals... BTW, wouldn't putting those magazines in "oilskin sleeves"
(as Pothole insists) cause them to become damaged with grease spots, or
something?
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"YOU'RE IT -- YOU'RE AN ASTRONAUT!" -- Doofus to Launchpad, "DuckTales"
episode "The Right Duck"
Rik Pierce
Bark's Duckburg
Message 273 -
1997-07-30 at 16:34:14
On Tue, 29 Jul 97 Gary (Email removed) wrote:
|Frankly, I don't see how you can function in a Duckburg as strictured as
|you've made it. Clearly, though, you do, and more power to you. It has led
|to a lot of entertaining reads and some truly superlative achievements. But
|I think I'll go ahead and keep amazing you with my "most lenient" view of
|Duckburg, since it's the one I know best, and it has room enough for your
|stories, "Island in the Sky," and all those awesome statues.
|
Total agreement here. I'm quite new to this group and to the minute examination
of the life of the ducks. I come here as a prime reader of Barks (whom I had
never heard of) back in the 50s and 60s. One of the 10 pagers about a race to
the moon so engrossed me that I plagerized the thing and wrote a story for
school. I even traced several of the panels thus pretty well uncovering the true
origin of the story :-) I absolutely loved these stories as a child and re-
reading them now brings back many memories of my childhood.
I had subscriptions back then when the books were a dime and read them over and
over saving the books in a rickety pine bookcase I had hammered together. I
thought Walt drew all these comics and occasionally there would be a story in
which the ducks bills were to fat, and the background not rendered at all well,
and the stories were kinda blah. I figured that Walt was overloaded those days
and had to turn over the job to an assistant.
A couple of weeks ago I received the 4 Don Rosa Scrooge adventures that contain
some terrific stuff. I know that if I had these stories when I was a child that
I probably would have thought they were done by Walt also and would have entered
my memory along side of "Ghost of the Grotto" as one of my favs. But because I
only read it now as an overgrown child, I miss the wonder and magic. Too bad for
me, but I hope to have grandchildren coming and will I have a treasure for them!
------------
Rik in Carlisle, MA
(Email removed)
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|Frankly, I don't see how you can function in a Duckburg as strictured as
|you've made it. Clearly, though, you do, and more power to you. It has led
|to a lot of entertaining reads and some truly superlative achievements. But
|I think I'll go ahead and keep amazing you with my "most lenient" view of
|Duckburg, since it's the one I know best, and it has room enough for your
|stories, "Island in the Sky," and all those awesome statues.
|
Total agreement here. I'm quite new to this group and to the minute examination
of the life of the ducks. I come here as a prime reader of Barks (whom I had
never heard of) back in the 50s and 60s. One of the 10 pagers about a race to
the moon so engrossed me that I plagerized the thing and wrote a story for
school. I even traced several of the panels thus pretty well uncovering the true
origin of the story :-) I absolutely loved these stories as a child and re-
reading them now brings back many memories of my childhood.
I had subscriptions back then when the books were a dime and read them over and
over saving the books in a rickety pine bookcase I had hammered together. I
thought Walt drew all these comics and occasionally there would be a story in
which the ducks bills were to fat, and the background not rendered at all well,
and the stories were kinda blah. I figured that Walt was overloaded those days
and had to turn over the job to an assistant.
A couple of weeks ago I received the 4 Don Rosa Scrooge adventures that contain
some terrific stuff. I know that if I had these stories when I was a child that
I probably would have thought they were done by Walt also and would have entered
my memory along side of "Ghost of the Grotto" as one of my favs. But because I
only read it now as an overgrown child, I miss the wonder and magic. Too bad for
me, but I hope to have grandchildren coming and will I have a treasure for them!
