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Halsten Aastebol
At 08:45 08.08.00 +0200, Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
>WOUTER, 4 AUGUST 2000:
> > And how about his luck? In the first storys Gladstone hasn't got an
> > unusual amount of luck, he's just quite lazy. When did this luck
> > thing get along?
>
>Maybe in the hole-in-one golf story of WDC 96?

No, it was in the adventure story "Race To The South Seas" first published
in the giveaway Boys & Girls March of Comics no 41 in 1949. The next story
including Gladstone's luck should be "Luck Of The North" from OS 256 in
December 1949.

In the whole in one golf story from WDC 96 Gladstone is not lucky. The golf
story in which Gladstone has extremely bad luck just win a prize as
unluckiest golfer is from WDC 131.

Regards
Halsten
F. A. Elliott
Last night I found a copy of Another Rainbow
Publishing's "Carl Barks & the Disney Ducks." It was
in the quarter bin for crying out loud! There's a lot
of neat stuff in it and I really enjoy the inset
gatefold revealing some of Mr. Barks best works.

I also found a box full of copies of Uncle Scrooge
#319
"Son of the Sun" for only 21 cents each. I'll gladly
get one (1) single copy to each person who sends me an
envelope with a comic book sized S.A.S.E. And, please,
fans only! I don't want people turning around trying
to make a quick profit.

There's also one (1) copy of vol 3 of the collected
Don Rosa's Captain Kentucky I can send to the first
e-mail I get with someone telling me they'll send an
envelope including a slightly larger than magazine
sized S.A.S.E.

Please let me know if what I'm doing is wrong for the
DCML. I'm not making any money off of this. I just
want to help fans out. If I'm out of line it won't
happen again.

By the way, I'm keeping the Carl Barks book. It's
super cool!

F.A. Elliott

=====
The 'one' who has a finger on 'it'... scratches against the mahogany lining of a coffin crying, "I am Jonah! I am Jonah! Spit me back out so I may see and feel the light of day again." And, the levithan does not heed for it knows every great epic must come to an 'end.'
A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)

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Daniel Van Eijmeren
DON ROSA and ANTONIO SVEVI, 7 AUGUST 2000:

>> So, *please* relax.

> That's right. Daniel, please relax.

Makes me think: I wish that more people would say that. In daily life,
normally I only hear "hurry up!", "have you done this and that already?",
"I hope you didn't forget to do this and that", etc. etc. :-)

Best wishes,

--- Daniel

"You sit down in your easy chair, Unca Donald!
I'll bring you your slippers!"
Molly Schaaf
Hello!
I am looking for an old cartoon series featuring Professor Ludwig Von Drake.
I believe it was presented by The Wonderful World of Disney possibly called
March of Science. It was an educational, funny cartoon series. I really
want to find this and purchase it. Please e-mail me with any information on
how to find this character in any of his cartoon. Thank you for your time.

Molly Schaaf
mschaaf at iv.com
mollyschaaf at hotmail.com
Don Rosa
...even though I don't understand why we are posting these letters
publicly. But you must have your reasons, so...
I am a comics fan. I was a comics fan for over 35 years when I first
started getting paid to be a comics fan (writing and drawing Duck comics).
I still think of myself as nothing more than a comics fan, because unless I
was a huge fan of comics I would find ways of making more money, more
easily, than by doing Disney comic work. For years throughout the 70s &
early 80s I was one of America's most prolific and widest-read
comics-fan-writers, and that was in the days before fanzines paid
anything -- it was all done for free, just like writing to a modern ML,
done solely to express my ideas... in my own fashion.
And yet, I very seldom express myself on this list other than to answer
direct questions. But sometimes I DO express myself. I'm extremely sorry if
that intimidates you or if you think you need to protect others from that
intimidation. But you'll need to find some way to deal with that other than
very, very, very politely telling me to "shaddap".
Once before, with exactly this sort of message, you worried me enough that
this idea of yours was valid that I actually decided to swear off having
anything to do with this ML. But after a few months I realized I was being
foolish, that I would not give up being a comics fan because one person
thinks I should not express ideas in my own way in public. And if I express
my thoughts with a "firmness" that you don't like, sorry for my lack of
finesse, but I only say what I think. If someone disagrees with me, they
should just say so, their words are as important as mine on here; if
someone is afraid to do so, they need to deal with their lack of
self-respect and learn I'm no big deal, they don't need your protection.

