DON:
> As for Donald, my timeline says he was born in 1920, so he would certainly
> have been the perfect age for WWII -- and with his furious temper and
> Everyman All-American patriotism, I'm certain he would have volunteered for
> combat on Dec. 8, 1941.
Doesn't Barks' "The Victory Garden" suggest that Donald stayed at home
during WWII? I'm not quite sure what a victory garden is, but it sounds like
something related to war time.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Kriton Kyrimis
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Message 226 -
2001-01-30 at 14:01:55
Eta Beta
Jap ambush! (Stefan)
Message 227 -
2001-01-30 at 14:34:37
Hi Stefan,
>"It's a Jap ambush! -- I see you, you little slant-eyed nips! I'll skewer
>you on my bayonet like mutton chops! -- Jump in the ocean and swim back to
>Japan!"
>
>When the story was published in Sweden in 1959, this belligerent dialog
>actually was translated more or less literally. I was involved in the
>reprint in 1988 and decided it was time to tone it down ever so slightly...
>
>What happened in other countries?
A fine, interesting research you got me into... :-)
I have seven publications of this story, starting from the original WDC
#56,
and modifying the text through the different ages, a few countries and
degrees of political correctness or, simply, current taste...
In the 1949 italian translation, it's *gangsters* rather than Japs, but
the
rest is translated literally, and it is a bit odd, figuring gangsters
using
mine fields, hand-grenades and bayonets... :-)
While I cannot really be sure, it seems that a Dutch translation from
the mid-70s (Beste Verhalen #5) is similar, maintaining a nearly literal
reference to weapons and stuff, but not mentioning Japs either.
The "parallel" Italian album (PDO #5) maintains the 1949 translation,
except that *bandits* is used in place of *gangsters*.
The CBL (in color) text is not modified, while the pearl in this crop is
probably the italian translation from 1991 (ZP #21), where the dialogue
is completely rewritten, with mentions of *firecrackers* at a country
fair and an attack of robbers trying to steal Donna Carmela's (Hogan's)
delicacies...
To end with, the WDC #627 American edition maintains most of the original
text but the "Jap", "you little slant-eyed nips" and "back to Japan" bits,
the first is omitted, the others become "you little runts" and "back home"
Now, my opinions about maintaining the originality of an author's text
in both translations and reprints are well known to you, I'll only stress
again the bit about the readers being able to place things in perspective
by themselves, yes, kids too, and of the above renditions I'll only
comment
the last two...
The WDC #627 adaptation is, at least, fair enough... there's no subject at
all to Donald's fury, just a generic "you" that some readers might be able
to identify anyway (given the story's date), while it wouldn't "harm"
anybody unaware there's ever been such thing as a World War, and it
doesn't
"sidetrack" them into a situation entirely different, as in the ridiculous
Italian translation from ZP #21... I hope you will agree with me on this
single bit... :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
>"It's a Jap ambush! -- I see you, you little slant-eyed nips! I'll skewer
>you on my bayonet like mutton chops! -- Jump in the ocean and swim back to
>Japan!"
>
>When the story was published in Sweden in 1959, this belligerent dialog
>actually was translated more or less literally. I was involved in the
>reprint in 1988 and decided it was time to tone it down ever so slightly...
>
>What happened in other countries?
A fine, interesting research you got me into... :-)
I have seven publications of this story, starting from the original WDC
#56,
and modifying the text through the different ages, a few countries and
degrees of political correctness or, simply, current taste...
In the 1949 italian translation, it's *gangsters* rather than Japs, but
the
rest is translated literally, and it is a bit odd, figuring gangsters
using
mine fields, hand-grenades and bayonets... :-)
While I cannot really be sure, it seems that a Dutch translation from
the mid-70s (Beste Verhalen #5) is similar, maintaining a nearly literal
reference to weapons and stuff, but not mentioning Japs either.
The "parallel" Italian album (PDO #5) maintains the 1949 translation,
except that *bandits* is used in place of *gangsters*.
The CBL (in color) text is not modified, while the pearl in this crop is
probably the italian translation from 1991 (ZP #21), where the dialogue
is completely rewritten, with mentions of *firecrackers* at a country
fair and an attack of robbers trying to steal Donna Carmela's (Hogan's)
delicacies...
