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Kristian Thougaard Pedersen
POUL wrote about The Treasure of Marco Polo:

>I loosely checked the Danish translation of the text and it matched
>pretty well. That is, it matched Gladstones recent published version
>from U$A (#41 ?).

One line was *totally* altered. In the original version (and I don't
know whether this holds for Gladstone's recent version as well), a
character complains about cheap watches that doesn't work in the words:
"Shows you can't trust these watches from the workers' paradise". But in
the Danish version it is (retranslated back from Danish): "Shows you
can't trust these McDuck watches." !!! The point of the joke turned
around 180 degrees! I'd say that is a criminally bad translation.

Kristian
OSSI
Hi all!!
Did you know that "The Son of the Sun" is actually made in 1973!!
Rosa made it with his OWN creatures, but later he could use Disney's
creatures..
Later "The Son of the Sun" was almost excatly same as in 1973 made..
Don drew his firs "The Son of the Sun" to "fanzine"-magazines...
I got this information from the book called "Guardians of the Lost Library"
It's book that is published only in Finland.
There is only Rosa's comics...
So, I just wanted to announce this thing...:)
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Harry Fluks
MATTHIEU:

Ouelcum! 8-)

> I noticed in the archive that only "Le Journal de Mickey" is
> mentioned.

The Database contains a lot of information about French comics, like
Picsou Magazine and Mickey Parade, but the only comics that have
been indexed *completely* are some Journal de Mickeys.

At the moment, Francois Willot and I are working on transferring his
elaborate index to our Database. (Francois is not a list member, though.)

Didier Ghez (who *is* a list member, and he's French) has delivered
a French Don Rosa index, which includes the Rosa stories in Picsou
Magazine.

Any help is welcome! Please contact me in private mail if you want to
help with our Database!

--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, Les Pays-Bas
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Harry Fluks
GERMUND:

me> Martin Olsen once published a complete Murry index
> I guess you're referring to the index published in Danish Carl Barks & C:o
> 18, which unfortunately missed a few gags and hard-not-to-miss stuff. On
> the other hand, I think he even wrote that he didn't go through every
> single issue of WD's Comics Digest.

Right, that's the one I mean. Since the foreword is in Danish, I didn't
read that...

> Klaus Spillman in Germany compiled a near complete checklist of all Murry's
> stories

Can you give information about when and where this is printed (Der
Donaldist, I assume)?

Which reminds me:

JOE TORCIVIA, CHRIS BARAT:

People have been talking about your Disney comics indexes. I'm very interested
which indexes you made, and when and where they were published. This
information is for my "Index of indexes".
Apart from that, I like to know if you allow me to use the information of those
indexes for our Database. I can imagine that you say "no" to that, but still
I'd like to know which Disney comics indexes have been published in the world.

--Harry.
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Harry Fluks
RAM:

> I'm sure the Internet Movie Database and the Ultimate Band
> List make quite a bit of money.

If I understand your description well, their software is also much more
professional than ours.

> I tried to pulling up some files, but I couldn't understand them
> easily and since I don't use Windows or generally anything by MS, I
> wasn't able to have a feel for it.

If you have suggestions for making those files more understandable (within
some other restrictions), you're welcome! Maybe an extensive help text
is needed?

> ALL this info can be updatable and changeable by
> users interactively

For the Disney comics Database, all updates go through me, except the
descriptions of stories, which you can fill in on Per's website.

If we want info to be updatable from the web, we need robust software,
which checks everything a user can input. This is not available
(and I think making it is a *lot* of work).

> I understand you're a single person doing this and this is a
> non-trivial task.

At the moment, 2 persons are programming for the Database:
I have programs to maintain the Database and produce all kinds
of output files. Per Starback has programs to create his web pages
and the search utility.
(And other people made programs for off-line browsing the
entire Database, and for converting data from and to the Database.)

> Also, for some reason the database page that I access through the
> primenet.com/bhc page after clicking through the "moved" links has
> missing link errors.

I don't know which page you are referring to. But then, I rarely browse
through the Disney web pages.

> Also, when I searched for "Life", I didn't find "The Life and Times of
> Scrooge McDuck". Is there something about the operation of database I
> am missing?

