And why is the last page missing on the scan of the Frensch version?
http://www.geocities.com/maurepas0002/index2.html
Censored by Don?
Michael
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Topic: 200109
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Michael Schartau
The Panama Canal »
Message 211 -
2001-09-19 at 16:44:09
Daniel Vasset
DCML digest, Vol 1 #673 - 17 msgs
Message 212 -
2001-09-19 at 17:59:44
I hope Dan
> and I can someday get some copies of that poster for
> ourselves...
If Egmont will publish the poster here in Norway,
maybe i could send you one (and one for Dan.) ?
Daniel,Norway
=====
Hilsen/Yours
Daniel Vasset Haugsb?
Member of DCML Mailinglist,
and DUCKhunt Mailinglist.
______________________________________________________
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Organiser sammenkomsten p? http://no.invites.yahoo.com
> and I can someday get some copies of that poster for
> ourselves...
If Egmont will publish the poster here in Norway,
maybe i could send you one (and one for Dan.) ?
Daniel,Norway
=====
Hilsen/Yours
Daniel Vasset Haugsb?
Member of DCML Mailinglist,
and DUCKhunt Mailinglist.
______________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Organiser sammenkomsten p? http://no.invites.yahoo.com
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
674: Kriton
Message 213 -
2001-09-19 at 18:03:31
KRITON
You'll actually find an unofficially translated version with Don's
inteneded ending from some page I contribute to.
eg. the story lies here: http://www.duckburg.dk/culebra/
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
You'll actually find an unofficially translated version with Don's
inteneded ending from some page I contribute to.
eg. the story lies here: http://www.duckburg.dk/culebra/
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Doukakis, Mark (NBC)
NOTHING TO DO WITH BELOVED DUCKS
Message 214 -
2001-09-19 at 21:21:57
> KEVIN HOWARD WROTE: ...How many citizens
> are aware of the ongoing American bombing of Iraq? And if the word
> "cowardly" is to be used, it might be more aptly applied to those who kill
> from beyond the range of retaliation, high in the sky, than to those
> willing
> to die themselves in order to kill others. In the matter of courage (a
> morally neutral virtue): whatever may be said of the perpetrators of
> Tuesday's slaughter, they were not cowards.
> ...........................
>
> Kevin, I'm so glad you are so better educated on America, its tactics and
> its militarily "cowardly" policies. Next time I won't tune in to CNN, I
> won't read the newspaper-they'll just brain-wash me. If it's ok with you I
> prefer to e-mail you and request the appropriate perspective on how things
> are.
>
> I hope there will not come a time when such a "brave" individual decides
> it's time to take the life of YOUR child or wife or brother, in the name
> of his honorable cause. Obviously (and thankfully) you have lost no one in
> the recent tragedy.
>
> -Mark Doukakis
>
>
>
Because e-mail can be altered electronically,
the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.
> are aware of the ongoing American bombing of Iraq? And if the word
> "cowardly" is to be used, it might be more aptly applied to those who kill
> from beyond the range of retaliation, high in the sky, than to those
> willing
> to die themselves in order to kill others. In the matter of courage (a
> morally neutral virtue): whatever may be said of the perpetrators of
> Tuesday's slaughter, they were not cowards.
> ...........................
>
> Kevin, I'm so glad you are so better educated on America, its tactics and
> its militarily "cowardly" policies. Next time I won't tune in to CNN, I
> won't read the newspaper-they'll just brain-wash me. If it's ok with you I
> prefer to e-mail you and request the appropriate perspective on how things
> are.
>
> I hope there will not come a time when such a "brave" individual decides
> it's time to take the life of YOUR child or wife or brother, in the name
> of his honorable cause. Obviously (and thankfully) you have lost no one in
> the recent tragedy.
>
> -Mark Doukakis
>
>
>
Because e-mail can be altered electronically,
the integrity of this communication cannot be guaranteed.
Goofy313g
Mouseton in D96001 (to Don Rosa)
Message 215 -
2001-09-19 at 22:39:41
Hi!
TO DON:
In your story "D96001", I think the original title contains the words
"gravity" and "matter", but I don't have the time to check, at page 12 panel
1, we can see on a board in Duckburg's airport names of cities which the
flights are going to. IN the french version, those are Tombouctou, Puerto
Povro, Costa Trouya, Louisville, and Mickeyville, the french for
...Mouseton... Did you really do it, Unca'Keno, or is it just a mistake by
the translators???
