Can anyone of you tell me what character Bonifacio is, which I've seen once in
a Dominicanian/Columbian issue. Or not seen at all. He was the hero of the
story
B 860064 but only appeared in the last panel hidden between the baggage in the
last
panel. So I don't know his English name.
I've learned in a recent discussion that Ellsworth has a nephew and want to
know how to distuingish them (appearance, character description). Because I
think that
both must have appeared here in Germany but all the Ellsworth like characters
are
named "Maxi" in German and for that I thought all these were Ellsworth.
-- Gilbert
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GMRoser
Characters
Message 136 -
1998-04-25 at 03:11:25
GMRoser
Micky Maus Success
Message 137 -
1998-04-25 at 03:42:50
At the Ehapa-Web-Site at http://www.ehapa.de I found this note which follows
the
translation (poor translation by me)
-- Gilbert
Translation:
The most successful "Micky Maus" of all time!
Service for collectors
The cover of MM 98-10 (note:The cover shows MM and GO as Man in Black) seems
to be a bulls eye. Within only a few days this issue was nearly sold out.
Egmont
Ehapa PR office has saved only 50 copies. You'll have a chance to complete
your
collection or to get hold of a cult object.
The first 50 interested persons who will email either
a) a quite near guess of the sold circulation or
b) an obvious description why he can't live without this issue anymore
gets this issue for free and not binding sent to him.
eMail to: (Email removed)
and don't forget your address.
Original note:
Die erfolgreichste "Micky Maus"
aller Zeiten!
Service für Sammler
Mit dem Titelbild der Micky Maus-Ausgabe Nr. 10 vom 5. März 1998 haben wir
wohl voll ins Schwarze getroffen. Innerhalb von nur wenigen Tagen war das
Magazin nahezu restlos ausverkauft. Gerade mal 50 Exemplare hat die Egmont
Ehapa Pressestelle retten können. Sie haben also noch eine Chance, Ihre
Sammlung zu vervollständigen, bzw. ein Kultobjekt zu ergattern.
Die ersten 50 Interessenten, die per eMail entweder
a) einen Tip abgeben, der der verkauften Gesamtauflage ziemlich nahe kommt,
oder
b) am einleuchtendsten beschreiben, warum sie ohne diese "Micky Maus" nicht
mehr weiterleben können,
erhalten die Ausgabe 10 kostenlos und unverbindlich zugeschickt.
eMail bitte an: (Email removed)
und Absender nicht vergessen !
the
translation (poor translation by me)
-- Gilbert
Translation:
The most successful "Micky Maus" of all time!
Service for collectors
The cover of MM 98-10 (note:The cover shows MM and GO as Man in Black) seems
to be a bulls eye. Within only a few days this issue was nearly sold out.
Egmont
Ehapa PR office has saved only 50 copies. You'll have a chance to complete
your
collection or to get hold of a cult object.
The first 50 interested persons who will email either
a) a quite near guess of the sold circulation or
b) an obvious description why he can't live without this issue anymore
gets this issue for free and not binding sent to him.
eMail to: (Email removed)
and don't forget your address.
Original note:
Die erfolgreichste "Micky Maus"
aller Zeiten!
Service für Sammler
Mit dem Titelbild der Micky Maus-Ausgabe Nr. 10 vom 5. März 1998 haben wir
wohl voll ins Schwarze getroffen. Innerhalb von nur wenigen Tagen war das
Magazin nahezu restlos ausverkauft. Gerade mal 50 Exemplare hat die Egmont
Ehapa Pressestelle retten können. Sie haben also noch eine Chance, Ihre
Sammlung zu vervollständigen, bzw. ein Kultobjekt zu ergattern.
Die ersten 50 Interessenten, die per eMail entweder
a) einen Tip abgeben, der der verkauften Gesamtauflage ziemlich nahe kommt,
oder
b) am einleuchtendsten beschreiben, warum sie ohne diese "Micky Maus" nicht
mehr weiterleben können,
erhalten die Ausgabe 10 kostenlos und unverbindlich zugeschickt.
eMail bitte an: (Email removed)
und Absender nicht vergessen !
SRoweCanoe
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 138 -
1998-04-25 at 05:48:55
In a message dated 98-04-24 20:44:52 EDT, Don wrote:
<< > Taking this to the extreme, over a long =
>>period of time the 1950s will be filled with Scrooge stories and there =
>>will be no chunk left to fit another story.
>??? Why? If someone *does*, for his own amusement, choose to set all his
>stories in one timeframe (like I do), I can fit an infinite number in that
> frame. You must be making an analogy that I'm not catching...? >>
I believe he's thinking that with only 365 days in a year, and only 10 years
in the 50s; how can the ducks do all that stuff. ... If that's the question,
the answer is suspension of disbelief. Or if you insist, on Monday,
the Ducks did WDC&S, Tuesday a Rosa story, wednesday a Uncle Scrooge story,
thrusday a Donald duck story, friday a Dell Giant story, saturday a misc 50s
artist stroy, and on sunday they rested. Plus they have an endless time
machine that loops them around continously in the 50s. Hope this helps.
Steven Rowe
<< > Taking this to the extreme, over a long =
>>period of time the 1950s will be filled with Scrooge stories and there =
>>will be no chunk left to fit another story.
