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DYER,SONIA (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Like Fernando, I LIKE Ludwig von Drake. He's my favorite, after Scrooge and
Gyro. Can someone explain to me why he's considered "dead in Duckburg"? I
sure would like to see him in comics.

Sonia Dyer
Fernando Ventura
Hi all!

I'm translating a Renato Canini's Z? Carioca story, that Amadeu appear! Probably you all will can read it next week! Favio sad to me that he can put the scans on his site about Brazilian Disney Comics, so just wait!

The history is:

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Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
I choose to go along more with Rosa's duckburg than others, because
Rosa's obviously has more thought put into it. Other writers tend to
change the "facts" as they see fit to make a story flow better. As most
of us know, Rosa *never* does that. I'm not saying that other writers
and artists don't make quality stories, I love to read Scarpa, (though I
must admit, his treatment of Scrooge sometimes bewilders me) Van Horn,
Rota, Block and most of the others, but the Barks/Rosa universe makes the
most sense to me anyway.

Actually, Van Horn has always seemed to operate in a "generic" Duckburg,
that has very few characters that aren't in everyone else's stories (I
love his stories with Uncle Rumpus!), but the archetectural bits in his
stories (i.e. the money bin being on a large hill, the Coot statue) are
all right on with the Barks vision.

Rodney Bowcock

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F. A. Elliott
Dear
Sir, (Mr. Farell I believe)

Your e-mail was erased from my files somehow. Please
send it to me again. Everybody else ignore this, but
trust me it has to do with this page. By the way, very
interesting conversations your having about Duckburk
lately! Oh, well, thanks and God bless.

F.A. Elliott.

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The 'one' who has a finger on 'it'... scratches against the mahogany lining of a coffin crying, "I am Jonah! I am Jonah! Spit me back out so I may see and feel the light of day again." And, the levithan does not heed for it knows every great epic must come to an 'end.'
A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)

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Didier Ghez
Hi,

A few weeks ago on this list Don mentionned that he had created four drawing
to be auction in a Comic convention, those drawings being "Disney" parodies
of American Superhero comics.

Did any one manage to get photocopies that could be scanned and shown
somewhere on the web ?

Best.

Didier
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F. A. Elliott
I was reading the text piece in the back of Uncle
Scrooge #219, and was under the impression that a
scene involving Glomgold, Scrooge, Donald, and the
newphews was dropped. In the text I think Don Rosa
states he wanted to have a conversation take place
around a campfire between the boys and Glomgold, where
he's asked why he's so driven to prove himself better
than Scrooge.

At this point Glomgold would've related a tale
similiar to what Don Rosa eventually used in the Life
& Times of Scrooge McDuck.

Now I know the word count for the Son of the Sun story
was trimmed down, but I didn't think any scenes were
dropped. Now I want to read the Pertwillaby Papers
adventure Son of the Sun was based off of. Oh, well,
there's suppose to be a collection coming out for
worldwide distribution soon from Norway.

"Warning Spoiler! Don't read unless you've read it
too"

Anyway rereading the story again, I really got a kick
when Scrooge nonchalantly points out he's already
radioed the authorities and claimed ownership of the
gold. Great scene where Glomgold is running off and
then stops on a dime when learning this. Scrooge is in
the middle of fixing eggs and it's agreed on they'll
all take sunny side up.

Another great moment is when Glomgold yells at the old
guide at the end of the story, which we saw near the
beginning of the story, "Did you find the hidden
gold?" And Glomgold explodes, "Yes blast it! It's at
the bottom of that confounded lake!" "Well isn't that
what I always said," replys the guide? Just classic!

Still, Sun of the Sun is not my favorite Don Rosa
story. That one goes to Return to Xanadu. But, of
course I still have to read Last Sled to Dawson. Oh,
well, so long Scroogy! God bless.

F.A. Elliott.

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A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)

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Gerstein, David DK - ECN
WOUTER:
"To make things even more complicated: isn't Ellsworth based on one
of the ravens from the movie DUMBO?"

In a word - no.

The crows (not ravens) in DUMBO were, for better or worse,
characterized as being black American Southerners, speaking in Southern
dialect.

Ellsworth (a mynah bird, not a crow or raven) speaks English with no
dialect at all, and his personality is nothing like any of Dumbo's crows. In
the stereotypical terms of 1949, when he was created, Ellsworth is evidently
not supposed to be African-American - he's just a black-feathered bird.

David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
Paolo Castagno
Hello,

I just scanned and uploaded an old Mickey story: "Mr. Slicker and
the Egg Robbers"
(http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?YM+003) that
can be found on

http://digilander.iol.it/inducks/YM_003

A pretty interesting story with weird situations for today's
scripts: Mickey tries to commit suicide, Minnie is going to marry
Slicker because of her parents poverty, etc...

This story has also another couple of things that puzzle me: in
the sixth strip
(http://digilander.iol.it/inducks/YM_003/YM_003_006.jpg) on the
first panel appear a character who, IMHO, reminds a lot Oswald
the Lucky Rabbit, then in the second one there is a guy who is
"without any doubt" Cat Nipp.

What do you think about.

