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Mcduck_Enterprises
Quote from user: rodneyFools! You will never know what Boom doesn't want you to know, which is only that next month's Darkwing Duck sure is great! Mwah-ha-ha!

In all seriousness, I would rather a company worth a damn (like Fantagraphics) handle things.

Hi-larious!
Baar Baar Jinx
Another article hinting about the Marvel takeover ....
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/19883.html
And as we've noted ourselves, they say ...
"A BOOM! spokesperson declined to comment on any questions related to its Disney titles."
GeoX
Well look, we're all quite naturally worked up over this, but until some new information of some sort comes out, it seems like further speculation is pointless. Maybe things aren't as bad as they seem. Or, hey, maybe they're worse! But a lot of this anxiety seems kind of self-inflicted, so I'm going to remain as optimistic as I possibly can until given concrete reason to feel otherwise.
Louis Lane
Does this mean Boom Kids 3.0 is on the horizon?
LL
Vesuvius
Why does everyone assume Disney is at fault here, and that they're pulling the license away from Boom and handing it to Marvel?
From what's been out there about the Pixar and Muppet licenses, those didn't get pulled away from Boom, they expired...and once they expired, they went to Marvel, which Disney now owns. It's likely Boom was even able to bid on re-upping the license and didn't want to...if you look at the sales figures, the Pixar and Muppet titles clearly weren't selling for them. Boom is a small company, and clearly their marketing never managed to bring in any new readers to these books, which is no doubt why they switched from what they thought would sell (kiddie fare like Wizards Of Mickey) to the classics that they at LEAST figured old school fans would support. But it was maybe to late to get retailers to support it at that point.
The classic titles sales have dropped precipitously, so Boom is pulling the plug and quietly hoping that they can get by without saying anything. Meanwhile, they hope you'll still buy Darkwing Duck, the only Kaboom title that still cracks 5,000 copies despite the fact that it's written by the same in-house editor that destroyed C&DRR. (And since it's no longer available for subscription on the Boom website, I think it's safe to say C&DRR is cancelled after this current story.)
(Incidentally, I follow the C&DRR colorist on twitter, and he said awhile back that issue five was his last. They switched artists on that issue too, so it looks like they're just letting it run it's course as cheaply as possible. Maybe I can ask him for some insight...)
From start to finish Boom has misstepped with this license every step of the way. They misjudged the property, launched it badly, and never really had the bandwidth to get anyone to notice the books that weren't already in comic book stores. Finally bringing back the classics was just too little, too late.
Best of luck to Marvel, because that's where it's going.
GeoX
Maybe, but at this point that's far from a given, in spite of what everyone seems to want to think. We will see.
Robb_K
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderQuote from user: JanoQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderDisney has been working on these titles
The publishers have, *not* Disney. The only time Disney did the comics themselves (without much success) was the short period between 1990 and 1993, when they'd taken away Gladstone's license.

I know, I know. But it seemed to take a little long to name all the publishers: Dell, Gold Key, Whitman, Gladstone, Disney, Gladstone, Gemstone, Boom and Kaboom.
Side-question: did Dell publish Walt Disney's Comics and Stories since 1940, or did they start later?

Back on topic. Let's face it: we need some kind of second Gladstone. Any chance that there are any kids that read Gladstone comics 20 years ago, and a few individuals who want to start a really tiny publishing company?

I have the originals. The Dell imprint started on the Four Color Comics series immediately, in 1940. But, it didn't start appearing on Walt Disney's Comics and Stories until 1947 (I think-or was it late 1946?). In any case they were published by K.K. Publications, which was a subsidiary arm of Whitman Publishing and its subsidiary, Western Publishing. I guess the books with the Dell imprint were published by K.K. Publications and distributed by Dell.
Patrick Hanifin
Despite what might be happening it's nice to see passion here again on the forum with new letters popping up every hour.