Gilles MAURICE
TO DON:
In your story "D96001", I think the original title contains the words
"gravity" and "matter", but I don't have the time to check, at page 12 panel
1, we can see on a board in Duckburg's airport names of cities which the
flights are going to. IN the french version, those are Tombouctou, Puerto
Povro, Costa Trouya, Louisville, and Mickeyville, the french for
...Mouseton... Did you really do it, Unca'Keno, or is it just a mistake by
the translators???
Gilles MAURICE
Don Rosa
DCML digest #675
Message 216 -
2001-09-20 at 16:13:15
From: Goofy313g at aol.com (Gilles Maurice)
>>>>>>>>TO DON:
In your story "D96001", I think the original title contains the words
"gravity" and "matter", but I don't have the time to check,
My title was "A Matter of Some Gravity". By the way, that's a clever title
(ahem) in English, but it's untranslatable. "Gravity" means both the force
that holds us to the earth's mass, and the measure of how serious or
"grave" something is. When you say something is "a matter of some gravity",
it means it's a matter of some seriousness. That phrase had a double
meaning as regards that story. Anyway...
>>>>at page 12 panel
1, we can see on a board in Duckburg's airport names of cities which the
flights are going to. IN the french version, those are Tombouctou, Puerto
Povro, Costa Trouya, Louisville, and Mickeyville, the french for
...Mouseton... Did you really do it, Unca'Keno, or is it just a mistake by
the translators???
I'm sure they don't think of it as a "mistake". They don't realize that I
don't acknowledge the existance of Mickey Mouse in my version of this
"universe". But if you're asking if *I* put that name on the flight list...
NO. I did include "Louisville" (near to where I'm typing this) in my script
in the signage notes, but that was all.
>>>>>>>>TO DON:
In your story "D96001", I think the original title contains the words
"gravity" and "matter", but I don't have the time to check,
My title was "A Matter of Some Gravity". By the way, that's a clever title
(ahem) in English, but it's untranslatable. "Gravity" means both the force
that holds us to the earth's mass, and the measure of how serious or
"grave" something is. When you say something is "a matter of some gravity",
it means it's a matter of some seriousness. That phrase had a double
meaning as regards that story. Anyway...
>>>>at page 12 panel
1, we can see on a board in Duckburg's airport names of cities which the
flights are going to. IN the french version, those are Tombouctou, Puerto
Povro, Costa Trouya, Louisville, and Mickeyville, the french for
...Mouseton... Did you really do it, Unca'Keno, or is it just a mistake by
the translators???
I'm sure they don't think of it as a "mistake". They don't realize that I
don't acknowledge the existance of Mickey Mouse in my version of this
"universe". But if you're asking if *I* put that name on the flight list...
NO. I did include "Louisville" (near to where I'm typing this) in my script
in the signage notes, but that was all.
Luca Boschi
R: Donald and Daisy married in Notre Duck!!!
Message 217 -
2001-09-20 at 16:52:50
Well, Arthur!
You were faster than me!
>>>In the Brazilian story in which Donald and Daisy married, they marry at
>>>Notre Duck, that we can see on a panel.
>
>> I didn't notice that Gilles. But Luca was refering to another story
>> (historie as Fernando says), which is a follow-up of Barks' tale, published
>> in Super Picsou G?ant, with the same mysterious sosie of Scrooge.
>
> The two Brazilian stories are:
>
> B 870024 DD O casamento do Pato Donald
Well, this can be intended like a "WHAT IF" story... Even if the location is
clear.
>
> and
>
> B 800079 US A volta do fantasma de Notre Dame
>
> where US returns to Notre Duck and finds *another* character
> wearing the phantom costume (not that US's double from the original
> Barks' story)
>
And this is the one I referred. The masked character seems to be Magica, at
least!
Luca
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
You were faster than me!
>>>In the Brazilian story in which Donald and Daisy married, they marry at
>>>Notre Duck, that we can see on a panel.
>
>> I didn't notice that Gilles. But Luca was refering to another story
>> (historie as Fernando says), which is a follow-up of Barks' tale, published
>> in Super Picsou G?ant, with the same mysterious sosie of Scrooge.
>
> The two Brazilian stories are:
>
> B 870024 DD O casamento do Pato Donald
Well, this can be intended like a "WHAT IF" story... Even if the location is
clear.