------------
Rik in Carlisle, MA
(Email removed)
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Soeren Schridde
50th anniversary
Message 274 -
1997-07-30 at 19:25:41
As noone else has commented on the German U$ 50th anniversary album
so far, I'll add my two cents...
besides great stories from Don, Carl and Daan Jippes it contains a
double page (does this word exist in English?) for
- Scrooge's timetable... premiere 1947 to 1997
- famous storytelleers: Barks, Rosa, van Horn
- a single page about German Disney-comic-publications (other series)
- a page about the German translator Dr. Erika Fuchs (she is also in
her nineties!)
- other duckuments like the model sheet, figurine, his first dime
etc...
So, time's up for two cents!
Bye, Soeren
<(Email removed)>
Soeren Schridde
Kurt-Tucholsky-Str.1
49088 Osnabrueck
Germany
eMail: (Email removed)
Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ 541/150764
so far, I'll add my two cents...
besides great stories from Don, Carl and Daan Jippes it contains a
double page (does this word exist in English?) for
- Scrooge's timetable... premiere 1947 to 1997
- famous storytelleers: Barks, Rosa, van Horn
- a single page about German Disney-comic-publications (other series)
- a page about the German translator Dr. Erika Fuchs (she is also in
her nineties!)
- other duckuments like the model sheet, figurine, his first dime
etc...
So, time's up for two cents!
Bye, Soeren
<(Email removed)>
Soeren Schridde
Kurt-Tucholsky-Str.1
49088 Osnabrueck
Germany
eMail: (Email removed)
Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ 541/150764
Rich Bellacera
JOE the Parrot
Message 275 -
1997-07-30 at 21:51:45
RICH B.:
>RE: JOE the PARROT:
>Both Harry & Christopher responded:
>I know Barks used that parrot often in his oil paintings, usually carrying
>a little suitcase with the name "JOE" on it.
>RICH BELLACERA asks about the parrot named "Joe". If he's talking about "a
>guy named Joe from Singapore," who appeared in the Barks story in WDC&S 65,
>then he's correct; this character is a normal looking parrot who can carry on
>conversations with the Ducks, not a version of Jose Carioca. As far as I
>know, WDC&S 65 was the only time Barks ever used the character, though of
>course he used parrots in a number of other stories.
Yes, both instances [the WDC&S issue and the painting(s)] are what I am
referring
to. Thank you for that information. However, that makes this critter
somewhat an
enigma. If, as you suggest, this "Joe" was a one-shot character, and if
the little
parrot in the painting (the one I'm thinking of has most of Carl's immortal
creations
and most of the "classic" Disney characters in it at a picnic/car race),
why would
Mr. Barks immortalized this little bird? I can't believe that the "Joe" in
the painting
IS Carioca since he is not the same stature and form as his typical
anthropomorphic
characters. Does he, perhaps, mean something on a deeper level to Carl Barks?
BTW, any light you can shed on the other characters I mentioned (Dora, Alvin,
Millie and Hunky) would also be appreciated.
Thanx, Rich
>RE: "MM in Love Trouble"
>Or could Disney be offended by the fact that Mickey
>lavishes attention upon another female mouse besides Minnie in this story?
> In any event, I'd love to see this story reprinted by Gladstone. The story
>already exists in formatted form (the serialization in early issues of
>WDC&S), so the cost of printing it would probably be small.
>RE: JOE the PARROT:
>Both Harry & Christopher responded:
>I know Barks used that parrot often in his oil paintings, usually carrying
>a little suitcase with the name "JOE" on it.
>RICH BELLACERA asks about the parrot named "Joe". If he's talking about "a
>guy named Joe from Singapore," who appeared in the Barks story in WDC&S 65,
>then he's correct; this character is a normal looking parrot who can carry on
>conversations with the Ducks, not a version of Jose Carioca. As far as I
>know, WDC&S 65 was the only time Barks ever used the character, though of
>course he used parrots in a number of other stories.
