Mikko:
We have just received Anders and & Co. Nr. 27 - 3. juli 1997, which
features "The Treasure of Marco Polo" accompanied by "The Inch-Square
Fortune" in a special yellow-bordered section.
Gary
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"Ee!" - Tiffany Case (as two flaming shish kebabs unpleasantly
approach...)
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Bhc
Disney comics Digest V97 #140
Message 91 -
1997-07-09 at 02:46:33
Cebarat
Disney comics Digest V97 #140
Message 92 -
1997-07-09 at 04:06:40
GARY describes the two new Gladstone titles thusly:
UNCLE SCROOGE AND DONALD DUCK: <<Anything goes. We do hope to focus on
recent Scrooge & Donald material produced by Egmont, Disney Italy, Oberon,
and other fellow publishers, with perhaps a scrap or two of Gladstone
commissioned stuff just for fun (it certainly won't be for profit!).>>
THE ADVENTUROUS UNCLE $CROOGE McDUCK: <<We have taken the monthly USA and
divided it into the bimonthly USA and TAUSM. Why? The newsstands. Beyond
that, I ain't talkin'...I ain't got the strength!>>
Good news, that, regarding U$&DD. A lot of the recent Egmont Duck stuff has
been fairly old, judging from the production codes. I'd like to see more
recent material.
My concern about TAU$M is this: How in the heck are you going to fit that
title onto a cover? It'll practically be lying atop poor Scrooge's back, or
at least threatening to knock his top hat off!
BTW, all: do not be surprised if I'm incommunicado for a while after the
10th. I will be on vacation (including the SD Con) from the 10th through the
24th.
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
Homepage http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"MAKING MONEY AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS IS NO BARGAIN!" -- Scrooge McDuck,
"DuckTales" episode "Duck to the Future"
UNCLE SCROOGE AND DONALD DUCK: <<Anything goes. We do hope to focus on
recent Scrooge & Donald material produced by Egmont, Disney Italy, Oberon,
and other fellow publishers, with perhaps a scrap or two of Gladstone
commissioned stuff just for fun (it certainly won't be for profit!).>>
THE ADVENTUROUS UNCLE $CROOGE McDUCK: <<We have taken the monthly USA and
divided it into the bimonthly USA and TAUSM. Why? The newsstands. Beyond
that, I ain't talkin'...I ain't got the strength!>>
Good news, that, regarding U$&DD. A lot of the recent Egmont Duck stuff has
been fairly old, judging from the production codes. I'd like to see more
recent material.
My concern about TAU$M is this: How in the heck are you going to fit that
title onto a cover? It'll practically be lying atop poor Scrooge's back, or
at least threatening to knock his top hat off!
BTW, all: do not be surprised if I'm incommunicado for a while after the
10th. I will be on vacation (including the SD Con) from the 10th through the
24th.
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
Homepage http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"MAKING MONEY AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS IS NO BARGAIN!" -- Scrooge McDuck,
"DuckTales" episode "Duck to the Future"
Dave Rawson
Disney comics Digest V97 #140
Message 93 -
1997-07-09 at 04:19:42
Kriton Kyrimis <(Email removed)>:
> it is interesting to note [in COOT'S HUT] that Barks ignores the fact
> that the money bin has been built on top of the foundations of fort
> Duckburg (from "The Money Well") rather than Coot's hut.
Interesting, but not out of line with what he told me a couple of years
ago, that what's fact in one story can be discarded in another. It is
Barks' delight to put up a mountain today, where none was before, and
take it down tomorrow, at whim. The joy for him is in the story-telling,
not in the minutiae of the duck "universe". As he explained it to me, he
actually has a fear any such canonical approach will ultimately ossify
and strangle everything he created, as he felt it had many a super-hero
"universe" before (in his opinion).
Then again, maybe he just forgot what he had already written! After all,
he's been at this far, far longer than any of us...
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
> it is interesting to note [in COOT'S HUT] that Barks ignores the fact
> that the money bin has been built on top of the foundations of fort
> Duckburg (from "The Money Well") rather than Coot's hut.
Interesting, but not out of line with what he told me a couple of years
ago, that what's fact in one story can be discarded in another. It is
Barks' delight to put up a mountain today, where none was before, and
take it down tomorrow, at whim. The joy for him is in the story-telling,
not in the minutiae of the duck "universe". As he explained it to me, he
actually has a fear any such canonical approach will ultimately ossify
and strangle everything he created, as he felt it had many a super-hero
"universe" before (in his opinion).
Then again, maybe he just forgot what he had already written! After all,
he's been at this far, far longer than any of us...
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
Syed Faraz Ali
HELLO EVERYBODY!
Message 94 -
1997-07-09 at 10:06:13
Hello Everybody!
My name is FARAZ. I am 17M from Pakistan.I had seen good cartoon of disney
on television, and i like all cartoons of disney. My other hobbies are
cricket, collecting stamps and coins, swimming etc.If everyone from
anywhere wanted to talk then i am available at
<(Email removed)>
FARAZ.
My name is FARAZ. I am 17M from Pakistan.I had seen good cartoon of disney
on television, and i like all cartoons of disney. My other hobbies are
cricket, collecting stamps and coins, swimming etc.If everyone from
anywhere wanted to talk then i am available at
<(Email removed)>
FARAZ.
Harry Fluks
Jippes redrawing Barks scripts
Message 95 -
1997-07-09 at 11:23:19
ARCHONTIS (and KRITON):
*Minor spoiler* about "Coot's Hut":
At the end of the story, Scrooge's money bin comes out *not* to be the
place where Coot's cabin was located.