>
> and
>
> B 800079 US A volta do fantasma de Notre Dame
>
> where US returns to Notre Duck and finds *another* character
> wearing the phantom costume (not that US's double from the original
> Barks' story)
>
And this is the one I referred. The masked character seems to be Magica, at
least!
Luca
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Fluks, H.W.
Den Bosch, the Dutch San Diego
Message 218 -
2001-09-20 at 21:05:12
Ivo wrote:
> Harry wrote:
> >> On 22 and 23 September there will be the annual Stripdagen (comic
> >> convention) in Den Bosch.
> I will be in Den Bosch on Saturday.
I will be there at about 2 o'clock (and so will Dani?l and Fran?ois).
In any case, we will be near the "Donald Duck" stand at 15:00, in case
anyone likes to meet us.
Also have a good look at the Daan Jippes exhibition. There is a (small)
poster there, advertising our Inducks database.
--Harry.
> Harry wrote:
> >> On 22 and 23 September there will be the annual Stripdagen (comic
> >> convention) in Den Bosch.
> I will be in Den Bosch on Saturday.
I will be there at about 2 o'clock (and so will Dani?l and Fran?ois).
In any case, we will be near the "Donald Duck" stand at 15:00, in case
anyone likes to meet us.
Also have a good look at the Daan Jippes exhibition. There is a (small)
poster there, advertising our Inducks database.
--Harry.
Fernando Ventura
The most famous brazilian story.
Message 219 -
2001-09-21 at 03:00:47
After this discussion about Notre Duck I was thinking...I suppose "O
Casamento do Pato Donald", B 870024 was the most famous Disney's brazilian
story!
At least, on DCML! It's the only one from Brazil that so much people around
here knows...Probably 'cause it's one of the most polemic Disney story in
the History! Waldyr Igayara(or Iga, as I call him) told me that
Disney-Brazil, on that time, represented by Redibra, was not in favor of
this comic, but it's one of the most big succes of Disney's Abril comics!
It's time to do another thing like this around here... :(
Fernando!
Casamento do Pato Donald", B 870024 was the most famous Disney's brazilian
story!
At least, on DCML! It's the only one from Brazil that so much people around
here knows...Probably 'cause it's one of the most polemic Disney story in
the History! Waldyr Igayara(or Iga, as I call him) told me that
Disney-Brazil, on that time, represented by Redibra, was not in favor of
this comic, but it's one of the most big succes of Disney's Abril comics!
It's time to do another thing like this around here... :(
Fernando!
Fabio Blanco
The most famous brazilian story.
Message 220 -
2001-09-21 at 08:22:02
Is so interesting like was when Sue Storm married Reed Richards, but in the
FF are continuity...
But like was resolved the continuity in Pato Donald? Was all a dream like in
the cartoon where Daisy become a really witch?
Fabio
> After this discussion about Notre Duck I was thinking...I suppose "O
> Casamento do Pato Donald", B 870024 was the most famous Disney's brazilian
> story!
FF are continuity...
But like was resolved the continuity in Pato Donald? Was all a dream like in
the cartoon where Daisy become a really witch?
Fabio
> After this discussion about Notre Duck I was thinking...I suppose "O
> Casamento do Pato Donald", B 870024 was the most famous Disney's brazilian
> story!
Pekka Timonen
DCML digest #675
Message 221 -
2001-09-21 at 08:50:08
Don:
> My title was "A Matter of Some Gravity". By the way, that's a clever title
> (ahem) in English, but it's untranslatable. "Gravity" means both the force
> that holds us to the earth's mass, and the measure of how serious or
> "grave" something is. When you say something is "a matter of some
gravity",
> it means it's a matter of some seriousness. That phrase had a double
> meaning as regards that story. Anyway...
>
All this time I had thought you had meant it the way physicists think of:
matter affects the surrounding space-time by bending it, and the
manifestation of this is gravitation. Oh, well.
--
Pekka Timonen (pati at iki.fi)
> My title was "A Matter of Some Gravity". By the way, that's a clever title
> (ahem) in English, but it's untranslatable. "Gravity" means both the force
> that holds us to the earth's mass, and the measure of how serious or
> "grave" something is. When you say something is "a matter of some
gravity",
> it means it's a matter of some seriousness. That phrase had a double
> meaning as regards that story. Anyway...
