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Eric Chun
Katie wrote:
>Does anyone know if the 1st "prestige" format U$ is out in the US of A
>yet? Even if it didn't have a new Don Rosa story in it, I'd really like
>to get my hands on a copy. It was supposed to be out in March, but now
>it's April already. :-(

Yes, it came out yesterday!

Best,

Eric

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Didier Ghez
Hi,

HARRY:

The precise address of Claude Marin's interview is:
http://www.pizarro.net/didier/_private/interviu/marinan.html

The interviews are not yet on the home page, as I am still actively
building the Disney History Network and that I currently only offer them =
as
a preview of what is to come.

RICH:

There is no illustration on the page, though. I will try, someday, someho=
w
to scan the Gladstone Gander and Pat Hibulette model sheets I have, for
you.

Best.

Didier
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
Fellow Quacks:

I received my subscription copy of PICSOU #315 the other day (a Don Rosa
"special" issue re-printing among other stories his "The Son of the Sun"
with a BRAND-new drawing for that story!). In it, Picsou's editor, Mr.
Pierrey announces the publication on April 10, of a volume printing Rosa's
Lo$, PLUS the 3 chapters that had appeared later: "Of Ducks, and Dimes, and
Destinies", "Hearts of the Yukon" and "The Vigilante of Pizzen Bluff"! All
these, for a total of 292 pages under a single cover! And you haven't heard
the BEST part yet: at the amazing price of 29FF!!!(~$5).

With $5 someone couldn't even buy a single copy of WDC&S!

Cheers,

Archontis
Mathew Hounsell
Hi, I joined the list after I found it on Neosofts pages of lists. I'm an Australian
and a big fan of the ducks, especially Huey, Dewey and Louie (I can't remember how
to spell Huey). I have two questions.

Does any one know if you can get Disney based comics in Oz? I've looked and haven't
found them since Disney stopped publishing their own a while back, when Gladstone
took over again. I miss them.

I found a comic in a shell service station, years ago, (Gladstonne) Donald Duck Adventures
2. A Carl Barks story, I think, one of the few which has humans and ducks. Anyway
I think I've lost it, I would like to know the title. Sorry if this is a bit vague.
It starts out with Donald and HD&L being sent to Europe, for a holiday, they're on
a famous beach. Donald mentions something about spies getting HD&L's curiosity. The
observe some people and see a woman leave something in the sand. It turns out to
be a spies note. They follow her, they're on a train, they are forced to jump off.
The eventually get to the place the female spy is headed and her contact turns out
to look like Donald. So Donald pretends to be her contact. Then he has to fight a
bull to prove he is the contact, a famous matador. It's really good can you please
help me?

Rich (xephyr) saw your page briefly, before Netscape crashed, I like the tinkebell
anamation.

Assuming Animals have human characteristics is Anthropomorphism.

Oh and Kriton your quote:
"But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the Universe..."
"Oh, I do talk sometimes to myself, yes!"
where's it from?
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Nils Lid Hjort
The first Norwegian Disney comics magazine was "Donald Duck & Co.",
starting off as a monthly in December 1948. After some years it
became a twice-a-month magazine and eventually, in the middle of 1958,
the weekly Duck magazine that still is with us today (along with
various not-so-important siblings). As everyone on this list knows
the introduction of DD & Co. in the Scandinavian countries was
a Highly Significant Event with Enormous and Long-Lasting Consequences.

Therefore, by necessity and coincidence, the person responsible for
the text editing, which I guess could mean translations sometimes
from American, sometimes from Swedish or Danish, was an important person.
And in Norway this v.i.p. happened to be Helene C. Kloevstad, with the
most appropriate and reassuring professional title of "laererinne",
the now sadly outdated term for a female teacher. She stayed on as
translator, or at least responsible for the Norwegian texts (these tasks
as not quite equivalent), until the end of 1960, after which another
laererinne, Elisabeth Skaare, took over for a couple of years, followed
from about 1963 on by yet another laererinne, Vivi Aagaard.

And last month Helene Kloevstad died, at the age of 95. Today's
"Aftenposten" brought a touching and nicely-written piece on this,
starting with "Carl Barks is still alive, but his first translator
is not any longer with us" (translating from memory!). It is penned by
(or is it "typed by", these days?) Nils Petter Gleditsch, a well-known
versatile writer on many topics, and a specialist on international
peace research.