Patrick
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Dutch Duckfan Down Under
Quote from user: Robb_KQuote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderSide-question: did Dell publish Walt Disney's Comics and Stories since 1940, or did they start later?
I have the originals. The Dell imprint started on the Four Color Comics series immediately, in 1940. But, it didn't start appearing on Walt Disney's Comics and Stories until 1947 (I think-or was it late 1946?). In any case they were published by K.K. Publications, which was a subsidiary arm of Whitman Publishing and its subsidiary, Western Publishing. I guess the books with the Dell imprint were published by K.K. Publications and distributed by Dell.

It was March 1948. I knew it that, far, that's why I asked.
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I always assumed Disney published the early 1940 issues themselves. I don't know what their 1940s attitude to Disney comics was, but from what I've read a few posts up, it's very different from their 1990s attitude.
Steet
Honestly, I see this as a good news because if the Disney Afternoon titles move to Marvel too, this may open the possibility for TaleSpin comics again (considering Boom Studios declined to get the licence, probably for the same reason : they are losing the Disney licence and/or aren't interested in renewing it)
It's definitely not a coincidence if Boom is getting non-Disney licences this year! They want to keep this "kids" brand, even without Disney titles.
Something's not right though : Aaron Sparrow (who worked on Darkwing Duck before leaving Boom) said that Boom has the "classic Disney characters" licence until june 2012. So why stopping now? And what about the Ducktales title, not even released yet? The Ducktales and Uncle scrooge titles are linked with the same licence.
Baar Baar Jinx
Quote from user: Louis LaneDoes this mean Boom Kids 3.0 is on the horizon?

LL

Undoubtedly. All our questions will soon be answered with a stock response to follow a link that takes us to an unclickable, garish, bright yellow graphic of the words "Boom 3.0!" ripping through the Kaboom logo, that will replace their website for the next two weeks.

Seriously though, Boom probably was aware of the writing on the wall to a certain extent. As others have pointed out, that's likely why they started accumulating the (uninspiring, IMHO) non-Disney licenses. Peanuts looks like it's limited to that one DVD-tie in graphic novel, and none of the other promised product interests me. Although I'm a Star Wars fan, "Space Warped" looks just awful. I know, don't judge a book by its cover, but is that the best they could do to promote it? Once their last Disney books come out, I'm done with Boom as well.

What is the fate of the Four Color/Treasury/Archives? Hopefully they will still put out everything they've announced. Will the remaining issues of the classics that have been solicited still be coming out?
Rodney
The Archives book is useless if it's a single volume (of which the contents have never been confirmed, but we can assume will contain, what, the first two and a half issues of WDCS?). Besides with the Gottfredson stuff coming out in a much better format, I kind of wonder who would be interested in books of edited newspaper strips and kids text stories. Historically, it's important. But it's sure not all that entertaining.
Robb_K
Quote from user: Dutch Duckfan Down UnderIt was March 1948. I knew it that, far, that's why I asked.
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/us/wdc/090/us_wdc_090_00_001.jpg
I always assumed Disney published the early 1940 issues themselves. I don't know what their 1940s attitude to Disney comics was, but from what I've read a few posts up, it's very different from their 1990s attitude.

I'm sure that Disney's attitude towards the value of their comic books is much less favourable today than it was from 1940-March 1948. But, they did NOT publish Walt Disney's Comics and Stories from 1940-1948. K.K. Publications (a subsidiary of Western Publishing Co., which was, in turn, a division of Whitman Publishing) published them. The only difference between that line and the other Disney Comics (Four Color series)imprinted with the Dell Comics logo, was that the Four Color comics were published by Western Publishing and distributed by Dell, and WDC was published by Western's subsidiary K.K., and, apparently, NOT distributed by Dell. I wonder if K.K. handled their own distribution at that time, until April of 1948?
Vesuvius
Quote from user: steetSomething's not right though : Aaron Sparrow (who worked on Darkwing Duck before leaving Boom) said that Boom has the "classic Disney characters" licence until june 2012. So why stopping now? And what about the Ducktales title, not even released yet? The Ducktales and Uncle scrooge titles are linked with the same licence.
Where was this?
Steet
He said it on Twitter.
If the Disney Afternoon titles are separate licences though, this would be possible. Boom got the Disney licence in mid-2009, and usually they last for two years...which means mid-2011. Hence no titles in July.
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