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Hello everybody, I'm back!

VIDAR on S 74266

That's Marco Rota indeed. The story was published in Italy on
"Almanacco Topolino" #233 , 1/5/76 , with the title "Zio Paperone
e il tesoro delle Ande".
A reprint on "Zio Paperone" #88 , 1/97 , bears the code I-233.

The DcD reference is

S 74266 24 3 MRt US Rdk:- p=E5 skattejagt

but the ZP reprint is 18 pages in 4x2 layout... now, which came
first ?

On a slightly different subject, I just finished browsing through
a few weeks worth of digests, and I couldn't find many comments on
the discovery of an unknown Scarpa one-pager by DAVID.

It's just amazing... if it isn't Scarpa (which seems very unlikely),
well... I would like to know who it is...
LUCA ? ALBERTO ? What do you think about it ?

Cheers

Eta Beta

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"It is impossible to enjoy idling thoroughly, unless
one has plenty of work to do."
(Jerome K. Jerome)
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #104
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OLE:

>>better be careful with any wisecracks about Swedes... you should know, of
>>course, that these jokes really are about Norwegians!
>
>I didn't REPEAT any of them, but I did make up the theory that
>Swedish-people jokes aren't considered funny in Sweden.
>I recognize some of them as those that were popular about people
>from Aarhus a while ago. They are quite generic derogative jokes
>about stupid people. Sorry, I mean "intellectually challenged".

Of course... no hard feelings ever intended. Maybe I should have put in
those little "joke signs" people seem to like so much... like :-)))))))) or
whatever...

I wouldn't want to risk drifting off-topic, otherwise I'd ask you if you
Danes didn't use to tell jokes about "Molboer" in the old days?

>Malmo? That's really a province of Denmark AFAIK.

This might surprise you, but as a native Stockholmer, I'm bound to agree!
Despite having lived here (for purely professional Donaldistic reasons) for
12 years, deep down in my heart I still understand the view shared by many
of my former countrymen up north... that Danes (and Scanians) might in fact
be as "challenged" as Norwegians...

:-)))))))))!!!!!!!

>In fact I'm
>thinking of going to the (comic)book fair in Goteborg/Gothenburg -

Please do! We'll be there. Just don't talk to us in Danish, as we wouldn't
understand a word...

:-)))))))))!!!!!!!!!!

Stefan Dios
Malmo, Scania
Sweden (Denmark?)

>From: "Fluks, H.W."
>DON:
>Glad to see you've found the time again to write with us.

Well, I never stopped reading. But no one has asked any questions for me to
answer, so I kept my yap shut.
But I had long ago decided to stop "lurking". The person whose strange
attitudes made me think it was impossible to be here without anything I
said, or even my mere presence, irritating or suppressing someone seemed to
soon thereafter reveal some sort of contact and voluntary promotional
efforts (at the same time he had reamed me out) with just the people who
would LOVE to see me not be such a public figure or so open with comic
readers. So I figgered that's too weird, heck on 'em, I'm NOT outta here
after all.

>Your stories are so accurate, that it becomes a sport to find the
>inaccuracies! Noone bothers to criticise the use of a Barks fact in a
>story where Scrooge and his brother Gyro are conquering Duckburg from
>the Greek in 1850.

Oh, yeah, I know that. My style invites that. And I love it. I just spent
yesterday as another of my days-off-to-answer-fanmail (35 letters wrote and
sent... not bad)... and one writer from Sweden was still trying to point out
mistakes in my physics in "Cash Flow", a story I did in 1987! But I love to
talk/jovially-argue about that stuff! That's why I'm here.
But what I was referring to in my previous message was not how I am
scrutinized by Duckfans... that's fine... it's how I am attacked by two
extremes on almost every issue. One fan will say I go too far and the other
will say I don't go half far enough. And they both will resent that I won't
do it their way. (Or I was assuming there were more bizarrely resentful
people than I am now hoping there really are.)

>Hm... not very likely, since HDL *think* of the fort in a big thinking
>balloon, and they wouldn't do that to egg on U$...

Sure they would! That just shows you how WELL Woodchucks are trained!