One has to ask whether she was a *good* translator. The first generation
of Donaldists in this country used to think so, apparently, and loud
protests were the order of the day if more recent reprints of Barks
stories had been obstreperous enough to change words or sentences.
But a sound and neutral analysis would reveal, imVho, that she was
*not* so good. Choose ten Barks-stories that appeared in DD & Co.
during the fifties, and compare with the original American language.
Generally the Norwegian comes off much more bleakly, with less colour
and imagination. Wordplays, accents, et cetera, are generally not
well translated at all, or simply ignored.

So Helene Kloevstad was no Erika Fuchs. And both Skaare and Aagaard
surpass her, I think it is fair to say, with, for example, beautifully
rendered US 18 (the pygmy indians) and FC 223 (the square eggs)
under their respective belts.

This is not meant as harsh criticism at all. She was a teacher and took
on a job the long-lasting importance of which nobody could guess.
We do not know much about her working conditions, and about what was
really expected of her. One of her expected roles would have been to
"protect" children against dangerous American ideas and expressions,
I would say, guessing from the atmosphere of early fifties in Norway.
She would not have been encouraged to experiment wildly. And perhaps
she would more often than we like to think of be translating further
what was already translated into say Swedish. -- We should neither be
surprised that she was not a burning Donaldist in her heart, and she
did not collect the magazines for herself. Gleditsch got one each month,
of the two she got for free! And at any rate Kloevstad is the person
to thank for coining the names of Skrue, Ole, Dole, Doffen, Langbein,
Fetter Anton, Petter Smart, and several others.

One may speculate a little bit over the fact that her very last
DD & Co. was #53/1960, which contains the wonderful DD 54 story,
"Forbidden Valley". For strange reasons this DD only appeared in
Norway, not in Sweden and Denmark. In the original the opening words
say something about man's biggest struggles having been "against
bugs". But in the Norwegian edition it starts off in an unexpected
and both mysterious and momentous fashion, catching the reader's
attention with a bold, and more centrally positioned, "Since the
beginning of mankind, he has struggled against evil" (again, translating
from 1960-memory, and not necessarily accurately). Perhaps she was
trying to make a tiny little mark on this, "her" last ever DD.

Nils Lid Hjort
Per-Erik Malmström
MATHEW:
>[...] Donald mentions something about spies getting HD&L's curiosity. The
> observe some people and see a woman leave something in the sand. It turns
out to
> be a spies note. They follow her, they're on a train, they are forced to
jump off.
> The eventually get to the place the female spy is headed and her contact
turns out
> to look like Donald. So Donald pretends to be her contact.[..]

Hi and welcome, Mathew!!

The story your talking about, "Dangerous Disguise" is indeed drawn by Carl
Barks. Carl's art editor, Carl Buettner, didn't like the human characters
that Barks used in that story. In fact, he asked Carl (or ordered him) not
to use human characters anymore. I think it would have been fun if he had
let Carl do a few more stories with human charcters, at least it would have
been varying.
I too, think it's a very good story!

Best Wishes
Per-Erik
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Fluks, H.W.
Marco Barlotti wrote:

> ANY TIME there is a difference between
my FSB [Italian index] and the DcD [Disney comics Database]
> you can be sure that the NEXT release of the DcD will
> accept the changes made in the FSB.
> Er... at least until Harry fires me, that is! ;-)

I don't plan to fire you yet... not everything in Italy has been indexed
yet! 8-)

> (a new-improved version of the FSB is
> due around Easter).

And a new version of the DcD one or 2 weeks after that (if we can manage
that...)

--Harry.
(But first, I'm off to Prague for the next 10 days. Anyone who sends me
e-mail won't get an answer before Easter.)
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Cebarat
ARILD asked:

Why do so many animals in comics (and films/books) have human personalities?
I'm writing about humanized (right word?) animals for school, and I am very
interested in your opinions. Also, why are these animals so popular, and are
they as popular now as they were before?

Thanx in advance

-Arild
"I think, therefore I am" - Descartes

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Rich Bellacera
DIDIER:
>The precise address of Claude Marin's interview is:
>http://www.pizarro.net/didier/_private/interviu/marinan.html

Thank you.

>There is no illustration on the page, though. I will try, someday,
>somehow to scan the Gladstone Gander and Pat Hibulette model
>sheets I have, for you.

That will be great, and greatly appreciated.

MATTHEW HOUNSELL:

First: Welcome to the List :-)

>Does any one know if you can get Disney based comics in Oz?