>??? Why? If someone *does*, for his own amusement, choose to set all his
>stories in one timeframe (like I do), I can fit an infinite number in that
> frame. You must be making an analogy that I'm not catching...? >>
I believe he's thinking that with only 365 days in a year, and only 10 years
in the 50s; how can the ducks do all that stuff. ... If that's the question,
the answer is suspension of disbelief. Or if you insist, on Monday,
the Ducks did WDC&S, Tuesday a Rosa story, wednesday a Uncle Scrooge story,
thrusday a Donald duck story, friday a Dell Giant story, saturday a misc 50s
artist stroy, and on sunday they rested. Plus they have an endless time
machine that loops them around continously in the 50s. Hope this helps.
Steven Rowe
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 139 -
1998-04-25 at 09:10:51
>From: Rich Bellacera
>:and knowing Don Rosa doesn't really want to be praised on-line,
Hm? Did I say I don't want to be praised? Who doesn't like being praised? I
just said that I won't respond to it (or criticism) because there's no way
to do either without vexing the many odd personalities out there.
>1. What do you think of Scarpa's vision of the Ducks, and how do they, if
>at all, fit in the Duck universe as you perceive it?
I wish I could skip answering that. I'd heard much about Scarpa, and
(especially his being a "fellow" Italian) I *wanted* to like his work. But
the first stories of his I read, "Colossus of the Nile", "Lentils of
Babylon" and "The Man from (what was it?) Oola-Boola(?)" left me flat. But
then, I have always been another of those hard-headed Barks-only guys. And
Scarpa's art seemed sorta simplistic to the richer style I like (Rota would
be my idea of perfect Duck art, after Barks'). Which Scarpa story should I
read to show me his "vision".
>2. Do you have any plans to bring Gideon McDuck, Scrooge's brother in
Scarpa's
> tales (a tradition continued by other popular Italian writers & artists
>today) into your vision of the Dick Universe in any form?
No, I guess what I've already done in the "Lo$" and my Duck Family Tree
sorta precludes me from adding a brother. And I have made it my (hardheaded)
mission to only regard Barks' stories as canon. So I'll hafta leave Gideon
to other writers' use. (Besides, how could I use Gideon even if I wanted to?
I am not exposed to any of those stories.)
>3. Will you ever write the story you eluded to a while back concerning
>Huey, Dewey & Louie's father? I don't know about other fans, but I would
really
>like to see it!
Me, too! They wouldn't let me do it for their 50th anniversary or their
60th. Maybe I can do it for their 70th? Better still, 75th. That gives me
LOTS of time to think of an acceptable outcome to such a story (which I
haven't yet).
>4. Perhaps you can help me understand the familial relationship between
>Donald and Daisy? From what I can tell from reading other duck stories,
Daisy is
>definitely Donald's cousin
??? Where has it ever said that? His cousin? And also his lover? Is Duckburg
located here in Kentucky?
>but apparently her brother married Donald's sister Della (right?) which
explains why HD&L call her Aunt Daisy,
Well, that's my idea, but it doesn't say that anywhere except in my "private
notes". It wouldn't fit onto my Duck Family Tree.
>in Bark's tale ("flippism") April, May & June are introduced as (perhaps)
Daisy's
>sister's children
That's right.
From: Klirrdibir / Thomas Vorwerk:
>Hi there, I am not a typical Rosa fan and neither a typical Barks fan.
>To use a passable analogy, if Barks were Hitchcock, Rosa would be
>DePalma (in my book),
As a Hitchcock and DePalma fan, I find that to be a flattering and accurate
idea (especially since I see DePalma's work as very enjoyable but often "oh,
this is just TOO much!", just like my own overboardiness. (Oops. Is this
responding to praise?)
>but while DePalma aint as good as Allen or
>Scorsese (make that Gaiman, Moore or similar people),
Nuh-uh! Poor ol' Gaiman and Moore are only writers, not writer/artists.
Hoo-hah! Compare apples to apples. Say, Ware and Aragones? But seriously,
while we're being so crass as to compare "crea-tors", before someone can
point it out to me, I just moments ago notice that the 1997 Eisner Award
nominations are out. The list started out promising to see "A Matter of Some
Gravity" nominated in the first category of "Best Story of the Year". But...
then I *wasn't* nominated in the "Best Writer/Artist - Humor" category. Not
being nominated is okay... but how can the writer/artist of a possible "Best
Story of the Year" (where none of the other nominees had an entry) *not* be
also nominated as "Best Writer/Artist"? That's as odd as the years when the
director of the "Best Movie" at the Academy Awards is not nominated for
"Best Director". Oh, well...
>:and knowing Don Rosa doesn't really want to be praised on-line,
Hm? Did I say I don't want to be praised? Who doesn't like being praised? I
just said that I won't respond to it (or criticism) because there's no way
to do either without vexing the many odd personalities out there.
>1. What do you think of Scarpa's vision of the Ducks, and how do they, if
>at all, fit in the Duck universe as you perceive it?
I wish I could skip answering that. I'd heard much about Scarpa, and
(especially his being a "fellow" Italian) I *wanted* to like his work. But
the first stories of his I read, "Colossus of the Nile", "Lentils of
Babylon" and "The Man from (what was it?) Oola-Boola(?)" left me flat. But
then, I have always been another of those hard-headed Barks-only guys. And
Scarpa's art seemed sorta simplistic to the richer style I like (Rota would
be my idea of perfect Duck art, after Barks'). Which Scarpa story should I
read to show me his "vision".