To end with, the WDC #627 American edition maintains most of the original
text but the "Jap", "you little slant-eyed nips" and "back to Japan" bits,
the first is omitted, the others become "you little runts" and "back home"
Now, my opinions about maintaining the originality of an author's text
in both translations and reprints are well known to you, I'll only stress
again the bit about the readers being able to place things in perspective
by themselves, yes, kids too, and of the above renditions I'll only
comment
the last two...
The WDC #627 adaptation is, at least, fair enough... there's no subject at
all to Donald's fury, just a generic "you" that some readers might be able
to identify anyway (given the story's date), while it wouldn't "harm"
anybody unaware there's ever been such thing as a World War, and it
doesn't
"sidetrack" them into a situation entirely different, as in the ridiculous
Italian translation from ZP #21... I hope you will agree with me on this
single bit... :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
Kenneth Glendinning
Daniel: new site
Message 228 -
2001-01-30 at 14:35:56
Very strange that harry could take something so personally.
As for spell checking well I can not say all of his messages are all
correct.
But as we have said before this place is not here to pick at little things
about people.
As for the strange story about people learning to do what I did in school is
real strange, as I have never heard of it the Internet was not such a big
thing back when I was in school.
As for my web site I have been working on it heavily but still have not
finished yet I will tell every one when I do.
As for all this arguing I hope every body is finished, as it is so annoying.
Kenneth
Daniël:
> > This mailing list is about Disney comics. Not about the basics of
> > designing a web page.
>This mailing list also isn't about attacking other people's sites,
>neither about spelling correcting.
The spelling correcting is one of my annoying habits, which I can't suppress
sometimes. I think a website (and an e-mail message) should at least have
*some* level of readability. In Kenneth's first mails, it was way below what
I consider the minimum for readability.
(I ddon't mind typos or spelling mistakes if they keep the message readable!
As the previous sentence shows. 8-)
About attacking other people's sites: I really felt insulted. So I attacked
the thing that attacked me.
There have been some schools where they had lectures about the internet. The
teacher taught the children to make a web site and get as many visitors as
possible.
One trick to get many visitors is first to complain on a mailing list "why
don't people get answers to their mails", and then post a link to your site
on that mailing list "go visit this, it's interesting".
When Kenneth did just that, and also admitted that he is not going to use an
HTML editor or won't start learning HTML, I could only conclude that he was
doing what I described above.
Fortunately, I noticed that Kenneth's recent mails are on-topic and
improving. So his website may grow to an interesting site too...
>Best wishes,
Are you sure?
--Harry.
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As for spell checking well I can not say all of his messages are all
correct.
But as we have said before this place is not here to pick at little things
about people.
As for the strange story about people learning to do what I did in school is
real strange, as I have never heard of it the Internet was not such a big
thing back when I was in school.
As for my web site I have been working on it heavily but still have not
finished yet I will tell every one when I do.
As for all this arguing I hope every body is finished, as it is so annoying.
Kenneth
Daniël:
> > This mailing list is about Disney comics. Not about the basics of
> > designing a web page.
>This mailing list also isn't about attacking other people's sites,
>neither about spelling correcting.
The spelling correcting is one of my annoying habits, which I can't suppress
sometimes. I think a website (and an e-mail message) should at least have
*some* level of readability. In Kenneth's first mails, it was way below what
I consider the minimum for readability.
(I ddon't mind typos or spelling mistakes if they keep the message readable!
As the previous sentence shows. 8-)
About attacking other people's sites: I really felt insulted. So I attacked
the thing that attacked me.
There have been some schools where they had lectures about the internet. The
teacher taught the children to make a web site and get as many visitors as
possible.
One trick to get many visitors is first to complain on a mailing list "why
don't people get answers to their mails", and then post a link to your site
on that mailing list "go visit this, it's interesting".
When Kenneth did just that, and also admitted that he is not going to use an
HTML editor or won't start learning HTML, I could only conclude that he was
doing what I described above.
Fortunately, I noticed that Kenneth's recent mails are on-topic and
improving. So his website may grow to an interesting site too...
>Best wishes,
Are you sure?
--Harry.
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Kenneth
Message 229 -
2001-01-30 at 14:43:02
> From: Kenneth Glendinning [mailto:neth80 at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:36 PM
> As for all this arguing I hope every body is finished, as it
> is so annoying.
My body is finished, anyway. 8-)
--Harry.
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 1:36 PM
> As for all this arguing I hope every body is finished, as it
> is so annoying.
