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Georgia D.
hi all,

Clueless newbie rides again! I have a few quick
questions.
First, I was wondering if there's any been any mention
of any relatives of Flintheart Glomgold in the books?
I've always assumed he was an orphan and didn't know
any of his family, but I have quite a few gaps in my
collection so I could've missed something. Any
sisters, nephews, ect?

Second, I was wondering if the duck books (Donald Duck
and/or Uncle Scrooge) will ever be published in the
United States again? From what I last heard,
Gladstone was having problems renewing the license to
publish them (?).

And one last (silly) one.... I was rereading Rosa's
"Island at the Edge of Time" (US# 276) the other day
and noticed the plane Keoki flew looked (to me) a lot
like Baloo's plane (the "Seaduck") from TaleSpin,
which Rosa wrote a few episodes of. My imagination?

Sorry if these have been asked before, I did some
research prior to posting but couldn't find any
answers.
--Georgia D.

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Merlin Haas
Rich Morrissey wrote:

> (The only exception being their gloves, which I can hardly
> remember ever seeing them take off, even to sleep...though
> Mickey did so once when he went swimming in an early strip
> written by Walt Disney, no less.

You might also note that you seldom see Mickey or Goofy's feet
without shoes, either. One exception I remember is an early 60s
Paul Murry Dell story that involves a magical camera that takes
pictures of present day sites but shows them as they were in the
past. The story opens on a beach and both Mickey and Goofy are shown
shoeless (using white paint to highlight the toes on their black
feet. )

best -- Merlin Haas
BRIAN YOUNG
Back in the mid-seventies, I read that the complete history via the comics was available in a collected works called "Uncle Scrooge: His Life and Times" by Carl Barks. My later search for the set met with no knowledge of its existence. Is it available, and have there been similar sets for the other characters?
Candico86
I have a few questions that again I was hoping somebody knew (if they were
even ever answered). What happens to everyone after 1967 when Scrooge dies.
Do we ever know the future of any of the duck characters and who gets Mcduck
industries. Also, if Scrooge and Goldie loved each other so much, then why
did they leave each other? Also, how did Flimhear Glomgold and Scrooge meet
for the first time? Besides the story where we first meet Glomgold in the
second richest duck, do we ever hear of Flimheart again like in Scrooge's
past or in another story? Thank you very much to anykne who can answer these
questions.
Simo Malinen
Hi!
In the mailing list on Monday, 15 January 2001 Halvor Sandven
presented a list of the most-used artists in the danish and dutch
weeklies.

The idea of grading artists is good, (however, where to use it?)
but what if the artists were also classified by their art styles and
their stories? This could help to recognize all the strange names
of artists, I think.
-

In following list I have categorized some artists via their
context. There are some mentions about the publishers of their
stories, (D - Denmark, H - Holland, I - Italy) and I have also ranked
artists among my personal opinions, best ones on the top in each
case: (sorry for that)
___________________________________________
* ICONS
(everybody knows them and their styles, these ARE NOT in order)
- Carl Barks
- Floyd Gottfredson
- Al Taliaferro
- Manuel Gonzales
- Vicar
- Daan Jippes
- William Van Horn
- Marco Rota
- Don Rosa

* ITALIAN OLDTIMERS
- Romano Scarpa
- Giorgio Cavazzano
- Massimo De Vita
- Luciano Gatto
- Giorgio Bordini
- Giovan Battista Carpi
- Sergio Asteriti
- Luciano Capitanio
- Giuseppe Perego
- Giulio Chierchini
- Guido Scala
- Giancarlo Gatti
- Pier Lorenzo De Vita
- Franco Lostaffa
- Luciano Bottaro

EUROPEAN WEEKLY -STORIES
===========================================
DONALD DUCK -STORIES
===========================================
* STUDIO ARTISTS
(great artists but left in shadows)
- Vicar D early 70s -
- Bancells D pockets, late 90s -
- Santanach D mid 80s -
- Marsal D,I mid 80s -
- Manrique D mid 90s -
- Colomer D,H,I mid 80s -
- Alferez D mid 90s -
- Nunez D mid 80s -
- Gil-Bao D early 70s - early 90s
- Miguel D pockets, late 90s -
- Millet D mid 80s -
- Xavi D weeklies, pockets, mid 80s -
- Esteban D mid 80s -
- Cardona D weeklies, pockets, early 90s
- Fecchi D pockets, mid 90s -
- Miquel Pujol D early 90s
- Carrion D weeklies, pockets, mid 90s -
- Pasquale D pockets, mid 90s -
- Comicup Studio H,D,I late 80s -
- Mascar? D late 70s
- Santiago Barreira H mid 90s -
- Sabat? D early 90s
- Marga Querol Manzano H mid 80s -

