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Kds
I'll be brief for all you interested in positive discussions on Ducks.

I wrote a commentary on the website Suite 101 on how the entertainment
industry might change after this past week's events.

Here's the link
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/11/79756

You comments and passing along my thoughts would be appreciated.

Robert

Now - back to the positive and wholesome entertainment topics like Duckburg
(or is it Duckburgh?)

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Kriton Kyrimis
BJORN:

> <http://dailynews.philly.com/content/daily_news/2001/09/13/local/DEVI13C.htm
>
> Things like this always gives me some chivers, though my reason tends to
> tell me its all a coincidense or a hoax...

If you look at clouds, you can see all sotrs of images, and this is just
another example of fitting an image that we have in mind to a vague,
swirly pattern. (Does anyone really think of the devil as having *three*
horns and a potato nose?)

Interestingly enough, Isaac Asimov had written a short story about somew
people freeze-framing a high resolution film of a nuclear explosion and
getting similar results.

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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"I myself am in search of universal peace, an end to strife and unlimited
custard for all, but I have a feeling I'm looking in the wrong place."
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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
Fellow Quackeroos:

Here's what appeared in the Greek stands in the past week:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1834, September 7, 2001
a) "Alla ricerca della pietra zodiacale: l' eredita di Zodiacus", (Part 12),
from "Topolino" #1791, 1990 (30 pages). Script: Bruno Sarda; Art: Massimo De
Vita
b) Morty & Ferdie in "Il fratello da colezzione", from "Topolino" #2254,
1999 (26 pages). Script: Augusto Macchetto; Art: Andrea Ferraris
c) Fethry Duck in "Le disdette del volo", from "Topolino" #2224, 1998 (5
pages). Script: Augusto Macchetto; Art: Roberta Migheli
d) H, D & L in " The Old Records" (7 pages). Story code and creators
unknown.

2) MINNI #60, September 2001
a) Daisy Duck in "The Dreamy Cook", from "Minni" #76 (30 pages). Script:
Carlo Panaro; Art: Marco Mazzarello
b) Minnie Mouse in "An Explosive Adventure", from "Minni" #54 (33 pages).
Script: Francois Corteggiani; Art: Marco Mazzarello

3) MEGALO MIKY #409, September 2001
a) "Oliver & Co", comic-book adaptation of the Disney cartoon classic,
D-89041 (46 pages). Art: Xavier Vives Matheou (sp?)
b) The Junior Woodchucks in "In the Lion's Footsteps", WDC&S #334 (10
pages). Script: Unknown; Art: Tony Strobl
c) Mickey Mouse in "The Moving Island", S-85113 (10 pages). Creators unknown
d) Uncle Scrooge in "The Bad Dream", S-76129 (6 pages). Script: George
Weiss; Art: Tony Strobl

4) DONALD #46, September 2001
a) Donald Duck in "Escape from Routine", story code unknown, 30 pages.
Script: Sergio Tulipano; Art: Salvatore Deiana
b) Donald Duck in "Operation Bloated Arms", from "Paperino" #127 (29 pages).
Script: Rudy Salvagnini; Art: Enrico Faccini
c) Donald Duck in "La missione buonumore", from "Paperino" #227, 1999 (30
pages). Script: Sergio Tulipano; Art: Danilo Barozzi

5) ALMANAKO #127, September 2001
a) Indiana Goofy in "Il tesoro dei cavalieri d' oriente", from "Topolino"
#2323, 2000 (37 pages). Script: Bruno Sarda; Art: Roberto Vian
b) Paperinik in "The Upside-Down World", from "Paperinik" #65 (21 pages).
Script: Tito Faraci; Art: Giuseppe Ferrario

'Till next time,

Archontis

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Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Associate Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki, GREECE
tel.: +30 31 398 228
Eta Beta
Hello everybody!

A question for Bob Foster, first...

I'm referring to a Gottfredson/Walsh story, "Mickey Mouse and the
'Lectro Box" (YM 058), which saw in the original publication, in
the very last panel, the three scientists left in their underpants
by the effect of the Box...

The scene was censored for the first comic book reprint, WDC 51-55,
with trousers superimposed (or drawn over?) the original, and that's,
unfortunately, the version most of us read, since it was used for
most (if not all) later reprints in various countries.