My body is finished, anyway. 8-)
--Harry.
Kenneth Glendinning
Phantom blot
Message 230 -
2001-01-30 at 15:06:07
Hello I have a 1975 Australian copy of Walt Disney's comics that has
the story Mickey mouse outwits the phantom blot Serial-part6.
But the story is clearly not drawn by Floyd gottfredson.
As the artwork is no way near as good.
Dose any one know about this?
Or have any idea who drew this comic, as my copy dose not say the artists
name.
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the story Mickey mouse outwits the phantom blot Serial-part6.
But the story is clearly not drawn by Floyd gottfredson.
As the artwork is no way near as good.
Dose any one know about this?
Or have any idea who drew this comic, as my copy dose not say the artists
name.
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Phantom blot
Message 231 -
2001-01-30 at 15:15:36
> From: Kenneth Glendinning [mailto:neth80 at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 2:06 PM
> I have a 1975 Australian copy of Walt Disney's comics that has
> the story Mickey mouse outwits the phantom blot Serial-part6.
> But the story is clearly not drawn by Floyd gottfredson.
> As the artwork is no way near as good.
> Dose any one know about this?
I think your copy has artwork by Paul Murry. If the comic contains the
original story, some of the pages were redrawn by Murry for the comic book
version. This means that a lot of pages are still original Gottfredson.
Maybe you can spot a difference in art style?
Another option is that your comic was not the original story, but one of the
sequel stories that Murry drew in the late 1960s. In that case, it's all
Murry, and quite different from the original Gottfredson style.
--Harry.
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 2:06 PM
> I have a 1975 Australian copy of Walt Disney's comics that has
> the story Mickey mouse outwits the phantom blot Serial-part6.
> But the story is clearly not drawn by Floyd gottfredson.
> As the artwork is no way near as good.
> Dose any one know about this?
I think your copy has artwork by Paul Murry. If the comic contains the
original story, some of the pages were redrawn by Murry for the comic book
version. This means that a lot of pages are still original Gottfredson.
Maybe you can spot a difference in art style?
Another option is that your comic was not the original story, but one of the
sequel stories that Murry drew in the late 1960s. In that case, it's all
Murry, and quite different from the original Gottfredson style.
--Harry.
Botto Armando
Phantom blot
Message 232 -
2001-01-30 at 15:29:51
Kenneth, Harry:
> > I have a 1975 Australian copy of Walt Disney's comics that has
> > the story Mickey mouse outwits the phantom blot Serial-part6.
> > But the story is clearly not drawn by Floyd gottfredson.
> > As the artwork is no way near as good. Dose any one know about this?
> I think your copy has artwork by Paul Murry. [...]
> Another option is that your comic was not the original story, but one of
the
> sequel stories that Murry drew in the late 1960s.
The Inducks suggests also a third option: the remake of the story, drawn by
Dick Moores, which appeared in WDC&S 101 - 106 (1949). It had 48 pages in
total, and the sixth (and last) part was 7 pages long.
Hope it helps,
Armando
> > I have a 1975 Australian copy of Walt Disney's comics that has
> > the story Mickey mouse outwits the phantom blot Serial-part6.
> > But the story is clearly not drawn by Floyd gottfredson.
> > As the artwork is no way near as good. Dose any one know about this?
> I think your copy has artwork by Paul Murry. [...]
> Another option is that your comic was not the original story, but one of
the
> sequel stories that Murry drew in the late 1960s.
The Inducks suggests also a third option: the remake of the story, drawn by
Dick Moores, which appeared in WDC&S 101 - 106 (1949). It had 48 pages in
total, and the sixth (and last) part was 7 pages long.
Hope it helps,
Armando
Fluks, H.W.
Copenhagen (quite long and hardly on-topic..)
Message 233 -
2001-01-30 at 16:04:30
Last weekend we had a meeting of Disney comics fans in Copenhagen. I'll give
a brief report of who were there and what we did.
First of all, this meeting has mainly been made possible by David Gerstein.
Thanks again, David, for giving me a wonderful time! Also: thanks to all the
others for showing up! 8-)
Last Wednesday, 24 January, I travelled by car from Groningen (in the
Netherlands) to Germany. I met Brix Lichtenberg in Hamburg, and we visited
two comic shops there. After that, we had dinner in a wonderful restaurant
in a greenhouse in Bad Oldesloe. Then I got to see Brix's collection of
comics books. I stayed the night in a nearby hotel.
