Hi,
Just a short note to inform you that you can now register (free, of cours=
e)
on the Disney Book Network, to be informed on a regular basis of all the
books about Disney being published or to come.
http://www.pizarro.net/didier
Didier
Disney Books Network: http://www.pizarro.net/didier
Author
Topic: 199804
(229 messages)
Didier Ghez
Disney Books Network
Message 1 -
1998-04-01 at 11:09:58
Francois Willot
Disney babies
Message 2 -
1998-04-01 at 16:13:29
Rich Bellacera wrote:
>
> Being an avid fan of various aspects of Disney animation, comics and
> such, I have recently discovered that in France many comics featuring
> the "Disney Babies" are published. In America we have seen books and
> other products which feature the "Disney Babies" (not "beanie babies")
> usually produced for baby nurseries and clothing and such, but have
> rarely seen any examples of actual comics published here (with one
> notable example, specifically in "Walt Disney's Comics and Stories"
> #582 starring Baby Pete in "Pete's Pacifier").
This is an S-coded story, according to the Disney database.
Hachette produced exactly 558 "Disney babies" gags, and only 2 or 3
"long" stories (8 pages). The artist was Claude Marin (and sometimes
Gen-Clo); the stories were written by Cousseau and Belhomme (and
exceptionally Francois Corteggiani and Jean-Luc Cochet).
Hachette had various problems with these gags: people at Disney in the
US (e.g. Greg Crosby), didn't like the idea of showing the Disney
characters as *babies*. Their argument was: if the Disney characters
have a past, a *childhood*, then they also have a future, so they will
eventually die. How could someone put that idea in a Disney story?
That's why - I suppose - they stopped to create S-coded gags with the
Disney babies, but Hachette continued during so many years.
> I have pictures of Baby Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Daisy, Goofy, Pluto,
> Pete, Gyro, Cluck, Horace and Clarabelle, but I have never seen an
> example of Baby Gladstone.
I have never seen Horace and Clarabelle as babies, myself. I assume they
appeared in S-coded gags?
You didn't mention baby Gus, who often appeared in the series. By the
way, Claude Marin wanted to create a "be'be' Patibulette" (the female
version of baby Pete), but this was rejected (while the gags are good!).
(More info about this on Didier Ghez's site - the Claude Marin interview
- at http://www.pizarro.net/didier).
I can add that several sketchs with Patibulette were published in the
Journal de Mickey in 1997.
Francois
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #90
*****************************************
>
> Being an avid fan of various aspects of Disney animation, comics and
> such, I have recently discovered that in France many comics featuring
> the "Disney Babies" are published. In America we have seen books and
> other products which feature the "Disney Babies" (not "beanie babies")
> usually produced for baby nurseries and clothing and such, but have
> rarely seen any examples of actual comics published here (with one
> notable example, specifically in "Walt Disney's Comics and Stories"
> #582 starring Baby Pete in "Pete's Pacifier").
This is an S-coded story, according to the Disney database.
Hachette produced exactly 558 "Disney babies" gags, and only 2 or 3
"long" stories (8 pages). The artist was Claude Marin (and sometimes
Gen-Clo); the stories were written by Cousseau and Belhomme (and
exceptionally Francois Corteggiani and Jean-Luc Cochet).
Hachette had various problems with these gags: people at Disney in the
US (e.g. Greg Crosby), didn't like the idea of showing the Disney
characters as *babies*. Their argument was: if the Disney characters
have a past, a *childhood*, then they also have a future, so they will
eventually die. How could someone put that idea in a Disney story?
That's why - I suppose - they stopped to create S-coded gags with the
Disney babies, but Hachette continued during so many years.
> I have pictures of Baby Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Daisy, Goofy, Pluto,
> Pete, Gyro, Cluck, Horace and Clarabelle, but I have never seen an
> example of Baby Gladstone.
I have never seen Horace and Clarabelle as babies, myself. I assume they
appeared in S-coded gags?
You didn't mention baby Gus, who often appeared in the series. By the
way, Claude Marin wanted to create a "be'be' Patibulette" (the female
version of baby Pete), but this was rejected (while the gags are good!).
(More info about this on Didier Ghez's site - the Claude Marin interview
- at http://www.pizarro.net/didier).
I can add that several sketchs with Patibulette were published in the
Journal de Mickey in 1997.
Francois
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #90
*****************************************
Mike Schneiderath
Don Rosa signing events!
Message 3 -
1998-04-01 at 17:51:55
Here is a short quote from Don Rosa concerning his next public signing
appearances.=20
--------------------------
Don Rosa:
>I'll be at Wondercon in Oakland (California) on April 17 & 18... I'll be
>easy to find there, they seem to have me sitting at the first artist-table,
>#0A1.
>I'll be at the Erlangen comic convention in Germany on June 4-7.
>I'll be at the Goteborg Book Fair in Sweden on October 22-25.
>I need to check those last two appearances... I might have them one weekend
>off.
--------------------------
So I hope you don=B4t miss him if you are in the area!
Bye!