> I hope we both can agree that
> contributing to this list should be fun, without the feeling of
> being in some kind of battle.

??? As near as I can tell, this feeling is something that's only in *your*
mind. I encourage you to get over it. Or you'll again make yourself unhappy
the next time I firmly express my ideas to my friends.
Now, let's stop putting these personal-angst messages here where they don't
belong.
Fluks, H.W.
Eric Chun wrote:

> A couple of photos from the San Diego Comic
> Con are below.
> http://mightyhero.homepage.com/dcml1.jpg
> http://mightyhero.homepage.com/dcml2.jpg

Thanks, Eric! I made some photos myself. I'll scan and upload them in a few
days.

As can be seen from these pictures, and from a previous posting by me, I
have been traveling through California and Oregon, the past weeks. I just
returned, and am now reading about 300 e-mails...

My trip started in San Diego (the Comic Con), where I met a lot of people
again, or for the first time (hi Michael, Barry, Todd, Don, Eric, Dana,
John, Michael T., Dave, Joe, Bob, Michel!). I got an interesting view on the
American comics world. It's very different from the European world. Almost
every time someone said "I'm sure you know the famous..." I had to reply
that I never heard of the person! On the other hand, very little European
comic material there.

I also got to read Don Rosa's new story with the Three Caballeros. To my
surprise, I liked the story very much! I didn't expect anything from a story
featuring Carioca and Panchito, but Don handled them very well.

Saturday evening was a special dinner celebrating a reunion of EC comic
creators. I had a glance of "the rich and/or famous" people like Bill Elder,
Bruce Hamilton, Russ Cochran. Don Rosa was there too, to explain to me who
all the people were. And also to connect the EC-evening to Disney comics.

I also attended a few panels. One about the history of USA comic fandom:
this was very educating for me, as a European. The other one was a
presentation by Scott Shaw, about the silliness of old American comic
covers. Recommended to me by Joe Torcivia. It was very funny indeed (thanks
Joe!).

After San Diego, I stayed a few days at Dave Rawson's house in Hollywood.
Then I went up North, to Grants Pass, Oregon, to meet Gerry Tank and his
family.

Gerry and I went to Barks' house, to visit him briefly. Barks can only have
visits of about 5 minutes. He then sits on a chair in his bedroom. When I
visited him, he had a remarkably good day. He was reading e-mail, in printed
form (large print so he could read it more easily).
Though he obviously was very ill, he still was the witty and clever person
that I imagined him to be, judging from reports from other people and from
video tapes. He was delighted when we told him that his name was on the
cover of a European comic now and then, and that it would make the comic
sell better.

One (more or less) interesting detail: Barks never listened to music when
working. Only recently, people bought him a CD player. He likes songs by
people like Bing Crosby.

After my visit to the Tanks, I went to Michael and Janet Gilbert, who live
only a few hours up North. Just like at the Rawson's and Barks' home, I got
a view on the office of real Disney comic writers. 8-)

I had a fun time with the people I mentioned above, and I've been to several
other places in California, Oregon, and Nevada. But talking about all that
would become too off-topic for a Disney comics mailing list.
Except maybe the fact that I drove through Merrill, Oregon, place of Barks'
younger years. But the only interesting thing about that is that there is
absolutely nothing of interest in Merrill!

Anyway, a big THANKS to Michael Naiman, Dave & Eileen Rawson, Gerry & Nancy
Tank, and Michael & Janet Gilbert, for providing parts of an unforgettable
holiday!

--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Don (to Daniel):

> I don't understand why we are posting these letters
> publicly.

I think it is mainly to let other people know that you are not some kind of
a godess who tells The Absolute Truth. As you wrote:

> I only say what I think. If someone disagrees
> with me, they
> should just say so, their words are as important as mine on here;

You and I know that. And Daniel knows that (or he should know by now). But
some other people on here don't.
An annoying example was when some people wrote "Everyone knows Scrooge died
in 1967". This was presented by them as a *fact*, while *you* only wrote it
as *your* view on the Duckworld. As important and valid as any other's.

I think Daniel was not trying to tell you to "shaddap", but to tell yout to
use more wordings that express that the writing is just your opinion. Since
you have become more than "just a fan" now (at least in Europe 8-), your
words are given more weight than others people's.