>
All this time I had thought you had meant it the way physicists think of:
matter affects the surrounding space-time by bending it, and the
manifestation of this is gravitation. Oh, well.
--
Pekka Timonen (pati at iki.fi)
Fabio Blanco
DCML digest #675
Message 222 -
2001-09-21 at 09:09:23
> Don:
> > My title was "A Matter of Some Gravity". By the way, that's a clever
title
> > (ahem) in English, but it's untranslatable. "Gravity" means both the
force
> > that holds us to the earth's mass, and the measure of how serious or
> > "grave" something is. When you say something is "a matter of some
> gravity",
Thats works in Spanish too... would be "Un asunto de cierta gravedad"...
Fabio
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
> > My title was "A Matter of Some Gravity". By the way, that's a clever
title
> > (ahem) in English, but it's untranslatable. "Gravity" means both the
force
> > that holds us to the earth's mass, and the measure of how serious or
> > "grave" something is. When you say something is "a matter of some
> gravity",
Thats works in Spanish too... would be "Un asunto de cierta gravedad"...
Fabio
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Kriton Kyrimis
Your suite101 essay
Message 223 -
2001-09-21 at 13:44:39
JOHN:
> Hello Robert,
>
> you are equating comic book fictional violence with real world actual
> violence: most people, yes, even most kids, know the difference
Do they? I wonder.
I recently saw the results of a US poll showing that the majority of US
citizens were in favor of going to war: more than 90% were in favor of
"going to war", and more than 60% were in favor of "going to war if it
resulted in the death of 1000 US soldiers". It would seem that about
a quarter of those asked did not understand that war actually involves
people getting killed on both sides!
> Try
> this instead, have parents actually spend *time* with their kids, and
> teach them the difference between right and wrong, fiction and reality.
Heresy! Parents should not spend any time with their children! If they
did, why would they need to buy them lots and lots of expensive toys,
to make up for their lack of attention? This would ruin the toy industry,
depriving hundreds of people of their jobs!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Well, Ivan, you're the one in the navigator's seat. What are you doing?"
"Sir, I am instructed to keep this seat warm until Chekov returns."
-----
> Hello Robert,
>
> you are equating comic book fictional violence with real world actual
> violence: most people, yes, even most kids, know the difference
Do they? I wonder.
I recently saw the results of a US poll showing that the majority of US
citizens were in favor of going to war: more than 90% were in favor of
"going to war", and more than 60% were in favor of "going to war if it
resulted in the death of 1000 US soldiers". It would seem that about
a quarter of those asked did not understand that war actually involves
people getting killed on both sides!
> Try
> this instead, have parents actually spend *time* with their kids, and
> teach them the difference between right and wrong, fiction and reality.
Heresy! Parents should not spend any time with their children! If they
did, why would they need to buy them lots and lots of expensive toys,
to make up for their lack of attention? This would ruin the toy industry,
depriving hundreds of people of their jobs!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Well, Ivan, you're the one in the navigator's seat. What are you doing?"
"Sir, I am instructed to keep this seat warm until Chekov returns."
-----
Don Rosa
DCML digest #676
Message 224 -
2001-09-21 at 15:57:08
From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
>>>Rather an adaptation.
I don't have the French version. The aiport is "Coot International
Airport". The original board ("A Matter of Some Gravity", WDC&S 610, March
'97--
ah, the good ol' Gladstone days!) reads:
Flight 109: Gooseville (11:02)
Flight 315: Farawaystan (11:37)
Flight 757: Costa Lotta (11:56)
Flight 214: Purto Pooro (12:14)
Flight 666: Louisville (Late)
You are making errors in assumption here, Olivier. First, the Gladstone
version is not the "original" ... it is a reprint of the earlier European
(Egmont) uses of that story. And you cannot always assume that they were
using my original script, word for word (though we usually tried to do
that). I just checked the original script again, and I indicated NO names
of cities to be on that flight schedule board. In the following panel where
Donald has one jammed in his mouth, my script indicates that that one
should say "LOUISVILLE", but I left the others up to Byron Erickson, and he
either created his own flight destinations for his "official" version of my
script, or he left it to the individual translators.
Anyway, I am still working on the "sorta sequel" to "A Matter of Some
Gravity" and should have it finished next week. I should avoid calling it a
sequel since that might suggest to someone it will involve gravity again,
or that it will be in any way as funny as the original. But the boss wanted
another short, fast-paced Magica story before I started my next overblown
opus, so this seemed-like-a-good-idea-at-the-time.