Yes, both instances [the WDC&S issue and the painting(s)] are what I am
referring
to. Thank you for that information. However, that makes this critter
somewhat an
enigma. If, as you suggest, this "Joe" was a one-shot character, and if
the little
parrot in the painting (the one I'm thinking of has most of Carl's immortal
creations
and most of the "classic" Disney characters in it at a picnic/car race),
why would
Mr. Barks immortalized this little bird? I can't believe that the "Joe" in
the painting
IS Carioca since he is not the same stature and form as his typical
anthropomorphic
characters. Does he, perhaps, mean something on a deeper level to Carl Barks?
BTW, any light you can shed on the other characters I mentioned (Dora, Alvin,
Millie and Hunky) would also be appreciated.
Thanx, Rich
>RE: "MM in Love Trouble"
>Or could Disney be offended by the fact that Mickey
>lavishes attention upon another female mouse besides Minnie in this story?
> In any event, I'd love to see this story reprinted by Gladstone. The story
>already exists in formatted form (the serialization in early issues of
>WDC&S), so the cost of printing it would probably be small.
Harry Fluks
Barat in outer space
Message 276 -
1997-07-30 at 23:16:44
CHRIS:
> Even Carl's personal-favorite space operas, "Island in the Sky"
> and "Micro-Ducks", are chock-full of easily-detectable logical holes.
Which logical holes are there in "Micro-Ducks"?
--Harry.
> Even Carl's personal-favorite space operas, "Island in the Sky"
> and "Micro-Ducks", are chock-full of easily-detectable logical holes.
Which logical holes are there in "Micro-Ducks"?
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
JOE the Parrot
Message 277 -
1997-07-30 at 23:46:28
Rich B.:
> why would Mr. Barks immortalized this little bird?
I think he was asked to put Joe in his paintings by the fans who asked him
to do the paintings.
> I can't believe that the "Joe" in the painting IS Carioca
He definitely is not Joe Carioca. Barks has nothing with Carioca.
--Harry.
> why would Mr. Barks immortalized this little bird?
I think he was asked to put Joe in his paintings by the fans who asked him
to do the paintings.
> I can't believe that the "Joe" in the painting IS Carioca
He definitely is not Joe Carioca. Barks has nothing with Carioca.
--Harry.
Ram Samudrala
Don Rosa bound album/new stories
Message 278 -
1997-07-31 at 00:14:57
I'm just reading the new Rosa stories. I've not gotten to the Life
and Times part 6.5, but I just finished the Treasure of the Ten
Avatars: the story is incredibly clever in terms of use of the Hindu
mythology though the art I don't think is of Rosa's usual quality---is
this my opinion only? Perhaps it is because it's not only thick paper
in album format.
Regarding purchasing the bound copies, does Rosa see any money from
these sales? I'm curious as that would be my only real motivation for
buying them (I already have two sets, one of which I have gotten bound
myself and I think it looks stunningly handsome).
Rik in Carlisle, MA made a remark about missing the wonder and magic
because he reads it as an overgrown child. I read these stories with
more wonder and appreciation than I did as a kid, this in fact what
has gotten me fanatical about collecting these comic books.
I'll probably unsubscribe from this on the 31st (I'm moving to CA). So
any responses would be appreciated before then. Thanks.
--Ram
(Email removed) || http://www.ram.org || http://www.twisted-helices.com/th
Reagan became senile. Bush already was. Clinton acts like he is.
and Times part 6.5, but I just finished the Treasure of the Ten
Avatars: the story is incredibly clever in terms of use of the Hindu
mythology though the art I don't think is of Rosa's usual quality---is
this my opinion only? Perhaps it is because it's not only thick paper
in album format.
Regarding purchasing the bound copies, does Rosa see any money from
these sales? I'm curious as that would be my only real motivation for
buying them (I already have two sets, one of which I have gotten bound
myself and I think it looks stunningly handsome).
