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Katie Sullivan
Despite the subject line, this is very much on-topic. Please, please,
check out what I think is the best picture I've ever drawn at
http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/Duckburg/titanic.jpg
It's my Scrooge-esque spoof of the hot movie Titanic, and its most
famous scene. It was drawn in pencil, scanned and colored on the
computer. Hope you all get a kick out of it!

Katie Quackfaster
:-)

"I don't know about you, but I'm going to write a very strongly-worded
letter to the White Star Line about this" ~ Jack Dawson, Titanic

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Don Rosa
>>>>>>>>>>>>From: Markoff <(Email removed)>
Subject: UNCLE SCROOGE 309
"WHADALOTTAJARGON" (periods omitted) is the highlight of the issue, in case
anyone hadn't figured that out.
One thing I couldn't figure out, though, is--where does this story fit into
the Rosa "timeline"? Obviously it comes somewhere between "Life of Scrooge
12" which is set in 1947, and before most of Rosa's present-day stories,
which show HDL as JWs (including "A Little Something Special" set in 1952).
1948 is the closest I can figure, for what it's worrth to all really strict
Rosa chronologists.

Well, you're not supposed to place any of these stories in *precise*
years... just a 1950s jumble. But I guess "Something Special" would have to
be in 1952. I figured "WHADALOTTAJARGON" was happening right after chapter
12 of the "Lo$", putting it in, yeah, early 1948 *IF* you had to stick a
year on it. But it's still hard to figure out how HDL could still be brats
after having already met U$ since they didn't seem that way in that chapter
12. Maybe they were on really good behavior that day? I maybe should have
left $crooge out of "WHADALOTTAJARGON" so that the flashback could be
happening prior to chapter 12 of "Lo$", but I can't resist having $crooge as
the key figure in *any* bit of Duckburg history. But you did notice that I
drew HD&L younger in the flashback than in the framing sequence? If you
measure them, their heads were bigger (i.e. younger/"cuter").
Poul S. Frøkjær
Short notice: On April 7th there was a commercial on the Danish National TV (DR1) for ANDERS AND & CO. At the end of it, it was announced: "This week with a Classic Carl Barks story" (A cold Bargain, US 17).

-Wonder what old Carl would have said if someone had told him back in the 50s that one day his name would be used in TV commercials to help selling Disney comics...

And by the way... -Disneys name was not mentioned even once. Only Carl Barks´.

I think this shows how big Unca Carl is getting.

Poul Frokjar

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Marco Barlotti
VIDAR:

>In the database the story S74266 "Paa skattejagt"
>(Treasurehunting), Marco Rota is listed to artist,
>but it doesn't look like the other stories by him I've read. Can
>anybody tell me whether Rota _is_ the artist or not?

My list of S-coded stories by Italian artists does indeed credit S 74266 to
Marco Rota, but I probably got the wrong story. My story deals with lumber
disappearing and appearing, and there's no treasure hunt. Can anybody
recognize THAT story?

Marco Rota has drawn a D-coded story (written by Jacobsen according to
Fossati) which deals with a hunt for an UNDERWATER treasure. That is D 5480.

Can you describe that S 74266 ? Does it have Rockerduck in it, and a country
similar to Transilvanya? In such a case it would be an S-coded story drawn
by SCARPA which of course would make it VERY different from Rota's style!

Marco
Don Rosa
>From: "Fluks, H.W." Subject: Rosa chronology
>Rosa's chronology isn't consistent with Barks' on this point.

This is another example of why I have trouble trying to deal with Duckfans
on these forums. I'll be criticized for the fact that I am interjecting a
chronology into Barks' stories which never existed, and simultaneously that
I am not being consistent with Barks' chronology; or that I am taking Barks'
stories too seriously by being unwilling to change a single fact, and that
I've dared to change a single fact! Whatever I do will irritate somebody
somewhere, and the same will happen if I *don't* do it. (No, I'm not
referring to Harry... just giving a silly example of the Catch 22 I'm in.)

>The whole
>thing about Fort Duckburg is *unknown* to the newphews when Scrooge
>tells them about it in "The Money Well" in U$ 21 (which is way after HDL
>joined the Junior Woodchucks). But in Lo$ chapter 12, as well as in
>"WHADA...", the fort is treated as a well-known fact!