Sorry I can't help out with that one, but I believe there are other
Ozzies here 'bouts.

>Rich (xephyr) saw your page briefly, before Netscape crashed, I
>like the tinkebell anamation.

Thank you. As I do computer animation for a living, I only recently
learned how to do it on the Web. The Tumbling Mickey was my
first attempt, and Tink was the second, the blinking "Hard at Work"
sign is one of my more recent ones, but now I've done several
for my company and think I have the hang of it.

BTW, to those interested, I've streamlined my header pages (The
D-Zone and The HooZoo List) for [hopefully] much faster loading.
And though I've added many more character profiles, I'm preparing
dozens and dozens of new ones. I really appreciate all the guidance,
images and information many of you have contributed.

Please feel free to contribute, critic or correct where ever you see
erroneous or missing information. Thank you.

>Assuming Animals have human characteristics is
>Anthropomorphism.

Yes it is. :-)

-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 98-04-03 22:21:16 EST, you write:

<< but nowhere in the
advertisements, or packaging or promotions could the image or name be used.
Eclipse comics "The Uncensored Mouse" tried to get away with reprinting
what it thought were PD comic strips by putting out books with all black
covers that failed to mention Mickey by name. They got nabbed by Disney's
lawyers when they printed _one_ comic strip that had apparently been
reprinted in a copyrighted book years after it was created, therefore
renewing the copyright long enough to benefit from the 75 year rule -- and
getting caught with one was enough. Eclipse had to cease the title. >>

First this was Eternity (which is now owned by Marvel), Not Eclipse (now owned
by Todd McFarlane). The story I heard is that Diseny stated that the comic
strips, although out of copyright; had strips that were based on the
copyrighted cartoons; therefore the reprint violated the copyright of the
cartoons.

Steven Rowe
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Stefan Persson
Hi there,

For some month ago, I noticed that someone said that Egmont shall write
the authors in Sweden. In the Swedish "Stål-Kalle", this have been
written whole this year!

Stefan Persson, Stockholm, Sweden

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Per-Erik,

> Are you thinking about DESTINATION DUCKBURG that was published in DDA #2
> (Disney), and later republished in WDC&S 549?

This sounds familiar, I am sure it is in this one. It does not address
anyone else, and I am pretty sure Bob Foster wrote it, it seems like he was
very fond of Van Horn's earlier style and apparently later style also.

I will definitely post the issue # when I find it.

Kathy
Kriton Kyrimis
MATHEW HOUNSELL:

> Oh and Kriton your quote:
> "But you have access to the greatest source of knowledge in the Universe..."
> "Oh, I do talk sometimes to myself, yes!"
> where's it from?

It's from a Tom Baker episode of Doctor Who.

> Kirk "I need more power, Mr Scott."
> Scotty "Get me a Junior Woodchuck Guide Book, Ensign"

To get back on topic, where's *that* from?
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Francois Willot
I'm glad Didier gave the exact address for the Claude Marin interview
(with information about the now famous "Patibulette")! I found this
interview at "What's new" - "Claude Marin" (following Didier's
indications), but I see that the links have changed now.

Rich wrote:

>Have these [the Disney babies gags by Marin] ever been compiled into a
>single or a set of books (after their original comic book appearance)
>which can be purchased still?

I know two books like that, but they were published in the 80s and are
hard to find, I'm afraid.

>BTW, would Patibulette roughly correspond to Pete's roguish girlfriend,
>Trudy (Scarpa's creation)?

No, Patibulette was supposed to be a completely new character.

>And aside from these two, and the others I already mentioned, were
>there any other Babies created for the series?

I think not (not in the French database at least).

>I would LOVE to see Patibulette... as well as Gladstone whereever that
>might be possible. Can you point me in the right direction or send me
>a couple of scans?? Please.

Sorry, I haven't any scan for the moment, and I couldn't help you.

I tried to find those sketches of Patibulette in the last JM issues, but
I found nothing ;-(. It's hard to look at all those issues.

David:

> Interestingly, at the time that "Pete's Pacifier" was
>published, then-editor Dave Seidman had plans to run other Disney
>Babies stories. But he was *only* going to use S-coded ones. I asked
>him about Claude Marin and was told that the Burbank office disapproved
>of the French pages because they weren't all in pantomime!

That's right, but pantomine pages are not easy to do. I think it's much
more easier to write Disney babies gags with dialogues. Maybe that's the
reason why they stopped producing S-coded gags?

Francois
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