Some photographs of this day can be seen on:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/p01-01.html
On Thursday I drove to Copenhagen. I took the ferry (Puttgarden). That took
only 45 minutes, which was not enough to finish the book "You are here".
Brix gave me the book to read, but wanted it back later. This had two
advantages: 1. Brix made sure I would *read* the book, and 2. I would be
sure that Brix would go to Copenhagen too, or else he wouldn't get his book
back.
The book "You are here" is indeed wonderful to read. It's non-Disney, but
I'm sure Brix can tell more about it to anyone interested.
I arrived in Copenhagen late in the afternoon. This gave me some time to
meet David's colleagues at Egmont. Some of them I met before, and some of
them for the first time. Unfortunately, Byron Erickson was on holiday - I'd
love to have had a chat with him.
In the evening David and I had dinner with Martin Olsen, in a Chinese
restaurant. Martin couldn't be with us on Saturday, so I was glad to be able
to meet him now!
When we were discussing a Fethry Duck story involving Feng Shui, we couldn't
avoid the restaurant owner to give us a little demonstration. I think I lost
some energy there...
Friday was my "day off" to see the touristic sights of Copenhagen. I walked
for 5 hours, passing by all the interesting (and some less interesting)
buildings. Fortunately, Egmont's office is in the middle of the centre, so I
could take a lunch break there.
In the evening, Brix joined us again, as well as Kjell Cron? (from Sweden)
and Kristian H?jsteen (a real Dane). We had a nice dinner (chili con carne)
at David's appartment. We were quite an international group: 5 people, 5
nationalities.
A photograph of Kjell, taken that evening, can be seen on:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/p01-02.html
(For the rest of my stay I used an old-fashioned, non-digital camera. So it
takes a bit longer before other photos are on the web.)
At night, Kjell, Brix, and I stayed at David's for a good sleep. That didn't
quite work out, though - which will explain the sleepiness the next day. Too
much interesting comics, cartoons, and people!
Saturday was the big event: the meeting with a dozen of people from Denmark
and Sweden. Unfortunately, some people couldn't come, but we ended up with
10: David, me, Brix, Kjell, S?ren Krarup Olesen (from Jutland), and 5 more
Swedes: Olof Siverbo, Joakim Gunnarsson, Germund Silvegren, Jakob Hallin,
and Ted Johansson. Some of them I knew by e-mail, some of them were totally
new for me.
After a fast-food lunch at the train station, we went for a visit to two
comic shops: Faraos Cigaren (or something like that) and Fantask. Especially
the former (the cigar) had many interesting things. Since I can't read
Danish well enough, I mainly talked with the others, while they bought a lot
of stuff. One thing I noticed was that everyone has different ways of
collecting things. Some people collect *everything*, while they don't know
if they will ever read it. Others collect something just to be able to index
it. 8-)
After the 2 shops we went for a drink and a chat. It became a sort of "round
table conference", with all 10 of us sitting in a cosy corner of a pub. Both
interesting (Disney comics) and boring (ftp sites 8-) subjects were
discussed.
Then we were heading for a look at David's office. David had prepared two
boxes of comic material that were his doubles. It was a nice view to see
people get what they wanted from those boxes. Of course, I already picked
what *I* wanted the day before! 8-)
Evening dinner was without Ted, but Kristian joined us again. The 10 of us
had a wonderful dinner in an Indian restaurant. With lots of conversation,
for instance about the people that were not there. 8-)
After dinner, everyone was very sleepy (see also my remark above). Half of
the group went to a nearby pub for a drink, and after that, Kjell, Brix, and
I went to David's house again. We looked at some videos from David's
collection. Among them were the Br'er Rabbit sequences from "Song of the
South". Beautiful cartoons that I had never seen before. After that, we
almost literally fell asleep.
On Sunday, we went up at 12 or so. During our stay we continously looked at
and discussed Disney comics. Brix had brought some interesting stuff from
Germany. I brought my Dutch doubles, and David had an interesting collection
at home. We hardly had the time to sleep or eat...
Sunday afternoon, Brix and Kjell joined David for one more visit to Egmont,
while I headed back home. I planned to have a good rest in a hotel, but at
the time that I was near Hamburg, I decided to go straight home in stead.