>2. Do you have any plans to bring Gideon McDuck, Scrooge's brother in
Scarpa's
> tales (a tradition continued by other popular Italian writers & artists
>today) into your vision of the Dick Universe in any form?
No, I guess what I've already done in the "Lo$" and my Duck Family Tree
sorta precludes me from adding a brother. And I have made it my (hardheaded)
mission to only regard Barks' stories as canon. So I'll hafta leave Gideon
to other writers' use. (Besides, how could I use Gideon even if I wanted to?
I am not exposed to any of those stories.)
>3. Will you ever write the story you eluded to a while back concerning
>Huey, Dewey & Louie's father? I don't know about other fans, but I would
really
>like to see it!
Me, too! They wouldn't let me do it for their 50th anniversary or their
60th. Maybe I can do it for their 70th? Better still, 75th. That gives me
LOTS of time to think of an acceptable outcome to such a story (which I
haven't yet).
>4. Perhaps you can help me understand the familial relationship between
>Donald and Daisy? From what I can tell from reading other duck stories,
Daisy is
>definitely Donald's cousin
??? Where has it ever said that? His cousin? And also his lover? Is Duckburg
located here in Kentucky?
>but apparently her brother married Donald's sister Della (right?) which
explains why HD&L call her Aunt Daisy,
Well, that's my idea, but it doesn't say that anywhere except in my "private
notes". It wouldn't fit onto my Duck Family Tree.
>in Bark's tale ("flippism") April, May & June are introduced as (perhaps)
Daisy's
>sister's children
That's right.
From: Klirrdibir / Thomas Vorwerk:
>Hi there, I am not a typical Rosa fan and neither a typical Barks fan.
>To use a passable analogy, if Barks were Hitchcock, Rosa would be
>DePalma (in my book),
As a Hitchcock and DePalma fan, I find that to be a flattering and accurate
idea (especially since I see DePalma's work as very enjoyable but often "oh,
this is just TOO much!", just like my own overboardiness. (Oops. Is this
responding to praise?)
>but while DePalma aint as good as Allen or
>Scorsese (make that Gaiman, Moore or similar people),
Nuh-uh! Poor ol' Gaiman and Moore are only writers, not writer/artists.
Hoo-hah! Compare apples to apples. Say, Ware and Aragones? But seriously,
while we're being so crass as to compare "crea-tors", before someone can
point it out to me, I just moments ago notice that the 1997 Eisner Award
nominations are out. The list started out promising to see "A Matter of Some
Gravity" nominated in the first category of "Best Story of the Year". But...
then I *wasn't* nominated in the "Best Writer/Artist - Humor" category. Not
being nominated is okay... but how can the writer/artist of a possible "Best
Story of the Year" (where none of the other nominees had an entry) *not* be
also nominated as "Best Writer/Artist"? That's as odd as the years when the
director of the "Best Movie" at the Academy Awards is not nominated for
"Best Director". Oh, well...
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 140 -
1998-04-25 at 09:25:30
>From: DeanMary
> I think I and most other people on the list would really like to hear
>about what stories you have been working on, what stories you are
>thinking of doing, etc
Ah. I'm adding a quick note to my posting of minutes ago.
I think I answered these questions in the previous Digest. But this gives me
an opportunity to ask for some help from all the readers of this ML. For my
next story research I would very much like to locate a book titled "THE
STERLING LEGEND" by Estee Conatser. Most recently (1987) it was a paperback,
but a hardback earlier on.
The problem, as always, is that I can't afford TIME when doing such
research... I sorta do it as an "extra", on my own time. So, if anyone wants
to look around their area stores for a copy of this book, I hafta say I need
it as SOON as possible! You'd need to get it and mail it to me within just a
few days, probably during this weekend, or it will be too late to help me.
Sorry to rush you! (I will, of course, reimburse all expenses.)
> I think I and most other people on the list would really like to hear
>about what stories you have been working on, what stories you are
>thinking of doing, etc
Ah. I'm adding a quick note to my posting of minutes ago.
I think I answered these questions in the previous Digest. But this gives me
an opportunity to ask for some help from all the readers of this ML. For my
next story research I would very much like to locate a book titled "THE
STERLING LEGEND" by Estee Conatser. Most recently (1987) it was a paperback,
but a hardback earlier on.
The problem, as always, is that I can't afford TIME when doing such
research... I sorta do it as an "extra", on my own time. So, if anyone wants
to look around their area stores for a copy of this book, I hafta say I need
it as SOON as possible! You'd need to get it and mail it to me within just a
few days, probably during this weekend, or it will be too late to help me.
Sorry to rush you! (I will, of course, reimburse all expenses.)
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 141 -
1998-04-25 at 14:58:39
GILBERT:
>I've learned in a recent discussion that Ellsworth has a nephew and
want to
>know how to distuingish them (appearance, character description).
Because I
>think that
>both must have appeared here in Germany but all the Ellsworth like
characters
>are named "Maxi" in German and for that I thought all these were
Ellsworth.
Hmm... I've noticed Ellsworth - the original Ellsworth - called
Maxi, but I've also seen the name Moses (in LUSTIGE TASCHENBUCH issues).
So at one time, maybe the two had distinct names, but one's been lost?
I think Moses predates Maxi, so maybe Maxi (a name that sounds
like it ought to go for a younger character, anyway) was first used for
the nephew, but later for both characters.
???
