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"The Mickey Mouse book, 50th birthday" is a 127 pages illustrated text book.
Drawings by Floyd Gottdreson. If anyone knows who wrote the text, it would be interesting
to hear about it (I was told this person may be the one who wrote the rhyming Bucky Bug tales).
The "Mickey Mouse Sunday Pages" were drawn by Manuel Gonzales from the late 40s
to the 70s.
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Favio

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I wrote:

>
>Here's an easy quiz for you.
>

Then maybe it wasn't so easy?

>Can you recognize the following story?
>
>LEVEL NORMAL, just recognize it from
>http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DCML/pato1.jpg
>
>LEVEL EASY, use also
>http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DCML/pato2.jpg
>

(The URL for the second picture should now be correct...)

>LEVEL DIFFICULT,
>can you tell all the differences from the original version of the story?
(Language apart, of course...)
>
>LEVEL EXPERT (I couldn't do this)
>was the "big" difference in pato1.jpg traced from some other story? Which
one?
>

If nobody solves it, I'll give the solution (the part of it that I know) in
my next message...

Marco

Jukka Murtosaari lived and worked in Burbank for about a year, back around
1991 or 1992. He's from Helsinki, Finland, and he did several covers for me
for Donald Duck Adventures and Uncle Scrooge when I was the editor on those
titles when Disney was publishing the comics. I don't know if those covers
were picked up or used by other publishers, so I don't know if he qualifies
for "Internationally published Disney comics artist," but he and Kari
Korhonen are both excellent artists. Jukka also worked on the Muuman comics
in Finland. I believe he's living in Finland again.

Bob Foster

----- Original Message -----
From: <BFOSTERLA at aol.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:07 PM
Subject: Finnish Donald Duck artists

> Jukka Murtosaari lived and worked in Burbank for about a year, back around
> 1991 or 1992. He's from Helsinki, Finland, and he did several covers for
me
> for Donald Duck Adventures and Uncle Scrooge when I was the editor on
those
> titles when Disney was publishing the comics. I don't know if those covers
> were picked up or used by other publishers, so I don't know if he
qualifies
> for "Internationally published Disney comics artist," but he and Kari
> Korhonen are both excellent artists. Jukka also worked on the Muuman
comics
> in Finland. I believe he's living in Finland again.

According to the Inducks, one of his covers has been published elsewhere
than in the US:

KJU 020 1 c JMi JMu US T:This is it! Return to Xanadu - the
| sequel you didn't expect!
| [pubdate:1991-12]
| fi: RS1991B12
| us: US 261

Strange that the Finns didn't use the Rosa cover for this story...

At 12:06 11-1-01, Francesco Spreafico wrote:

>From: "Henri Kunne" <HJC.Kunne at net.HCC.nl>
>
> > No; and I'm in doubt if anyone outside of Italia has ever seen them.
> (Inducks
> > tells me the story appeared in Italian editions only.)
>
>Which version of the inducks did you consult? ;-)

Well, a "version" not giving any translated titles automatically, however.
Until know, I thought it would do so. This is a shortcoming!

>Here what I got, cutting out italian editions:
>
>fr/JMM 2b MM ... et le myst?re de Tap Yocca VI [pubdate:1993-10-27]
>fr/MP 10k MM Mickey contre le myst?rieux Tap Yocca VI
>[pubdate:1980-10]
>nl/91-30f MM De kinderlijke koning van Bombarije
>[pubdate:1991-07-26]
>us/MM 256b MM T:The Mystery of Tapiocus VI [pubdate:1990-04]

With these codes, I'll look further.
A remark: I am surprised the story has been published in the United
States. We all know the Disney rules.... You'd almost think the censor has
been sleeping. After all, the old times allowing Goofy to be completely nude
below the waist - albeit with only one "tail" visible - are long ago!
Greetings, Henri

Hello I have not been in touch to what is happening with disney comics for a
while can any one tell me when will the new publisher start printing?
The last I heard which was a long time ago now is that Gemstone publishing
what makeing a deal with disney to start printing disney comics again.
Can any one give me a update to what has happend since then?
I guess I will have to be happy with old comics till they start again.

Kenneth
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Fernando wrote:
> I like, also, to send, too, my condolences abouth Guido
> Scala's death...

On a related note: Dutch artist Carol Voges died last Tuesday. This was in
my newspaper yesterday. Carol is remembered mostly by his non-Disney things.
But in a smaller circle he is also famous for drawing the ugliest Duck
characters of the 1970s. In a recent interview he said "he never objected"
to making Disney stories. I think his work showed that attitude...

Usually his Disney work was not credited. An exception was made for some
game pages. One of them was credited to "Carol & Carl".

Anyway, Voges did much better work for Pa Pinkelman and Sjors & Sjimmie, and
as an illustrator for children's books.

--Harry.

At 2001-01-11 17:17 +0100, you wrote:
> >Can you recognize the following story?
> >
> >LEVEL NORMAL, just recognize it from
> >http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DCML/pato1.jpg

Yes, it's my favourite Barks short story! The one where Donald has a little
plane and can produce rain on demand.

> >LEVEL EASY, use also
> >http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DCML/pato2.jpg

Haven't checked this yet.

> >LEVEL DIFFICULT,
> >can you tell all the differences from the original version of the story?
>(Language apart, of course...)

The most obvious one is that the 1st panel is not by Barks in the version
in Spanish.

Another point is that the editor thought s/he was "correcting" the story
when s/he changed the "2 cm of rain" (which most likely were 2 inches in
Barks's story) to "2 cubic cm" which is totally wrong and nonsensical. (I
won't go into the obvious maths --- it's in a sense the reverse argument as
that concerning the volume of the money bin ;-))

I have not checked back on the original -- maybe I'd spot more differences
if I did.

> >LEVEL EXPERT (I couldn't do this)
> >was the "big" difference in pato1.jpg traced from some other story? Which
>one?

Can't do this either.

A related question would be to figure out why it was changed. Maybe looking
at the Barks story would help.

Let me check the easy url now, to see if there are any clues there... no,
nothing, it's just a page from later on.

Let me check the original now...

The shapes of the panels are different -- so different that this could even
explain why the 1st panel was completely redone.

Ok, sure enough it was 2 inches. Note that the 2.5 were originally 2 1/4...
There are other similar changes in the numerical values such as "ninety
cents an acre-inch" becoming "twenty pesetas per hectare and cubic
centimetre"; apart from the impossible dimensions, I haven't computed
whether the prices are comparable ;-)

In the Barks story, the lower price was not just for S-shaped but also for
square and round fields.

In the 2nd panel of the Spanish version, both bags contain "natural rain",
whereas in Barks's they are "rain seed" and "hail mix" respectively.

The (IMHO good) joke of "x is always an unknown" is original, ie absent in
Barks.

"Bargain week" is incorrectly translated to "weekly contract"

One could go on with nitpickings on the translation, but it's stuff that
you could do with any translation of any story, so I don't think it's worth
continuing.

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/