> Nah, that's NOT a new Barks story--it's a Junior Woodchucks Barks script
> written in the early 70's. Daan Jippes has been re-drawing some of these JW
> Barks scripts in the early 90's. I think he's stopped doing that, not having
> re-drawn ALL these JW Barks scripts. Don't know the reason exactly.
Jippes started doing it because he needed the money! Apparently, he's in no
big need anymore.
> Gladstone HAS published in the last couple of years most (if not all)
> of these new Jippes-drawn JW Barks scripts
The following stories have been published by Gladstone (and by Egmont):
H 92001 12 pg. US T:Duckmade Disaster [JW 14]
| us : US 287 dk : AA93-27
H 92002 6 pg. JW T:Bad Day for Troop 'A' [JW 8]
| us : WDG 6 dk : AA93-21
H 92012 12 pg. JW T:Storm Dancers [JW 12]
| us : DDA 32 dk : AA94B32
H 92051 13 pg. JW T:The Day the Mountain Shook [JW 13]
| us : WDG 6 dk : AA94-29
H 92085 13 pg. DD T:Traitor in the Ranks [JW 11]
| us : DDA 31 dk : AA93-37
H 92107 12 pg. JW T:Gold of the '49ers [JW 13]
| us : US 293 dk : AA95-14
H 94001 13 pg. JW T:Maple Sugar Time (How Sweet It Is!) [JW 10]
| us : WDC 607 dk : AA97-09
(For space reasons I only put the US and Danish reprints in this little list.)
There are two stories that so far have only been printed in Holland:
H 94141 12 pg. JW T:Bottled Battlers [app:MDS] [JW 10]
H 95145 14 pg. DD H:Officer for a day [app:BB] [DD 126]
The last one was printed a few months ago (with a beautiful cover based
on a Barks sketch), so there *is* hope that Jippes is still continuing his work...
On the other hand, Mau Heymans has started redrawing some JW scripts.
One of them was published in Holland:
H 92020 16 pg. DD H:Music Hath Charms [JW 21] [inked by Peter Colle]
Mau told me last year that he planned to do 3 more JW scripts this year.
His drawings are less faithful to the original Barks sketches, but still
a *lot* better than the "original" Strobl/Wright drawings!
--Harry.
*Minor spoiler* about "Coot's Hut":
At the end of the story, Scrooge's money bin comes out *not* to be the
place where Coot's cabin was located.
> Nah, that's NOT a new Barks story--it's a Junior Woodchucks Barks script
> written in the early 70's. Daan Jippes has been re-drawing some of these JW
> Barks scripts in the early 90's. I think he's stopped doing that, not having
> re-drawn ALL these JW Barks scripts. Don't know the reason exactly.
Jippes started doing it because he needed the money! Apparently, he's in no
big need anymore.
> Gladstone HAS published in the last couple of years most (if not all)
> of these new Jippes-drawn JW Barks scripts
The following stories have been published by Gladstone (and by Egmont):
H 92001 12 pg. US T:Duckmade Disaster [JW 14]
| us : US 287 dk : AA93-27
H 92002 6 pg. JW T:Bad Day for Troop 'A' [JW 8]
| us : WDG 6 dk : AA93-21
H 92012 12 pg. JW T:Storm Dancers [JW 12]
| us : DDA 32 dk : AA94B32
H 92051 13 pg. JW T:The Day the Mountain Shook [JW 13]
| us : WDG 6 dk : AA94-29
H 92085 13 pg. DD T:Traitor in the Ranks [JW 11]
| us : DDA 31 dk : AA93-37
H 92107 12 pg. JW T:Gold of the '49ers [JW 13]
| us : US 293 dk : AA95-14
H 94001 13 pg. JW T:Maple Sugar Time (How Sweet It Is!) [JW 10]
| us : WDC 607 dk : AA97-09
(For space reasons I only put the US and Danish reprints in this little list.)
There are two stories that so far have only been printed in Holland:
H 94141 12 pg. JW T:Bottled Battlers [app:MDS] [JW 10]
H 95145 14 pg. DD H:Officer for a day [app:BB] [DD 126]
The last one was printed a few months ago (with a beautiful cover based
on a Barks sketch), so there *is* hope that Jippes is still continuing his work...
On the other hand, Mau Heymans has started redrawing some JW scripts.
One of them was published in Holland:
H 92020 16 pg. DD H:Music Hath Charms [JW 21] [inked by Peter Colle]
Mau told me last year that he planned to do 3 more JW scripts this year.
His drawings are less faithful to the original Barks sketches, but still
a *lot* better than the "original" Strobl/Wright drawings!
--Harry.
Mikko Pohjola
Disney comics Digest V97 #140
Message 96 -
1997-07-09 at 21:35:38
VIDAR:
> That's not so. I'm working as an interpreter for deaf, and I can tell you
> it's no problem counting to 1 billion with one hand (five fingers).
I'm sure it's quite possible to show all those numbers moving just
one hand, but do you really mean it's possible to see any number from 0 to
1000000 from the position of your hand? Isn't it more like Roman numerals
coded into movements?
However I know I was wrong anyway; converting a finger in fist as
0 and an erect finger as 1 it's possible to count from 0 to 31 easily with
just one hand. And of course several other hand movements can be made to
have numeral values... But hardly enough for one million!
ATTENTION! OBS! HUOM! ACHTUNG! CYWIR! paH'targ'a'! WAEMINGTHU! ATTENTION!
WARNING! A major spoiler for "A Little Something Special" coming!