IMHO, giving Ellsworth a nephew was one of the few Scarpa
decisions I disagree with. Why was this done, when the two almost never
appear together and when Ellsworth himself is already as rowdy and
rambunctious as any "kid" character?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
>I've learned in a recent discussion that Ellsworth has a nephew and
want to
>know how to distuingish them (appearance, character description).
Because I
>think that
>both must have appeared here in Germany but all the Ellsworth like
characters
>are named "Maxi" in German and for that I thought all these were
Ellsworth.
Hmm... I've noticed Ellsworth - the original Ellsworth - called
Maxi, but I've also seen the name Moses (in LUSTIGE TASCHENBUCH issues).
So at one time, maybe the two had distinct names, but one's been lost?
I think Moses predates Maxi, so maybe Maxi (a name that sounds
like it ought to go for a younger character, anyway) was first used for
the nephew, but later for both characters.
???
IMHO, giving Ellsworth a nephew was one of the few Scarpa
decisions I disagree with. Why was this done, when the two almost never
appear together and when Ellsworth himself is already as rowdy and
rambunctious as any "kid" character?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Eta Beta
V98#105
Message 142 -
1998-04-25 at 18:15:42
VIDAR
>Thank you.
Don't even mention it. :-)
DAVID on that unknown Scarpa one-pager again
>I'm still hoping that Alberto and/or Luca can
>check with Scarpa himself as to when and for whom he really did this
>thing...
Let's wait together, then. I'm just *terribly* curious...
GILBERT
>Can anyone of you tell me what character Bonifacio is...
Some believe he's an original (probably Brazilian) character,
but IMO it's the old "Bertie the Jinx" from WDC&S of Sept. and
Oct. 1943.
>I've learned in a recent discussion that Ellsworth has a nephew and want to
>know how to distuingish them (appearance, character description).
It's probably Ellsworth's adoptive son, Bruto, a character created by
Romano Scarpa.
He's smaller than Ellsworth, with a shorter beak and wears pants and
a baseball cap.
You can learn more on all these characters on Rich Bellacera's page at
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/hzlist.html
An update for Ellsworth and Bruto pages will be probably up as soon as
you read this.
Cheers
Eta Beta
-----------------------------------------------------
"It is impossible to enjoy idling thoroughly, unless
one has plenty of work to do."
(Jerome K. Jerome)
-----------------------------------------------------
>Thank you.
Don't even mention it. :-)
DAVID on that unknown Scarpa one-pager again
>I'm still hoping that Alberto and/or Luca can
>check with Scarpa himself as to when and for whom he really did this
>thing...
Let's wait together, then. I'm just *terribly* curious...
GILBERT
>Can anyone of you tell me what character Bonifacio is...
Some believe he's an original (probably Brazilian) character,
but IMO it's the old "Bertie the Jinx" from WDC&S of Sept. and
Oct. 1943.
>I've learned in a recent discussion that Ellsworth has a nephew and want to
>know how to distuingish them (appearance, character description).
It's probably Ellsworth's adoptive son, Bruto, a character created by
Romano Scarpa.
He's smaller than Ellsworth, with a shorter beak and wears pants and
a baseball cap.
You can learn more on all these characters on Rich Bellacera's page at
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/hzlist.html
An update for Ellsworth and Bruto pages will be probably up as soon as
you read this.
Cheers
Eta Beta
-----------------------------------------------------
"It is impossible to enjoy idling thoroughly, unless
one has plenty of work to do."
(Jerome K. Jerome)
-----------------------------------------------------
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 143 -
1998-04-25 at 19:32:17
RICH BELLACERA, asking Don:
> Do you think you will ever introduce Gideon into your Duck mythos?
I suspect that I've read a few more Scarpa stories in the Greek Mickey
Mouse magazine (and KOMIX starting next month!) than what I believe
Don has in the Gladstones (all of four stories, if I'm not mistaken),
and it's the first time I've heard of Gideon. Thus, I'll have to ask the
obvious question: Who is he? Can you tell us uneducated folk a bit more
about him?
DON:
> >From: (Email removed) (Marc Chapman)
> > Taking this to the extreme, over a long =
> >period of time the 1950s will be filled with Scrooge stories and there =
> >will be no chunk left to fit another story.
>
> ??? Why? If someone *does*, for his own amusement, choose to set all his
> stories in one timeframe (like I do), I can fit an infinite number in that
> frame. You must be making an analogy that I'm not catching...?
I think that what Marc was trying to say is that there are so many days
in the fifties (3652, give or take a leap day, if I'm not mistaken),
and that by adding up all the days each story lasts, there is the danger
of eventually using up all of these days.
This is like adding up the number of Enterprise crewmen killed in Star
Trek stories. With stories still in production (at least in book format),
this number is quite likely to be or become higher than the 400-odd
total of the ship's complement! And, unlike with Star Trek, where they
could count on reaching a starbase to get a fresh supply of red-shirts,
the number of days in the fifties is a non-renewable resource.
Of course, the answer to both of the above problems is "so what". Anyone
who actually does perform this sort of counting, instead of enjoying
each story for its own merit, should probably be locked away in a room
with 3653 of Don's stories set in the fifties! (Come to think of it,
they should wait for their turn--where do I sign up?)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"This is not my planet, I didn't choose to be here, I don't want to get
involved, just get me out of here, and get me to a party with people I can
relate to!"
-----
> Do you think you will ever introduce Gideon into your Duck mythos?
