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Yesterday, I e-mailed as many comic book people as I could find
addresses for to help spread the word about Carl Barks, occasionally if
I couldn't find an e-mail address I pasted my message in guestbooks.
One of these guest books was on Charles Vess's official site. (If you
haven't heard of Charles, he's a fantastic artist who tends to mostly do
fairy tale type image, his most recent well known work was the art for
Neil Gaiman's wonderful novella, STARDUST.) I saw Charles at a
convention a few years ago, and when he was asked what was something
he'd like to do that he hadn't had the opportunity to do. He said, "I'd
like to do an Uncle Scrooge." (and I would love to see it if he did)
Anyway, I posted my message on his website, and Charles posted a very
nice response to it which I thought you might all like to read. (My
message is right beneath it if you care to look.)

So here's the url:
http://www.greenmanpress.com/guestbook/guestbook.html

Hi everyone,

Thanks to a member of this mailing list, I have uploaded 6 of
the Brazilian stories Arthur Faria translated in English. The
entry page is at:
http://members.forez.com/brazilianstories/index.html
The stories are supposed to stay there permanently.

Links to two other Brazilian stories (in Italian and
Portuguese) have been added as well. The site is meant to be
the "Brazilian section" of Disney Comic online (which have
been slightly updated once again, with a link to a
gottfredson story sent by Paolo Castagno
http://members.xoom.it/inducks/extras/mmwwii.htm).

But "Brazilian Disney Comics" is also meant to be a way for
Disney Comic fans used to American (and European) stories to
discover "new worlds".

Arthur:
Thanks for your message, and for the list of translated
Brazilian stories. I plan to put the rest on the web in the
near future.

Favio

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> From: "Alex Bowman"
> But, come on...the Disney Universe IS one universe. A Fantasy Universe.
>

That's strictly a matter of opinion and personal interpretation. Other
writers can do what they wish and other readers can read what they like,
but my stories deal strictly with a Donald Duck Universe where no other
characters exist except Barks Duckburg characters... and it is not a
"fantasy universe" in the fairy tale sense... my version of it is overly
serious, based on the real history and geography of the real world. It is a
fantasy world in the same sense that the world of Asterix seems to be a
past era of the world we live in, except there is a Gaul with an impossibly
tremendous nose and another with an impossibly huge gut, and many other
historical personages drawn in caricature fashion. In my interpretation of
the Duck Universe there are people who also are drawn as caricatures, but
they are still human beings, not ducks or dogs or pigs, and still live in
the normal world (well, hopefully maybe a bit funnier than normal).
Remember this Duckburg world is not a "Disney World"... it was created by
Dell and by Barks. I find it's a bigger challenge and a more satisfying
accomplishment to produce (hopefully) entertaining stories under such
limiting parameters of logic and actual history. Plus, that's the way Barks
did it (unless ordered to do otherwise by his editors) and that's the way I
likes it.

Someone else might enjoy a universe peopled by all the Disney characters at
once where talking super-intelligent chipmunks meet living wooden puppets
and such, and that's fine, but they shouldn't expect anything like that in
*all* stories in a Disney comic, and certainly not in mine.

bhc at primenet.com wrote:

> We American speakers often use the past tense, with emphasis, by
> default when asking questions of that nature.

OK, then it explains that all in a satisfactory way. Thanks.

- Paolo

--
http://members.xoom.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it

Augurati che io non ritrovi mai il fischietto, Calidornia: sarei
un padrone ingordo (Topo the Kid in I TL 274-A)

Hello all

I apologize if I am writing too much. Let me know please if I am. The
first request I made was to see if anyone knew of any OTHER issues of Disney
comics that had character crossovers. I already am in possession of the
three I mentioned.
1)Thumper, 7 Dwarves & Jiminy Cricket
2)Thumper, Wicked Witch & 7 Dwarves
3)Timothy Mouse, Dumbo & Jiminy Cricket

If anyone knows of ANY other issues where characters are placed in story
lines with other unlikely characters.

EXAMPLES) a) Mad Hatter + Ursula
b) Baloo + Pongo the Dalmation
c) Geppetto + Horace Horsecollar

Thank you once again!

alex
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From: "Fernando Ventura" <
>>>>If I put this character
into a more "real"world, living on the 40's in Brazil, I will be doing a
contrariety, because the Brazil we see in "Saludos Amigos" and "The Three
Caballeros"is not REAL, in fact it is Surreal world, and it is one of the
reasons because this films are not very much accept in Brazil, because the
critics didn't see that Disney ARE NOT triyng to represent a realistic
place, they are doing then vision of it.

Right, and this caused me some problems, as well. I was not taking these
two characters from a previous "Universe" -- "The Three Caballeros" was not
a "story" film... it was a fantasy-travelogue where the characters simply
sang and danced and made barely restrained sexual advances toward women
while they introduced other sequences in the film. I wanted to
"reintroduce" Jose Carioca and Panchito Pistoles into Donald's life even
though they had actually never been there before -- I made vague references
to the adventures they'd had and the pretty girls they'd chased, but I
couldn't make any direct references since no old adventures actually
existed, not the way all of Barks' old stories "actually exist" as history
for my normal Duck stories.
Reading my own message in the last Digest -- I think of how Barks limited
his parameters (or wanted to) even more than I do. He originally wanted to
place Donald in a world of realistically drawn humans, but was finally
ordered by his editors to back off from that. So he started using humans
with round black noses and saying they were "dogs". I would imagine these
Barks dog-humans looked very weird in 1948, but I grew up with them to such
an extent that I thought that's how you were supposed to draw humans. I
never for a moment thought those were dogs -- I thought that cartoonists
drew humans with those black snoots -- and all my old comic books that I
drew when I was 7-14 years old were all about humans with round black
noses.
Barks limited himself more than I do in another sense in that he never
allowed himself (for reasons I've never heard) to use ghosts or witches or
the occult, whereas I like to use Sir Quackly as the occasional link
$crooge has with his ancestors. No, Barks' Magica DeSpell was NOT a witch
with occult powers, she was a sorceress, a normal person who needed to use
old wands and to learn ancient spells to perform magic... she used
preternatural powers, not supernatural powers. European writers *after*
Barks turned Magica into a witch. The only two times Barks used actual
witches, in "The Golden Christmas Tree" and "Trick or Treat", it was at the
orders of the bosses.
That reminds me of that idea of crossovers -- in the "Golden Christmas
Tree", Donald actually meets the Witch from "Snow White and the 7 Dwarfs".
The story even opens with him reading in a newspaper "Sightings reported of
figure who looks like Snow White's evil witch". Huh? How could a newspaper
reporter transcend reality to know this?! But this report makes sense to
Donald rather than causing him to say "Who the $#@* is 'Snow White'?" Then
the story goes on to involve Donald in a very boring tale of talking trees
and "saving all the world's Christmas Trees" and other really too-cute,
too-obvious, surreal stuff. I never liked that story and I was delighted to
find out in later years that Barks did not write it, it was all the ideas
of the sorts of editors who would put Huey, Dewey and Louie playing
baseball with a ghost on the cover of a comic, and not see anything
intrinsically wrong with the concept.

Things went fast recently: 4 more Brazilian stories are now
online. I also have added short summaries of the different
Brazilian series (that is "Fethry Kid", "Fethry the
Submariner", "Jungle Fethry", "The New Daisy" and "Fethry the
Red Bat").
There are now only two stories that I'm missing:
B 860038 "It can shine like gold, but..." 8p
B 870143 "The longest duel of the West" 11p
They will hopefully be online soon, and I will of course let
you know.

Favio

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