DON:
Today the long wait finally bore fruit - the special Aku Ankka
issue with "A Little Something Special" come to the newsstands. In a local
library I had already seen the Swedish version of the story but had forced
myself not to read it in order to be able to fully enjoy it all at once -
understanding the language and not knowing anything about the plot. For
this special story I had even actually avoided those recent messages on
the list that seemed to have anything to do with this story. And then I
finally saw this issue in a book store; My mouth broke into a wide grin
and my heart begun beating like never before. The cover wasn't as gloomy
as in most Aku Ankka issues, but they had used special gloomy paper in it
- and special coloring that really looked better than the usual Egmont
colors (not as good as hand made, but better than normal, anyway). When I
finally had gotten home I went horizontal on my brand new bed (I got it
just a few hours before) opened a bag of snacks, took a bottle of
Coca-Cola from the fridge and enjoyed myself. And the story.
Now, let's jump to the point when I've read the story so I can comment on
it. Okay, the plot of the A story (or is that the B story? Or perhaps A1?)
about all the bad guys getting together to oppose Scrooge. Brilliant! I
almost even wish that you'd given that part of the story more room on the
expense of that "guess the most pleasant gift" part. I realize it was a
part of the story as well, but I find it hard to see how such a
competition could cause total anarchy in Duckburg (yes, comics about
talking ducks, but still...). And I, too, love that "What's that smell"
gag! Brilliant! As well as some other one-liners and details (including
the flying pig, the dog protecting his fire hydrant, the dialogue in
Gyro's workshop, Beagle-as-ducks dialogue, Beagles turning back to Beagles
- especially Gladstone who comes back as a Beagle but without his normal
clothing including pants ;). Once again you met my expections well and
kept going far past them!
And now for something completely different: Miky Pohjyton's Nit-picking
Circus! On page 7, panel 8, lower right corner. Flintheart has
miraculously lost his tie!-) Why's there a cross on page 9, panel 6, where
the mayor's head had been? Now, I'm no expert on American maps, but it
looks like 11:3 you have a bit exaggerated Calisota it looking to be
several times bigger than Italy and a shape to match (probably a coloring
mistake, though). After the story I read what you said about the colorists
(sorry Susan, but I couldn't found his/hers name anywhere, honest!)
mistake, but I still must mention, that I first thought Blackheart was the
Beagle Boys' father rather than their grandfather with a beard like that.
Why didn't the explosion of the "transport dust" (?) have enough power to
move Flintheart in page 25 while on page 6 it blowed up the whole shop AND
at the first time she only used enough to move one person, the next time
it was eight! Do phone lines really function like you show them to on page
19?
I was a bit afraid you'd be using some corny time machinery on page 15
when 176-176 makes his remark, but I shouldn't have doubted you :) Have
those sewers/ruins been mentioned in any old stories? And on the whole I'm
not as good in the References section as some others on the list, but I'm
willing to toss in my first dime's worth. First and most obviously, are
some (atleast two, I counted) of the Clinton Coot statues really
positioned so near the Money Bin? And then, in the second last page, the
translation says: "You left Klondike exactly fifty years ago!" How's that
possible?
My two hour access time is almost over (I wrote this on-line) but I'll be
back tomorrow with more picks to nit!
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
> That's not so. I'm working as an interpreter for deaf, and I can tell you
> it's no problem counting to 1 billion with one hand (five fingers).
I'm sure it's quite possible to show all those numbers moving just
one hand, but do you really mean it's possible to see any number from 0 to
1000000 from the position of your hand? Isn't it more like Roman numerals
coded into movements?
However I know I was wrong anyway; converting a finger in fist as
0 and an erect finger as 1 it's possible to count from 0 to 31 easily with
just one hand. And of course several other hand movements can be made to
have numeral values... But hardly enough for one million!
ATTENTION! OBS! HUOM! ACHTUNG! CYWIR! paH'targ'a'! WAEMINGTHU! ATTENTION!
WARNING! A major spoiler for "A Little Something Special" coming!
DON:
Today the long wait finally bore fruit - the special Aku Ankka
issue with "A Little Something Special" come to the newsstands. In a local
library I had already seen the Swedish version of the story but had forced
myself not to read it in order to be able to fully enjoy it all at once -
understanding the language and not knowing anything about the plot. For
this special story I had even actually avoided those recent messages on
the list that seemed to have anything to do with this story. And then I
finally saw this issue in a book store; My mouth broke into a wide grin
and my heart begun beating like never before. The cover wasn't as gloomy
as in most Aku Ankka issues, but they had used special gloomy paper in it
- and special coloring that really looked better than the usual Egmont
colors (not as good as hand made, but better than normal, anyway). When I
finally had gotten home I went horizontal on my brand new bed (I got it
just a few hours before) opened a bag of snacks, took a bottle of
Coca-Cola from the fridge and enjoyed myself. And the story.
Now, let's jump to the point when I've read the story so I can comment on
it. Okay, the plot of the A story (or is that the B story? Or perhaps A1?)
about all the bad guys getting together to oppose Scrooge. Brilliant! I
almost even wish that you'd given that part of the story more room on the
expense of that "guess the most pleasant gift" part. I realize it was a
part of the story as well, but I find it hard to see how such a
competition could cause total anarchy in Duckburg (yes, comics about
talking ducks, but still...). And I, too, love that "What's that smell"
gag! Brilliant! As well as some other one-liners and details (including
the flying pig, the dog protecting his fire hydrant, the dialogue in
Gyro's workshop, Beagle-as-ducks dialogue, Beagles turning back to Beagles
- especially Gladstone who comes back as a Beagle but without his normal
clothing including pants ;). Once again you met my expections well and
kept going far past them!