In e-mail jargon, the term "IMHO" is often used (In My Humble Opinion, or In
My Honest Opinion - usually I'm just using IMO without the H). I think your
mails should always be read with an "IMO" in mind. And if people do that,
nothing bad has happened, and we can all relax.

Oh - BTW, this is all IMO, of course. 8-)

> If someone disagrees with me, they
> should just say so, their words are as important as mine on here; if
> someone is afraid to do so, they need to deal with their lack of
> self-respect and learn I'm no big deal, they don't need your
> protection.

I think there's a cultural difference here between Americans and Europeans.
Americans are apparently taught from the beginning to stand up for
themselves and be assertive. This is much less the case in Europe.

--Harry.
(Amateur mass-psychologist)
Kriton Kyrimis
TIMO:

>> I think modern vcrs in
>> other countries will now play american vhs tapes and
>> vice-versa. This is definitely a learning experience.
>
> Well, er how modern vcr one should have?

Many (but not all) recent European VCR models can now reproduce American
NTSC tapes on PAL TVs by producing a non-standard signal that is within
the tolerances of most (but again, not all) PAL TVs. I bought such a
beast in January, and when I timidly asked the salesperson if they had
such a thing, he showed me half the models on display! Given this, I would
suggest that if you live in Europe and have bought a VCR within the last
couple of years, check its manual, as it may have this capability.

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"What's the point of buying a toaster with artificial intelligence, if you
don't like toast?"
-----
Roger Brown
>No, it was in the adventure story "Race To The South Seas" first
>published in the giveaway Boys & Girls March of Comics no 41 in
>1949. The next story including Gladstone's luck should be "Luck Of
>The North" from OS 256 in December 1949.

How does the "Rival Beachcombers" (WDC 103) tale fit in to this
sequence of stories about Gladstone's luck? Seems to me that
represented both Gladstone's lazy nature AND his luck!! It appeared
in April 1949 and was one of my favorites as an 8-year-old just
falling in love with WD C&S!

(ever lurking) Roger Brown...50+ years a Barks fan!

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Don Rosa
Let's talk about something more pleasant and more interesting --

Answering a query recently, I think I mentioned I am now working on a story
of $crooge in 1906 Panama. And as regards how I was saying how I place my
stories in an extremely "real" world --- in my research throughout the
local libraries, University archives, military-modeler hobby shops and the
Internet, I have found that I can't locate a reference to what the military
uniforms as worn by 1906 Panamanian soldiers looked like. Since Panama is a
former part of Colombia that broke away (with American help, so we could
build the canal), I also searched for the same info on Colombia, also with
no luck. So, I decided to call the president of Panama.

Well, not exactly, but almost. I called someone, a friend of mine, who has
been a candidate for the Panamanian presidency for many years. His name is
Ruben Blades, a TV/movie actor, a very famous (so I hear) "salsa"
singer/performer in Europe and Central/South America, and a collector of
old comic books who I see every year in San Diego. (He's the only other
hoomin bean I know of who has a full set of Dell FOUR COLORs, #1-1354.) I
was watching for him this year to tell him about this story, but he was a
no-show.
He says he's working in a new TV cop series which is why he wasn't at the
con, but he will call Panama to see if he can find someone to fax me a
photo reference. (Maybe he *will* call the president, who knows?) I've
already decided, as difficult as it is for me to find this info, that if I
do get the correct uniform on my characters, there will probably only be
three people on earth who will know it: me, Ruben, and whoever he calls in
Panama. But that's plenty, as far as I'm concerned -- sometimes it's almost
more fun that way! Another lil' private joke to myself. (I do this all the
time -- someday I'll make a list of the accurate details in my stories that
surely no one ever even noticed.)
Wouter
I wrote:
> > What I noticed was that Gladstone was reasonable taller than Donald,
> > which makes sence, since he's a goose. But there are a lot of storys in
> > which they have the same seize. Has Carl Barks himself made storys
> > in which their size is different or just other animators?

Daniel responded (which I thank him for, by the way):
> I don't know what you mean. Please explain.

