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From: Fabio Blanco <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
To: DCML <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Date: 6. tammikuuta 2001 23:33
Subject: RE: Kari Korhonen

>I recently found her work in some Brazilian Disney Magazines. In this
>magazines aren't data about the authors, so when I liked specially an
story,
>I did want use our database... That was how I did discover that I loved the
>work of Kari Korhonen...

Kari Korhonen is the first (and only) finnish drawer who has done
internationally published Donald Duck comics. I don't know if he (yes
that's right, Kari is a man) has a website or not, but if I find some more
information about him I'll let you know.

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Luca:

> Obviously, SCARPA knows a lot about SHOES... (this sort of
> joke should be
> understandable only to the Italian-speaking memebers, I suppose)...

Well, I don't speak Italian, but I once put an Italian article about Scarpa
through an Altavista translator, to make English out of it.
Since that time, I know I am a "ventilator of Shoe".

--Harry.
(Yes: a fan of Scarpa)

MARCO

>Carl Barks drew Peg-leg Pete (the villain in Mickey Mouse stories) quite a
>few times.
>
>But did Barks ever officially "declare" him to be Peg-leg-Pete?

What does "officially" means ?

Geoffrey Blum says, in an article titled "The Classic Barks",
appearing in the CBLiC volume "DD Adventures #3"...

- The fact that Black Pete, thinly disguised as Foxy Pete,
appears in "Frozen Gold" (OS 62) shows that Barks was thinking
in terms of Mickey when he wrote this Alaskan saga.
In later years he would acknowledge that "Pete was Mickey's
villain", to be used only "in certain standard ways"... -

(Quoted captions are Barks')

It is also to be noted that the "standard" American name for
Mickey's villain is "Black Pete", rather than "Peg-Leg Pete"
as we are more used to in Italy... in fact...

>Does anyone on this list own a copy of "UNCLE $CROOGE" #28
>(12/1959-2/1960), so he can check the original script and tell me what the
>villain is called?
>
>(I reckon he's called "Pierre Le Fraud". But Luca says that Gyro addresses
>him as "Peg-leg Pete"...)

You're both right. Pete is here "in disguise", so to speak...
The judge of the contest calls him Pierre De Fraud, indeed,
but when Gyro sees him for the first time, he goes...

"One of my rivals is that thug, BLACK PETE!"

Cheers

Eta Beta

>Well, apart personal opinions about artists' works, in this mail I only
>wish to communicate Guido Scala's death, some days ago. I assume last
>wednesday. It's a very sad period for all his fans and friends in the
>world.
>Luca Boschi

So it is for me. My condolences to his family & friends. Every time a great
artist pass away, I feel like being a bit more *orphan*... :-(

On Marco's Spanish scrap, I must say I haven't recognized the story, except
that the 1st panel is clearly retouched... I haven't passed even the least
difficulty level. Tsk, tsk ;-)

Santiago.

Hi, Marco, and all!

>> Gyro *does* call him Black Pete in that story.
>>
>
> Since we're on this subject...
> Exactly WHEN did Peg-leg Pete become "Black Pete" ?

Good question. Maybe Alberto, and / or Leonardo, owners of "Mickey Mouse"
magazines before WDC&S can tell us more precise answers.

I think immediately AFTER the "Riddle of the Red Hat". For some reasons,
story men try NOT to call Pete in any way, to avoid the "peg-leg" name (this
is one of the original reasons of the long "unnaming Pete" by Barks?).

Well, just now, I checked the first Mickey "original" serial with Pete in
WDC&S: the Bill Wright version of "Mistery *AT* Hidden River", first part,
published in WDC&S with cover date of Jan. 1950 (not exactly a mint issue,
but more precious for me, because it was sent me as a present by Jack
Bradbury, around twenty years ago).

In the story, the fake name of Pete is still "Pierre de la Pooch" (very
similar to the fake one in the Barks' GG story), but Mickey, when recognizes
his identity, screams: "BLACK PETE!"

So, at the time, the changement was just done. And, as I told you before, no
reference to the "old" peg-leg anymore exsist.

Someone can tell us an earlier date?

For example, how is Pete called in the B. Wright's story "MM on Spook's
Island", published in "Four Color" # 170, Nov. 1947?