And now for something completely different: Miky Pohjyton's Nit-picking
Circus! On page 7, panel 8, lower right corner. Flintheart has
miraculously lost his tie!-) Why's there a cross on page 9, panel 6, where
the mayor's head had been? Now, I'm no expert on American maps, but it
looks like 11:3 you have a bit exaggerated Calisota it looking to be
several times bigger than Italy and a shape to match (probably a coloring
mistake, though). After the story I read what you said about the colorists
(sorry Susan, but I couldn't found his/hers name anywhere, honest!)
mistake, but I still must mention, that I first thought Blackheart was the
Beagle Boys' father rather than their grandfather with a beard like that.
Why didn't the explosion of the "transport dust" (?) have enough power to
move Flintheart in page 25 while on page 6 it blowed up the whole shop AND
at the first time she only used enough to move one person, the next time
it was eight! Do phone lines really function like you show them to on page
19?
I was a bit afraid you'd be using some corny time machinery on page 15
when 176-176 makes his remark, but I shouldn't have doubted you :) Have
those sewers/ruins been mentioned in any old stories? And on the whole I'm
not as good in the References section as some others on the list, but I'm
willing to toss in my first dime's worth. First and most obviously, are
some (atleast two, I counted) of the Clinton Coot statues really
positioned so near the Money Bin? And then, in the second last page, the
translation says: "You left Klondike exactly fifty years ago!" How's that
possible?
My two hour access time is almost over (I wrote this on-line) but I'll be
back tomorrow with more picks to nit!
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Awiles
Number 179
Message 97 -
1997-07-09 at 22:09:35
TO: (Email removed), (Email removed)
Hi!
When I was five (I'm 28 now) I traded 2 matchbox cars for the issue (with no
cover) where Uncle $crooge races to the GOLD moon. I've been hooked ever
since. I have just under 200 of the non-gladstone issues including number
179.
Andrew Wiles
(Email removed)
------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 08:00:10 -0400
From: "Don Rosa" <(Email removed)>
To: <(Email removed)>
Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #140
ALL:
Some of you oddly misinterpretted a message I posted a few days ago, where
I was asking who among you has all the UNCLE $CROOGE comics except #179. I
don't know why anyone would think that I wanted to buy, for myself, a full
set of U$ -- I would think you'd know that I've had such a set since they
were printed! But thanks for the few offers I've received -- however, I
still am curious as to who among you has a full (or near full) set of U$
except for that elusive #179.
Hi!
When I was five (I'm 28 now) I traded 2 matchbox cars for the issue (with no
cover) where Uncle $crooge races to the GOLD moon. I've been hooked ever
since. I have just under 200 of the non-gladstone issues including number
179.
Andrew Wiles
(Email removed)
------------------------------------------
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 08:00:10 -0400
From: "Don Rosa" <(Email removed)>
To: <(Email removed)>
Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #140
ALL:
Some of you oddly misinterpretted a message I posted a few days ago, where
I was asking who among you has all the UNCLE $CROOGE comics except #179. I
don't know why anyone would think that I wanted to buy, for myself, a full
set of U$ -- I would think you'd know that I've had such a set since they
were printed! But thanks for the few offers I've received -- however, I
still am curious as to who among you has a full (or near full) set of U$
except for that elusive #179.
RHODE
Disney comics Digest V97 #139
Message 98 -
1997-07-09 at 23:21:08
Ram said:
>I hope you do not take my comments negatively, but what I feel is
>missing is a unified database of ALL comics ever.
Well, if I can speak for the GCD here as a member, I believe the intention is to
move beyond America. Some foreign comics have been indexed including British &
Italian ones. The GCD grew out of an indexing group, APA-I, that is mostly
American and Canadian so it reflects that initial composition. In fact, Don
Rosa, was I believe a member of the original group and still provides data to
help on the electronic project.
I just bought some Indian comics (the subcontinent) at the Sackler Gallery of
Art that I was planning on adding. The reason that GCD doesn't import all of
the DcD (given Harry's permission) is that we index differently so all the DcD
info has to be converted, not easy without a great deal of work.
So, Ram and anyone else, feel free to sign up for the project. 25 issues every
two months and 100 issues gets you the whole database, rapidly approaching
40,000 comics. The web version remains under construction.
Mike Rhode
>I hope you do not take my comments negatively, but what I feel is
>missing is a unified database of ALL comics ever.
Well, if I can speak for the GCD here as a member, I believe the intention is to
move beyond America. Some foreign comics have been indexed including British &
Italian ones. The GCD grew out of an indexing group, APA-I, that is mostly
American and Canadian so it reflects that initial composition. In fact, Don
Rosa, was I believe a member of the original group and still provides data to
help on the electronic project.
I just bought some Indian comics (the subcontinent) at the Sackler Gallery of
Art that I was planning on adding. The reason that GCD doesn't import all of
the DcD (given Harry's permission) is that we index differently so all the DcD
info has to be converted, not easy without a great deal of work.
So, Ram and anyone else, feel free to sign up for the project. 25 issues every
two months and 100 issues gets you the whole database, rapidly approaching
40,000 comics. The web version remains under construction.
Mike Rhode
Harry Fluks
Databases
Message 99 -
1997-07-09 at 23:38:29
MIKE:
> The reason that GCD doesn't import all of
> the DcD is that we index differently so all the DcD
> info has to be converted, not easy without a great deal of work.
I understand Robert Klein has written a conversion program, which
can convert the USA comic data without much problems. We started
with the USA data to keep things simple, but we never got to non-USA
comics.
One major difference between GCD (Grand Comics Database) and DcD
(Disney comics Database) is that the DcD heaviliy relies on story codes,
which are (as far as I know) absent in the GCD.
--Harry.
> The reason that GCD doesn't import all of
> the DcD is that we index differently so all the DcD
> info has to be converted, not easy without a great deal of work.