And again there is a character on the second panel from the
following strip
(http://digilander.iol.it/inducks/YM_003/YM_003_007.jpg) very
very strange: a sort of Mickey Mouse made of wool...

Ciao,

- Paolo

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Arie Fachrisal
> From: "F. A. Elliott" <eliot508 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Just for the Guy in Indonesia who wanted the interview on CD
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Dear
> Sir, (Mr. Farell I believe)
>
> Your e-mail was erased from my files somehow. Please
> send it to me again. Everybody else ignore this, but
> trust me it has to do with this page. By the way, very
> interesting conversations your having about Duckburk
> lately! Oh, well, thanks and God bless.
>
> F.A. Elliott.
Thanks for the botification, Mr. FA Elliott. An e-mail has been sent to you.

> From: "Didier Ghez" <dghez at hotmail.com>
> Hi,
> A few weeks ago on this list Don mentionned that he had created four
drawing
> to be auction in a Comic convention, those drawings being "Disney"
parodies
> of American Superhero comics.
>
> Did any one manage to get photocopies that could be scanned and shown
> somewhere on the web ?
I think they weren't drawing of parodies American superhero comics. EC
comics if i'm not mistaken. btw to all EC fans, i'm saving enough money to
buy an EC small series. One thing i gotta know, are they really spooky? Are
they that good? Are they still good to read for the younger generations of
today, especially nonAmerican??? Off-topic of course, sorry about that.

Best regards,
Arie Fachrisal
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Son Of the Sun is one of my favorite Duck stories ever. While the
artwork isn't the very best, it's good, and the story is one of Don's
best. I kinda like how wordy it is. It took me quite a while to read it
the first time around.

If you've never seen Last Sled To Dawson, and you like Xanadu and Son Of
the Sun you're really in for a treat. That was actually one of the first
Disney comics I ever read, and while I didn't really understand some of
the references I really enjoyed it, and I appreciated it even more after
reading Back To the Klondike and North Of the Yukon. It's possibly the
best story from Don's "early" Gladstone period.

Rodney Bowcock

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Fernando Ventura
Hi all!

I'm translating a Renato Canini's Z? Carioca story, that Amadeu appear!
Probably you all will can read it next week! Favio sad to me that he can put
the scans on his site about Brazilian Disney Comics, so just wait!
For some reason, this message didn't appear into the DCML when I send it for
the first time...

The history is:

Z? Milion?rio
B 770012

Fernando!!!
F. A. Elliott
Mr. Don Rosa may tape some additional studio shots for
me to tack on to our interview, showing you a more
revealing look at his studio.

Hopefully, he may also answer a question about
fanzines that I didn't really chase after when I had
the chance. But, first he has to get back from Spain.

So I'm very thankful for the time Mr. Rosa has
consented towards me. These additional efforts will
supply us with a very thorough picture of "Don Rosa."
Thanks and God bless.

F.A. Elliott.

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A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)

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Dan Shane
DAVID:

I don't know where you originally hail from, but the crows in DUMBO were not
speaking a Southern USA dialect, but instead were using what one might refer
to as a "jive" dialect. Their drawl and mannerisms my strike
non-Southerners as being similar to the way we speak in Kentucky and states
even further south, but their patter is really just a copy of the way blacks
who played in big bands like Cab Calloway's and Duke Ellington's would
speak, no matter what part of the US they might actually be from.

Dan Shane (. danshane at bellsouth.net )

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerstein, David DK - ECN" <DGE at ECN.egmont.com>
To: "'Wouter'" <Wouter at agroweb.nl>; <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 7:30 AM
Subject: RE: Ellsworth

>
> The crows (not ravens) in DUMBO were, for better or worse,
> characterized as being black American Southerners, speaking in Southern
> dialect.
>
> David Gerstein
> <dge at ecn.egmont.com>
>
Kriton Kyrimis
ARIE:

> buy an EC small series. One thing i gotta know, are they really spooky? Are
> they that good? Are they still good to read for the younger generations of
> today, especially nonAmerican??? Off-topic of course, sorry about that.

I know I'm going to speak heresy, but my feeling about EC comics, at
least those reprinted first by Gladstone and then by Russ Cochran some
years ago, is that they are *boring*. Admittedly there are some very
ingenious plot twists, but when you know that the aliens are going to
be nasty, and that when you see a married couple one of them is going to
murder the other by the end of the story, you can't help feeling bored,
no matter what ingenious way the aliens have found to be nasty this time,
or how igenious a way someone finds to murder their spouse.

Despite these negative comments, I think that you will find reading a
sampling of the EC stories quite enjoyable. I know I did at first, and it
was only after reading several stories that I started getting this feeling
of boredom. As to your worries about whether they might appeal to modern
non-Americans, although the characters in the stories are stereotypical
white Americans of the fifties, the situations in which these characters
find themselves are weird enough that this becomes largely irrelevant.

(Speaking of EC comics, are they still being reprinted? I stopped
subscribing a long time ago, and at that time the reprints weren't
doing very well, as I remember readers were being asked to buy multiple
copies(!) to help out.)

Spa fon,

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Jörg Schubert
Hallo,

im new here and love all of disney comics in TV ,..

im very alone and want find friends to talk about disney and other things

Who want write me back ?

Thanks

sincerely

jean from germany
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