Mike
appearances.=20
--------------------------
Don Rosa:
>I'll be at Wondercon in Oakland (California) on April 17 & 18... I'll be
>easy to find there, they seem to have me sitting at the first artist-table,
>#0A1.
>I'll be at the Erlangen comic convention in Germany on June 4-7.
>I'll be at the Goteborg Book Fair in Sweden on October 22-25.
>I need to check those last two appearances... I might have them one weekend
>off.
--------------------------
So I hope you don=B4t miss him if you are in the area!
Bye!
Mike
Fluks, H.W.
Disney babies
Message 4 -
1998-04-01 at 18:37:49
Francois (and Rich):
> Hachette produced exactly 558 "Disney babies" gags, and only
> 2 or 3 "long" stories (8 pages).
Note that the Dutch have published a lot of French and S-coded gags in
their magazine "Disneyland", for the very young children. Because of the
success, the Dutch made their own Disney Babies gags since 1990. Up to
now, they made 56 one-pagers.
> I have never seen Horace and Clarabelle as babies, myself. I assume they
> appeared in S-coded gags?
Or H-coded gags. I'm not a reader of "Disneyland", so I couldn't tell.
> (More info about this on Didier Ghez's site - the Claude Marin
> interview - at http://www.pizarro.net/didier).
Can you give a more exact address? All I can find is links to Didier's
Disney Books pages.
--Harry.
><><><><
> Hachette produced exactly 558 "Disney babies" gags, and only
> 2 or 3 "long" stories (8 pages).
Note that the Dutch have published a lot of French and S-coded gags in
their magazine "Disneyland", for the very young children. Because of the
success, the Dutch made their own Disney Babies gags since 1990. Up to
now, they made 56 one-pagers.
> I have never seen Horace and Clarabelle as babies, myself. I assume they
> appeared in S-coded gags?
Or H-coded gags. I'm not a reader of "Disneyland", so I couldn't tell.
> (More info about this on Didier Ghez's site - the Claude Marin
> interview - at http://www.pizarro.net/didier).
Can you give a more exact address? All I can find is links to Didier's
Disney Books pages.
--Harry.
><><><><
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
KOMIX and Scarpa
Message 5 -
1998-04-01 at 19:55:23
KRITON:
>Even more reason to rejoice:
>Unless I'm mistaken, this is the first time that KOMIX does not rely
>on Gladstone or old issues of their own Mickey Mouse magazine for its
>stories, making their own selection instead. If this is indeed so,
>then they have taken steps to eliminate the only reservation I had in
>calling KOMIX the best Disney comics magazine in the world!
You are quite right--while KOMIX has been excellent in almost every respect
since #1 back in 1988 ("Lost in the Andes"), the criticism of relying so
heavily on Gladstone when chosing stories to print is valid. I DID express
similar concerns in letters to the editor a number of times, and it seems
that my ranting did not fall on deaf ears. KOMIX's head-editor, Mr. Stelios
Nikolaou, a fellow I met personally when I visited KOMIX's offices 2 years
ago, seems to be a very open-minded guy. KOMIX seems to be in the right hands.
>Interesting note: in the same issue where they announced the printing
>of "The Flying Scotsman", they printed a letter from a reader who was
>asking KOMIX to put Barks' heirs aside until *all* Barks stories had been
>printed. Much as I can understand the point of view of someone who has
>not yet read all of Barks' stories, I am glad they didn't listen to him!
Right, I wholeheartedly agree with you! KOMIX's readers have participated
for the last 3-4 years in a heated discussion of whether the magazine should
publish mainly Barks' stories (something that it did in its first two years,
1988-1990), or turn its attention to Barks' heirs as well. I sent my
missives supporting the second approach, mainly because I'm allergic to
things that end in -ism--especially purism.
FABRIZIO:
>Hi Archontis; how are you ?
>
>So, this time I MUST have that issue. The flying Scotsman is one
>of my favourite stories !!!
>
>Anything I can offer you in exchange ?
You probably meant this as a personal note, but you know my answer: SURE!
If others are interested, please get in personal e-mail touch with me, and
I'll try to accommodate you!
> BTW do you know if that story is going to be printed
>by Gladstone, as someone said some time ago ?
Well, probably Gary Leach should be the one to answer this, but if my memory
doesn't fail me miserably, I remember reading that "The Flying Scot" was
going to be published in the ill-fated "Uncle Scrooge Andventures" or
something some time in 1998. Now that all but WDC&S and U$ have folded, I
guess its natural place would be in U$. Any updated word from Gary on that one?
Cheers,
Archontis
P.S. The promised Geoff Blum editorial on Rosa's Lo$ will have to wait
awhile--but I'll get to it when leisure comes my way with Easter break.
>Even more reason to rejoice:
>Unless I'm mistaken, this is the first time that KOMIX does not rely
>on Gladstone or old issues of their own Mickey Mouse magazine for its
>stories, making their own selection instead. If this is indeed so,
>then they have taken steps to eliminate the only reservation I had in
>calling KOMIX the best Disney comics magazine in the world!