Rik in Carlisle, MA made a remark about missing the wonder and magic
because he reads it as an overgrown child. I read these stories with
more wonder and appreciation than I did as a kid, this in fact what
has gotten me fanatical about collecting these comic books.
I'll probably unsubscribe from this on the 31st (I'm moving to CA). So
any responses would be appreciated before then. Thanks.
--Ram
(Email removed) || http://www.ram.org || http://www.twisted-helices.com/th
Reagan became senile. Bush already was. Clinton acts like he is.
Eric Chun
(No subject)
Message 279 -
1997-07-31 at 02:54:16
Don wrote:
> "You must read up on the history of vampires!"
> "Yes, we have numerous books on the subject."
> "Only a few are valid. Do you have 'The Vampires of Budapest'?"
> "No..."
> "How about 'Fangs of the Undead'?"
> "No..."
> "Do you have 'Nosferatu'?
> "YES, we have 'Nosferatu'! We have 'Nosferatu' today! ...It
> came in the post!"
Is "nosferatu" mistaken for "news for you too"? ("Nosferatu" is
supposed to be the name of vampire.)
-
Just a couple of months ago, Mark Evanier mentioned (on the Groo
mailing list) that he and Sergio Aragones (of MAD magazine, Groo
comic books, and this year's Ruben award winner!) both read Don-
ald Duck comic books.
-
See ya later.
Eric
> "You must read up on the history of vampires!"
> "Yes, we have numerous books on the subject."
> "Only a few are valid. Do you have 'The Vampires of Budapest'?"
> "No..."
> "How about 'Fangs of the Undead'?"
> "No..."
> "Do you have 'Nosferatu'?
> "YES, we have 'Nosferatu'! We have 'Nosferatu' today! ...It
> came in the post!"
Is "nosferatu" mistaken for "news for you too"? ("Nosferatu" is
supposed to be the name of vampire.)
-
Just a couple of months ago, Mark Evanier mentioned (on the Groo
mailing list) that he and Sergio Aragones (of MAD magazine, Groo
comic books, and this year's Ruben award winner!) both read Don-
ald Duck comic books.
-
See ya later.
Eric
Mattias Hallin
Unidentified subject!
Message 280 -
1997-07-31 at 08:08:17
At 16.54 1997-07-30, Eric Chun wrote:
>Is "nosferatu" mistaken for "news for you too"? ("Nosferatu" is
>supposed to be the name of vampire.)
I hardly think so; Nosferatu is certainly the name of a vampire, but also
the title of the book *about* Nosferatu (like "Donald Duck" is both a comic
book character and the name of a comic book about that character ;-).
And the initial part of the dialogue says:
> "You must read up on the history of vampires!"
/Mattias
**** Mattias Hallin ** Halmstad * Sweden ** <(Email removed)> ****
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
>Is "nosferatu" mistaken for "news for you too"? ("Nosferatu" is
>supposed to be the name of vampire.)
I hardly think so; Nosferatu is certainly the name of a vampire, but also
the title of the book *about* Nosferatu (like "Donald Duck" is both a comic
book character and the name of a comic book about that character ;-).
And the initial part of the dialogue says:
> "You must read up on the history of vampires!"
/Mattias
**** Mattias Hallin ** Halmstad * Sweden ** <(Email removed)> ****
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
Shaun M. Knowler
Lo$ HC
Message 281 -
1997-07-31 at 23:10:25
I placed my order for this long-awaited book yesterday, and now I have
some questions!
GARY:
What will the Canadian price be?
What kind of paper will the interiors be printed on?
What will be on the cover?
Will the coloring of the series be changed? (IE, errors corrected, and the
whole $crooge's brown hair controversy)
Thanks,
-Shaun
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some questions!
GARY:
What will the Canadian price be?
What kind of paper will the interiors be printed on?
What will be on the cover?
Will the coloring of the series be changed? (IE, errors corrected, and the
whole $crooge's brown hair controversy)
Thanks,
-Shaun
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