We didn't make the prefix "The Life.." a part of the title of those stories
(it's in a different database field: "series").
And since the search utility can only search on code and title, you can't
find them this way.

> I hope you do not take my comments negatively, but what I feel is
> missing is a unified database of ALL comics ever.

It is very hard to have a database of all Disney comics, let alone all
comics in the world! One of the hard things is, for instance, identfying
a story in a (foreign) reprint.
Besides that, I wouldn't be interested in most of the non-Disney comics...

--Harry.
Harry Fluks
CAREY (and WILMER):

> The San Diego Comicon (International) this year is being held
> from July 17th through July 20th. I hope to see you there!

This is a too short time to arrange a trip from Europe to the USA...
Does anyone know next year's dates?
Anyway, as Wilmer suggested in private mail: I will be having
breakfast with you in my thoughts, even if it's tea time for me.

POUL:

> it is my impression
> that since the changes are not mentioned in Gladstones comics nor in
> the CBL (as far as I've seen), a good deal of you out there might not
> know about this modern censoring.

There is a web page dedicated to this, compiled by Daniel van Eijmeren.
You can find it somewhere on the (Per Starback's) Disney comics website:
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/

--Harry.
Cato Tveit
Christopher E. Barat wrote:
>I'm not really sure how seriously we should take the occasional
appearances
>of "higher mathematics" in Duck stories.

Fredrik Sandstrom wrote:
>A silly thought just popped into my head: How come the Ducks use
>base 10 when they only have 8 fingers? :)

What about:
`Aritmethic is being able to count up to 16 whitout taking off your shoes`
-Mickey Mouse-

Cato
Rob Gibson
I am interested in meeting for breakfast while attending my FIRST comic
book convention in San Diego. I don't often have the occasion to meet
other Disney comics fans in person. It sounds like fun.
If people can associate Gladstone issues with the Don Rosa stories they
are describing, perhaps I can contact Gladstone to order these books. Or
if people know a better way for me to get my hands on these books, I'd
like to hear about it.
Rob Gibson
Rob Gibson
Thanks to Harry for comments regarding story ratings I raised. FYI, The
convention is scheduled for Thursday through Sunday, July 17-20, at teh
San Diego Convention Center. They have a website!
All people who contribute to the creation and publication of that
artform known as the comic book need to be occasionally applauded for
the hard work they do. To all of you( and you know who you are ) thank
you very much!
Rob Gibson
Harald Havas
Hi,

Yes, I have been absent for quite a while, and yes, this is
definitely off-topic, but still I hope that someone of you gentle and
well-informed people of the list can answer a question somebody has
been bothering me with for some time now:
-------
Is Tweety male or female?
-------

Please forward any insights to my mail-adress
((Email removed)) as I am WAY behind in my reading of the
list (sorrily).

BTW: if you'd like you can check into some of the comics-related
Internet-Sites I'm managing:

http://www.blackbox.at/webcomix
Dedicated to Austrian comics and their creators
(English version planned)

http://www.blattform.co.at/kunst/moga
Dedicated to a Stuttgart-Vienna coproduced fanzine.

(Email removed)
Discussion forum, part of a large area dedicated to comics, Disney,
cartoons and so on I'm maintaining on an Viennese First Class
Client mailbox system (6000 subscribers). You can either send in
mails blindly, hoping for someone to answer ;-) or try to enter it
from the net: it's possible, but difficult - you'll need "Telnet
Applications" or other stuff, I'm not familiar with. But if you'd
like to try go to: http://www.blackbox.at

cu

Harald
--- Harald Havas <(Email removed)>

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Eric Chun
Carey wrote:
>I'll be at the San Diego con this year and would love to attend
>a breakfast for the mailing list. Friday morning would be best for
>me. (I tried to attend last year, but couldn't find the restaurant
>in the Marriott -- quite embarrasing.)

It wasn't the easy to find it -- it was downstairs. (There are four
different restaurants in the Marriott hotel.)

Which one should we go to this year? Also, what day and time?

Harry wrote:
>My only irritation is that noone writes WHEN that con is! You are all
>talking about "Friday", without mentioning a date! How am I supposed
>to know when to take a plane across the Atlantic?

The San Diego Comic Con takes place July 17-20 at the San Diego Con-
vention Center. There is a web site for the SDCC:

http://www2.comic-con.org/comiccon

Hope to see all of you there.