Well, in the first storys with Gladstone from Barks, he was bigger than
Donald. I ment to ask if Barks himself later once made their size equeal, or
if only other animators had drawn Gladstone the same size as Donald. But I
looked in later on Barks storys and found out that Gladstone's size changed
into the same size of ducks in his story's also. Just look into lot's of old
Bark-storys and you will see their difference in size before.
Don Rosa
Eek. I just realized that I never came to the reason that I was telling of
my trouble locating a pictorial reference for early 20th century Panamanian
military uniforms! Since I don't know if Ruben's friend in Panama will
respond to his message, I meant to ask if anyone within earshot of this ML
thinks they can help me on this matter, please let me know!
Thanks!
Stefan Cosser
Hi,
Does anyone know of any good comic shops in london? (preferably north-west
london) Where can I buy a book of Don Rosas works? (I really want "The Life
and Times of $crooge McDuck" and other stories by Rosa in one book.)
Thanks,
SteVe
p.s. http://www.itn.is/~jmc/donald/index.html

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Marco Barlotti
Sorry for the intrusion...
My mail to Alexgoe at aol.com is bouncing. In case he manages to read this
digest, I just wanted him to give a look at

http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Alex/lago.gif
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Alex/Norge.gif
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Alex/rocce.gif
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Alex/tamburino.gif

(these images will mean nothing to others, sorry!)

Marco

http://marcobar.inducks.net
Halsten Aastebol
At 09:12 09.08.00 -0600, Roger Brown wrote:
>>No, it was in the adventure story "Race To The South Seas" first
>>published in the giveaway Boys & Girls March of Comics no 41 in 1949. The
>>next story including Gladstone's luck should be "Luck Of The North" from
>>OS 256 in December 1949.
>
>How does the "Rival Beachcombers" (WDC 103) tale fit in to this sequence
>of stories about Gladstone's luck? Seems to me that represented both
>Gladstone's lazy nature AND his luck!! It appeared in April 1949 and was
>one of my favorites as an 8-year-old just falling in love with WD C&S!

IMO "Rival Beachcombers" only hints at the fact that Gladstone might be
lucky. Although in retrospect it is easy to view some of the antics of this
story as the result of Gladstone's luck. But Gladstone was not yet "lucky
Gladstone" by this time. He became that later the same year. Yes, it's a
great story!

Also, it should be pointed out that I don't know the exact publication date
for "Race To The South Seas" apart from it being published sometime during
1949, probably well before "Luck Of The North" (December) and maybe even
before "Rival Beachcombers" (April). Nor do I know the submission dates for
those comics.

BTW, here is a list of the first appearances of Gladstone (through 1952)
that I posted to Daniel van Eijmeeren:

WDC 88, Jan-48 "Wintertime Wager" (the ice bathing story)
WDC 95, Aug-48 "Gladstone Returns" (getting money for Daisy's club)
WDC 96, Sept-48 "Links Hijinks" (whole in one story)
WDC 103, Apr-49 "Rival Beaccombers" (searching for the maharajah's lost ruby)
MoC 41, ???-49 "Race To The South Seas" (Introducing Gladstone's Luck)
WDC 110, Nov-49 "The Goldilocks Gambit"
OS 256, Dec-49 "Luck Of The North" (Donald is already fed up with
Gladstone's luck)
WDC 111, Dec-49 "Donald's Love Letters" (This story finally establish the
rivalry between Donald and Gladstone to win Daisy's heart, although this
rivalry is hinted at in WDC 95)
OS 263, Feb-50 "Trail Of The Unicorn"
WDC 117, June-50 "Wild About Flowers" (Picking a flower for Daisy.
This is the first story in WDC to include Gladstone's Luck)
CP 2, Nov-50 "You Can't Guess"
WDC 126, Mar-51 "A Financial Fable" (In this story Donald and Gladstone are
friends!)
WDC 128, May-51 "Knightly Rivals"
WDC 131, Aug-51 "Gladstone's Luck"
OS 367, Jan-52 "A Christmas For Shacktown"
WDC 136, Jan-52 "Gladstone's Usual Very Good Year"
WDC 140, May-52 "Gladstone's Terrible Secret" (First cameo appearance of
Gyro Gearloose)
WDC 143, Aug-52 "Gemstone Hunters"
OS 422, Sept-52 "The Gilded Man"
WDC 147, Dec-52 "A Charitable Chore"

Regards
Halsten
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