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> 350 in which I see Donald, Fethry, Scrooge, [snip] and possibly Belle Duck
> (dressed as the Babylonian Princess).

Belle Duck? Is this the same Belle Duck mentioned as a possible girlfriend of $crooge awhile back?
(I'm still looking for scans of her, if anyone could help...)

> This story being approximately 250 pages long could be the LONGEST Disney story on record?

I don't know if you count Lo$ as one story. Probably not. It's a series. But 250 pages? Wow!

> I can see where a different version of the ending, wher
> e Scrooge was actually making a very expensive sacrifice, might
> be reminiscent of the sacrifice he made in "Back to the Klondike"
> -- but I think it would be inappropriate in this case. Mr. Bunz
> may have been a highly esteemed colleague, but his place in
> Scrooge's personal history can never be equated with that of
> Glittering Goldie!

Exactly! ;-)DON ROSA WROTE:(Moooaaaannnnn!) I don't have the new Gladstone U$ issue yet, but I just

> received this in an e-mail:
> "My wife and I were reading your last
> story, "W.H.A.D.A. L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N." (fantastic story,by the way) and
> she noted something that I actually glossed right over. Scrooge mentions
> that the nephews' mother is his grand-daughter!!! Is this right, does Scrooge
> have children we don't know about?"

I noticed that! But I keep forget to bring it up! I obviously realized the error, but still...how
interesting... (A Freudian typo on the letterer's part?)

> (But I'll stop short of giving my opinion on the answer to the final
> question above...)

:-)Cool.
:-)

> Another Lo$ suggestion (slightly inronic):
> I bet if you wrote a part about Scrooge on the Titanic, possibly
> meeting "Jack" and "Rose", it would be a bestseller! ;-) Not that any
> true Rosa fan would care for that, though!

ARG! The only crossover that should ever be done with these two worlds is my own
doodle...http://www.execpc.com/~sulliva1/Duckburg/titanic.jpg
:-D

> In the Fluks family tree, there are two more women called Fluks-Fluks.
> (And I'm sure there must be a few Duck-Duck women already, like the
> mother of April, May and June.)

*grin*

So if one of those characters was widowed and remarried one of Gus' relatives, would they be Mrs.
Duck-Duck-Goose? :-D
(You might have to be North American to get that joke...)

Katie Quackfaster

Oh, I forgot to mention, my page has been updated again. Miss
Quackfaster's gallery now has *real* thumbnails, not just the big files
with shrunken dimensions! That's not quite done, but it's a lot better
than it used to be. There's a few new pictures, too, which are at the
bottom. A few have already been pointed out to you all on this ML, but
I think a few are new. On a related note, the Phooey Page has been
updated; more specifically the Lost Nephews page. (Kablooey, etc.) :-)

Miss Quackfaster's Art
http://www2.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ridleyford/112/quack.htm

The Lost Nephews
http://www2.fortunecity.com/lavendar/ridleyford/112/lost.htm

Happy web-surfin'!

Oh, and another quick plea for scans of Belle Duck or any other
little-known significant others of $crooge. Thanks!

Katie Quackfaster

"Be practical as well as generous in your ideals. Keep your eyes on the
stars, but remember to keep your feet on the ground." ~~~ "T.R" a.k.a.
Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States of America.
(which is not an off-topic quote, as all who have read Lo$ know! ;-)

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Someone called J. Taylor sent me the following, but I can't reply to him =
since his mail had no e-mail address. Apparently he used the "mailto" =
facility from one of our web pages.

This might be interesting for Rich, and others..
--Harry.

Subject: =
http://WWW.Update.UU.SE/user-cgi/starback/story?W+DD++112-02MOBYDUCK

Research this further, but Moby originally appeared as an animated =
character
on the Wonderful World of Disney. The episode was an educational =
travelogue
called "Pacifically Peeking". I have not seen it but have seen it at a
video store.

I was going thru the contents of US #310 as they appear on Gladstone's
web-site and I must say that I was disappointed to read that Barks' "Back to
Long Ago" (an otherwise good story) will be re-printed (again) in that issue.

Gosh, hasn't it been only 5 years (June 1993) since that story was printed
in a regular *comic book* in the States by Disney Comics with a (then)
brand-new cover by Don Rosa? Could Gladstone PLEASE explain to its readers
WHY they're re-printing that story again so soon? What's so special about
this story? Why are they re-printing it so soon in their SECOND issue of a
prestige-format comic book priced at $7 that will be bought MOSTLY by people
who already own this story?!? Are they so empty of new ideas and
un-reprinted to the nth degree stories?