I understand Robert Klein has written a conversion program, which
can convert the USA comic data without much problems. We started
with the USA data to keep things simple, but we never got to non-USA
comics.
One major difference between GCD (Grand Comics Database) and DcD
(Disney comics Database) is that the DcD heaviliy relies on story codes,
which are (as far as I know) absent in the GCD.
--Harry.
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Coming in September 1997
Message 100 -
1997-07-10 at 00:18:00
PREVIEWS page 263 teaches us the following:
DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES #47
"Trick or Treat" by Carl Barks, including the originally edited-out "Smorgie
the Bad" sequence. Cover by William Van Horn $1.95
UNCLE $CROOGE #307
"Temper Temper" which finds $crooge embroiled in a fanciful intrigue concocted
by a writer for a sensational tabloid.
"Plane Truth" which features $crooge, Donald, and the nephews in an
around-the-world adventure in Donalds automobile.. which has been fitted with
gyro's anti-gravity device
$1.95
UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES #53
"Secret of the Incas" part one by by Byron Erickson and Giorgio Cavazzano,
celebrating $crooge's 50th anniversary. $1.95
UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES IN COLOR #29 and #30
#29: "Island in the Sky" and "The Hound of the Whiskervilles"
#30: "Pipeline to Danger" and "Yoicks! The Fox!" $8.95 each
WALT DISNEY'S COMICS & STORIES #618
"A Dolt from the Blue" WVH 2-pager wth Gyro and Launchpad
"Making the Grade" by Don Rosa from WDC&S #547
"Perilous Partnership" by Fred Milton with Donald and his hot dog stand
"Bambi" begins reprinting the original Sunday strip adaptation
$6.95
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
VR.5 FAQkeeper - Watch VR.5 on The Sci-Fi Channel Tuesday Nights,
10 p.m. EST! Read the FAQ: http://www.nic.com/~augie/vr5/index.htm
DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES #47
"Trick or Treat" by Carl Barks, including the originally edited-out "Smorgie
the Bad" sequence. Cover by William Van Horn $1.95
UNCLE $CROOGE #307
"Temper Temper" which finds $crooge embroiled in a fanciful intrigue concocted
by a writer for a sensational tabloid.
"Plane Truth" which features $crooge, Donald, and the nephews in an
around-the-world adventure in Donalds automobile.. which has been fitted with
gyro's anti-gravity device
$1.95
UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES #53
"Secret of the Incas" part one by by Byron Erickson and Giorgio Cavazzano,
celebrating $crooge's 50th anniversary. $1.95
UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES IN COLOR #29 and #30
#29: "Island in the Sky" and "The Hound of the Whiskervilles"
#30: "Pipeline to Danger" and "Yoicks! The Fox!" $8.95 each
WALT DISNEY'S COMICS & STORIES #618
"A Dolt from the Blue" WVH 2-pager wth Gyro and Launchpad
"Making the Grade" by Don Rosa from WDC&S #547
"Perilous Partnership" by Fred Milton with Donald and his hot dog stand
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David Gerstein
Square Deals All 'Round
Message 101 -
1997-07-10 at 01:47:09
PER:
>Speaking of spelling non-standard English there's something
>interesting in Brer Rabbit One-Shot #208 (1949) that I don't know if
>anyone else has noticed. I don't have that book, so my sources are
>the following Gladstone reprints:
Which, for whatever it's worth, match the original exactly. In
case anyone's wondering, they date from before Disney began asking that the
dialogue be rewritten in reprints. So Western really did make these
changes themselves, before the first printings of the respective stories.
>I happened to notice that some of the lettering looked cramped, and I
>investigated further. If you look closely at the lettering of all of
>these it's clear that they first used "d" instead of a voiced th in
>words like "the", "this" and "that", but that they have been
>relettered with "th" instead before printing!
I've noticed this, too. Apparently it's something Western was
making a conscious effort to do at the time, although they didn't bother to
do it some years later (there are some late-1950s Br'er Rabbit stories that
use "d" for "th" again, although they're fairly few).
Anyway, Western's replacement of "d" with "th" affects ONE other
story that I've seen. Which one?
"Lost in the Andes." ;-)
Most notable panels:
Page 20, pic 5 ["Th" letters slant differently than surrounding
words; presumably replacing "De"]
Page 22, pic 8 [balloon extended on right-hand side to rewrite
"dere" as "theah", rather cramped]
Page 23, pics 6 and 8 ["That's" for "Dat's", "Theah" for "Dere";
in pic 6, "evah" seems to be a substitution too, perhaps for "nevah" --
eliminating an ungrammatical double-negative]
Page 29, pic 1 [some words cramped by the relettering], pic 3
[sound effect lettering obviously cramped in places where "th" replaced
"d"].
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Also <(Email removed)>
>Speaking of spelling non-standard English there's something
>interesting in Brer Rabbit One-Shot #208 (1949) that I don't know if
>anyone else has noticed. I don't have that book, so my sources are
>the following Gladstone reprints:
Which, for whatever it's worth, match the original exactly. In
case anyone's wondering, they date from before Disney began asking that the
dialogue be rewritten in reprints. So Western really did make these
changes themselves, before the first printings of the respective stories.
>I happened to notice that some of the lettering looked cramped, and I
>investigated further. If you look closely at the lettering of all of
>these it's clear that they first used "d" instead of a voiced th in
>words like "the", "this" and "that", but that they have been
>relettered with "th" instead before printing!
I've noticed this, too. Apparently it's something Western was
making a conscious effort to do at the time, although they didn't bother to
do it some years later (there are some late-1950s Br'er Rabbit stories that
use "d" for "th" again, although they're fairly few).