23:00 on Sunday evening I was home, 950 km from Copenhagen, and at the end
of a well-spent trip.
Already looking forward to a next time!
--Harry.
a brief report of who were there and what we did.
First of all, this meeting has mainly been made possible by David Gerstein.
Thanks again, David, for giving me a wonderful time! Also: thanks to all the
others for showing up! 8-)
Last Wednesday, 24 January, I travelled by car from Groningen (in the
Netherlands) to Germany. I met Brix Lichtenberg in Hamburg, and we visited
two comic shops there. After that, we had dinner in a wonderful restaurant
in a greenhouse in Bad Oldesloe. Then I got to see Brix's collection of
comics books. I stayed the night in a nearby hotel.
Some photographs of this day can be seen on:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/p01-01.html
On Thursday I drove to Copenhagen. I took the ferry (Puttgarden). That took
only 45 minutes, which was not enough to finish the book "You are here".
Brix gave me the book to read, but wanted it back later. This had two
advantages: 1. Brix made sure I would *read* the book, and 2. I would be
sure that Brix would go to Copenhagen too, or else he wouldn't get his book
back.
The book "You are here" is indeed wonderful to read. It's non-Disney, but
I'm sure Brix can tell more about it to anyone interested.
I arrived in Copenhagen late in the afternoon. This gave me some time to
meet David's colleagues at Egmont. Some of them I met before, and some of
them for the first time. Unfortunately, Byron Erickson was on holiday - I'd
love to have had a chat with him.
In the evening David and I had dinner with Martin Olsen, in a Chinese
restaurant. Martin couldn't be with us on Saturday, so I was glad to be able
to meet him now!
When we were discussing a Fethry Duck story involving Feng Shui, we couldn't
avoid the restaurant owner to give us a little demonstration. I think I lost
some energy there...
Friday was my "day off" to see the touristic sights of Copenhagen. I walked
for 5 hours, passing by all the interesting (and some less interesting)
buildings. Fortunately, Egmont's office is in the middle of the centre, so I
could take a lunch break there.
In the evening, Brix joined us again, as well as Kjell Cron? (from Sweden)
and Kristian H?jsteen (a real Dane). We had a nice dinner (chili con carne)
at David's appartment. We were quite an international group: 5 people, 5
nationalities.
A photograph of Kjell, taken that evening, can be seen on:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/p01-02.html
(For the rest of my stay I used an old-fashioned, non-digital camera. So it
takes a bit longer before other photos are on the web.)
At night, Kjell, Brix, and I stayed at David's for a good sleep. That didn't
quite work out, though - which will explain the sleepiness the next day. Too
much interesting comics, cartoons, and people!
Saturday was the big event: the meeting with a dozen of people from Denmark
and Sweden. Unfortunately, some people couldn't come, but we ended up with
10: David, me, Brix, Kjell, S?ren Krarup Olesen (from Jutland), and 5 more
Swedes: Olof Siverbo, Joakim Gunnarsson, Germund Silvegren, Jakob Hallin,
and Ted Johansson. Some of them I knew by e-mail, some of them were totally
new for me.
After a fast-food lunch at the train station, we went for a visit to two
comic shops: Faraos Cigaren (or something like that) and Fantask. Especially
the former (the cigar) had many interesting things. Since I can't read
Danish well enough, I mainly talked with the others, while they bought a lot
of stuff. One thing I noticed was that everyone has different ways of
collecting things. Some people collect *everything*, while they don't know
if they will ever read it. Others collect something just to be able to index
it. 8-)
After the 2 shops we went for a drink and a chat. It became a sort of "round
table conference", with all 10 of us sitting in a cosy corner of a pub. Both
interesting (Disney comics) and boring (ftp sites 8-) subjects were
discussed.
Then we were heading for a look at David's office. David had prepared two
boxes of comic material that were his doubles. It was a nice view to see
people get what they wanted from those boxes. Of course, I already picked
what *I* wanted the day before! 8-)
Evening dinner was without Ted, but Kristian joined us again. The 10 of us
had a wonderful dinner in an Indian restaurant. With lots of conversation,
for instance about the people that were not there. 8-)
After dinner, everyone was very sleepy (see also my remark above). Half of
the group went to a nearby pub for a drink, and after that, Kjell, Brix, and
I went to David's house again. We looked at some videos from David's
collection. Among them were the Br'er Rabbit sequences from "Song of the
South". Beautiful cartoons that I had never seen before. After that, we
almost literally fell asleep.