* BRANCA -style artists
- Daniel Branca D early 80s -
- Scalabroni D early 80s -
- Torres D mid 80s -
- Anibal D mid 90s -
- Oscar Fernandez D early 80s
- Cerdan D early 80s
- Massaroli D mid 90s -
- Beatriz Bolster D late 70s - mid 80s

* BARKS LATE-1940s IMITATORS
(trying to use the style Barks used in the late 1940s,
I think their artwork is usually overrated)
- Comicup Studio H,D,I late 80s -
- Ben Verhagen H early 70s -
- Hans van Oudenaarden H late 80s -
- Robert van der Kroft H early 70s -
- Jan Gulbransson H mid 80s -
- Jaap Stavenuiter H late 80s -
- Freddy Milton H early 70s -
- Mau Heymans H late 80s -
- Bas Heymans H mid 90s -
- Mark de Jonge H mid 70s -
- Prodima H early 90s -
- Volker Reiche H late 70s

* ODDS, EARLY DANISH, etc, Does not fit to categories above.
- Flemming Andersen D weeklies, pockets, early 90s -
- Peter H?rdfeldt D early 90s -
- Kari Korhonen D mid 90s -
- Erik Nielsen D mid 70s
- Adrian S?rensen D late 60s - late 70s
- Niels Rydahl... D early 60s - mid 70s

===========================================
MICKEY MOUSE -STORIES
===========================================
* THE NEW MICKEY (TOTALLY MINNIE/ZOOM TRANSPORT)
- Ferioli D,F,I mid 80s -
- Miguel D weeklies, pockets, late 80s -
- Joaquin D weeklies, pockets, late 80s -
- Rodriguez D early 90s -
- Esteban D mid 80s -
- Tello-Team D late 80s
- Xavi D mid 90s -
- Carla D early 90s -
- David D mid 80s -
- Noel Van Horn D early 90s -
- Mario D weeklies, pockets, early 90s
- Munoz D early 90s
- Jos? Ramon Bernado D,H weeklies, pockets, early 90s -
- Escandell D early 90s

* PAUL MURRY -style artists
- Paul Murry W
- Tello D early 70s - late 80s
- Bancells D weeklies, pockets, late 70s -
- Santanach D mid 80s -
- Anders S?rensen D mid 70s
- F. Gallardo Pons D early 80s
- Jan D late 80s
- Fernando G?ell D mid 80s
- Jos? Ferrer D late 70s - mid 80s
- Mascar? D late 70s
- Bernardo Serrat D late 80s
===========================================
OTHER STORIES
===========================================
* FOREST -STORIES
- Ramos D mid 70s - early 90s
- Jan van Haasteren H mid 60s
- Gil-Bao D early 70s - early 90s
- David D mid 80s -
- Gin D early 70s
- Ed van Schuijlenburg H early 70s -
- Jan Steeman H late 60s
- Adrian S?rensen D late 60s - late 70s
- Vlado Magdic D mid 80s
- Valentino D,H mid 80s -
- Sanchis D mid 80s
---
By the way, the 11th artist on Halvor Sandven's list, Toi, is an old abbreviation of Antonio Bancells Pujadas (a.k.a Bancells) (ABc), nowadays familiar from Egmonts 3-layout Duck-stories in pocket books (Jumbobog(dk), Kalle Ankas pocket(se),...)

Sorry my poor english.

- Simo Malinen
malines at iobox.fi
Francesco Spreafico
From: "Simo Malinen" <malines at iobox.fi>

> * ICONS

> - Marco Rota

> * ITALIAN OLDTIMERS
> - Romano Scarpa

Something swapped here :-)

> - Giorgio Cavazzano
> - Massimo De Vita

Well, "oldtimers", at least for these two (and Rota, had he to be swapped)
is a bit excessive imho!
And, William Van Horn an icon? I read only one story of his (guess you
know which) and I felt that it was already too much for my taste :-)

--
Sprea
Francesco Spreafico
From: <Candico86 at aol.com>

> I have a few questions that again I was hoping somebody knew (if they
were
> even ever answered). What happens to everyone after 1967 when Scrooge
dies.
> Do we ever know the future of any of the duck characters and who gets
Mcduck
> industries.

