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Markoff
Wow, two new Gladstone issues in a row! Ain't the U. S. Postal Service
supmin'! And after several giant WDC&S issues of not-so-interesting drivel
like "The Reluctant Dragon" and "Country Cousin," now I can finally read a
book exclusively dedicated to our own favorite Ducks!

"WHADALOTTAJARGON" (periods omitted) is the highlight of the issue, in case
anyone hadn't figured that out. As usual, Rosa is excellent at probing the
mythos of what makes Duckburg tick. Here he depicts with perfection the
transition of HDL from brats to scouts, much Duck Family and Duckburgian
history, and a seemingly impossible new role for an old Duckburg landmark.
One thing I couldn't figure out, though, is--where does this story fit into
the Rosa "timeline"? Obviously it comes somewhere between "Life of Scrooge
12" which is set in 1947, and before most of Rosa's present-day stories,
which show HDL as JWs (including "A Little Something Special" set in 1952).
1948 is the closest I can figure, for what it's worrth to all really strict
Rosa chronologists.

"Snow Duster" by Barks contained an interesting and unusual starring role
for the Helper.

"Money to Burn," "Deep Sea Trouble," and "King of Fools" were fairly good as
non-Rosa Egmont stories go, with a nice heroic role for Donald in the second.

It's nice to see that Gladstone is squeezing out the Taliaferro gags faster
(slowly propelling them further to the end), but they don't seem any better
than before.

And we've got two more Rosa stories for which to look forward! Now if
Gladstone would only make good on the Italian stories they've promised us...

--Jonathan Markoff

"No, that's a DIFFERENT title! Pay attention!"
--Don Rosa, "WHADALOTTAJARGON"
Ole R. Nielsen
The Danish/Norwegian weekly (which I have now had confirmed is
edited in Norway) had a story by list-member Shaun Craill in
this weeks issue, no. 16.

The Danish translation referred to the wellknown creature
Bigfoot (as real a creature in Disney comics as Santa and
the Loch Ness monster), but the original title of the story
is "Sasqwatching".

I came to wonder what the difference is? Are they two different
creatures, or is it just a question of American and North-american
dialects?

The same issue also had the first Jack Bradbury story in ages,
the 1954 Goofy super-glue story. Looks like the 50 year anniver-
sary is spilling over to Denmark, even if Anders And & Co.'s
birthday won't be until March 1999.

But maybe the Norwegian editors are too lazy to edit a special
Danish version, just to get around that. The jokes about Swedes
go through unedited apparently. That also explains why Swedish
Kalle Anka is still edited in Stockholm...

oLe

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Soeren Krarup Olesen
Having read, that some of the mail list
contributers were not too satisfied with the
new WDC or some did not really look
forward to receive it, reminds me a bit of
my own expectations for the next Jumbobog
and the next...

...and now Karsten Weldingh has closed down
his "Den store JUMBOBOG hjemmeside" at

http://inet.uni-c.dk/~i29365

telling us this: "I'm just not able to read anymore
Jumbob=F8ger - the stories repeat themselves again
and again, thanks...etc..."

S=F8ren

So it goes. (in the Vonnegut way)
Claus Ola Margon Havik
On 17 Apr 1998, Ole R. Nielsen wrote:
> The Danish translation referred to the wellknown creature
> Bigfoot (as real a creature in Disney comics as Santa and
> the Loch Ness monster), but the original title of the story
> is "Sasqwatching".
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> I came to wonder what the difference is? Are they two different
> creatures, or is it just a question of American and North-american=20
> dialects?

I think Bigfoot is the English name,
while Sasqwatch is what Indians called the creature.

Claus O. M. H=E5vik
Carl-Henrik Berg
I remember reading a strip in a Donald Duck magazine in Swedish - Kalle
Anka - where Donald went sightseeing and at every attraction found that he
was late, and had to rush further to the next attraction. This was more
than 25 years ago, but maybe there is somebody who can help me in locating
this episode. I am doing some research in modern tourism, and I think that
maybe Donald and his experiences can come in handy here.

I really hope that somebody can help me on this.

Thanks,

Carl-Henrik Berg
Skelleftea, Sweden
Fluks, H.W.
Carl-Henrik:

You're looking for the story "Terrible Tourist", written and drawn by
Carl Barks. Published in Sweden in Kalle Anka 1962-9 and again in
1986-31.
Swedish title: "Den förskräcklige turisten". Maybe also reprinted
elsewhere in Sweden, but we don't have more information.

Full (known) information (from the Disney comics Database) about
reprints:

America: WDC 248,WDC 465,BL10(page 209),DM 28,LICW 42
Denmark: AA62-08,AA86-32
Germany: 86-36,BL 42,TGD 132
Netherlands: 66-29,BV.46,KV.13
Sweden: 62-09,86-31

--Harry.
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Marco Barlotti
Some @#$%$#@ at my Faculty computer center cancelled my e-mail account
together with a week's mail (just in the Easter week, when I was away!!!).
Now my account is back, but all the mail is lost for good :-(

Should any of you have written to me in the last ten days or so, PLEASE
write again.
Sorry for the off-topic!
Marco

(Email removed)
Marco Barlotti
>but Alberto Becattani e-mailed me, and I can't seem to e-mail him back; imy
>response keeps coming back....
>

Alberto has not configured well his mailer. We already noticed it with all
that HTML stuff behind...
Well, in particular you cannot REPLY-TO him. You have to send him a brand
new message, at

(Email removed)

Hope that helps!