I suspect that I've read a few more Scarpa stories in the Greek Mickey
Mouse magazine (and KOMIX starting next month!) than what I believe
Don has in the Gladstones (all of four stories, if I'm not mistaken),
and it's the first time I've heard of Gideon. Thus, I'll have to ask the
obvious question: Who is he? Can you tell us uneducated folk a bit more
about him?
DON:
> >From: (Email removed) (Marc Chapman)
> > Taking this to the extreme, over a long =
> >period of time the 1950s will be filled with Scrooge stories and there =
> >will be no chunk left to fit another story.
>
> ??? Why? If someone *does*, for his own amusement, choose to set all his
> stories in one timeframe (like I do), I can fit an infinite number in that
> frame. You must be making an analogy that I'm not catching...?
I think that what Marc was trying to say is that there are so many days
in the fifties (3652, give or take a leap day, if I'm not mistaken),
and that by adding up all the days each story lasts, there is the danger
of eventually using up all of these days.
This is like adding up the number of Enterprise crewmen killed in Star
Trek stories. With stories still in production (at least in book format),
this number is quite likely to be or become higher than the 400-odd
total of the ship's complement! And, unlike with Star Trek, where they
could count on reaching a starbase to get a fresh supply of red-shirts,
the number of days in the fifties is a non-renewable resource.
Of course, the answer to both of the above problems is "so what". Anyone
who actually does perform this sort of counting, instead of enjoying
each story for its own merit, should probably be locked away in a room
with 3653 of Don's stories set in the fifties! (Come to think of it,
they should wait for their turn--where do I sign up?)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"This is not my planet, I didn't choose to be here, I don't want to get
involved, just get me out of here, and get me to a party with people I can
relate to!"
-----
Rich Bellacera
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 144 -
1998-04-26 at 00:36:42
HARRY FLUKS:
Rich to Don
>>2. Do you have any plans to bring Gideon McDuck, Scrooge's brother
>>in Scarpa's tales into your vision of the Dick Universe in any form?
>
>A Freudian typo? 8-)
Boy is my face red. Yoiks! { :-O
In my defense, the "I" is just next to the "U", and the word would
pass successfully through a spellchecker (if I'd use such a thing).
>:-P
GM ROSER:
>Can anyone of you tell me what character Bonifacio is, which I've
>seen once in a Dominicanian/Columbian issue. Or not seen at all.
>He was the hero of the story B 860064 but only appeared in the last
>panel hidden between the baggage in the last panel. So I don't know
>his English name.
Since Bonifacio has yet to appear in the USA, (and probably has not
seen light in England either), he probably does not have an "English"
name per se, though we do translate the name itself as simply
"Boniface". That probably doesn't help though. However, he is very
comparable to another, much younger cousin of Clarabelle's, "Bertie
the Jinx" (originally called "Calfie"). BTW, he appears in several
more stories from Brazil as well (reprinted in Italian comics also).
And in those cases, his presence is very much known. :-)
The other character you mentioned as "Ellsworth's nephew" is
actually his adopted son, "Bruto" (a.k.a. Gancetto).
I have some information about both Bonifacio and Bruto on my
website which might be of som interest to you, though you
definitely pointed an earlier episode featuring Bonifacio than which
I was aware. Thanks. The tale has been shared with me by another
and I am in the process of rewriting Bonifacio's profile. I'm also
updating Ellsworth's, with plans to add a Bruto profile real soon.
You can find what I have so far at:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/bertie.html
and
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/ellsworth.html
I would love to see some discussion about these three (or four)
characters on the list... comparing the merits of Bertie & Bonifacio
and Bruto & Ellsworth.
Any takers?
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Rich to Don
>>2. Do you have any plans to bring Gideon McDuck, Scrooge's brother
>>in Scarpa's tales into your vision of the Dick Universe in any form?
>
>A Freudian typo? 8-)
Boy is my face red. Yoiks! { :-O
In my defense, the "I" is just next to the "U", and the word would
pass successfully through a spellchecker (if I'd use such a thing).
>:-P
GM ROSER:
>Can anyone of you tell me what character Bonifacio is, which I've
>seen once in a Dominicanian/Columbian issue. Or not seen at all.
>He was the hero of the story B 860064 but only appeared in the last
>panel hidden between the baggage in the last panel. So I don't know
>his English name.
Since Bonifacio has yet to appear in the USA, (and probably has not
seen light in England either), he probably does not have an "English"
name per se, though we do translate the name itself as simply
"Boniface". That probably doesn't help though. However, he is very
comparable to another, much younger cousin of Clarabelle's, "Bertie
the Jinx" (originally called "Calfie"). BTW, he appears in several
more stories from Brazil as well (reprinted in Italian comics also).
And in those cases, his presence is very much known. :-)
The other character you mentioned as "Ellsworth's nephew" is
actually his adopted son, "Bruto" (a.k.a. Gancetto).
I have some information about both Bonifacio and Bruto on my
website which might be of som interest to you, though you
definitely pointed an earlier episode featuring Bonifacio than which
I was aware. Thanks. The tale has been shared with me by another
and I am in the process of rewriting Bonifacio's profile. I'm also
updating Ellsworth's, with plans to add a Bruto profile real soon.
You can find what I have so far at:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/bertie.html
and
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/ellsworth.html
I would love to see some discussion about these three (or four)
characters on the list... comparing the merits of Bertie & Bonifacio
and Bruto & Ellsworth.