Well, *officially* he didn't die at all, it's just a (most impressive)
drawing by Don Rosa.
Anyway there is an Italian story drawn by Luciano Gatto (definitely out of
any "real" continuity) in which Donald and nephews go to the future (oh
well to year 2001 if I remember correctly, but the story was from the
sixties :-) and in that future Scrooge had died and the future Donald has
taken his place (in everything, he even looks like Scrooge). Quite an
upsetting story.

>Also, if Scrooge and Goldie loved each other so much, then why
> did they leave each other?

Ah, that's life!

> Also, how did Flimhear Glomgold and Scrooge meet
> for the first time? Besides the story where we first meet Glomgold in
the
> second richest duck, do we ever hear of Flimheart again like in
Scrooge's
> past or in another story?

Sure, in Don Rosa's "Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck", chapter 6 there's
a young Glomgold that nevere reveals his name to Scrooge.

--
Sprea
Wouter
> I have a few questions that again I was hoping somebody knew (if they were
> even ever answered). What happens to everyone after 1967 when Scrooge
dies.

The fact that Scrooge died in 1967 is a theory of Don Rosa, it's not
cosidered to be the truth for all animators. I myself like his theorys.
There's a lot about it at www.duckburg.dk, I believe.

> Do we ever know the future of any of the duck characters and who gets
Mcduck industries.

According to some Barks and Rosa-storys, the nephews inherite Scrooge's
fortune.

Also, if Scrooge and Goldie loved each other so much, then why
> did they leave each other?

I believe Scrooge was to busy making his career. I think he once intended to
ask her to marry him, but it all went wrong when he lost his sled; he
thought it was a sign; read Rosa-strory: "Last Sled to Dawson".
He also wasn't really convinced of her love, while he really did love her,
read Rosa-story: "Hearts of the Yukon" and "Something very special".

Also, how did Flimhear Glomgold and Scrooge meet
> for the first time? Besides the story where we first meet Glomgold in the
> second richest duck, do we ever hear of Flimheart again like in Scrooge's
> past or in another story?

They met before this story, according to Don Rosa, but Scrooge never knew it
was the same guy he met later on, because he didn't heard his name. This was
in "The Terror of the Transvaal" from "Live and Times of $crooge".
These are the answers, all according to Don Rosa, but I lik to believe his
theorys, they all come perfectly together with the story's of Carl Barks,
and he's the one who created Scrooge, so he is always right about him, I
believe.
Martin Olsen
|From: "BRIAN YOUNG" <byoung at iinet.net.au>
|Subject: availability
|Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:51:12 +0800
|
|Back in the mid-seventies, I read that the complete history via the =
|comics was available in a collected works called "Uncle Scrooge: His =
|Life and Times" by Carl Barks. My later search for the set met with no =
|knowledge of its existence. Is it available, and have there been similar =
|sets for the other characters?
|

The book was published in 1981 by Celestial Arts, Millbrae, California. It
has ISBN # 0-89087-290-2 (Hardbound deluxe edition including a signed and
numbered lithograph "Wanderers of Wonderlands" by Barks). I think the book
was also published as a trade paperback, but I'm not quite sure.
The book contains reprints of 11 of Carl Barks' Scrooge stories plus a new
story titled "Go Slowly Sands of Time". The latter is not a comic but a text
story with illustrations (circa one illustration per page). In addition the
book contains articles about Barks and even an introduc(k)tion by Barks
himself.

I have no idea of the availability of this book. I checked www.amazon.com
with no results.

This is not a *complete* Scrooge history. For this (in the Carl Barks sense)
you will need The Carl Barks Library or the actual comic books.

Martin
Candico86
I have recently found a way to purchase the book, "The Life and Times of
Scrooge Mcduck" but I wasn't sure if it is worth it. Since I once asked a
question about what Scrooge did after he mined for gold in the Klondike and
before he met his nephews, I wanted to know if that information was covered
in the book. If anyone owns a copy of it now, can they please tell me if
that information is in the book. Thank you very much.
Francesco Spreafico
From: <Candico86 at aol.com>

> I have recently found a way to purchase the book, "The Life and Times of
> Scrooge Mcduck" but I wasn't sure if it is worth it. Since I once asked
a
> question about what Scrooge did after he mined for gold in the Klondike
and
> before he met his nephews, I wanted to know if that information was
covered
> in the book. If anyone owns a copy of it now, can they please tell me
if
> that information is in the book. Thank you very much.

It definitely is.

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Sprea
Alipio D'Oliveira Coelho
Message: 1

> From: Candico86 at aol.com
> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:55:25 EST
> Subject: Scrooge
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
> I have a few questions that again I was hoping somebody knew (if they were
> even ever answered). What happens to everyone after 1967 when Scrooge dies.

