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Fluks, H.W.
Vic:

> An interesting political work entitled "How To Read
> Donald Duck"...anybody read it?

Yes, it's by Dorfman and Matellart from Chile. English translation by David
Kunzle. We discussed the book a few times before, on DCML.

--Harry.
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Recently, I've been reading Set 9 of the old CBL. I read a story (sorry,
I don't have issue numbers on hand) dealing with the duck's new years
resolutions. 12 issues later, there was another resolutions story with
references to the previous one.

I know Barks generally didn't tie his stories together this way. I had
only known of one case where that happened, and this wasn't it. Are
there more?

Rodney Bowcock

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At 18:29 25.09.01 -0400, Rodney w bowcock jr. wrote:
>Recently, I've been reading Set 9 of the old CBL. I read a story (sorry,
>I don't have issue numbers on hand) dealing with the duck's new years
>resolutions. 12 issues later, there was another resolutions story with
>references to the previous one.
>
>I know Barks generally didn't tie his stories together this way. I had
>only known of one case where that happened, and this wasn't it. Are
>there more?
>
>Rodney Bowcock

This made me search for an old message I sent to this list, discovering it
was actually in my very first posting!

I wrote:
>Barks never stressed continuity between his stories although, like Don
>Rosa's Life of $crooge McDuck shows, things happened to be rather
>consistent anyway. But it's interesting to pinpoint the few occasions in
>Barks' stories where he actually refers to an earlier story. I've come up
>with the these examples:
>1. "The Great Ski Race" (WDC 62) opens with a panel where HDL are bathing
>in pile of cash and Donald making a comment about the reward HDL got last
>month for catching a bank robber as seen in the previous issue of WDC "Thug
>Busters".
>2. In Frozen Gold (OS 62) Donald is dreaming of a vacation away from snow
>covered Duckburg. Florida is a natural choice, and in the beginning of the
>next adventure in the same OS, "Mystery of the swamp", they are there.
>Presumably Donald and HDL have finished flying more supplies of penicillin
>to Alaska, and Donald is now complaining about the lack of adventure.
>3. In "Secret Resolutions" WDC 185, Donald and the nephews decide to make
>their new year's resolutions secrets because of the troubles that aroused
>one year earlier in "New Year's Revolutions" WDC 173.
>4. In "Feud And Far Between" WDC 281, Neighbor Jones is secretly moving in
>next door again. While Donald and HDL are trying to find out who the
>mysterious new neighbor is, they are talking about Jones and the backyard
>war between him and Donald as seen in WDC 34, 38, 48, 63, U$ 6B and "Silent
>Night".
>5. The series of one pagers showing $crooge getting his moneys worth of
>coffee.
>
>Can anybody tell me if there are more such connections?

Then Merlin Haas reminded me of the following:

> In the '60s Scrooge story involving the Candy-striped Ruby (which
>Scrooge tries to hide by putting it in a batch of peppermint candy) the
>Beagle Boys refer to an earlier Scrooge story ("All at Sea"??) in which
>Scrooge tries to move gold bullion by ship by having it molded to look
>like corn.

My examples number 1 and 3 and the one mentioned by Merlin Haas are the
best examples, with direct outspoken connections. My three other examples
are a bit more vague.

Any other examples?

Halsten
Fluks, H.W.
Rodney, Halsten:

> I know Barks generally didn't tie his stories together this
> way. I had
> only known of one case where that happened, and this wasn't it. Are
> there more?

The second story where Flintheart Glomgold appears clearly refers to the
first.

--Harry.
Eta Beta
HARRY, DAVID

>> I'm referring to a Gottfredson/Walsh story, "Mickey Mouse
>> and the 'Lectro Box"
>> (YM 058), which saw in the original publication, in the
>> very last panel,
>> the three scientists left in their underpants by the effect
>> of the Box...
>
>I think David Gerstein can tell us all about this. I if recall correctly
>what he told me, the *original* print in the newspapers was censored
>(trousers added to the professors). Then, for the reprint in the WDC comic
>book, they *added* one professor, and didn't give him trousers (while
>leaving the censored artwork for the other professors). They had to add some
>art anyway, since the panel in WDC was wider than the original newspaper
>panel.
>
>The 1990s reprint is exactly like the first WDC reprint.

Well, some more research (which I indeed should have done before
bothering Bob Foster) fully confirms the above, only...

Apart from the inducks-related curiosity, another reason why I
asked that question is that I have a picture in my mind, of
all the darn scientist (which were, btw, 5 and not 3) in their
underpants, and striped those were, too... this might of course
be one of those false memories one builds up with time (and I
suspect not getting any younger helps in that respect... :-),
but the funny thing is that I share this memory with other
folks... and we all remember striped pants...

Now, sharing false memories is not uncommon, either, it possibly
even helps them becoming more detailed... however, is there a
slight chance of that panel, in its original, uncensored form,
having been published somewhere ? Anybody knows ?