Any takers?
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Danny Coenen
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 145 -
1998-04-26 at 01:25:45
DON:
Great that you are back!!!
You said that you just finished another part of the Lo$, if I remeber
correctly. Just wondering how many parts there are right now including
that one, and if you have plans for even more "biographical" work.
Thanx!
==
Danny Coenen
Visit me on the World Wide Web!
The Foreign Exchange Student Homepage at
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Breakers/5042 or
http://surf.to/saturnpage
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Great that you are back!!!
You said that you just finished another part of the Lo$, if I remeber
correctly. Just wondering how many parts there are right now including
that one, and if you have plans for even more "biographical" work.
Thanx!
==
Danny Coenen
Visit me on the World Wide Web!
The Foreign Exchange Student Homepage at
http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Breakers/5042 or
http://surf.to/saturnpage
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Cebarat
Disney comics Digest V98 #104
Message 146 -
1998-04-26 at 02:32:26
FRANCOIS WILLOT wrote to DON ROSA:
<<Hi DON, I'm glad to hear you again.
Did you see that part of the drawing you did for the last issue of
"Picsou" (an illustration of "the Son of the Sun") was partly covered by
a green thing, which is supposed to be an ad for the new (silly) movie
"The Flubber"? That's a shame.>>
It could have been worse. PICSOU could have taken a page from TOPOLINO and
its occasional "packaged toy giveaways" and included some REAL "Flubber"
covering up Don's art. Yuck!
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
<<Hi DON, I'm glad to hear you again.
Did you see that part of the drawing you did for the last issue of
"Picsou" (an illustration of "the Son of the Sun") was partly covered by
a green thing, which is supposed to be an ad for the new (silly) movie
"The Flubber"? That's a shame.>>
It could have been worse. PICSOU could have taken a page from TOPOLINO and
its occasional "packaged toy giveaways" and included some REAL "Flubber"
covering up Don's art. Yuck!
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 147 -
1998-04-26 at 06:35:35
Oh! This might be too late, but I can't help it!
The local main-library had told me that their copy of "The Sterling Legend"
that they useta' have and which I'd used when I did "The Vigilante of Pizen
Bluff" was missing... stolen or misplaced on the shelves. But I figured that
it was unlikely anyone would steal such a book, so today I went down to the
library to take a look for myself. And I found their copy in about 5
seconds... it was simply two shelves below the spot where it belonged. So...
I don't need anyone to desperately locate me a copy!
Now, if anyone *has* bought and sent me a copy, that's okay, I wouldn't mind
having a copy for myself. But *please* don't search the world for one or
dash it off to me by airmail! . Sorry for the false alarm (but blame the
librarian).
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #106
******************************************
The local main-library had told me that their copy of "The Sterling Legend"
that they useta' have and which I'd used when I did "The Vigilante of Pizen
Bluff" was missing... stolen or misplaced on the shelves. But I figured that
it was unlikely anyone would steal such a book, so today I went down to the
library to take a look for myself. And I found their copy in about 5
seconds... it was simply two shelves below the spot where it belonged. So...
I don't need anyone to desperately locate me a copy!
Now, if anyone *has* bought and sent me a copy, that's okay, I wouldn't mind
having a copy for myself. But *please* don't search the world for one or
dash it off to me by airmail! . Sorry for the false alarm (but blame the
librarian).
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #106
******************************************
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V98 #106
Message 148 -
1998-04-26 at 08:12:44
>From: Steven Rowe
>I believe he's thinking that with only 365 days in a year, and only 10
years
>in the 50s; how can the ducks do all that stuff.
Well, that's what I figured he meant. And I meant what I said... I can fit
an infinite number of stories into the 50s. All I have to do is do a story
that I intend to be in the 50s and it's there, regardless of how many other
stories might already be there. It *has* to be taking place then if I say
so. I'm the story's boss, it goes where I tell it to. Follow?
If someone is gonna get nitpicky, doesn't this make more sense than me
saying my stories are taking place "now" as with all the other writers of
all those stories appearing in all those weekly Duck comics published around
the world? How could ALL those adventures take place in one week? Well, I
stick mine back 40 years ago where no one else is mucking about, and I'll
NEVER do so many stories that they'd not fit into a whole decade of time.
(But as I said, I pay no attention to how many adventures would fit into how
much time... who would worry or think about such a thing?!?!)
>From: Danny Coenen
>You said that you just finished another part of the Lo$, if I remeber
>correctly. Just wondering how many parts there are right now including
>that one, and if you have plans for even more "biographical" work.
IF you consider them all part of that same series (and my editor wants to
think of them as two different series, the "Lo$" and something else) there
are now chapters 1-3, 3B, 4-6, 6B, 7, 8, 8B, 9-12. That's 15. That chapter
"0" really isn't part of the series, even if chapter "8B" is... neither was
done AS part of the series, but the 8B fits the mold much better.
And yes, I'll always add a new chapter every 1 or 2 years. Anyone have a
suggestion for the next chapter? I have ideas in my notes, but I'll gladly
swipe a better one!
>I believe he's thinking that with only 365 days in a year, and only 10
years
>in the 50s; how can the ducks do all that stuff.
Well, that's what I figured he meant. And I meant what I said... I can fit
an infinite number of stories into the 50s. All I have to do is do a story
that I intend to be in the 50s and it's there, regardless of how many other
stories might already be there. It *has* to be taking place then if I say
so. I'm the story's boss, it goes where I tell it to. Follow?