Anyway... yes, if I am "back from lurking", I should lay down some ground
rules. As I always used to say, I am here only to *answer questions*. But I
am not here to accept either praise or criticism because it is IMPOSSIBLE
for me to deal with either one in a forum where different sorts of
personalities have all manner of reactions to that.
If I am praised, naturally I won't respond, since that would seem conceited
to someone. But ignoring the praise will seem arrogant to another. And when
I do get praised, someone else claims that squelches his freedom of speech
because he thinks I am here to be *only* praised, as if I can control what
anyone says, or would want to.
If I am criticised, naturally I will never argue the point, because someone
will think that is arrogant. But I also found that if I thank the person for
the critique and beg their pardon for my failings, someone will think I'm
being arrogant and not caring what anyone says because I won't immediately
change the error of my ways or *won't* argue the point. And I also found
that if I simply ignore the criticism, or not respond quite as fast as
someone thinks I should, I am publicly reamed out as arrogant on that count.
So... obviously there's NO solution other than for me to NOT be here,
period... because whatever I do, or by my mere presence, someone will get
their nose outta joint. Well, no, the other solution is that I BE here and
do what I think I need to do, and say what I think I need to say, and tell
those "someone"s to just *deal with it*.
So, that's the first of the things that I think I need to say... "deal with
it, someones!"

Well, I must admit, that, over time I have grown more and more fond of the
"Duck Family." I think my earlier bitterness toward them was the constant
rerereprinting of the same stories, and the minimizing of Mickey's presence
in Disney comics, as preptrated by Gladstone (the publishing Co., not Donald's
cousin) :-). Anyhow, I think a combination of fresh exposure to ideas flowing
in THIS forum, DuckTales cartoons, learning new and fascinating stuff from
non-Americans (especially my recent exposure to lots of Italian, Brazilian,
Danish and French Disney material which has never seen the light of day in
the U.S.A., and most assuredly, having Dinsey personalities right here on-line
who are not appalled by fan exposure. I still enjoy Mickey more than Donald,
but, there is far more Duck stuff in the world than Mouse stuff (or so it
seems),
and I think I have a more balanced appreciation now. Gee, and it only took
a little
more than a year to turn over this leaf. :-)

That having been said, and knowing Don Rosa doesn't really want to be praised
on-line, I'll just say I've found much enjoyment in reading Don's work, and
appreciate his attempts to bring a little order in everyone's favorite
waddlers.
Being interested in geneology, having studied my own, and having obsessed
over Greek & Roman Mythical geneologies as well, I find I really enjoy the Duck
Family Trees as well.

Don, you say you're here to answer questions, well, I'm curious about
something.
Now that I many of my new Italian Disney friends have aquainted me with Romano
Scarpa's work, and I have learn to love it as well, I'm curious how you
feel his
vision of Donald, Scrooge and the Duck clan fit in the world you express in
your
stories? I know that Scarpa, Barks, van Horn and others may all have different
interpretations, but it seem that you use Barks as a baseline for your
understanding
of the Duck relations, and apparently, so did Scarpa. I've learned of the
strained
relationship between Scrooge and his *brother* Gideon, and find it
fascinating. Do
you think you will ever introduce Gideon into your Duck mythos? I'm sure that
you could craft a tale explaining his whereabouts in your Lo$ if you
desired, and
as fans I think we could handle any perceived ret-conning. So I guess my
questions
are really:

1. What do you think of Scarpa's vision of the Ducks, and how do they, if
at all, fit
in the Duck universe as you perceive it?

2. Do you have any plans to bring Gideon McDuck, Scrooge's brother in Scarpa's
tales (a tradition continued by other popular Italian writers & artists
today)
into your vision of the Dick Universe in any form?

3. Will you ever write the story you eluded to a while back concerning
Huey, Dewey
& Louie's father? I don't know about other fans, but I would really
like to see it!

4. Perhaps you can help me understand the familial relationship between
Donald and
Daisy? From what I can tell from reading other duck stories, Daisy is
definitely
Donald's cousin (distant perhaps), but apparently her brother married
Donald's
sister Della (right?) which explains why HD&L call her Aunt Daisy, and
in Bark's
tale ("flippism") April, May & June are introduced as (perhaps) Daisy's
sister's
children, so Daisy must have at least one brother and one sister who
have never
been seen. Can you make any more sense out of that? A curious side
note would
seem to imply that *triplets* are a genetic trait in Daisy's family, so
if she and
Donald were to ever marry and procreate...at least he's had plenty of
experience.

Thank you.

-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html

Just had to add my 2 cents worth and say how great it is for you to be
an active part of the mailing list again, Don! These months you were
just lurking the list just wasn't the same!
I think I and most other people on the list would really like to hear
about what stories you have been working on, what stories you are
thinking of doing, etc. Actually *anything* you want to write about is
OK with me!

Dean Rekich

>From: Francois
>Did you see that part of the drawing you did for the last issue of
>"Picsou" (an illustration of "the Son of the Sun") was partly covered by
>a green thing, which is supposed to be an ad for the new (silly) movie
>"The Flubber"? That's a shame.

Yeah, I noticed that. Ah, well. They didn't cover too much. And it might
prevent another publisher from directly copying that page and using it.
PICSOU wants those "pin-up" pages of mine to be exclusively for them... but
that is not possible in the Disney system... and licensed publisher who
wants to use their or my work can do so for free without our permission, as
part of their license. So, what I simply told PICSOU was that the best I
could do was that *I* wouldn't tell other publishers about the pages. But
they already know about them, as I've seen them already "swiped" and used in
other countries. Ah, for the impossible dream of royalties......
The worst thing is to see something I did touched by something from that
"Flubber" movie. "The Absent-Minded Professor" is one of my favorite Disney
films... and to see a remake made by that maker of
dumb-films-for-dumb-children, John Hughes, is more than I can stand. Ecch.
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>From: Mikko Pohjola
>Glad to see you back on the list again! Now that you've made an appearance
>in two digests in a row, I can not but suppose that you are subconsciously
>aware that you haven't been spending enough time in Internet of late.

!?!?!?! You must be nuts! I spend about 3 or 4 hours on the #$%@& Internet
every day!!! *You* should have my e-mail! Those 34 letters I mentioned
answering were only "snail"mail. Most of my mail is now e-mail... and thank
gosh for that... it's so much quicker and easier to answer. (And *cheaper*!
It will cost me about $25 to send those "snail"mail replies, plus several
extra $5 fees to send some signed comics and so forth. But I figger that's
part of my job expenses if I want to be doing this.)

>To
>take cruel advantage of your situation I dare ask: What've you been up to
>lately?

I finished that "Lo$" 1883-Java story, then took a promotional trip to
Sweden and Finland. When I returned, I've spent the past 3 weeks doing some
odds and ends including most of that time spent drawing and coloring
hundreds and hundreds more (moooaaaannn) of those tip-in title-pages for the
Gladstone limited-edition "Lo$" hardback. And there are still about 140 MORE
full-color double-figure pages to yet draw for that book! It's like a bad
dream! I'll get back to more of those later. Last weekend I was in San
Francisco/Oakland for WonderCon (I took them a full-color, full-size
re-creation of the cover of U$ #300 for their charity auction, and it
garnered the best price of the auction items... one grand!) and spent the
weekend doing full-color drawings for fans, the sort I can never do in
Europe where too many people want stuff. Got back Monday, answered mail
Tuesday, yesterday and today I did another pin-up page for PICSOU (Two days
for one drawing. I'm too slow for this stuff to pay well... I should just do
private commissions if I can get a GRAND a piece... that'd be lots more than
I can make with comic work... but I'd rather be telling stories than be
doing single scenes for single people to see.) And so, to those ends,
tomorrow I start on the next story, being sortuva modern-day "sequel" to my
" Vigilante of Pizen Bluff", being $crooge's search for the Lost Dutchman
Mine.
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>From: (Email removed) (Marc Chapman)
> I feel =
>strongly that the most important thing is the quality of the stories =
>produced as a story, and if the author feels that he or she wants to fit =
>the story into a timeline, that's wonderful. But if it doesn't fit, how =
>important is that really?

Not important at all. Nobody is forcing any writers to fit any stories into
any timelines, nor forcing anyone to read and/or enjoy all the stories by
all the writers. So it doesn't matter.

> Taking this to the extreme, over a long =
>period of time the 1950s will be filled with Scrooge stories and there =
>will be no chunk left to fit another story.

??? Why? If someone *does*, for his own amusement, choose to set all his
stories in one timeframe (like I do), I can fit an infinite number in that
frame. You must be making an analogy that I'm not catching...?

>I feel that issues such as these need to be kept in perspective.

As I said above, these issues are kept in the widest possible perspective,
as far as I can tell. It's all a matter of taste and free-will. Nobody
forces their beliefs on anyone else or wants to (well, except the Religious
Right).

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Rich:

> there is far more Duck stuff in the world than Mouse stuff (or so it
> seems)

Looking at the Database, Donald occurs over 25,000 times, while Mickey
occurs almost 16,000 times. And there are about 50 registered cases
where the two star together in a story...

>2. Do you have any plans to bring Gideon McDuck, Scrooge's brother in
>Scarpa's
> tales
> into your vision of the Dick Universe in any form?

A Freudian typo? 8-)

--Harry.