Eric

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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
HARRY AND ALL:

>Maybe some implicit rules should be stated explicitly? Like:
>
>- Send your contributions to Archontis only, not to the list. Archontis will
>post a resume of the reactions after the voting (I assume!)

You are of course, right! I wouldn't want to keep the results of the survey
to myself, hidden in a secret (OSO) safe, where only I could see them! That
would be pretty vane, eh? :-)

>- You don't need to fill in ALL categories. For instance, if you don't
>know 3 stories that can qualify as Don's best, 2 or 1 would also
>be enough. (Just an imaginary example... 8-)

Right on the mark again! If anyone wants, he may NOT fill out ANY spots in a
given category!

>> 2) Pick 3 OPENING SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:
>> 3) Pick 3 INTERIOR SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:
>
>- Splash panels of part 2 and 3 of a multi-part story are considered
>Interior splash panels (right?)

Yes! Right on the mark again, Harry! :-) (You are hereby appointed my
official assistant to this survey! :-))

And someone else said that I failed to mention the deadline for submitting
the responses--well, I know that (as Harry mentioned above) I failed to
write down explicitly some implicitly understood rules, but the DEADLINE I
didn't forget!

I repeat, as things stand as of now, it's JULY 31, 1997.

Archontis--watching (believe me, not with Neronian feelings) from his office
window a bulimic fire, aided by gusting winds, consuming the most beautiful
forest surrounding Thessaloniki, "Seich-Sou". I really feel sick!
Mikko Pohjola
BYRON:
Several list messages seem to suggest Egmont is going to publish
some great material in the coming few weeks; "The Treasure of Marco Polo"
and "A Little Something Special" for example. Could it be possible to get
some info about these kinds of publications well before? No, it wouldn't
actually have any use, but it'd be great knowing that stuff before anyone
else :)

DON:
Could you post to the list the schedual of your upcoming trip to
Europe? Also, I don't think it's been asked of you recently, so what story
are you working on now?

TODD:
> How will the European translators handle the very odd dialect
> that occurs in Chapter Two?

Probably change it to some very stereotype accent (at least in
Finland they're great with synonymes and colorful expressions, but not too
hot on dialects and accents - but on the other hand, their excellent use
of proper Finnish is praised by many, including me) or simply translate it
into "Except for a few nice people I know who live there". Perhaps it'd
help if they were told that...

> And yes, that's how they talk in Kentucky !

...it's the dialect of the creator's home town.

Btw, if you can't get the pens anywhere else, I can have a look,
now as this other guy's going on a vacation.

OSSI:
See the private mail I sent you about the contents of "GotLL" hard
cover book and this list.

CATO:
> `Aritmethic is being able to count up to 16 whitout taking off your shoes`
> -Mickey Mouse-

But even if you have five digits in the end of every limb, you
still can't count to 16 without taking off both of your shoes. 15, si! 16,
no! That's quite clever, the way Mickey put it there.

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
NISSE JAKOB KRENCHEL
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EIRIK wrote:
>Is this really a
>brand new story, orjust that it's never been published in
>Scandinavia before ?

It has *just* never been printed in Scandinavia before.

mvh/Nisse
Kfitz
Harry,

<As I said at the time, "Cash Flow" was not one of the first Rosa stories I
read.
I even stated that I may have liked the story more if I had read it
*before* all
the other Rosa stories.>

I no longer have my copy of the Gladstone (?) issue that had "Cash Flow" by
Don Rosa and regret it. I really enjoyed the story and it was, I believe,
the second Don Rosa story I ever read, so I am sure you would have liked it
more if you had read it before all of his other stories. Someone on this
list around a year ago suggested that "Cash Flow" was reprinted in Don's
first collection of stories put out by Gladstone, but I checked and think
that person had it mixed up with "Money Pit" which was in that collection.

Anyhow, one of the things I liked about the story was the continuity of the
two ray guns a professor invented while trying to develop odorless cabbage
(and I do not have that story either and cannot tell you if it was Bark's
or Rosa's, sorry) and the Beagle Boys stole. One of the guns was anti
inertia. I would love to see the story reprinted or put in a Rosa
collection.

Kathy Fitzpatrick, Everett, Washington
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