If someone is gonna get nitpicky, doesn't this make more sense than me
saying my stories are taking place "now" as with all the other writers of
all those stories appearing in all those weekly Duck comics published around
the world? How could ALL those adventures take place in one week? Well, I
stick mine back 40 years ago where no one else is mucking about, and I'll
NEVER do so many stories that they'd not fit into a whole decade of time.
(But as I said, I pay no attention to how many adventures would fit into how
much time... who would worry or think about such a thing?!?!)
>From: Danny Coenen
>You said that you just finished another part of the Lo$, if I remeber
>correctly. Just wondering how many parts there are right now including
>that one, and if you have plans for even more "biographical" work.
IF you consider them all part of that same series (and my editor wants to
think of them as two different series, the "Lo$" and something else) there
are now chapters 1-3, 3B, 4-6, 6B, 7, 8, 8B, 9-12. That's 15. That chapter
"0" really isn't part of the series, even if chapter "8B" is... neither was
done AS part of the series, but the 8B fits the mold much better.
And yes, I'll always add a new chapter every 1 or 2 years. Anyone have a
suggestion for the next chapter? I have ideas in my notes, but I'll gladly
swipe a better one!
Rich Bellacera
Disney comics Digest V98 #106
Message 149 -
1998-04-26 at 09:30:04
DON ROSA:
Thank you for answering my questions about Scarp and the Duck Family
Tree. One more question for clarification, please:
>>but apparently her brother married Donald's sister Della (right?) which
>>explains why HD&L call her Aunt Daisy,
>
>Well, that's my idea, but it doesn't say that anywhere except in my
>"private notes". It wouldn't fit onto my Duck Family Tree.
I'm not certain what you mean. Why doesn't it "fit" into your tree if it
exists in your "private" tree. I'm confused... sorry. Based on your
"published" tree, it would just appear that Daisy, her brother and sister,
April, May and June, along with your vision of Ludwig von Drake, were
simple omissions which aren't necessarily excluded by that tree, just not
presently included.
KRITON KYRIMIS:
>I suspect that I've read a few more Scarpa stories in the Greek Mickey
>Mouse magazine (and KOMIX starting next month!) than what I believe
>Don has in the Gladstones (all of four stories, if I'm not mistaken),
>and it's the first time I've heard of Gideon. Thus, I'll have to ask the
>obvious question: Who is he? Can you tell us uneducated folk a bit more
>about him?
If Don's only exposure to Scarpa has been through Gladstone, then that
might explain some of the mediocre impression of his work. I think
there was about 8 or more Scarpa stories printed in Gladstone comics, but,
I believe some of them were editted down, removing story and art content.
Anyhow, Gideon, Uncle Scrooge's brother, as well as Sgrizzo Papero,
Donald's wacky cousin, have never appeared in any comics in the USA. I
have had the Pleasure of meeting several Italians on this Mailing List
who have introduced me to these characters, even to the point of sharing
the actual comics with me which featured these and many other
characters.
Here is a brief summary of what I have learned about Gideon McDuck:
Gideon McDuck (GEDEONE DE' PAPERONI):
Gideon McDuck is Scrooge McDuck's younger brother, a character
created by Romano Scarpa and used in only a few stories. His first
appearance was in a really great story called "Paperino e i gamberi
in salmi'" (Donald and the salmi shrimps) from Topolino #132-3
(1956). This first story was drawn and written by Scarpa. Gideon is
the director of the Duckburg newspaper "Il Grillo Parlante" (The
Talking Cricket [coincidentally the same name used in Italian for
Jimny Cricket from "Pinocchio"), his work presence seemed to parallel
the director of "Topolino" (Mickey Mouse) in those years, Mario
Gentilini, who was the Editor in Chief while Scarpa was writing his
masterpieces. Gedeone appeared sometimes in some stories featuring
Paperetta Ye-Ye, who works for him as a reporter such as TL #616 -
617 (Sep. 9, 1967) in "Paperetta Ye-Ye e i gatti indossatori" by
Scarpa and Cavazzano. While presented as an adversary to Scrooge's
miserly ways, Gideon is a very genial character, and in some ways
seems to be the typical newspaper director from many Hollywood
movies from that period (expecially from Frank Capra films).
I'm sure folks like Luna, Alberto, Franco (Eta Beta) and others can g
ive a much more detailed understanding of Gideon than me, since most
of the above information is from them anyhow.
I am still in a quandry as to what exactly the friction is between
Gideon and Scrooge... I understand it has to do with his disapproval
of Scrooge's stinginess, but I'm sure there is a deeper story to be
understood... What was it like for them growing up together? Why
did Scrooge and Gideon take such different paths in life?
Gideon's profile, as well as some others like Sgrizzo, Rumpus McFowl,
Bella Quack (Belle Duck) and more are currently in the works and
will be added to the "Disney HooZoo" list of profiles.
Ciao,
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Thank you for answering my questions about Scarp and the Duck Family
Tree. One more question for clarification, please:
>>but apparently her brother married Donald's sister Della (right?) which
>>explains why HD&L call her Aunt Daisy,
>
>Well, that's my idea, but it doesn't say that anywhere except in my
>"private notes". It wouldn't fit onto my Duck Family Tree.