On Sunday, we went up at 12 or so. During our stay we continously looked at
and discussed Disney comics. Brix had brought some interesting stuff from
Germany. I brought my Dutch doubles, and David had an interesting collection
at home. We hardly had the time to sleep or eat...
Sunday afternoon, Brix and Kjell joined David for one more visit to Egmont,
while I headed back home. I planned to have a good rest in a hotel, but at
the time that I was near Hamburg, I decided to go straight home in stead.
23:00 on Sunday evening I was home, 950 km from Copenhagen, and at the end
of a well-spent trip.
Already looking forward to a next time!
--Harry.
Kenneth Glendinning
Phantom blot
Message 234 -
2001-01-30 at 17:07:55
I have checked the artwork and it dose not look any thing like Paul Murrys
work and the story is a direct copy of the original Floyd gottfredson one.
Dick Moores must be the answer as it is odd ball art that is not well known.
Kenneth
Kenneth, Harry:
> > I have a 1975 Australian copy of Walt Disney's comics that has
> > the story Mickey mouse outwits the phantom blot Serial-part6.
> > But the story is clearly not drawn by Floyd gottfredson.
> > As the artwork is no way near as good. Dose any one know about this?
>I think your copy has artwork by Paul Murry. [...]
>Another option is that your comic was not the original story, but one of
the
>sequel stories that Murry drew in the late 1960s.
The Inducks suggests also a third option: the remake of the story, drawn by
Dick Moores, which appeared in WDC&S 101 - 106 (1949). It had 48 pages in
total, and the sixth (and last) part was 7 pages long.
Hope it helps,
Armando
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work and the story is a direct copy of the original Floyd gottfredson one.
Dick Moores must be the answer as it is odd ball art that is not well known.
Kenneth
Kenneth, Harry:
> > I have a 1975 Australian copy of Walt Disney's comics that has
> > the story Mickey mouse outwits the phantom blot Serial-part6.
> > But the story is clearly not drawn by Floyd gottfredson.
> > As the artwork is no way near as good. Dose any one know about this?
>I think your copy has artwork by Paul Murry. [...]
>Another option is that your comic was not the original story, but one of
the
>sequel stories that Murry drew in the late 1960s.
The Inducks suggests also a third option: the remake of the story, drawn by
Dick Moores, which appeared in WDC&S 101 - 106 (1949). It had 48 pages in
total, and the sixth (and last) part was 7 pages long.
Hope it helps,
Armando
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Kenneth Glendinning
Ducks at WW2
Message 235 -
2001-01-30 at 18:01:13
I found this picture a while back on the internet it is from OCT 1942
Comics and Stories it shows donald catching a nazi torpedo.
http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/ken2/nazi.html
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Comics and Stories it shows donald catching a nazi torpedo.
http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/ken2/nazi.html
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Phantom blot
Message 236 -
2001-01-30 at 19:20:22
In a message dated Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:11:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Kenneth Glendinning" <neth80 at hotmail.com> writes:
<< I have checked the artwork and it dose not look any thing like Paul Murrys
work and the story is a direct copy of the original Floyd gottfredson one.
Dick Moores must be the answer as it is odd ball art that is not well known.>>
Not sure what you mean by this comment. Moores is certainly a well known artist, indeed one of the greats of comic strips (for his Gasoline Alley c1960-c1986). Even some of his Disney work ( basically the ones he wrote as well as drew) are extremely good.
Now his donald duck does look a bit odd (more like hultgren than barks).
Steven Rowe
<< I have checked the artwork and it dose not look any thing like Paul Murrys
work and the story is a direct copy of the original Floyd gottfredson one.
Dick Moores must be the answer as it is odd ball art that is not well known.>>
Not sure what you mean by this comment. Moores is certainly a well known artist, indeed one of the greats of comic strips (for his Gasoline Alley c1960-c1986). Even some of his Disney work ( basically the ones he wrote as well as drew) are extremely good.
Now his donald duck does look a bit odd (more like hultgren than barks).
Steven Rowe
Bhc
DCML digest, Vol 1 #389 - 10 msgs
Message 237 -
2001-01-30 at 19:43:46
Sigve Jacob:
>Hi, I'm just a young norwegian student living in Rouen in France who
>is wondering
>how to buy Don's great "the life and times of scrooge mcduck" in the original
>written language...