Anyway, Western's replacement of "d" with "th" affects ONE other
story that I've seen. Which one?
"Lost in the Andes." ;-)
Most notable panels:
Page 20, pic 5 ["Th" letters slant differently than surrounding
words; presumably replacing "De"]
Page 22, pic 8 [balloon extended on right-hand side to rewrite
"dere" as "theah", rather cramped]
Page 23, pics 6 and 8 ["That's" for "Dat's", "Theah" for "Dere";
in pic 6, "evah" seems to be a substitution too, perhaps for "nevah" --
eliminating an ungrammatical double-negative]
Page 29, pic 1 [some words cramped by the relettering], pic 3
[sound effect lettering obviously cramped in places where "th" replaced
"d"].
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Also <(Email removed)>
Marco Barlotti
Various
Message 102 -
1997-07-10 at 02:13:27
Back to Firenze for a couple of days, I've scrimmed my digests and here are
just two quick comments:
WAR OF THE WENDIGO
>
>CHRISTIAN:
>
> > AU PAYS DES PYGMEES (code WR. U.S. 18.)
> [...]
> > BTW is there a Don Rosa sequel to this story?
>
>Yes, it's called "War of the Wendigo". It's banned in the US, but I and
>Mike S. are about to get it out even though... ;-) (Nope, no questions on
>this topic will be answered, we'll let you know)
>
>
Don't forget that, if you manage to get hold of the pictures, you can find
the original text on my website at the location:
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/WoW.html
KRITON:
>
>COOT'S HUT
>Duckburg's citizens are out in the streets, rallying to demand the
>restoration of what could be the most historic monument of the city,
>the hut in which the founder of Duckburg, Cornelius Coot, first lived!
>The only problem is that a behemoth of power and wealth, Scrooge McDuck's
>money bin, has been built on top of Coot's hut... This exciting story
>is signed by Carl Barks and Daan Jippes.
>
>Is this really a new Barks story?
>
This sounds like a JW story from
HUEY, DEWEY AND LOUIE JUNIOR WOODCHUCKS 14, 5/1972
"Duckmade Disaster"
originally drawn by Kay Wright (inked by Larry Mayer) and redrawn by Daan
Jippes.
May I add for Italian members that the first version appeared on "Topolino"
#880 (8th October 1972) and the second one appeared on "Zio Paperone" #82
(July 1996).
See you again in ten days!
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
just two quick comments:
WAR OF THE WENDIGO
>
>CHRISTIAN:
>
> > AU PAYS DES PYGMEES (code WR. U.S. 18.)
> [...]
> > BTW is there a Don Rosa sequel to this story?
>
>Yes, it's called "War of the Wendigo". It's banned in the US, but I and
>Mike S. are about to get it out even though... ;-) (Nope, no questions on
>this topic will be answered, we'll let you know)
>
>
Don't forget that, if you manage to get hold of the pictures, you can find
the original text on my website at the location:
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/WoW.html
KRITON:
>
>COOT'S HUT
>Duckburg's citizens are out in the streets, rallying to demand the
>restoration of what could be the most historic monument of the city,
>the hut in which the founder of Duckburg, Cornelius Coot, first lived!
>The only problem is that a behemoth of power and wealth, Scrooge McDuck's
>money bin, has been built on top of Coot's hut... This exciting story
>is signed by Carl Barks and Daan Jippes.
>
>Is this really a new Barks story?
>
This sounds like a JW story from
HUEY, DEWEY AND LOUIE JUNIOR WOODCHUCKS 14, 5/1972
"Duckmade Disaster"
originally drawn by Kay Wright (inked by Larry Mayer) and redrawn by Daan
Jippes.
May I add for Italian members that the first version appeared on "Topolino"
#880 (8th October 1972) and the second one appeared on "Zio Paperone" #82
(July 1996).
See you again in ten days!
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Vidar Svendsen
Disney comics Digest V97 #140
Message 103 -
1997-07-10 at 23:02:10
At 21:35 09.07.97 +0300, you wrote:
>VIDAR:
>> That's not so. I'm working as an interpreter for deaf, and I can tell you
>> it's no problem counting to 1 billion with one hand (five fingers).
>
> I'm sure it's quite possible to show all those numbers moving just
>one hand, but do you really mean it's possible to see any number from 0 to
>1000000 from the position of your hand? Isn't it more like Roman numerals
>coded into movements?
You don't have to move your hand from 1 to 9. A number like 36 you can
make by holding three fingers in the air (3) and then your thumb (6).
Usually you do it another way, though.
> However I know I was wrong anyway; converting a finger in fist as
>0 and an erect finger as 1 it's possible to count from 0 to 31 easily with
>just one hand. And of course several other hand movements can be made to
>have numeral values... But hardly enough for one million!
1 mill. is
a) one finger in the air
b) make an o with all five fingers and move your hand upwards
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #142
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>VIDAR:
>> That's not so. I'm working as an interpreter for deaf, and I can tell you
>> it's no problem counting to 1 billion with one hand (five fingers).
>
> I'm sure it's quite possible to show all those numbers moving just
>one hand, but do you really mean it's possible to see any number from 0 to
>1000000 from the position of your hand? Isn't it more like Roman numerals
>coded into movements?
You don't have to move your hand from 1 to 9. A number like 36 you can
make by holding three fingers in the air (3) and then your thumb (6).
Usually you do it another way, though.
> However I know I was wrong anyway; converting a finger in fist as
>0 and an erect finger as 1 it's possible to count from 0 to 31 easily with
>just one hand. And of course several other hand movements can be made to
>have numeral values... But hardly enough for one million!
1 mill. is
a) one finger in the air
b) make an o with all five fingers and move your hand upwards
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #142
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Deckerd
Sandy Eggo breakfast?