I'm not certain what you mean. Why doesn't it "fit" into your tree if it
exists in your "private" tree. I'm confused... sorry. Based on your
"published" tree, it would just appear that Daisy, her brother and sister,
April, May and June, along with your vision of Ludwig von Drake, were
simple omissions which aren't necessarily excluded by that tree, just not
presently included.
KRITON KYRIMIS:
>I suspect that I've read a few more Scarpa stories in the Greek Mickey
>Mouse magazine (and KOMIX starting next month!) than what I believe
>Don has in the Gladstones (all of four stories, if I'm not mistaken),
>and it's the first time I've heard of Gideon. Thus, I'll have to ask the
>obvious question: Who is he? Can you tell us uneducated folk a bit more
>about him?
If Don's only exposure to Scarpa has been through Gladstone, then that
might explain some of the mediocre impression of his work. I think
there was about 8 or more Scarpa stories printed in Gladstone comics, but,
I believe some of them were editted down, removing story and art content.
Anyhow, Gideon, Uncle Scrooge's brother, as well as Sgrizzo Papero,
Donald's wacky cousin, have never appeared in any comics in the USA. I
have had the Pleasure of meeting several Italians on this Mailing List
who have introduced me to these characters, even to the point of sharing
the actual comics with me which featured these and many other
characters.
Here is a brief summary of what I have learned about Gideon McDuck:
Gideon McDuck (GEDEONE DE' PAPERONI):
Gideon McDuck is Scrooge McDuck's younger brother, a character
created by Romano Scarpa and used in only a few stories. His first
appearance was in a really great story called "Paperino e i gamberi
in salmi'" (Donald and the salmi shrimps) from Topolino #132-3
(1956). This first story was drawn and written by Scarpa. Gideon is
the director of the Duckburg newspaper "Il Grillo Parlante" (The
Talking Cricket [coincidentally the same name used in Italian for
Jimny Cricket from "Pinocchio"), his work presence seemed to parallel
the director of "Topolino" (Mickey Mouse) in those years, Mario
Gentilini, who was the Editor in Chief while Scarpa was writing his
masterpieces. Gedeone appeared sometimes in some stories featuring
Paperetta Ye-Ye, who works for him as a reporter such as TL #616 -
617 (Sep. 9, 1967) in "Paperetta Ye-Ye e i gatti indossatori" by
Scarpa and Cavazzano. While presented as an adversary to Scrooge's
miserly ways, Gideon is a very genial character, and in some ways
seems to be the typical newspaper director from many Hollywood
movies from that period (expecially from Frank Capra films).
I'm sure folks like Luna, Alberto, Franco (Eta Beta) and others can g
ive a much more detailed understanding of Gideon than me, since most
of the above information is from them anyhow.
I am still in a quandry as to what exactly the friction is between
Gideon and Scrooge... I understand it has to do with his disapproval
of Scrooge's stinginess, but I'm sure there is a deeper story to be
understood... What was it like for them growing up together? Why
did Scrooge and Gideon take such different paths in life?
Gideon's profile, as well as some others like Sgrizzo, Rumpus McFowl,
Bella Quack (Belle Duck) and more are currently in the works and
will be added to the "Disney HooZoo" list of profiles.
Ciao,
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Cebarat
Disney comics Digest V98 #105
Message 150 -
1998-04-26 at 17:32:09
DON ROSA wrote:
<<The worst thing is to see something I did touched by something from that
"Flubber" movie. "The Absent-Minded Professor" is one of my favorite Disney
films... and to see a remake made by that maker of
dumb-films-for-dumb-children, John Hughes, is more than I can stand. Ecch.>>
I tend to agree. Hopefully, "Flubber" will not end up wholly eclipsing the
timeless charm of the Fred MacMurray original (scripted, BTW, by Bill Walsh,
longtime writer of the Gottfredson-drawn MICKEY MOUSE comic strip). Somehow,
I think that people will still be watching the '61 version long after the
Robin Williams version is forgotten.
<<As I said above, these issues are kept in the widest possible perspective,
as far as I can tell. It's all a matter of taste and free-will. Nobody
forces their beliefs on anyone else or wants to (well, except the Religious
Right).>>
I don't know about this... my five years of experience and observations at
Brown University (one of the most "liberal" US universities, BTW) taught me
that such attempts at "imposition" are pretty much universal across the
political spectrum. The question is, how do you couch your "attempts," and
what sort of methods do you use to get them to work?
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
<<The worst thing is to see something I did touched by something from that
"Flubber" movie. "The Absent-Minded Professor" is one of my favorite Disney
films... and to see a remake made by that maker of
dumb-films-for-dumb-children, John Hughes, is more than I can stand. Ecch.>>
I tend to agree. Hopefully, "Flubber" will not end up wholly eclipsing the
timeless charm of the Fred MacMurray original (scripted, BTW, by Bill Walsh,
longtime writer of the Gottfredson-drawn MICKEY MOUSE comic strip). Somehow,
I think that people will still be watching the '61 version long after the
Robin Williams version is forgotten.
<<As I said above, these issues are kept in the widest possible perspective,
as far as I can tell. It's all a matter of taste and free-will. Nobody
forces their beliefs on anyone else or wants to (well, except the Religious
Right).>>
I don't know about this... my five years of experience and observations at
Brown University (one of the most "liberal" US universities, BTW) taught me
that such attempts at "imposition" are pretty much universal across the
political spectrum. The question is, how do you couch your "attempts," and
what sort of methods do you use to get them to work?
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm