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I'd be interested in knowing what the greatest number of characters
appearing in a single Disney comic story is. So far, the greatest number
I've counted is in the Phantom Blot story "The Case of the Disappearing
Diamonds". In this appear Mickey Mouse, Goofy, Donald Duck, Uncle Scrooge,
Gyro Gearloose, Pluto, and the Phantom Blot himself. So that's 7 characters.

David King.

"Mankind has not so much power to receive as the genius has power to give."

Schopenhauer

Hi y'all,

Just a quickie, Don. For that Lo$ 1883-Java story, you've asked a
while ago for background literature (from dutch people on this list) on
Java, being a former dutch colony. Did you find anything? Cuz I went
through the entire library here and no way that I could find out the
colors of the people's clothes at that time, or good pictures of
specific Indonesian boats. But then again, I'm a comic-fanatic, so I
don't do literature and I don't understand dick from my (halftechnical)
library. Anyway, did you find anything? and how/where?

Paul Jongma
(Email removed)

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Just to follow-up on a recent thread that was left dangling:

Per-Erik was gracious enough to post the first of what I suspect is a
series of *strange* adventures with Dippy Dawg (Goofy) and Toby
Tortoise as inept detectives (or should that be "defectives?). I know
Per-Erik said he had a book which identified it as a Swedish tale, but
Francois said:

FRANCOIS:
> Wait... the first page of the story on your web page is identical to
> page one of the "Def/tective agency !" as published in Disney comics p.
> 80, and credited to Wilfred Haughton (from the English MM Weekly).

so I did a search in the DC database to find the original presentation of
of this tale with no results. I checked under "The Detective Agency",
"The Defective Agency", "The Detective Bureau", "The Defective Bureau"
and "Toby Tortoise" and even "Def/tective agency" as written by
Francois, with no luck. It could be that it is not yet in the database.

I realize (and appreciate) the *gag* in the title of the tale, but can
anyone provide the *regular expression* for the title and give the date
of it's first printed appearance (I guess in that English MM Weekly)?

Also, I'm curious about the title, I have shared with Per-Erik, the
difference in the way Americans would find the Title gag funny (that it
should be the "T" that is crossed out, with an "F" place above it, and
that the way the gag is expressed in Swedish, *TO ME* is like telling the
punchline before telling the joke... I have noticed a lot of cultural
differences in the way different countries express jokes (gags) and this
tale is a good example of those differences... I am in no way saying that
is a bad thing, only interesting (to me). Anyhow, I was wondering if my
suspicions were correct. How is the title expressed in the English
version?

As to another perspective on the tale, I find the writer's interpretation
of Toby Tortoise as inconsistent with the way Toby is presented in
the two Disney cartoons. In the toons he seems to be slow and careful
(his motto), but definitely not dimwitted, but in the Def/tective Agency
tale Toby comes off as being even dimmer than Dippy...and that doesn't
seem right. Is this an example of a poor interpretation by a creator,
or did other comicstrip writers present Toby as being this dim as well?
I know he appeared in other comics outside of this series, but I have
not seen any so I don't know how he was preceived by other writers.

Thank you again Per-Erik, and I hope you will continue to share more
scans as time allows.

-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html

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Hi, folks!

I have been off this list for quite some time, although some of you may
remember me from days past. Now I am back, however, at least for a while.

As for the present matter, I would like to get in touch with some Italian
(or other) member who has access to Topolino 737. I am interested to know
some details about the first story therein, titled "Paperino e il
predominio raggiunto", which happens to be pencilled by Scarpa, by the
way.

The reason I want to do this is that, in the Swedish translation of this
story (in Kalle Ankas Pocket 59), Donald is training ju-jutsu. This is
also my own personal recreation (when I am not reading Disney comics, of
course), which makes me rather interested in what the original has to say.

Thus, I would particularly want to know if it is mentioned exactly what
martial art Donald is practising in the original. I also have some
questions regarding colouring and things, but that is perhaps better
carried out by private mail so the majority of members need not be
bothered with boring stuff like that.

Does anyone know about any other Disney comics (or any comics) where
ju-jutsu (jiujitsu, ju jitsu, etc) is used or mentioned? I already know
about Barks' "Vacation Time".

/Fredrik

RICH:
>As to another perspective on the tale, I find the writer's
interpretation
>of Toby Tortoise as inconsistent with the way Toby is presented in
>the two Disney cartoons. In the toons he seems to be slow and careful
>(his motto), but definitely not dimwitted, but in the Def/tective
Agency
>tale Toby comes off as being even dimmer than Dippy...and that doesn't
>seem right. Is this an example of a poor interpretation by a creator,
>or did other comicstrip writers present Toby as being this dim as well?

In Al Taliaferro's "Boarding School Mystery" (1934), Toby and
*Max Hare* (the obvious choice) are detectives, with Toby certainly
being the keener and more careful one of the two. As one character
scoffs to Max near the end, "Slow, patient Toby solved the crime while
*you* were far away!" Well, okay, Max was actually more useful than
that... but not much!
Actually, Toby seems a little more dimwitted in his second
cartoon appearance (the boxing match cartoon). Still, I think he's
better as a smart character.

David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>

Don M:
> Anyway, I think Harry was mostly just calling attention
> to his own powers of observation, not claiming you'd done
> "wrong". I know if I noticed an inconsistency between a story of
> yours and one of Barks, I'd feel pretty smug about it, and might
> be motivated to brag.

Thanks for these flattering words. 8-)
You are probably right though, even if I only brought up the subject
after someone else started about the time frame of that particular
story.

--Harry.

My wife found some Whitman Disney comics from the late 70s in her
mom's old stuff, and I was just wondering if there is something like
an online source where I can see what they are worth. Not much
probably, but I am just curious, since those are the oldest comics I
have now.
In case one of you knows more, it's
Donald Duck # 208, 209, 210
Mickey Mouse # 212
Chip n Dale #72

Also, if anyone has any double issues of any comic book with Barks or
Rosa stories that you want to "get rid of", please let me know!

Thanks a lot, and have a great day!

==
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DONALD D. MARKSTEIN:
> I know if I noticed an inconsistency between a story of
> yours and one of Barks, I'd feel pretty smug about it, and might
> be motivated to brag.

This kind of reminds me of Donald Knuth's "TeX" typesetting program. The
author is so sure that the program iss bug free (having done everything
short of proving it to be mathematically correct), that he has offered
a reward to anyone who can find a bug, doubling the amount for each
successive bug found. For those who don't know, Donald Knuth is still
one of the top computer scientists in the world and he is not bankrupt,
although he has honored his promise: the checks were few, and, anyway,
people who have found bugs prefer to frame their checks rather than cache
them. (Why would you cache a check for a few dollars, when you can show
it as proof that you managed to find a bug in one of the most robust
programs in the world?) Similarly, Don's position at the top is not
threatened by the few inconsistencies that have been found (the point
being that they *are* few). Finding one says more about the person who
found it and their powers of observation than about Don's stories.

> There's a similar situation in the Sherlock Holmes
> stories -- in "The Final Problem", the opening of the story is
> where Watson first hears of Professor Moriarty, and by the time
> the story is over, Moriarty is dead. But in "The Valley of Fear"
> (written later but occurring earlier in continuity), Watson knows
> all about him. The nit-picking continuity freak says the author
> "added" the bit about Watson learning of Moriarty's existence as
> an easy way to introduce him to the reader. But the guy who JUST
> reads for pleasure says, who cares? They're both good stories.

This is totally off topic, but I can't help mentioning that "Valley of
Fear" is my least favorite of the Sherlock Holmes stories, and not because
of the Moriarty business. De gustibus et coloribus non disputandum,
I guess.

> I only know about the one Scarpa story I worked on for
> Gladstone, "The Man from Oola-Oola".

Since you worked on the English version of this story, I wonder if you can
answer a question on it:

***SPOILER WARNING***

I'm quoting from memory here, so please forgive the vagueness:

The story ended with Scrooge giving the expensive computer to
Mr. whatshisname to atone for having misjudged him. Scrooge justifies
his generocity by saying that, in the years that had passed, that old
vacuum tube computer had become obsolete, and was practically worthless
these days. From the flow of the story, however, it would seem that
Scrooge had tracked the guy immediately after leaving, so the gift was
given while the computer was still worth its weight in dollars, thus
making Scrooge's act comparable to his having given his stash of Gold
to Goldie in "Back to the Klondike".

Do you remember what the original ending of the story was? If there was
no mention of the computer having become obsolete, why was this introduced
in the English version, thus reducing the impact of the original ending?

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