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In a message dated 08/20/2000 6:03:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dcml-admin at stp.ling.uu.se writes:

> (Speaking of EC comics, are they still being reprinted? I stopped
> subscribing a long time ago, and at that time the reprints weren't
> doing very well, as I remember readers were being asked to buy multiple
> copies(!) to help out.)

Well aparently in the USA, they outsell Disney Comics! ; )
(but then all comics do! - there are still no USA Disney Comics)

In the current Previews, the EC (Gemstone) titles for October will be Crime
Patrol and War Against Crime. I would suggest that a newcomer to EC start
with what I consider their best comics: Shock Suspenstories and Crime
Suspenstories. Unless you really enjoyed the TV show, I'd skip the horror
comics till later.

Steven Rowe

Ola:

<<I just wanted to mention a funny coincidence concerning Mr John Lustig.
In Sweden the three little pigs are called Bror Duktig (Practical Pig)
Bror Hurtig (the one with the flat hat) and Bror Lustig (the one with
the small white kinda round on the top hat). Bror Lustig would translate
to Brother Funny approximately. (If anyone has a better translation
please tell us about it.)
Now I'm not trying to poke fun of you John, just pointing out an amusing
Disney relation that you maybe didn't know about.
>>

A few years ago, my wife was rather enamored with the idea of getting one of
those little pigs (a potbellied pig?) as a pet. It wasn't practical and we
never did get one. But now I guess I can tell her that she got her little pig
after all-- me. Hmm, well I guess there are worse animals to have my name
associated with.

Actually, Egmont or one of it's associate publishers (Ehapa) puts out a
digest with the word Lustiges in the title. I'm told that Lustig means
funny/happy/joy of life in German and other Germanic languages. I've always
thought that was a pretty nice association...especially since I write humor.

--John

> From: Didier Ghez [mailto:dghez at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:59 AM

> A few weeks ago on this list Don mentionned that he had
> created four drawing
> to be auction in a Comic convention, those drawings being
> "Disney" parodies of American Superhero comics.

I have photocopies of these drawings, but the problem is that they are A3
size, which means I can't put them on a scanner without damaging them. I
have some small (A6-size) xeroxes too. I think I'll scan those later this
week.

The subject of the drawings is a parody on various EC comics (not exactly
superhero, indeed): "What if EC Comics had the Disney licence instead of
Dell?"

They are:
1. Tales from the Bin #39 (featuring The Bin-Keeper, The Old[?] Witch, The
Volt-Keeper);
2. Walt Disney's Comics and SuspenStories #24;
3. Web-Footed Tales #22;
4. Weird Inventions #15.

The first one, which is also my personal favourite, was the one that brought
the largest amount of money on the auction.
(This money was for the benefit of the EC reunion.)

--Harry.

John:

> A few years ago, my wife was rather enamored with the idea of
> getting one of those little pigs as a pet. It wasn't
> practical and we never did get one.

So if the pig *were* Practical Pig, then you would have gotten it?

--Harry.
(Sorry, I just couldn't resist 8-)

Back from Northwest Spain...
I browsed through the Digests that awaited me along with piles of other
e-mail -- if I missed any direct questions, please repost them.
The only thing I should reply to is the one or two members who were puzzled
or irritated by my saying that "Ludwig Von Drake, Fethry and Moby Duck were
officially dead in the Duck Universe". Since I work only for the Egmont
weeklies, I neglected to realize that I needed to be more specific.
Those three characters are officially dead in the Egmont comics. The Egmont
digests are an entirely different Universe to the Egmont publishers (even
though I've mentioned to them that I don't know how many of their readers
notice that), so their digest / pocket books employ a different set of
characters and a different art style, even if it is material produced by
Egmont in the "Italian style", neither of which are allowed inside the
larger "comic book" style publications. This is not a statement of my
preferences... yes, I very adamantly and chauvinistically stick to my
interpretation of Barks' Universe and nothing will change that... but even
*I* don't agree with this ban completely since I sneak Ludwig into my
stories when the editor is not on his toes. But my point was to tell the
person who was excited about seeing the mini-series of comics based on
those three characters that he should not expect to see them turning up in
the Egmont weeklies in any stories. The mini-series was put together of
reprints of old stories by the Norwegian branch, but it's the central
office in Copenhagen who manages the creation of the new stories. When I
found out about the Norwegian series myself, I inquired about whether this
meant I could now do stories with Ludwig, and I was told, no, Ludwig and
the other two are still officially "non-characters" in the Egmont comic
book Duck Universe, and the main office looked, perhaps, askance at that
Norwegian series.
If readers dislike this situation, I guess they can feel free to disagree
with Egmont about it -- if someone succeeds in getting them to change their
editorial position, great by me! -- I can continue to ignore Fethry and
Moby, and use Ludwig when I wish. (Lugwig is a fine character as far as I'm
concerned -- his usage on TV in 1961-62 when I was a tad was pleasant
enough, and Barks did use him once so a Barksian-precedent has been set for
me. Also, he allows me to marry off $crooge's sister Matilda who, on my
Duck Family Tree, is his wife. However, Egmont would not allow me to use
Ludwig on the Tree they commissioned me to draw for them from my private
notes. But notice that Fethry *is* on that Tree I did because, at the time,
Egmont had yet to decide he was "nonexistent" and insisted I include him.
So, you see, they do change their minds from time to time. (But, I warn
you...... that was pre-Byron. If you think *I* am strict about my ideas of
what the Disney Universe should be, you don't know editor Byron Erickson,
and I admire him for his steadfastness to his own ideals. A man after my
own heart, and who glommed it well over 10 years ago.)