Now, in a relatively recent reprint, WDC 568-572, the final panel
was partially restored, and I understand that was your own work...

I'm curious about how it was done... did you find an original,
uncensored image or did you, or some other artist, actually
redraw it ? And why only one scientist instead of all three ?

Then, a bit of S/F off-topic... :-)

Kathy says...

>The first Sci-Fi book I read that got me started was "Mindswap", can never
>remember the author, don't think he wrote anything else.

Would said mindswap be a novel and fashionable form of vacation ?
With the hero finding himself unable to get back to his own body
afterwards, thus starting a long quest, and series of adventures,
in various alien bodies on various alien planets ?

If that's the case, the author's Robert Sheckley, and he did write
something else, quite a lot of it, in fact... my advice is go to
the nearest bookshop and find out what... ;-) He's one of my
all-time favorites, indeed...

Cheers

Eta Beta
Fluks, H.W.
Olaf:

> the Notre Duck Cathedral
> is presented to be located in Duckburg. I don't remember
> quite sure what the
> story said - I always thought the story was ment to be
> located in France,
> but when I concider the facts from the story it may must have been in
> Duckburg?

Yes, it must have been Duckburg.

> Anyway, with a cathedral of this size Duckburg M*U*S*T have a lot of
> Christians - maybe it back in the Medieval was a popular
> pilgrim target, in
> the same way as Nidarosdomen in Trondheim?

If Duckburg is American (and most indications are in that direction), then
it's impossible that the Notre-Duck is an original medieval gothic church. I
always considered it a NEO-gothic church, from the 1890s (or early 1900s).
Like a big neogothic church I saw in Washington. Americans are good in
copying old styles.

Anyway, as someone noticed before, the Notre-Duck church has NO religious
marks whatsoever. It's just a big empty building with an organ and some
statues. It almost looks like a very rich American built it, just for fun.

About organs: I think Catholic churches don't have organs, and that they
were introduced in protestant churches after 1570. Is that true? (Just
curious.)

--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Back to ducks and mice...

Simo:

> > BTW, Peter Coll? did the inking directly on Heymans' pencils.
> You could also say that every inker tends to add something
> of their own to the pages they ink.

Sure. Though I couldn't tell one style from another, on the pages you
posted. Especially since:
> also May Haymans' own style has changed during the years.

> Somehow recently I have started to realize how good
> artist Mau Heymans actually is.

Sure! 8-)

--Harry.
Francois Willot
Harry, Olaf:

> > the Notre Duck Cathedral
> > is presented to be located in Duckburg. I don't
> remember
> > quite sure what the
> > story said - I always thought the story was ment
> to be
> > located in France,
> > but when I concider the facts from the story it
> may must have been in
> > Duckburg?

I guess though that this is a reference to Notre-Dame
in Paris.

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Hello...

First of all, the Notre Duck (written like this) Cathedral *IS* in Duckburg.
At least another story, made in Brazil, shows ita again, with Magica too.

> If Duckburg is American (and most indications are in that direction), then
> it's impossible that the Notre-Duck is an original medieval gothic church.

Right!

> a NEO-gothic church, from the 1890s (or early 1900s).
> Like a big neogothic church I saw in Washington. Americans are good in
> copying old styles

In New York there are some churches resembling the Sleeping Beauty castle,
too.
>
> Anyway, as someone noticed before, the Notre-Duck church has NO religious
> marks whatsoever. It's just a big empty building with an organ and some
> statues. It almost looks like a very rich American built it, just for fun.

And this also in an interesting point of view. I think that the cathedral
has PAGAN symbols. Baut it's Barks view of religion.
>
> About organs: I think Catholic churches don't have organs, and that they
> were introduced in protestant churches after 1570. Is that true?

No. Here in my town, Pistoia, quite every Catholic church (mostly from the
Middle Age or from Renaissance) has an organ, included one with on of the
most ancient organs in the world (in Saint Spirit Square).Some years ago the
Emperor of Japan himself come to visit it since he read about it in a book.

Bye!

L.
Fluks, H.W.
Anders wrote, about Don Rosa's story "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" (about
the Panama canal):

> the story is not yet out in the scandinavian weeklies but
> I'm still hoping, though not wanting to hold my breath while waiting.
> As told, it will come out in Germany next year. It wouldn't
> surprise me if
> Finland, Holland, Italy and Greece eventually publish[] it too.