From: "Pekka Timonen" <pati at iki.fi>
>When you say something is "a matter of some gravity",
> it means it's a matter of some seriousness.
>>>All this time I had thought you had meant it the way physicists think
of:
matter affects the surrounding space-time by bending it, and the
manifestation of this is gravitation. Oh, well.
Oh, well, yes, obviously, I meant that as well.
From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
>When you say something is "a matter of some gravity",
> it means it's a matter of some seriousness.
>>>Thats works in Spanish too... would be "Un asunto de cierta gravedad"...
Really? I had counted on the Spanish title to make a reference to how
matter affects the surrounding space-time by bending it, and the
manifestation of this is gravitation. Caramba!
>>>Rather an adaptation.
I don't have the French version. The aiport is "Coot International
Airport". The original board ("A Matter of Some Gravity", WDC&S 610, March
'97--
ah, the good ol' Gladstone days!) reads:
Flight 109: Gooseville (11:02)
Flight 315: Farawaystan (11:37)
Flight 757: Costa Lotta (11:56)
Flight 214: Purto Pooro (12:14)
Flight 666: Louisville (Late)
You are making errors in assumption here, Olivier. First, the Gladstone
version is not the "original" ... it is a reprint of the earlier European
(Egmont) uses of that story. And you cannot always assume that they were
using my original script, word for word (though we usually tried to do
that). I just checked the original script again, and I indicated NO names
of cities to be on that flight schedule board. In the following panel where
Donald has one jammed in his mouth, my script indicates that that one
should say "LOUISVILLE", but I left the others up to Byron Erickson, and he
either created his own flight destinations for his "official" version of my
script, or he left it to the individual translators.
Anyway, I am still working on the "sorta sequel" to "A Matter of Some
Gravity" and should have it finished next week. I should avoid calling it a
sequel since that might suggest to someone it will involve gravity again,
or that it will be in any way as funny as the original. But the boss wanted
another short, fast-paced Magica story before I started my next overblown
opus, so this seemed-like-a-good-idea-at-the-time.
From: "Pekka Timonen" <pati at iki.fi>
>When you say something is "a matter of some gravity",
> it means it's a matter of some seriousness.
>>>All this time I had thought you had meant it the way physicists think
of:
matter affects the surrounding space-time by bending it, and the
manifestation of this is gravitation. Oh, well.
Oh, well, yes, obviously, I meant that as well.
From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
>When you say something is "a matter of some gravity",
> it means it's a matter of some seriousness.
>>>Thats works in Spanish too... would be "Un asunto de cierta gravedad"...
Really? I had counted on the Spanish title to make a reference to how
matter affects the surrounding space-time by bending it, and the
manifestation of this is gravitation. Caramba!
Luca Boschi
Very curious, about the most famous brazilian story.
Message 225 -
2001-09-21 at 17:49:21
Hello, Fernando ad all...
I read that "O Casamento do Pato Donald", B 870024 should be the most
famous Disney's brazilian story. Very interesting. You wrote:
>
> It's the only one from Brazil that so much people around
> here knows...Probably 'cause it's one of the most polemic Disney story in
> the History! Waldyr Igayara(or Iga, as I call him) told me that
> Disney-Brazil, on that time, represented by Redibra, was not in favor of
> this comic, but it's one of the most big succes of Disney's Abril comics!
Can you tell us why Waldyr Igayara said so, and something more about this
matter? In Italy, "Mega Alkmanacco" published it with a Marco Rota/Roberto
Marini's cover, and never reprinted it. But I think it deserves a better
edition...
Thank you in advance.
Luca
I read that "O Casamento do Pato Donald", B 870024 should be the most
famous Disney's brazilian story. Very interesting. You wrote:
>
> It's the only one from Brazil that so much people around
> here knows...Probably 'cause it's one of the most polemic Disney story in
> the History! Waldyr Igayara(or Iga, as I call him) told me that
> Disney-Brazil, on that time, represented by Redibra, was not in favor of
> this comic, but it's one of the most big succes of Disney's Abril comics!
Can you tell us why Waldyr Igayara said so, and something more about this
matter? In Italy, "Mega Alkmanacco" published it with a Marco Rota/Roberto
Marini's cover, and never reprinted it. But I think it deserves a better
edition...
Thank you in advance.
Luca