Message 104 -
1997-07-11 at 01:08:56
On Jul 4, 10:46am, Donald D. Markstein wrote:
> CAPA-alpha (a venerable and fairly prominent American fan organization)
> also has breakfast meetings at San Diego -- usually on Saturday, I believe.
> I
> was a member of K-a (as it is usually abbreviated) from 1969 until the
> mid-to-late '70s; therefore, some of my longest-standing personal
> relationships in the comics community were established there. I would not
> willingly miss a CAPA-alpha breakfast.
>
> I realize this is only a minor consideration for most here -- aside from
> myself,
> the only person I know of who might have this conflict is Dwight Decker --
> and it's impossible to schedule an event at San Diego that won't conflict
> with
> SOMETHING. But I do ask that this be taken into account. It may not be a
> deciding factor in deciding on a time and place to meet, but I do hope at
> least a little weight will be given to it..
>
Thanks for taking me into consideration, Don. In case of schedule
conflict, the K-a breakfast would take precedence for me, so
Saturday morning is out, at least as far as Moi is concerned.
By the way, _has_ anything been organized for the ML? I got back
yesterday after a week in Chicago, and after wading through all
the piled-up e-mail, I'm none the wiser about whether there even
is going to be a Disney comics ML breakfast at San Diego. I ran
into both Torsten Adair and Heidi MacDonald at Chicago and neither
knew anything about it, though both were very interested if anything
does get organized.
There won't be any Egmont functions this year at SD, since Byron and
the Scandihoovian guys won't be coming over. So it's up to us to
occupy our idle hours any way we can...
But speaking of Chicago...I stopped at the Acclaim booth and got a
look at their digest-sized line of original Disney comics (featuring
recent feature animation movie adaptations and spin-offs). Nice-looking
stuff if not quite traditional comic books. Their approach, I gather,
is precisely _not_ to look like a traditional comic book, but more
like a "real" book. What this means in terms of their licensing
agreement with Disney, I don't know, since these don't seem to be
dated periodicals like Gladstone's comics, but undated books.
I'd be curious to know how the writers for Hercules stories were able
to write their stories months in advance of the movie's official release,
and yet be true to the characters (such as having Meg refer to the big
guy as "Wonder Boy"). Do they get copies of the script? Lots of stills?
Go to an advance screening of a rough cut?
--Dwight Decker
> CAPA-alpha (a venerable and fairly prominent American fan organization)
> also has breakfast meetings at San Diego -- usually on Saturday, I believe.
> I
> was a member of K-a (as it is usually abbreviated) from 1969 until the
> mid-to-late '70s; therefore, some of my longest-standing personal
> relationships in the comics community were established there. I would not
> willingly miss a CAPA-alpha breakfast.
>
> I realize this is only a minor consideration for most here -- aside from
> myself,
> the only person I know of who might have this conflict is Dwight Decker --
> and it's impossible to schedule an event at San Diego that won't conflict
> with
> SOMETHING. But I do ask that this be taken into account. It may not be a
> deciding factor in deciding on a time and place to meet, but I do hope at
> least a little weight will be given to it..
>
Thanks for taking me into consideration, Don. In case of schedule
conflict, the K-a breakfast would take precedence for me, so
Saturday morning is out, at least as far as Moi is concerned.
By the way, _has_ anything been organized for the ML? I got back
yesterday after a week in Chicago, and after wading through all
the piled-up e-mail, I'm none the wiser about whether there even
is going to be a Disney comics ML breakfast at San Diego. I ran
into both Torsten Adair and Heidi MacDonald at Chicago and neither
knew anything about it, though both were very interested if anything
does get organized.
There won't be any Egmont functions this year at SD, since Byron and
the Scandihoovian guys won't be coming over. So it's up to us to
occupy our idle hours any way we can...
But speaking of Chicago...I stopped at the Acclaim booth and got a
look at their digest-sized line of original Disney comics (featuring
recent feature animation movie adaptations and spin-offs). Nice-looking
stuff if not quite traditional comic books. Their approach, I gather,
is precisely _not_ to look like a traditional comic book, but more
like a "real" book. What this means in terms of their licensing
agreement with Disney, I don't know, since these don't seem to be
dated periodicals like Gladstone's comics, but undated books.
I'd be curious to know how the writers for Hercules stories were able
to write their stories months in advance of the movie's official release,
and yet be true to the characters (such as having Meg refer to the big
guy as "Wonder Boy"). Do they get copies of the script? Lots of stills?
Go to an advance screening of a rough cut?
--Dwight Decker
Bhc
Disney comics Digest V97 #141
Message 105 -
1997-07-11 at 02:36:36
A Thought (after a hard night trying to optimize my hard disk):
How many kids whooped to the flatulence of the warthog character in The
Lion King? How many kids continue to do so by watching The Lion King on
video again and again?
Many millions, I think it's safe to say.
How many readers do our comics reach? Some tens of thousands, at the
outside, with a drastically reduced proportion of them being kids, compared
to the The Lion King movie audience. Yet Disney nearly took our heads off
for daring to suggest (via Don Rosa) that the Beagle Boys might have
certain unhygienic traits. The Beagle Boys, for crying out loud!
There's the argument that the kids can dwell unwholesomely on something
questionable that's in print, unlike something questionable that goes by
quickly in a movie. Discounting the sheer balderdash of that reasoning
(especially in the light of the VCR and the imminent DVD player), that ol'
warthog has displayed his "talents" in Disney Adventures more than once.