In addition to checking the Gladstone web site at
http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone
you can also phone us at 1-520-776-1300 or fax us at 1-520-445-7536
to check on the availability of this series, and place an order.
--
Gary
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>Hi, I'm just a young norwegian student living in Rouen in France who
>is wondering
>how to buy Don's great "the life and times of scrooge mcduck" in the original
>written language...
In addition to checking the Gladstone web site at
http://www.brucehamilton.com/gladstone
you can also phone us at 1-520-776-1300 or fax us at 1-520-445-7536
to check on the availability of this series, and place an order.
--
Gary
****************************
"Good night, and may God Bless...good night." - Red Skelton
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Jyri Lehtinen
Kyrimis@cti.gr
Message 238 -
2001-01-30 at 21:34:43
> ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:22:01 +0200 (EET)
> From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: Re: WC
>
> JYRI:
>
> > I checked out the bins plans and I instantly
> noticed
> > that there was a WC installed.
>
> I guess it's a case of Disney comics going where not
> even Star Trek has
> gone before!!!
>
in DS9 episode where Sisko and Jake go cruising with
an old type solarsail ship they have a funny chat
about their zero-G toilet!
> > I myself have not noticed ****the**** ducks having
some of
> the
> > bodyly functions of humans.
>
> Um, when was it the last time you went to the zoo?
> :-)
>
> (Actually, from what I remember from high school
> zoology, ducks, being
> birds, and humans, being mammals, do have an
> important difference in
> this kind of bodily function. Look it up!)
>
I thought by using the word "THE" ducks people would
understand that I am talking about disney ducks. Or
have have you seen ducks with hats and kanes in zoos?
(the humane ones)
> BTW, isn't it "toilet" or "bathroom" in American
> English, rather than WC?
>
But as you may realize that bathroom starts with the
word "bath". I've often seen are beloved ducks taking
a bath.
> Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
> (WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
> -----
> "Just *think* line a physicist!"
> -----
>
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> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 16:22:01 +0200 (EET)
> From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: Re: WC
>
> JYRI:
>
> > I checked out the bins plans and I instantly
> noticed
> > that there was a WC installed.
>
> I guess it's a case of Disney comics going where not
> even Star Trek has
> gone before!!!
>
in DS9 episode where Sisko and Jake go cruising with
an old type solarsail ship they have a funny chat
about their zero-G toilet!
> > I myself have not noticed ****the**** ducks having
some of
> the
> > bodyly functions of humans.
>
> Um, when was it the last time you went to the zoo?
> :-)
>
> (Actually, from what I remember from high school
> zoology, ducks, being
> birds, and humans, being mammals, do have an
> important difference in
> this kind of bodily function. Look it up!)
>
I thought by using the word "THE" ducks people would
understand that I am talking about disney ducks. Or
have have you seen ducks with hats and kanes in zoos?
(the humane ones)
> BTW, isn't it "toilet" or "bathroom" in American
> English, rather than WC?
>
But as you may realize that bathroom starts with the
word "bath". I've often seen are beloved ducks taking
a bath.
> Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
> (WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
> -----
> "Just *think* line a physicist!"
> -----
>
Jyri
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WDC 56
Message 239 -
2001-01-31 at 01:14:18
Does anyone know how (if at all) Donald's speech was altered in the
recent USA printings of the WDC 56 story? I assume Disney would force
Gladstone to change it, but I'm not sure.........
Rodney Bowcock
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recent USA printings of the WDC 56 story? I assume Disney would force
Gladstone to change it, but I'm not sure.........
Rodney Bowcock
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Carey Furlong
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Message 240 -
2001-01-31 at 04:11:02
> WWII is never mentioned in Don Rosa or Carl Barks stories.
In addition to the examples others have mentioned, there is also, of course, a clear reference to World War II in Barks FC 178, Christmas on Bear Mountain, where the Scottie imposter says on the second to last page, "... with some chemical spray I stole from a spy during the war."
The "war" can only be World War II.
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, California
In addition to the examples others have mentioned, there is also, of course, a clear reference to World War II in Barks FC 178, Christmas on Bear Mountain, where the Scottie imposter says on the second to last page, "... with some chemical spray I stole from a spy during the war."
The "war" can only be World War II.
Carey Furlong, Huntington Beach, California