Marco

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Stefan Diös
Back in February/March, we discussed the album series "Uncle Scrooge's
Treasure Chest". We knew of eight albums altogether, the first five being
drawn by Miquel Pujol (and written by Adolf Kabatek), while the later albums
has another artist.

I recently discovered two more "forgotten" albums in this series. #9, called
"Queen of Saba" and set in Northern Africa, appeared in Sweden in 1992. I
could only glance quickly at #10 and didn't get all the details, but it is
obviously set in Central Europe (Munich and Basle).

No codes are visible in any of these stories, as is also the case in most of
the others. They are both standard album length (44 pages?), and if I had to
venture a guess, I'd say that the artist is the same one who did ## 6 through 8.

It's remarkable how early 90's albums keep popping up that none of the
"super experts" on this list seems to have heard of. What more did Egmont
Sweden hide from regular shoppers during this time, when only album club
subscribers could get the stuff? I'll try to find out... if something
interesting turns up, I'll inform the list.

Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Stefan Diös
OLE R. NIELSEN about the Scandinavian weeklies; and the fact that the Danish
weekly largely is edited in Norway:

>But maybe the Norwegian editors are too lazy to edit a special
>Danish version, just to get around that. The jokes about Swedes
>go through unedited apparently. That also explains why Swedish
>Kalle Anka is still edited in Stockholm...

Actually, Ole, we're right here in Malmo... closer than you think, so you
better be careful with any wisecracks about Swedes... you should know, of
course, that these jokes really are about Norwegians!

Still, the Swedish weekly, too, gets most (if not all) of its editorial
material from Norway. The Scandinavian Egmonts are co-producing more and
more (to save big bucks, I guess), cooperating to a degree where it's
getting a little fuzzy to sort out who does what and who knows what. In
Sweden, we are caught somewhat in between, in that the comics are made in
Copenhagen and the rest of the magazine in Oslo. Putting it all together is
done... well, like I said, I'm not quite sure who really makes decisions or
gets things done in the end.

Sometimes, however, we do things a little different from the rest of you.
For instance, the weekly in question, #16, was compressed into a double
Easter issue in Sweden, along with #15. This meant that some of the stories
had to go... including both stories you mentioned! So the unfortunate Swedes
missed out on Shaun's Sasqwatching Woodchucks as well as the Bradbury
reprint! (As far as I have found out, the decision to make a double issue is
done in Sweden, while the actual content is compiled in Norway, from the
stories made or put forward in Denmark.)

We'll have to seek comfort from the thought that there's more Jack Bradbury
coming up. "The Missing Prince" from MM 34 is scheduled for a later issue.
This story evidently wasn't published in Scandinavia before, and I can see
why. Difficult or impossible translations were discussed a while ago on this
list, and this one will have to fall close to the very rare "impossible"
category. Those of you with access to the original story will see what I
mean. Sheesh! I'd be interested to hear what my translating colleagues in
other countries did to save that plot. I could only manage very awkwardly in
Swedish. Of course, other languages might have it easier...

Hope I didn't spoil the story with this, or revealed too much of what's
going to happen!

Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
SRoweCanoe
no Disney comics this issue!
two reprints: a 6pp Simpsons comic (no code)
a 9pp Bone comic (JZ 348)
next month has a Disney comic: Doug.
Steven Rowe
Barry Branvold
A little off the topic!
Could Norwegian fans send me private e-mail.
I want to know about places to stay in
Bergen and Oslo. Trip will be in early June.
Thanks in advance! ---Barry---
Mad Matt
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Geir J. Netland
Harry and Carl-Henrik:
>You're looking for the story "Terrible Tourist", written and drawn by
>Carl Barks. Published in Sweden in Kalle Anka 1962-9 and again in
>1986-31.
>Swedish title: "Den förskräcklige turisten". Maybe also reprinted
>elsewhere in Sweden, but we don't have more information.

Perhaps I'm wrong Harry, but I think you are mixing two Barks stories here.
The description Carl-Henrik gave made me think of "A Duck's Eye View Of
Europe".
This is a story about Donald touring Europe, and he's always behind the
rest of the group. When Donald arrives an attraction, the rest of the group
has moved on to the next attraction and so on......
Publicatons:
USA : WDC 273,WDC 427, BL10-469,LICW 47
Sweden: 64-05
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Shaun Craill
Ole:
>The Danish translation referred to the wellknown creature
>Bigfoot (as real a creature in Disney comics as Santa and
>the Loch Ness monster), but the original title of the story
>is "Sasqwatching".

>I came to wonder what the difference is? Are they two different
>creatures, or is it just a question of American and North-american
>dialects?

Your suspicions are correct Ole, Bigfoot and Sasquatch are indeed the same
creature. Sasquatch is the most commonly accepted native American name for
the mythical creature.

The title *Sasqwatching* was a play on phonetically similar sounding words.
The JW's job in this story was to spot and count animals from their lookout,
or in other words to be *watching* (Sasquatch rhymes with watch).

Is the Norwegian comic exactly the same as the Danish Anders And? If it is a
different comic I'd love to get a copy! Swop you for a copy of my original
scribbles for the story:-)

Shaun.
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