There's the reasoning that the modern Disney films and cartoons (and
publications) are going after "today's" kids, who are accustomed to the
often earthy antics of Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead, while our
comics are for the more "traditional" audience. Well, that "traditional"
audience is weighted towards readers who are over twenty-one - clinically
speaking, adults. Is Disney saying that adults are unable to deal with the
idea that a Beagle Boy may skip taking a bath once in a while? And, in
turn, implying that "today's" kids - the only kids around, as far as I can
tell - can't deal with that either?
It seems to me certain parties need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Disney, for expecting Gladstone to be able to reach any kind of 1990's
audience by holding us to 1950's sensibilities, Gladstone, for adhering too
timidly to same, and, most critically, you, our readers, for giving Disney
the impression that you don't watch anything more unseemly on TV than
reruns of Leave It To Beaver.
(I know none of you actually gave Disney this impression, it's more
something you inherited. But, as is the lot of heirs, this inheritance is
something only you can do anything about.)
Augie:
Re USA and TAUSM: you got more strength than I got. Thanks for pitching in.
Per:
>Jonathan wrote about Barksian evidence that Mickey does exist in the
>Duck universe. You forgot about WDC 99 where Donald is asked what
>Mickey Mouse's social security number is. It's true that the script
>originally wasn't by Barks, though.
And it showed!
>I don't see why they did this. In all other respects (mock) Black
>English is still used, so it's not a general decision to use "proper
>English" as children might learn bad habits otherwise.
Some months ago, the Oakland school district tried to legitimize a type of
Black English (some would add the adjective "mock," I suppose) by declaring
it an actual language, Ebonics. The intent seemed to be to try and clear
the decks of a lot of garbage that was getting in the way of actually
teaching the kids who spoke that way, but, man, did it cause an unholy row
in the national media!
Christopher:
>My concern about TAU$M is this: How in the heck are you going to fit that
>title onto a cover? It'll practically be lying atop poor Scrooge's back, or
>at least threatening to knock his top hat off!
Since the emphasis was to be placed on the words UNCLE SCROOGE, it wasn't
so tough to design a workable title logo. Easier to pull off than UNCLE
SCROOGE & DONALD DUCK, frankly.
Dave:
>Then again, maybe he [Barks] just forgot what he had already written!
>After all,
>he's been at this far, far longer than any of us...
This oughta get checked out: does Barks actually hold the record for
Disney-creator longevity?
Gary
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"Ee!" - Tiffany Case (as two flaming shish kebabs unpleasantly
approach...)
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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How many kids whooped to the flatulence of the warthog character in The
Lion King? How many kids continue to do so by watching The Lion King on
video again and again?
Many millions, I think it's safe to say.
How many readers do our comics reach? Some tens of thousands, at the
outside, with a drastically reduced proportion of them being kids, compared
to the The Lion King movie audience. Yet Disney nearly took our heads off
for daring to suggest (via Don Rosa) that the Beagle Boys might have
certain unhygienic traits. The Beagle Boys, for crying out loud!
There's the argument that the kids can dwell unwholesomely on something
questionable that's in print, unlike something questionable that goes by
quickly in a movie. Discounting the sheer balderdash of that reasoning
(especially in the light of the VCR and the imminent DVD player), that ol'
warthog has displayed his "talents" in Disney Adventures more than once.
There's the reasoning that the modern Disney films and cartoons (and
publications) are going after "today's" kids, who are accustomed to the
often earthy antics of Ren and Stimpy and Beavis and Butthead, while our
comics are for the more "traditional" audience. Well, that "traditional"
audience is weighted towards readers who are over twenty-one - clinically
speaking, adults. Is Disney saying that adults are unable to deal with the
idea that a Beagle Boy may skip taking a bath once in a while? And, in
turn, implying that "today's" kids - the only kids around, as far as I can
tell - can't deal with that either?
It seems to me certain parties need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Disney, for expecting Gladstone to be able to reach any kind of 1990's
audience by holding us to 1950's sensibilities, Gladstone, for adhering too
timidly to same, and, most critically, you, our readers, for giving Disney
the impression that you don't watch anything more unseemly on TV than
reruns of Leave It To Beaver.
(I know none of you actually gave Disney this impression, it's more
something you inherited. But, as is the lot of heirs, this inheritance is
something only you can do anything about.)
Augie:
Re USA and TAUSM: you got more strength than I got. Thanks for pitching in.
Per:
>Jonathan wrote about Barksian evidence that Mickey does exist in the
>Duck universe. You forgot about WDC 99 where Donald is asked what
>Mickey Mouse's social security number is. It's true that the script
>originally wasn't by Barks, though.
And it showed!
>I don't see why they did this. In all other respects (mock) Black
>English is still used, so it's not a general decision to use "proper
>English" as children might learn bad habits otherwise.
Some months ago, the Oakland school district tried to legitimize a type of
Black English (some would add the adjective "mock," I suppose) by declaring
it an actual language, Ebonics. The intent seemed to be to try and clear
the decks of a lot of garbage that was getting in the way of actually
teaching the kids who spoke that way, but, man, did it cause an unholy row
in the national media!
Christopher:
>My concern about TAU$M is this: How in the heck are you going to fit that
>title onto a cover? It'll practically be lying atop poor Scrooge's back, or
>at least threatening to knock his top hat off!
Since the emphasis was to be placed on the words UNCLE SCROOGE, it wasn't
so tough to design a workable title logo. Easier to pull off than UNCLE
SCROOGE & DONALD DUCK, frankly.
Dave:
>Then again, maybe he [Barks] just forgot what he had already written!
>After all,
>he's been at this far, far longer than any of us...
This oughta get checked out: does Barks actually hold the record for
Disney-creator longevity?
Gary
****************************
"Ee!" - Tiffany Case (as two flaming shish kebabs unpleasantly
approach...)
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