This story will be published in Holland in December, in Donald Duck Extra
#13.

--Harry.
Dan Shane
FRANCOIS WROTE:

> I guess though that this is a reference to Notre-Dame
> in Paris.
>

AND I REPLY:

There is also a Notre Dame in the US, in South Bend, Indiana. So there is
an American counterpart.
Kriton Kyrimis
HARRY:

> If Duckburg is American (and most indications are in that direction), then
> it's impossible that the Notre-Duck is an original medieval gothic church.

If Duckburg *is* American, it is not inconceivable that some rich
Duckburgian had the cathedral transported to Duckburg, stone by stone,
from its original site in Europe. (Now *that's* an idea for a story!)

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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"I myself am in search of universal peace, an end to strife and unlimited
custard for all, but I have a feeling I'm looking in the wrong place."
-----
Cebarat
Harry Fluks wrote:

> About organs: I think Catholic churches don't have organs, and that they
> were introduced in protestant churches after 1570. Is that true? (Just
> curious.)

Many -- if not most -- Catholic churches DO have organs, although they are
not used at all Masses. (Sometimes music is provided by a pianist, choir, or
folk/rock ensemble.) The older and more traditional churches generally have
an organ in the "choir loft" at the back of the church.

Chris Barat
BFOSTERLA
In a message dated 9/17/01 3:03:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se writes:

Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #67 Message 6 from Eta Beta:

<< A question for Bob Foster, first...

<<I'm referring to a Gottfredson/Walsh story, "Mickey Mouse and the 'Lectro
Box"
<<(YM 058), which saw in the original publication, in the very last panel,
the three <<scientists left in their underpants by the effect of the Box... >>

I'm always amazed at my own ignorance when it comes to stuff like this. And
readers of this list are amazingly knowledgeable when it comes to historical
facts about obscure details. What we're talking about here is something that
I was involved in almost ten years ago, so I remember even less than I didn't
know to begin with.

I don't recall changing anything on that story. I usually got the material
from a variety of sources. Sometimes I'd find things in the files at the
studio, sometimes I'd get things from the folks at Gladstone, sometimes I'd
find things I had in my personal collection. On top of the fact that I was
never a big Mouse fan (Gasp!), details like that would surely go across my
desk unnoticed. In matters of finding material that fans had requested, I
sometimes relied on others to provide it, and figured they knew more than I
did. If it had been edited or altered, I probably didn't know enough about
the original version to know the difference.

But keep in mind, quite often that was the only version available, so I had
to decide to either run the altered version or to not run any version at all.
I thought an altered version would be better than nothing.

The best experts I worked with were the Gladstone people who really knew this
stuff. And, being rascally, rebellious types (my kind of people!), sometimes
they would fix things back to the way they used to be or should have been. So
maybe the fixes started there. I don't think I did it at the studio.

Censorship that was imposed on us internally, from an unnamed staff member at
the studio, often irritated the hell out of us. They were so overprotective
of the Corporate image and politically correct depiction of everything, great
stories suffered or were destroyed as a result.

Occasional oversights occurred when we would accidentally run a censored
story, then apologize to the censor goddess that we had made a mistake.
Sometimes it's best to plead ignorance after you've committed the offense.
Anything for the fans!

But now I'm curious. I'll go to my storage locker in the next few days and
dig out my copies of those issues and take a look. Maybe I'll remember
something, and get back to you.

Bob Foster
SRoweCanoe
Just a note that i have the full page Sunday newspaper strip of Mickey Mouse
for april 3, 1932 scanned.
can anybody remind me of when the strip started?

Direct answers fine

steven rowe
Fluks, H.W.
Chris (and others) wrote:

> Many -- if not most -- Catholic churches DO have organs

Of course. I drew the wrong conclusion from 3 facts:
- organs were introduced in churches in or after the 16th century (at least
where I live);
- the reformation was in the 16th century;
- organ music is an important part of the protestant (Dutch reformed)
service

This shows how much attention to organs I paid when being at the inside of a
catholic church! 8-)
(I *did* see a lot, mainly for the architecture and art.)

--Harry.
(Stichting Oude Groninger Kerken - word lid! 8-)
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