Who said that? U$crooge is alive. You can see this in many stories from Italy, Denmark, and so for...

>
> Message: 2
> From: "BRIAN YOUNG" <byoung at iinet.net.au>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: availability
> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 02:51:12 +0800
>
> Back in the mid-seventies, I read that the complete history via the =
> comics was available in a collected works called "Uncle Scrooge: His =
> Life and Times" by Carl Barks. My later search for the set met with no =
> knowledge of its existence. Is it available, and have there been similar =
> sets for the other characters?

Life and Times of U.$crooge was written by Don Rosa. And ends at the begginig of all Scrooge's adventures writen by Uncle Carl...
All the colection of U$ stories, writen by Barks you will find on The Carl Barks Library.
Thierry Fernand
Hi everyone

Recently I had to move my various websites to a different host. The new addresses
are as follow:
http://mailotron.forez.com/livia/ Online Disney comics
http://mailotron.forez.com/alfredsirven/ Fethry pages
http://mailotron.forez.com/coa/barks/news.html Carl Barks' death page
http://mailotron.forez.com/taliaferro/ Al Taliaferro French page

I'll ask the persons who linked to some of the sites above to change the URLs.
Thanks in advance and sorry for the inconvenience.

Favio
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Francesco Spreafico
I was surfing the net, looking material for a future (very far in the
future) page on my Scarpa site about places and situations of his stories,
and, just for the hell of it, I looked for "sardine rain" which gave me
this result:

http://www.strangemag.com/bookcat.forteantimes.html

It's just a site that sells magazines about "strage phenomena" and things
like that, but I didn't know that there actually was (or that someone
believed so) *such* phenomenon as a sardine rain!
Now, that issue costs 40 dollars and I no way am going to buy it, but I
wondered if any of you had already heard about this!

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Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo (Scarpa)
http://heinlein.cjb.net (RAH)
Francesco Spreafico
From: "Francesco Spreafico" <frspreaf at tin.it>

> this result:

Little update:

http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/9291/fishrain.htm

And this does astonish me since it's about sardine fish in the
neighborhood of Tegucigalpa on May!!!
It's in Spanish, I've had copernic traslate it in English (seems to work
better than babelfish), here it goes:

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THE RAIN OF FISH
By Perfect H. Bobadilla (Honduran)
Article appeared in the Magazine Literary Mail of Honduras, Year I, no. 1,
Tegucigalpa, D.C., Honduras, C.A.

" the heavy shower of fish, as they call the native ones to him, is
characteristic: one begins generally to four or five of late, with a black
cloud, followed of strong electrical unloadings and terrible hurricanes,
that appear in the hill of Bush Water "

Ands one of the most peculiar phenomena than is observed in Honduras. It
takes place in the neighborhoods of the city of Yoro, to a kilometer of
distance, towards the Suroeste of the population, in the called plain "
the Marsh ", that limits the West with the cerrito of " the Name Badly ".
It is a this volcano extinguished, that made eruption at remote time,
according to testify the many iron sulfide stones that in the expressed
plain are dispersed.

What more Llama the attention in this " rain of fish ", is the regularity
whereupon verifies; annually, for a single time, in the months of May or
June, when beginning the rainy station in this colorful region.

The " heavy shower of fish ", as they call the native ones to him, is
characteristic: one begins generally to four or five of late, with a black
cloud, followed from strong electrical unloadings and terrible hurricanes,
that appear in the hill of " Bush Water ", by the Northeast of the
Atlantic side, that is, of where come tradewinds of this zone. Finished
the storm, the sardines, like of three to four inches in length, they are
jumping, alive still, on the green savannah of " the Marsh ", dispersing,
sometimes, in winch of a lagunato, that exists Badly in the Northeast base
of the cerrito of " the Name ", water tank that is dried totally in the
summer.

We, when young, have had opportunity, more of once, to go in company of
other chicuelos of the district, once passed the storm, to gather the
flavorful pececillos, returning contentments to our homes to enjoy the
delights of a succulent supper.

Several theories have been formulated to explain scientifically, this
peculiar one like interesting phenomenon; but the one that seems guessed
right more she is the one than it attributes it to a marine whirlwind
coming from the Atlantic, by the constant direction from where the cloud
comes, to go the heavy shower accompanied by frequent and formidable
electrical unloadings, and to invariably fall in the plain of " the Marsh
", in where, due to the iron mineral stock, it perhaps has, a pole that it
attracts the whirlwind, in which the mysterious pececillos come.

------------------------

If this turns out to be true, I'll certainly include it in my site :-))

Any Honduran in list??

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Sprea
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