(Black Pete, I assume)...

Luca

> 6. Re: Kari Korhonen (Tuukka Heimola)
>From: "Tuukka Heimola" <tuukka.heimola at pp.inet.fi>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: Re: Kari Korhonen
>Kari Korhonen is the first (and only) finnish drawer who has done
>internationally published Donald Duck comics. I don't know if he (yes
>that's right, Kari is a man) has a website or not, but if I find some more
>information about him I'll let you know.

As I couple of weeks ago announced here, I have made a page about Finnish
Disney-artists ("Sisu, sauna and Ducks"), Kari Korhonen is there too - of
course.
URL is: http://members.nbci.com/timoro/pamaus/finnish.htm

And OBS, Per: You can use texts in there for DCML-creators pages.

Timo Ronkainen
Finnish Donaldists

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From: "Henri Kunne" <HJC.Kunne at net.HCC.nl>

> No; and I'm in doubt if anyone outside of Italia has ever seen them.
(Inducks
> tells me the story appeared in Italian editions only.) So, if you're in
the

Which version of the inducks did you consult? ;-)

Here what I got, cutting out italian editions:

fr/JMM 2b MM ... et le mystère de Tap Yocca VI [pubdate:1993-10-27]
fr/MP 10k MM Mickey contre le mystérieux Tap Yocca VI
[pubdate:1980-10]
nl/91-30f MM De kinderlijke koning van Bombarije
[pubdate:1991-07-26]
us/MM 256b MM T:The Mystery of Tapiocus VI [pubdate:1990-04]

--
Sprea

Hi, Henri, and all!

>>Incidentally, try to control the Romano Scarpa's "Tapioco VI" story, in the
>>MM comic book, where Pete was totally naked in a panel. Do you remember that
>>famous sequence of panels?
>
> No; and I'm in doubt if anyone outside of Italia has ever seen them. (Inducks
> tells me the story appeared in Italian editions only.)

Well, it seems impossible to me that INDUCKS doesn't list the american
version. The story was reprinted in "Mickey Mouse" # 256, April 1990, and
the
panel is the second on the 55th page. From that panel on, Mick and Pete are
naked in a sequence three pages long and Pete shows his peg-leg all the
time, under the the shoe he desn't wear anymore.
It's a WONDERFUL story, if you never read it, it deserves your attention!
>
>>Obviously, SCARPA knows a lot about SHOES... (this sort of joke should be
>>understandable only to the Italian-speaking memebers, I suppose).
>
> A dictionary explained this one to me. Very nice.

So, it seem that now all know the meaning of "Scarpa"! :-)

Indeed, I checked again to answer Marco's question properly.

And I see that Dave Gerstein is right. The whole production of Western,
starting with Hannah-Barks' "DD Finds Pirate's Gold", has BLACK PETE instead
of PEG-LEG PET. So, we can say that the "old" name of the villain survives
only in the Gottfredson's (and colleagues) production, poppin' up sometimes.
So, all the critics and columnists who went on calling the character
"Peg-leg" didn't do right.
I checked also the old Pete's movies. Well, in Barks' (not produced)
"Nortwest Mounted"
(1936), he was only Pete, and got no peg-leg anymore.

Starting from the beginning, in "Steamboat Willie" (1928) he has no name
(and I
even wrote, and Disney USA approved my version, that the character was not
even Pete, but a "formative version" of Terrible Tom, announced in an Ub
Iwerks strip and later changed into Peg-Leg Pete).
In "The Cactus Kid" (1930), the villain is Peg Leg Pedro, in "The Klondike
Kid" (1932) is Peg Leg Pierre, in "The Mail Pilot" (1933) is only Pete...
But in "The Dognapper" ('35) and in "Mickey's Service Station" ('35) is Peg
Leg Pete again, as in the comic strips!
At least, in "Movin' Day" he still has not the peg-leg anymore and
he's called only Pete (in the movie we even can see his very signature). And
from here on,
the name (or nickname) "Peg Leg" or "Peg-leg" doesn' survive in the movies!
His following film is with DD ("The Riveter", 1940). And it really seems
that in no movies there is the name "Black Pete".

Cuntent?

Luca