Cheers

Eta Beta
Francesco Spreafico
... I hope we'll have no repercussions in comics...

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,37-2001332959,00.html

--
Sprea
Wes Andersen
I'd like to thank everyone for their patience with my recent blunder (the
age-old include-the-entire-digest-in-your-reply debacle). Several of you
tolerantly called it to my attention, most just ignored it, but not one
flame. I've set my system to not include text when replying. You are all a
bunch of top-flight ducks.
-- Wes

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Fluks, H.W.
I wrote:

> On 22 and 23 September there will be the annual Stripdagen (comic
> convention) in Den Bosch.

I now uploaded some (small) photographs on the Web. Have a look at:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/p01-07.html

--Harry.
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
WES
>
>3) Is there a web site with Don's Duck Family Tree posted (and is it
>legal?)

Yes (no, but I guess many things in this area would be considered
illegal by certain folks in Burbank ?)

I advice you to not go to the official pages of the weeklies (eg.
www.andeby.dk) to find the tree - instead go to my friend
Sigvald's page, where you'll find the tree in several languages
and both general versions.

At the moment the page doesn't seem to be viewable (though the link is:
http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/sigvaldg/famtree/tree.html
) You can also find it via our mainpage (http://www.duckhunt.de)

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Joe GouldIII
I was going 2 Du something else 4 my inagural
posting from this WebDress ( I was , formerly ,
" liljerryandtheyadayadakiddz , or , " Lil' Jerry And
The Yadda-Yadda Kids " ! ) , but , th' mention o'
Dorfman's " How To Read " sparks me to mention that ,
recently , while visiting at someone's apartment , I
found a later book , this one by Ariel? Dorfman alone
, also giving his Marxist-oriented analysis of (
mostly ) Western comics/pop culture - I'll check
AmazonCom or something 2 find th' X-Act title , but ,
I want to get this off now !!!!!
The book also touched on our Duck pals again , with
Unca' Carl's " A tornado redistributes all of U$'s
Dough and he ends up getting it back , anyway . "
story coming in for , as you might imagine , some
criticism ,
but , other things - such as Tarzan comics , the
Reader's Digest , and a Chilean comic that I'd never
heard of before - were touched on , as well !
I only had time to , quickly , leap/scan through the
book . The book mentioned that the citations/quotes
from the non-Spanish material , as quoted in the book
, were retranslated back into English from the
Spanish versions that Dorfman had used as his
references , and were NOT from the , original ,
English-language versions , something that ,
apparently , was also true of the " How..." book , but
, not mentioned in the American text . ( And , thus ,
apparently bringing on much criticism from the book's
detractors - Since Unca' Carl hisself was pretty much
on the more conservative end of the - by US
definitions of it - spectrum , as far as his own ,
personal , political views went , certainly NOT a
socialist , let alone Marxist , and , naturally , I
think , many - Though , not all ! - Barks fans follow
suit , there was a lotta detractin' , methinks ! )

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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 9/26/2001 6:08:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
joegouldiii at yahoo.com writes:

> I
> found a later book , this one by Ariel? Dorfman alone
> , also giving his Marxist-oriented analysis of (
> mostly ) Western comics/pop culture - I'll check
> AmazonCom or something 2 find th' X-Act title , but ,
> I want to get this off now !!!!!
>

i have this, and I believe the title is the Emperors New Clothes (or
somehting like that - and yes the ducks are in it)

steven rowe
Kriton Kyrimis
SPREA:

> ... I hope we'll have no repercussions in comics...

Well, they might become so desperate for new sources of income, that
they decide to let someone publish Disney comics in the US again!

I don't think that Disney's problems can affect Disney comics
badly. Disney comics are something that, without Disney doing anything,
provides them with a steady (albeit small, compared to the company's
size), stream of money. Even if Disney goes bankrupt, I don't see why
whoever gets their assets would want to stop production of Disney comics.

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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universe wants to get you."
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Francesco Gerbaldo
GREETINGS TO
ROMANO SCARPA
FOR HIS 74 YEARS
FRancesco
Eero-Pekka Halinen
Arne:
> >Can anyone tell me how I can draw a duck's bill? I have tried it a
> >thousand times but they always look strange and not like a bill. Is
> >there a trick how it can be drwawn properly?

It took me a long time to make it to look even passable. But with THIS thing
I agree with Don Rosa: Practise is the only way to learn to do anything.

Eero-Pekka

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Francesco Spreafico
Da: "Francesco Gerbaldo" <gerba at libero.it>

> GREETINGS TO
>
> ROMANO SCARPA
>
> FOR HIS 74 YEARS

Best wishes from me too, and right today (what a coincidence!) I received a
sketch from him, check it out in my introdu(k)tion page:
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo/dcml/introduc.htm (the first sketch at the
bottom of the page)

--
Francesco
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo
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