I must confess I'm a bit irritated by such behavior: in that same issue,
Rosa's "The Sign of the Triple Distelfink" shall be making its American
premiere appearance, and I'll "have" to buy it; with this I'll be buying a
long story I only bought a few years ago (not to mention its album
appearance) and for which I'd never have paid the $7 if it weren't packaged
like this. It might be "smart" marketing, but I wonder how long they can
keep it up...

Having said this, I must applaud their choice for a cover for that issue.

Cheers,

Archontis

Something I should have said in my last e-mail, before it is taken as a
negative
letter, is that it's probably good for us fans of older Disney comics that
sometimes
all it takes is some minor art changes to make the comic passable by the
censors.
We probably should be glad that Gladstone takes the time to modify a comic
where necessary, as long as it doesn't detract from the original, which the
sample
panels depict (of ethnicity changes) don't do.

-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html

DON ROSA wrote:

From Christopher E. Barat:
>I don't know about this... my five years of experience and observations at
>Brown University (one of the most "liberal" US universities, BTW) taught me
>that such attempts at "imposition" are pretty much universal across the
>political spectrum. The question is, how do you couch your "attempts," and
>what sort of methods do you use to get them to work?
<<But I just said that I *make* no attempt at such "imposition" of my ideas on
any other writers, even if I had such power, which I don't. So, I do no
"couching" nor do I use any methods to get anything to "work". It's true in
my own view of the Universe, and that's all.>>

Hmm... I sense some crossed wires here.

My reference was not to anything you did or said in your own stories,
but rather was a reference to certain tactics that I saw other people use
at Brown. I was noting that while some believe that "imposing one's
views on others" is exclusively a tactic of the religious right, it
actually is done by ANYONE of whatever political persuasion. How
effective one is in doing it often depends upon how one chooses to couch
one's attempts to do it. (Campus "speech codes" are imposed in the name of
sensitivity towards ethnic groups, and so forth.)

The "you" in the final sentence you quoted was not referring to
Don Rosa, but rather was a rhetorical, general "you." Sorry for any
confusion.

-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm

--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #111
******************************************

KRITON KYRIMIS:

>DON:
>> But the word "granddaughter" should of course be NIECE ! Aaauuugh!
>
>For better or worse, this misprint now makes it an established fact that
>Scrooge does have children, making those requests about the story telling what
>*really* happened between Scrooge and Goldie to be taken more seriously.

But I thought it was established that Dickie Duck was his "granddaughter",
well she is Goldie's granddaughter.... Hmmmm, so Scrooge and Goldie did
do other things than just mine gold those days in the Klondike, eh? :-)

But now this tale of Don's calling HD&L's mother Scrooge's granddaughter
is peculiar... surely your not suggesting Dickie is their mother? ;-) jk

FRANCOIS WILLOT & MARCO BARLOTTI

****DOUBLE STORYCODE CURIOSITIES****
>FW ]] For instance, B 810236 where Donald and Daisy got married.

>MB ]] Well, the story I know about this marriage is in fact a different one:
>B 870024
>It looks like in Brazil they LIKE this subject ;-)

>>Well, the story I know about this marriage is in fact a different one:
>>B 870024 It looks like in Brazil they LIKE this subject ;-)
>
>That's the same story actually. But the code in France is B 810236.
>Probably a mistake, though, as Rich found a different story coded
>810236!

Perhaps that is the answer? I rechecked my issue of MA #350 and the
tale "Paperino e il Carneval del Movimento" is definitely listed as
B 810236...but you wanna know something funny? I didn't even realize
when I wrote my note for the Mailing List that I wrote the exact same
StoryCode Francois did for the D&D Marriage or I would surely have
mentioned it then. I was merely focusing, at the time, on how many
Disney characters were appearing in the tale. How strange. What story
is really assigned the code: B 810236, or could both have the same code?

Speaking of duplicate codes, I have been in an off-line conversation
concerning the Bonifacio tale that Gilbert first quoted: B 860064
featuring Bonifacio in the luggage rack at the end of the tale...well,
since no one, even in subsequent related posting mentioned the Book
and date of this published tale I took it upon myself to research it in
the on-line database, and here again we have duplicate story codes:
B 860064 comes up as being Goofy: "Pippo e il giorno del tremore"
from TL #1636, which is apparently NOT the Bonifacio tale which
doesn't appear until TL #1702 in "Pippo e Minni... per un giorno di
sole" (Goofy and Minnie... for a sunny day).