But you see in that story that the nephews then seemed to know EVERYTHING
about that old fort, such as the existance of an escape tunnel and where it
was. Perhaps they were egging on Unca $crooge to help him think of an answer
to his Beagle Boy problem and let him think it was all *his* idea. And...
maybe the nephews also knew it was necessary for $crooge to do that history
recap for the readers, and they were simply acting interested to be polite
to their elders, as good Woodchucks are taught to do. Hm? (Now I'll sit back
and see whom I've upset or otherwise vexed with that tongue-in-cheek
explanation of my methodologies. "Waugh! Don Rosa was vaguely sarcastic and
didn't do and say everything exactly the way I like it!")
Francois Willot
Per-Erik:

Wait... the first page of the story on your web page is identical to
page one of the "Def/tective agency !" as published in Disney comics p.
80, and credited to Wilfred Haughton (from the English MM Weekly).

So it's more a reprint of an English story, than a Swedish story.

Francois
Per-Erik Malmström
FRANCOIS:
> Wait... the first page of the story on your web page is identical to
> page one of the "Def/tective agency !" as published in Disney comics p.
> 80, and credited to Wilfred Haughton (from the English MM Weekly).

Sad news!!

I have an extract from a book in which the author has written:

"The Disney comics where written by Roland Romell and drawn by Birger
Allernas, Lars Bylund and sometimes with a little help from Ake Skiold."

The author, Ebbe Zetterstad had probably done a lot of research before he
wrote the book, and now you proved him wrong.
I hoped(and thought) David's suspitions about the story being English were
wrong--but obviously they weren't;-(

This brings up another interesting subject: the other Disney comics in
Musse Pigg Tidningen. Were they too made in another country? Maybe there
are no Swedish-produced Disney comics?

Best Wishes
Per-Erik
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Fluks, H.W.
DON:
Glad to see you've found the time again to write with us.

I wrote:
> Rosa's chronology isn't consistent with Barks' on this point.

And you replied:
> This is another example of why I have trouble trying to deal with
> Duckfans on these forums.

Your stories are so accurate, that it becomes a sport to find the
inaccuracies! Noone bothers to criticise the use of a Barks fact in a
story where Scrooge and his brother Gyro are conquering Duckburg from
the Greek in 1850.

["The Money Well" in U$ 21]
> But you see in that story that the nephews then seemed to know EVERYTHING
> about that old fort, such as the existance of an escape tunnel and where it
> was. Perhaps they were egging on Unca $crooge to help him think of an answer
> to his Beagle Boy problem and let him think it was all *his* idea.

Hm... not very likely, since HDL *think* of the fort in a big thinking
balloon, and they wouldn't do that to egg on U$...

--Harry.
(Likes needless and irritating details)
Vidar Svendsen
Marco:

>Marco Rota has drawn a D-coded story (written by Jacobsen according to
>Fossati) which deals with a hunt for an UNDERWATER treasure. That is D 5480.

I know that story.

>Can you describe that S 74266 ? Does it have Rockerduck in it, and a country
>similar to Transilvanya? In such a case it would be an S-coded story drawn
>by SCARPA which of course would make it VERY different from Rota's style!

Yes, John D. Rockerduck is in it. Scrooge & co are going to the Andes Mountains
because Scrooge has seen an arrow on the TV. Rockerduck follows them in a
Zeppeliner 'till they find a treasure, which they have to transfer to the govt.
I've put a scan of page four at
http://home.sol.no/~vidasven/s74266.jpg
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven

"The good Lord set definite limits
on man's wisdom,
but set no limit to his stupidity
- and that's just not fair."
M. Mitchell Marmel
At 7:54 AM -0400 4/21/98, Don Rosa wrote:
>(Now I'll sit back
>and see whom I've upset or otherwise vexed with that tongue-in-cheek
>explanation of my methodologies. "Waugh! Don Rosa was vaguely sarcastic and
>didn't do and say everything exactly the way I like it!")

Heck, I'm just glad to see y'all piping up on the list; it's been kinda
slow of late. :)

-MMM-
Ole R. Nielsen
SHAUN:
>Is the Norwegian comic exactly the same as the Danish Anders And?
>If it is a different comic I'd love to get a copy!

Except for the language, they are the same - at least I think so,
though for that reason I gave up subscribing to the Norwegian edition a
while ago. But I assume this is different enough, so I'll get hold of a
copy for you.

And if Shaun's fan club in Sweden is interested too, let me know.

STEFAN:
O>The jokes about Swedes go through unedited apparently. That also
O>explains why Swedish Kalle Anka is still edited in Stockholm...

>Actually, Ole, we're right here in Malmo... closer than you think, so you
>better be careful with any wisecracks about Swedes... you should know, of
>course, that these jokes really are about Norwegians!

I didn't REPEAT any of them, but I did make up the theory that
Swedish-people jokes aren't considered funny in Sweden.
I recognize some of them as those that were popular about people
from Aarhus a while ago. They are quite generic derogative jokes
about stupid people. Sorry, I mean "intellectually challenged".

Malmo? That's really a province of Denmark AFAIK. In fact I'm
thinking of going to the (comic)book fair in Goteborg/Gothenburg -
if only to meet other Disney enthusiasts in a place that doesn't
require me to arrange for a passport.

oLe

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Francois Willot
Hi DON, I'm glad to hear you again.

Did you see that part of the drawing you did for the last issue of
"Picsou" (an illustration of "the Son of the Sun") was partly covered by
a green thing, which is supposed to be an ad for the new (silly) movie
"The Flubber"? That's a shame.

Francois
Mikko Pohjola
DON ROSA:

Glad to see you back on the list again! Now that you've made an appearance
in two digests in a row, I can not but suppose that you are subconsciously
aware that you haven't been spending enough time in Internet of late. To
take cruel advantage of your situation I dare ask: What've you been up to
lately? The 'young Scrooge' story is finished, I trust, so what can we
expect after that? (By explaining it here on the list will also save you
the trouble of answering all the private questions like this one giving
you more free time. You can't lose!)

And just to have it said, I don't find it to be your job (or anybody's
job) to keep everybody satisfied as long as you keep us all entertained.
No matter what anybody might think of your righteousness to write a
Scrooge chronology, no one can disagree with the fact that the stories you
create are pretty darn good!

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Edge, Ronald D
>Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 07:54:44 -0400
>From: "Don Rosa" <(Email removed)>

>>From: "Fluks, H.W." Subject: Rosa chronology
>>Rosa's chronology isn't consistent with Barks' on this point.

>This is another example of why I have trouble trying to deal with
Duckfans
>on these forums. I'll be criticized for the fact that I am interjecting
a
>chronology into Barks' stories which never existed, and simultaneously
that
> I am not being consistent with Barks' chronology; or that I am taking
Barks'
>stories too seriously by being unwilling to change a single fact, and
that>

You know, I have been reading duck stories with great joy for nearly 50
years.
One of the great joys in reading them was the succession of creative
ideas
and stories and sheer joy and delight in Donald, the nephews, and
Scrooge
as their adventures lightened my life and widened my horizons and
knowledge
of the world in a delightful, entertaining medium. Comics have been a
life-long
joy to me.

I haven't read the 'superhero' comics, really, since the 50's, even
though I
collected Spider-man till just recently, when I gave up in disgust. One
of the
things that really went wrong with the superhero comics was the
incredibly
convulted and silly attempts to build coherent universes and time lines.
Leading
to multiple revisions of universes to try and keep and attract readers.
Finally
devolving into sheer silliness.

I loved Barks stories, and I love Rosa's stories, because they bring me
that
same joy and adventure and excitment I felt as a child every weekend
when
I stopped at the magazine counter at the Hill's store in North
Birmingham
to pick out the latest Disney comics while my parents did the grocery
shopping.

I sure as heck did not envision watching these medievally pontificating
dissections of
how many angels can dance on the head of pin in Duckburg. I feel like I
should
do the a Saturday Night Live skit a la Captain Kirk at the Star Trek
convention
and remind everyone that we, after all, talking about works of supreme
fantasy
here, not real life.

Of course, the Captain had to give up in that skit, also, and give in to
the
Trekkies, since they could only perceive him as Captain Kirk, not the
real human actor portraying the Captain.

Sigh.

Thanks,
Ron.

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Kriton Kyrimis
HARRY FLUKS:

> Noone bothers to criticise the use of a Barks fact in a
> story where Scrooge and his brother Gyro are conquering Duckburg from
> the Greeks in 1850.

Sounds like a story *I* might have written--I love this kind of humor where
one tries to cram as many innacuracies as possible in just one line!!!
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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