Anyway, yeah, I'm back from the comic con in Spain. It was a bit dreary
since it rained nearly the whole time I was there, proving that the rain in
Spain does not fall mainly where Prof. Higgins claims. Still, the
exposition was quite impressive -- this was a government sponsored show
(the major city of A Coru?a, check your maps) and they had 10+ artists on
hand and a giant and lavish display in a 2 block long expo center downtown
of over 700 original comics pages. There were 12-foot tall comic character
statues all over downtown, and a large outdoor shopping mall of dealers on
the city's main street. Lots of reporters and TV crews and all that. CNN
was there, too.
Even though the rain prevented me from doing my usual sightseeing hikes,
Saturday night made the trip worthwhile! I got to be one of the guests of
honor at a *state dinner* given by the mayor in the banquet hall of the
city hall. Now, in America this would be okay, but in Spain this was like
being dined by a king in a palace! The city hall *is* a palace by American
standards -- a huge, beautiful, ancient, multi-spired spired
"cathedral"-lookin' building on the main city square which is, itself,
impressive enough filled with the usual number of fountains, statues and
tourists. We entered the main doors and up through the grand staircase. And
after a reception in a hall filled with suits of armor and flags and many
ancient gifts and trophies given to past administrations, as well as
photographers snapping pictures of everyone, we (numbering several dozen
folks) were taken through the City "council" chamber with many tiers of
seats of beautifully carved wood figures and designs, and into the banquet
hall which was like something I would expect to see in a mini-Versailles
with the ornate, domed ceiling and tapestries and ancient statuary. We were
seated in a very scientific manner (boy, girl, boy, girl, and never next to
your own spouse) around a single huge oval table laid out with all manner
of decorations and plates and glasses and silverware all etched with the
city's official eblems. And we
were served a "very proper" state-banquet by an army of uniformed, gloved
waiters and head-waiters and major domos, with no single action, even the
laying down of a single plate, being performed by less than 2 people. There
were people for bringing the food and people for setting the food down.
When they served wine and other drinks, it reminded me of when I was an
altar boy helping with the delivery and preparation of the wine and
Communion hosts, needing 3 people for the operation. Then gifts were handed
out and brandy and cigars and.... well, I wish I could have taken my video
camera to help remember it, it was quite an experience (but I think that
would have been a bit tacky, eh?). It was also the first time I've eaten
dinner where I could look out a window behind me and see a uniformed and
armed guard in the darkness patrolling the garden making sure my digestion
was not disturbed.
And there was no Spanish Inquisition, but I never expect that, anyway.
Nobody does.

Hello,

Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the Walt Disney Digest #21, Feb
'70? Or if not, can someone please describe the cover & cover artist?

I have a pen & ink drawing that 'could' be of that issue and I'm trying to
find out. Thanks in advance,
eileen

Did Carl Barks, or anyone for that matter, ever do a
story where we see Scrooge in the future. Not
necessarly, dealing with time travel to the far flung
future. But a not so distant future, where he sees or
witnesses what happens to Donald, his nephews, the
money bin, and other matters of his affairs in
Duckburg.

Growing up watching the Disney cartoon "DuckTales," I
recall an episode where the newphews were then adults
and had taken over operations of Scrooge McDuck
Enterprises. I can't recall what became of Donald, but
unfortunately the boys had become hardened through the
years because of something Uncle Scrooge had told them
at the beginning of the show. Oh, well, it was solved
in 30 minutes.

Anyway, I realize the cartoon Uncle Scrooge was a
different universe from the Carl Barks version. I was
just wondering if any astute reader out there recalls
a specific issue where we see a "possible" future
version of Scrooge.

For that matter, awhile back there was some misunder-
standing over (I think) an opinion Don Rosa has about
Scrooge dying in 1967. Well, I'm pretty sure he's
means metaphorically because that's the year Carl
Barks retired from writing and drawing comics.

Still, I'm the kind of person that thinks every great
fictional story needs to have a beginning, middle, and
ending. I also think Don Rosa is a stickler for
continuity, at least in the time frame or universe
that
Carl Barks laid down. So, I'm going to ask him or any
of you a question that's probably been asked before.

Is there a story to be told (imaginary or as you truly
see it) where we see the final days of Scrooge McDuck?
If yes, then how do you see it panning out?

Me? Well since I compare Uncle Scrooge a lot with
Indina Jones, my ending might be a lot like "The Last
Crusade." At the end Scrooge and the gang would have
to ride off into the sunset. But, that isn't a final
story!

I'd probably use the technique David Lean used in
"Lawerence of Arabia," where Lawerence dies at the
beginning in a motorcycle accident (sort of off
camera); then his past is retold by accquaintances,
while the viewer is segued back into the actual past
at a critical time (in Lawerence's case - Arabia in
1916-1918); finally ending with Lawerence's death
through foreshadowing, with that great shot of him
driving away (I think) into the sunset, as a man on a
motorcycle zooms by. Hmm, actually, very similiar to
the method used in Citizen Kane.

Perhaps we'll never see the story. Or, perhaps we
will! Don Rosa's already handled the death of
Scrooge's parents with finite tact. Why not Scrooge
himself? At least in an imaginary story? Hmm, time
will tell...time will tell... No matter what, I say we
have to have that "sunset!" Another Rainbow - meets -
The Final Sunset. God bless.

F.A. Elliott.

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A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)

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Dear
Mr. Shane,

I really enjoyed all the work and information Don Rosa
and yourself put into your Life & Times of Scrooge
McDuck Webpage. I'm hoping you'll eventually include
the same information for the fill-in chapters after
his initial 12 part run. Thank you and God bless.

F.A. Elliott.

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A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)

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