I own #1635 and #1646, but I don't own TL #1636, so if anyone does
could you possibly check the actual storycode for "Pippo e il giorno
del tremore" and I guess Harry(?) will want to know the results of
this double code mystery... That makes two cases of double
storycoding.

RE: D&D's MARRIAGE:
>*****************SPOILER********************
>*********************************************
>
>
>The act was completed enough, and D+D got SIX children (three males and
>three females) with Daisy's FIRST pregnancy...
>There is of course a final surprise which all of you can imagine!
>Anyway, the story is nice enough and well-drawn (with an excellent drawing
>of the Notre-Duck cathedral), featuring a few pleasant gags (like Minnie
>hinting to Mickey: good examples SHOULD be followed!).
>

Ahhh, well that figures then... so it was like the cartoon "Donald's Diary"
where Donald leaves to join the Foreign Legion at the end to avoid marrying
Daisy. In that cartoon Daisy has Triplet brothers. And if, like Don suggests,
Daisy's Brother married Donald's Sister, Della, and had HD&L, and Daisy's
Sister had AM&J, the idea of Donald & Daisy have two sets of triplets is
hardly a surprise :-) It's genetically hardwired in their genes... :-)

CURIOSITY: Whenever Disney characters run off or away, in older tales,
they always run to the Foreign Legion (Donald, Mickey, Ellsworth, and I
think, even Pluto...hmmmm).
>*************END OF SPOILER****************
>*********************************************

ADERACK:

About Scrooge's granddaughter:
>I noticed this, too (admittedly, not until after a couple of readings) -- but,
>hey -- $crooge is just regaining conciousness as he mumbles his remark. His
>brain's probably just in a mixmaster. <g>

Does he get an official "Rosa No-Prize"? (Hey Marvel Comics does it when
a fan gives a plausible "way out" of a FUBAR.

KATIE SULLIVAN:
>Belle Duck? Is this the same Belle Duck mentioned as a possible girlfriend of
> $crooge awhile back? (I'm still looking for scans of her, if anyone could
>help...)

Yes, that's the same Belle Duck I was referring to. I've placed a scan of
her at
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/SCANS/belle.gif

Roberto Lionello
ROBERTO LIONELLO:

>I recently bought
>Title: Walt Disney's Mickey Mouse in color. 1st ed.
>
>Could you please tell me if the following book has different
>stories in it?
>
>Mickey Mouse. 10/1978 Abbeville Press, Incorporated.
>Introduction by Floyd Gottfredson.
>(Walt Disney Best Comics Ser.)

Yes, Roberto, these are two very different books. I have both. There are
maybe
two or three stories that are the same in both books, the rest of the tales are
different. The "MM in Color" is very much also a biography of Gottfredson
and his work, while the other is a large hardbound book with many Gottfredson
tales published in it (plus a little studio background information as well).

Dr. ARCHONTIS PANTSIOS:
>Could Gladstone PLEASE explain to its readers WHY they're re-printing
>that story again so soon? What's so special about this story?
>Why are they re-printing it so soon in their SECOND issue of a
>prestige-format
>comic book priced at $7 that will be bought MOSTLY by people who already own
>this story?!? Are they so empty of new ideas and un-reprinted to the nth
>degree
>stories?

This is why my interest in Italian and Brazilian comics has grown
exponentially.
I want fresh stories... It seems that mostly what Gladstone is offering are
re-re-re-reprints in multiple formats, with a few trickles of foreign imports
sandwiched inbetween... but only in their prestige format... and like a simple
minded duck, I keep buying them... Partially because I want to see those
sandwiched stories in English, and partly because I want to do my part to keep
Disney comics alive in America (even if it is practically on life-support
now...
I fear that soon Gladstone will be placing a call to Dr. Jack Kvorkian).

I really appreciate the friends I have made through the Mailing List and it's
even helping me to learn and appreciate non-American languages and cultures.

HARRY FLUKS:
>Subject: Moby Duck

Actually I was aware of that, but thank you anyhow. In the HooZoo I have Moby
Duck listed as:

1st PRINT APPEARANCE:
"Donald Duck #112" in "A Whale of an Adventure" (Mar.
1967);
and later headlining his own "Moby Duck" comics
(October 1967).
1st FILM APPEARANCE:
"Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color" in
"Pacifically Peeking"
(Oct. 6, 1968). VOICE ACTOR: Paul Frees

-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html