You are quite right--while KOMIX has been excellent in almost every respect
since #1 back in 1988 ("Lost in the Andes"), the criticism of relying so
heavily on Gladstone when chosing stories to print is valid. I DID express
similar concerns in letters to the editor a number of times, and it seems
that my ranting did not fall on deaf ears. KOMIX's head-editor, Mr. Stelios
Nikolaou, a fellow I met personally when I visited KOMIX's offices 2 years
ago, seems to be a very open-minded guy. KOMIX seems to be in the right hands.
>Interesting note: in the same issue where they announced the printing
>of "The Flying Scotsman", they printed a letter from a reader who was
>asking KOMIX to put Barks' heirs aside until *all* Barks stories had been
>printed. Much as I can understand the point of view of someone who has
>not yet read all of Barks' stories, I am glad they didn't listen to him!
Right, I wholeheartedly agree with you! KOMIX's readers have participated
for the last 3-4 years in a heated discussion of whether the magazine should
publish mainly Barks' stories (something that it did in its first two years,
1988-1990), or turn its attention to Barks' heirs as well. I sent my
missives supporting the second approach, mainly because I'm allergic to
things that end in -ism--especially purism.
FABRIZIO:
>Hi Archontis; how are you ?
>
>So, this time I MUST have that issue. The flying Scotsman is one
>of my favourite stories !!!
>
>Anything I can offer you in exchange ?
You probably meant this as a personal note, but you know my answer: SURE!
If others are interested, please get in personal e-mail touch with me, and
I'll try to accommodate you!
> BTW do you know if that story is going to be printed
>by Gladstone, as someone said some time ago ?
Well, probably Gary Leach should be the one to answer this, but if my memory
doesn't fail me miserably, I remember reading that "The Flying Scot" was
going to be published in the ill-fated "Uncle Scrooge Andventures" or
something some time in 1998. Now that all but WDC&S and U$ have folded, I
guess its natural place would be in U$. Any updated word from Gary on that one?
Cheers,
Archontis
P.S. The promised Geoff Blum editorial on Rosa's Lo$ will have to wait
awhile--but I'll get to it when leisure comes my way with Easter break.
Rich Bellacera
Disney Babies
Message 6 -
1998-04-01 at 21:48:34
Subject: Disney Babies
Katie said:
>I don't recall seeing much about baby Disney characters either, although I
>would like to.
<SNIPPED nice story of *plush* purchase> :-)
>So now I have a little stuffed Baby Scrooge! (I usually refer to him as
>"Baby Scooge"
>taking a cue from DuckTales' Bubba the Cave Duck.)
Strange you should mention this... recently I came into possession of
several Brazilian
comics. Among the titles are "Disney Especial" which usually runs *themes*
as a
format for specific types of tales. In such a case I came across a few
issues which ran
a "Junior" tales (i.e. Disney Kids) theme with stories about HD&L, Morty &
Ferdie,
AM&J, Newton Gearloose, Shamrock Gander, etc. Among these I discovered a few
which, while retaining the feature title of "Tio Patinhas" (Uncle Scrooge)
were *junior*
tales of Scrooge as a young lad about the age of HD&L. These were not, as
one might
imagine, *flashbacks* crafted into a contemporary tale of the elder
Scrooge, rather,
simply tales from his youth (usually in a quibble with the Beagle Boys also
as kids).
My knowledge of Portuguese is limited, but as it is said, "A picture tells
a thousand
words" and my impression of these tales is not very positive.
Can anyone tell us more about these "Young Scrooge" tales from the 1970s?
Francois Willot said:
>Hachette produced exactly 558 "Disney babies" gags, and only 2 or 3
>"long" stories (8 pages). The artist was Claude Marin (and sometimes
>Gen-Clo); the stories were written by Cousseau and Belhomme (and
>exceptionally Francois Corteggiani and Jean-Luc Cochet).
Have these ever been compiled into a single or a set of books (after
their original comic book appearance) which can be purchased still?
>Hachette had various problems with these gags: people at Disney in the
>US (e.g. Greg Crosby), didn't like the idea of showing the Disney
>characters as *babies*. Their argument was: if the Disney characters
>have a past, a *childhood*, then they also have a future, so they will
>eventually die. How could someone put that idea in a Disney story?
That seems like a rediculous example of isolating children from reality.
Maybe it was just their excuse to find a way to stop producing them
instead?
>I have never seen Horace and Clarabelle as babies, myself. I assume they
>appeared in S-coded gags?
I really don't know since the ONLY example of a Disney Babies comic
I ever saw was the one in WDC&S #582 ("Pete's Pacifier") where the
editor (Len Wein??) promised to present more in the future, but as we
all now know that future was cut short when Disney dumped production
of their comics. All of the other appearances of the Disney Babies I
have seen were either on TV commericals for diapers and baby products
or in the form of story & activity books, nursery furniture and accessories,
and children's apparel. These avenues did utilize Horace & Clarabelle
quite frequently.
>You didn't mention baby Gus, who often appeared in the series.
You are correct... I did forget him... He is there among all the other
babies in American products as well.
>By the
>way, Claude Marin wanted to create a "be'be' Patibulette" (the female
>version of baby Pete), but this was rejected (while the gags are good!).
>(More info about this on Didier Ghez's site - the Claude Marin interview
>- at http://www.pizarro.net/didier).
I checked Didier's page for any mention of Claude Marin to no avail. :-(
Can you give me the specific URL where I can find the information?
>I can add that several sketchs with Patibulette were published in the
>Journal de Mickey in 1997.
I would LOVE to see Patibulette... as well as Gladstone whereever that
might be possible. Can you point me in the right direction or send me
a couple of scans?? Please.
BTW, would Patibulette roughly correspond to Pete's roguish girlfriend,
Trudy (Scarpa's creation)? And aside from these two, and the others
I already mentioned, were there any other Babies created for the series?
Also, I have several examples of the Disney Babies on my own website,
illustrations located under each character's profile, as well as on the Disney
Television Animation page. I would like to add Gladstone (at least) to
this site.
Thank you for your help.
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Katie said:
>I don't recall seeing much about baby Disney characters either, although I
>would like to.
<SNIPPED nice story of *plush* purchase> :-)
>So now I have a little stuffed Baby Scrooge! (I usually refer to him as
>"Baby Scooge"
>taking a cue from DuckTales' Bubba the Cave Duck.)
Strange you should mention this... recently I came into possession of
several Brazilian
comics. Among the titles are "Disney Especial" which usually runs *themes*
as a
format for specific types of tales. In such a case I came across a few
issues which ran
a "Junior" tales (i.e. Disney Kids) theme with stories about HD&L, Morty &
Ferdie,
AM&J, Newton Gearloose, Shamrock Gander, etc. Among these I discovered a few
which, while retaining the feature title of "Tio Patinhas" (Uncle Scrooge)
were *junior*
tales of Scrooge as a young lad about the age of HD&L. These were not, as
one might
imagine, *flashbacks* crafted into a contemporary tale of the elder
Scrooge, rather,
simply tales from his youth (usually in a quibble with the Beagle Boys also
as kids).
My knowledge of Portuguese is limited, but as it is said, "A picture tells
a thousand
words" and my impression of these tales is not very positive.
Can anyone tell us more about these "Young Scrooge" tales from the 1970s?
Francois Willot said:
>Hachette produced exactly 558 "Disney babies" gags, and only 2 or 3
>"long" stories (8 pages). The artist was Claude Marin (and sometimes
>Gen-Clo); the stories were written by Cousseau and Belhomme (and
>exceptionally Francois Corteggiani and Jean-Luc Cochet).
Have these ever been compiled into a single or a set of books (after
their original comic book appearance) which can be purchased still?
>Hachette had various problems with these gags: people at Disney in the
>US (e.g. Greg Crosby), didn't like the idea of showing the Disney
>characters as *babies*. Their argument was: if the Disney characters
>have a past, a *childhood*, then they also have a future, so they will
>eventually die. How could someone put that idea in a Disney story?
That seems like a rediculous example of isolating children from reality.
Maybe it was just their excuse to find a way to stop producing them
instead?
>I have never seen Horace and Clarabelle as babies, myself. I assume they
>appeared in S-coded gags?
I really don't know since the ONLY example of a Disney Babies comic
I ever saw was the one in WDC&S #582 ("Pete's Pacifier") where the
editor (Len Wein??) promised to present more in the future, but as we
all now know that future was cut short when Disney dumped production
of their comics. All of the other appearances of the Disney Babies I
have seen were either on TV commericals for diapers and baby products
or in the form of story & activity books, nursery furniture and accessories,
and children's apparel. These avenues did utilize Horace & Clarabelle
quite frequently.
>You didn't mention baby Gus, who often appeared in the series.
You are correct... I did forget him... He is there among all the other
babies in American products as well.
>By the
>way, Claude Marin wanted to create a "be'be' Patibulette" (the female
>version of baby Pete), but this was rejected (while the gags are good!).
>(More info about this on Didier Ghez's site - the Claude Marin interview
>- at http://www.pizarro.net/didier).
I checked Didier's page for any mention of Claude Marin to no avail. :-(
Can you give me the specific URL where I can find the information?
>I can add that several sketchs with Patibulette were published in the
>Journal de Mickey in 1997.
I would LOVE to see Patibulette... as well as Gladstone whereever that
might be possible. Can you point me in the right direction or send me
a couple of scans?? Please.
BTW, would Patibulette roughly correspond to Pete's roguish girlfriend,
Trudy (Scarpa's creation)? And aside from these two, and the others
I already mentioned, were there any other Babies created for the series?
Also, I have several examples of the Disney Babies on my own website,
illustrations located under each character's profile, as well as on the Disney
Television Animation page. I would like to add Gladstone (at least) to
this site.
Thank you for your help.
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Soeren Krarup Olesen
Junkville Journal
Message 7 -
1998-04-02 at 02:27:24
Donald D. Markstein wrote:
> It lasted two issues before they came to an
> "agreement" with Disney. Details of the agreement were never made
> public, but my guess is, Malibu agreed not to publish any more
> issues or sell more copies of the ones they'd already done, and
> Disney agreed not to grind Malibu into a fine, white powder.
That story is IMO much, *much* more frightening
than Mickey & company let into the public domain!
But I guess that's just the forces of the free market,
showing its nature, isn't it???
S=F8ren
...creeping under his comfortable duvet and pillow...
...nighty nighty capitalism, nighty nighty socialism...
...'morning spring.
> It lasted two issues before they came to an
> "agreement" with Disney. Details of the agreement were never made
> public, but my guess is, Malibu agreed not to publish any more
> issues or sell more copies of the ones they'd already done, and
> Disney agreed not to grind Malibu into a fine, white powder.
That story is IMO much, *much* more frightening
than Mickey & company let into the public domain!
But I guess that's just the forces of the free market,
showing its nature, isn't it???
S=F8ren
...creeping under his comfortable duvet and pillow...
...nighty nighty capitalism, nighty nighty socialism...
...'morning spring.
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Disney comics Digest V98 #90
Message 8 -
1998-04-02 at 11:09:53
FRANCOIS:
>Hachette had various problems with these gags: people at Disney in the
>US (e.g. Greg Crosby), didn't like the idea of showing the Disney
>characters as *babies*. Their argument was: if the Disney characters
>have a past, a *childhood*, then they also have a future, so they will
>eventually die. How could someone put that idea in a Disney story?
Tell that to USA's own Disney Marketing division, which is still
going strong with Disney Babies products of all *other* kinds. (Similar
situation to Hiawatha - you still see this character on videos,
sing-along collections, storybooks, and so on in the USA, but Disney
Publications execs apparently don't allow him to be used in *comics*
within America).
Interestingly, at the time that "Pete's Pacifier" was published,
then-editor Dave Seidman had plans to run other Disney Babies stories.
But he was *only* going to use S-coded ones. I asked him about Claude
Marin and was told that the Burbank office disapproved of the French
pages because they weren't all in pantomime!
Last, Baby Horace and Baby Clarabelle are often seen in Disney
Baby storybooks which I've seen in many American bookshops, although I
must confess I'm unsure if their origins are all American. That
disregarded, Baby Horace looks as much like a bull as like a horse. Also
a lot like Clarabelle's cousin Bertie.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
>Hachette had various problems with these gags: people at Disney in the
>US (e.g. Greg Crosby), didn't like the idea of showing the Disney
>characters as *babies*. Their argument was: if the Disney characters
>have a past, a *childhood*, then they also have a future, so they will
>eventually die. How could someone put that idea in a Disney story?
Tell that to USA's own Disney Marketing division, which is still
going strong with Disney Babies products of all *other* kinds. (Similar
situation to Hiawatha - you still see this character on videos,
sing-along collections, storybooks, and so on in the USA, but Disney
Publications execs apparently don't allow him to be used in *comics*
within America).
Interestingly, at the time that "Pete's Pacifier" was published,
then-editor Dave Seidman had plans to run other Disney Babies stories.
But he was *only* going to use S-coded ones. I asked him about Claude
Marin and was told that the Burbank office disapproved of the French
pages because they weren't all in pantomime!
Last, Baby Horace and Baby Clarabelle are often seen in Disney
Baby storybooks which I've seen in many American bookshops, although I
must confess I'm unsure if their origins are all American. That
disregarded, Baby Horace looks as much like a bull as like a horse. Also
a lot like Clarabelle's cousin Bertie.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Arild
Animals in comics
Message 9 -
1998-04-02 at 17:34:57
Why do so many animals in comics (and films/books) have human personalities?
I'm writing about humanized (right word?) animals for school, and I am very
interested in your opinions. Also, why are these animals so popular, and are
they as popular now as they were before?
Thanx in advance
-Arild
"I think, therefore I am" - Descartes
I'm writing about humanized (right word?) animals for school, and I am very
interested in your opinions. Also, why are these animals so popular, and are
they as popular now as they were before?
Thanx in advance
-Arild
"I think, therefore I am" - Descartes
Shaun Craill
Copyright/ Trademark
Message 10 -
1998-04-02 at 17:52:12
Trademark protection can be applied is some interesting ways these days. If
your product or service has a distinctive sound or smell, these can also be
protected by registered trademarks. Harley Davidson for example have applied
to trademark the distinctive sound of their large capacity V-twin engines to
prevent the competition from copying it.
As Steamboat Willey was one of the first (if not the first) animated short
with an audio track there would seem to be a case for protecting the
character Mickey by sound trademark as well. Mickey's voice is certainly
distinctive enough to be recognisable and unique.
Shaun.
your product or service has a distinctive sound or smell, these can also be
protected by registered trademarks. Harley Davidson for example have applied
to trademark the distinctive sound of their large capacity V-twin engines to
prevent the competition from copying it.
As Steamboat Willey was one of the first (if not the first) animated short
with an audio track there would seem to be a case for protecting the
character Mickey by sound trademark as well. Mickey's voice is certainly
distinctive enough to be recognisable and unique.
Shaun.
Rich Pegasus
Babies and Gladstone Books
Message 11 -
1998-04-02 at 21:34:07
DAVID GERSTEIN says:
> Interestingly, at the time that "Pete's Pacifier" was published=
,
> then-editor Dave Seidman had plans to run other Disney Babies stories=
.> But he was *only* going to use S-coded ones. I asked him about Claude
> Marin and was told that the Burbank office disapproved of the French
> pages because they weren't all in pantomime!
I guess America will NEVER get a chance to see any more of these. =20
That's too bad. I realize they are not geared toward older Disney fans=
,=20
but the one that did appear, while simplistic, was actually a very good=
=20
gag! And these would be a great lure for the very young and their=20
parents to start the next generation of Disney Fans.
> Baby Horace looks as much like a bull as like a horse. Also
> a lot like Clarabelle's cousin Bertie.
I agree. But, while I think Glory-Bee is a better match for Goofy than=
=20
Clarabelle ever was, I still find the cross-special matching of=20
Clarabelle and Horace (cow + horse, respecitively) odd. :-) It would
be nice if someone picked up on the long lost thread from Gottfredson=20
and finally married those two!!!! How many decades have they been=20
engaged now??? I think marrying them would be a lot easier than doing=20
the obvious marriage of Mickey & Minnie (due to the legalities with=20
Disney). This would make for a GREAT 75 year anniversary celebration fo=
r=20
Disney comics in general. But I'm sure Katie would rather see a nice=20
gold nugget mounted on a ring for Goldie as an engagement gift from....=
=20
But I digress...
KATIE QUACKFASTER asks:=20
> Does anyone know if the 1st "prestige" format U$ is out in the US=20
> of A yet? Even if it didn't have a new Don Rosa story in it, I'd
> really like to get my hands on a copy. It was supposed to be out in=20
> March, but now it's April already. :-(
Actually, at least where I live, THREE new offerings from Gladstone=20
finally came out!! Comics usually come out on Wednesdays here in the=20
S.F. bay area.
1. Uncle Scrooge #309
=20
This book does indeed feature the Don Rosa story of the origin of HDL's=
=20
involvement in the Junior Woodchucks (as well as a puppy named "Major=20
Snozzie") in =93W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N.=94
2. Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #624
Concerning WDC#309 one thing that seemed curious to me about this issue=
=20
is the "Clara Cluck" story which, as Gladstone's own website says, is=20
"The one and only story from the early issues of WDC&S (#34) to feature=
=20
this character..." As far as I know, this comment is not accurate. I=20
know of at least one other tale which prominently featured her from=20
WDC&S #38 where she co-stars with "Panchito" (from The Three Cabelleros=
)=20
as his girlfriend. She is also featured in the *story* called "Thumper=20
Plays the Easter Rabbit" from WDC&S #55. A minor nitpick I have about=20
the way she *looks* in #309 is that, IMHO, her coloring was soooo much=20
better in the older issues of WDC&S where she is shaded in brownish-
orange and yellow, rather than solid dark brown. Though I must confess=20
the ink in the prestige format is better.
I really like the McGreal/Ferioli MM dinosaur tales! And now that
EtaBeta
has made me aware of Basil, Donald's donkey, I'm finding a fresh
interest
in Taliaferro's one-page gags which feature that little guy. :-)
3. The Biggest Big Mickey Mouse (307p @ $30.00)
This was rather disappointing to me. As a Mickey fan I surely hoped=20
that this book would offer something MORE...especially with a title lik=
e
that!!! I hear that this book is a test by Gladstone to see if it sell=
s=20
well. The only problem is that it is purely reprints of Gladstone's=20
earlier "Gladstone Comic Album" books... Blummer! I bought it anyhow=20
and have even recommended it to a couple folks who are interested in=20
seeing classic MM from Gottfredson. Before anyone asks here's what's=20
in it:
"Mickey and Donald in The Seven Ghosts"
"MM at the Bar-None Ranch"
"MM as the Monarch of Medioka"
"MM in Sheriff of Nugget Gulch"
Interspersed throughout are three Goofy one-page gags.
About the nicest, least reprinted feature in the book is a two-page
spread=20
from "The New York Times" about the Monarch of Medioka censorship in=20
Yugoslavia. As I recall, this was printed in an earlier issue of WDC&S=
=20
as well. The book is softback, but does make a nice edition to my=20
bookshelf. I'm not sure that it will attract many longtime Disney fans=
=20
due to it's content, but hopefully new fans will find it a good
purchase...
I get the feeling this book will only prove Gladstone's point that
Mickey=20
is not a good seller, but I feel this book is a BAD gauge for such a
call. =20
It's all reprints of stories (good ones, yes) which have been printed
over=20
and over again.... Why not try printing a book of NEW Mickey Mouse
stories??
..especially the longer Scarpa ones which have NEVER been presented in=
=20
the USA before!! Then see if THAT book sells well.--- HARUMPF! }B^\
BTW, Katie, nice drawings :-)
Rich ((Email removed))
URL: http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
> Interestingly, at the time that "Pete's Pacifier" was published=
,
> then-editor Dave Seidman had plans to run other Disney Babies stories=
.> But he was *only* going to use S-coded ones. I asked him about Claude
> Marin and was told that the Burbank office disapproved of the French
> pages because they weren't all in pantomime!
I guess America will NEVER get a chance to see any more of these. =20
That's too bad. I realize they are not geared toward older Disney fans=
,=20
but the one that did appear, while simplistic, was actually a very good=
=20
gag! And these would be a great lure for the very young and their=20
parents to start the next generation of Disney Fans.
> Baby Horace looks as much like a bull as like a horse. Also
> a lot like Clarabelle's cousin Bertie.
I agree. But, while I think Glory-Bee is a better match for Goofy than=
=20
Clarabelle ever was, I still find the cross-special matching of=20
Clarabelle and Horace (cow + horse, respecitively) odd. :-) It would
be nice if someone picked up on the long lost thread from Gottfredson=20
and finally married those two!!!! How many decades have they been=20
engaged now??? I think marrying them would be a lot easier than doing=20
the obvious marriage of Mickey & Minnie (due to the legalities with=20
Disney). This would make for a GREAT 75 year anniversary celebration fo=
r=20
Disney comics in general. But I'm sure Katie would rather see a nice=20
gold nugget mounted on a ring for Goldie as an engagement gift from....=
=20
But I digress...
KATIE QUACKFASTER asks:=20
> Does anyone know if the 1st "prestige" format U$ is out in the US=20
> of A yet? Even if it didn't have a new Don Rosa story in it, I'd
> really like to get my hands on a copy. It was supposed to be out in=20
> March, but now it's April already. :-(
Actually, at least where I live, THREE new offerings from Gladstone=20
finally came out!! Comics usually come out on Wednesdays here in the=20
S.F. bay area.
1. Uncle Scrooge #309
=20
This book does indeed feature the Don Rosa story of the origin of HDL's=
=20
involvement in the Junior Woodchucks (as well as a puppy named "Major=20
Snozzie") in =93W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N.=94
2. Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #624
Concerning WDC#309 one thing that seemed curious to me about this issue=
=20
is the "Clara Cluck" story which, as Gladstone's own website says, is=20
"The one and only story from the early issues of WDC&S (#34) to feature=
=20
this character..." As far as I know, this comment is not accurate. I=20
know of at least one other tale which prominently featured her from=20
WDC&S #38 where she co-stars with "Panchito" (from The Three Cabelleros=
)=20
as his girlfriend. She is also featured in the *story* called "Thumper=20
Plays the Easter Rabbit" from WDC&S #55. A minor nitpick I have about=20
the way she *looks* in #309 is that, IMHO, her coloring was soooo much=20
better in the older issues of WDC&S where she is shaded in brownish-
orange and yellow, rather than solid dark brown. Though I must confess=20
the ink in the prestige format is better.
I really like the McGreal/Ferioli MM dinosaur tales! And now that
EtaBeta
has made me aware of Basil, Donald's donkey, I'm finding a fresh
interest
in Taliaferro's one-page gags which feature that little guy. :-)
3. The Biggest Big Mickey Mouse (307p @ $30.00)
This was rather disappointing to me. As a Mickey fan I surely hoped=20
that this book would offer something MORE...especially with a title lik=
e
that!!! I hear that this book is a test by Gladstone to see if it sell=
s=20
well. The only problem is that it is purely reprints of Gladstone's=20
earlier "Gladstone Comic Album" books... Blummer! I bought it anyhow=20
and have even recommended it to a couple folks who are interested in=20
seeing classic MM from Gottfredson. Before anyone asks here's what's=20
in it:
"Mickey and Donald in The Seven Ghosts"
"MM at the Bar-None Ranch"
"MM as the Monarch of Medioka"
"MM in Sheriff of Nugget Gulch"
Interspersed throughout are three Goofy one-page gags.
About the nicest, least reprinted feature in the book is a two-page
spread=20
from "The New York Times" about the Monarch of Medioka censorship in=20
Yugoslavia. As I recall, this was printed in an earlier issue of WDC&S=
=20
as well. The book is softback, but does make a nice edition to my=20
bookshelf. I'm not sure that it will attract many longtime Disney fans=
=20
due to it's content, but hopefully new fans will find it a good
purchase...
I get the feeling this book will only prove Gladstone's point that
Mickey=20
is not a good seller, but I feel this book is a BAD gauge for such a
call. =20
It's all reprints of stories (good ones, yes) which have been printed
over=20
and over again.... Why not try printing a book of NEW Mickey Mouse
stories??
..especially the longer Scarpa ones which have NEVER been presented in=
=20
the USA before!! Then see if THAT book sells well.--- HARUMPF! }B^\
BTW, Katie, nice drawings :-)
Rich ((Email removed))
URL: http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Katie Sullivan
Uh oh, it's that weird girl and her drawings again...
Message 12 -
1998-04-03 at 01:25:59
Hi, everyone!
Does anyone know if the 1st "prestige" format U$ is out in the US of A
yet? Even if it didn't have a new Don Rosa story in it, I'd really like
to get my hands on a copy. It was supposed to be out in March, but now
it's April already. :-(
I have two new pictures I drew online, and neither is a portrait of
Goldie in a fancy dress! Imagine that! Gasp!
[End self-mocking] ;-)
This one is of Scrooge serenading Goldie aboard a gondola. They're not
on an ordinary lake, however!
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/Duckburg/gondola.jpg
The second picture is actually in a comic book format, a first for me.
(At least, the first I've liked well enough to publish on the Net.)
(And, yes, Thomas, I was inspired by the drawing you e-mailed me about
for Der Donaldlist. Hope to see it in my mailbox! :-)
Yes, it has Goldie in it, but also plenty of Scrooge. It's just a short
one-page gag, but for the sake of keeping the image quality, I had to
keep it fairly large when I scanned it. Slow modems beware.
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/Duckburg/bargain.jpg
Feedback welcome!
Bye!
Katie
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #91
*****************************************
Does anyone know if the 1st "prestige" format U$ is out in the US of A
yet? Even if it didn't have a new Don Rosa story in it, I'd really like
to get my hands on a copy. It was supposed to be out in March, but now
it's April already. :-(
I have two new pictures I drew online, and neither is a portrait of
Goldie in a fancy dress! Imagine that! Gasp!
[End self-mocking] ;-)
This one is of Scrooge serenading Goldie aboard a gondola. They're not
on an ordinary lake, however!
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/Duckburg/gondola.jpg
The second picture is actually in a comic book format, a first for me.
(At least, the first I've liked well enough to publish on the Net.)
(And, yes, Thomas, I was inspired by the drawing you e-mailed me about
for Der Donaldlist. Hope to see it in my mailbox! :-)
Yes, it has Goldie in it, but also plenty of Scrooge. It's just a short
one-page gag, but for the sake of keeping the image quality, I had to
keep it fairly large when I scanned it. Slow modems beware.
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/Duckburg/bargain.jpg
Feedback welcome!
Bye!
Katie
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #91
*****************************************
Kfitz
Disney comics Digest V98 #138
Message 13 -
1998-04-03 at 01:26:40
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Hello!
During Gladstone's first run, I believe - or it could have even been by Bob
Foster during Disney's run - there was a two page essay on Van Horn, but I
cannot remember what issue of which comic line. I will come across it soon
in my rereading and will post where it is then. Sorry to be vague, it is
too bad they could not have used that essay. I mostly remember that Van
Horn once worked as a sheep dog for a while.
Kathy
> Chris Barat:
>
> >But oh, how I wish there could have been a one or two-page essay on Van
Horn,
> >the man and his work.
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Hello!
During Gladstone's first run, I believe - or it could have even been by Bob
Foster during Disney's run - there was a two page essay on Van Horn, but I
cannot remember what issue of which comic line. I will come across it soon
in my rereading and will post where it is then. Sorry to be vague, it is
too bad they could not have used that essay. I mostly remember that Van
Horn once worked as a sheep dog for a while.
Kathy
> Chris Barat:
>
> >But oh, how I wish there could have been a one or two-page essay on Van
Horn,
> >the man and his work.
D Decker
Uh oh, it's that weird girl and her drawings again...
Message 14 -
1998-04-03 at 01:38:26
On Apr 2, 4:25pm, Miss Quackfaster quickly quacked:
> Subject: Uh oh, it's that weird girl and her drawings again...
> Hi, everyone!
>
> Does anyone know if the 1st "prestige" format U$ is out in the US of A
> yet? Even if it didn't have a new Don Rosa story in it, I'd really like
> to get my hands on a copy. It was supposed to be out in March, but now
> it's April already. :-(
>
Mine showed up at my local comics shop just yesterday (and Prescott's just down
the road a piece from me), so evidently it was a bit on the late side.
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Uh oh, it's that weird girl and her drawings again...
> Hi, everyone!
>
> Does anyone know if the 1st "prestige" format U$ is out in the US of A
> yet? Even if it didn't have a new Don Rosa story in it, I'd really like
> to get my hands on a copy. It was supposed to be out in March, but now
> it's April already. :-(
>
Mine showed up at my local comics shop just yesterday (and Prescott's just down
the road a piece from me), so evidently it was a bit on the late side.
--Dwight Decker
Garbageman
Disney comics Digest V98 #91
Message 15 -
1998-04-03 at 01:42:08
KATIE:
UNCLE SCROOGE #309 came out on the first of April, along with WDC&S #624,
and that "Biggest Big Mickey Mouse" album.
It's quite nice! I can't afford it right now, but it's nice none the less!
:)
-Shaun
Fortuna Favet Fortibus
UNCLE SCROOGE #309 came out on the first of April, along with WDC&S #624,
and that "Biggest Big Mickey Mouse" album.
It's quite nice! I can't afford it right now, but it's nice none the less!
:)
-Shaun
Fortuna Favet Fortibus