In a message dated 8/23/00 3:00:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
dcml-admin at stp.ling.uu.se writes:
<< From: LACollectr at aol.com
>>>Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the Walt Disney Digest #21,
Feb
'70? Or if not, can someone please describe the cover & cover artist?
Those covers were always a montage of smaller pictures or scenes depicting
the various stories reprinted in the issue. That particular cover has the
left third showing an upright bear with two cubs with the title "True Life
Adventure on Bear Island", the right two-thirds show a scene from Barks'
"Ice Taxi to Beaver Island" by Strobl, and there are a few other heads in
with the other titles showing in the strip across the bottom part of the
cover. Any original art that was used on these covers would be on separate
bits of paper.
>>
Thank you, :D
Perhaps this was a mock-up then? Pictures don't jive with what I have.
It's on an 11"x14" piece of stiff paper with blue pencil marks. Any titles
sections are blocked out in blue pencil. Pics are in black ink(?)
Main pic in shows Mickey & Goofy in a rowboat with a volcano exploding in the
background. Vertically along the right side are 3 smaller pics with Pluto,
then a rabbit & dragon, then Donald Duck on a horse.
Across the bottom, in blue pencil is a circled '1' & "Glossy POS Sharp!" and
"1 Neg", then some measurements. Then in black ink, "COVER #1 W.D. Digest
#21 Feb '70" and a W (?) squigled in the right corner.
Does this ring any bells with anyone?
eileen
Author
Topic: 200008
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LACollectr
DCML digest, Vol 1 #239 - 11 msgs
Message 211 -
2000-08-23 at 18:19:29
Henri Knne
Death of Scrooge and "Mercedes"
Message 212 -
2000-08-24 at 00:51:17
At 12:00 23-8-00 +0200, you wrote:
>'68 Mercedes 220D "Rommel" http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/220d681.htm
>'71 Mercedes 250/8 "Iltis" http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~marmelmm/250/250.htm
>'61 Mercedes 220b "Blue Max"
>http://www.pages.drexel.edu/grad/marmelmm/Max/bluemax.html
Hey, what do these car photographs mean in a Disney comic list? I wasted my
time....
>It is only my opinion (a fan opinion) and, of course, yours is as
>respectable, but I absolutely disagree: I'd HATE a story which would tell us
>the death of Scrooge Mc Duck (or any other Disney character).
>Clement Le Hyaric-
I cannot agree. I rather think it's going to be interesting, and I'd be really
disappointed if Don decided not to tell a story that, in a sense, already
exists. After all, those heaps of text writers and artists together have
created a Duckburg so full of irresolvable contradictions - it wouldn't matter
a great deal if he's going to add just one more.
Greetings, Henri
>'68 Mercedes 220D "Rommel" http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/220d681.htm
>'71 Mercedes 250/8 "Iltis" http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~marmelmm/250/250.htm
>'61 Mercedes 220b "Blue Max"
>http://www.pages.drexel.edu/grad/marmelmm/Max/bluemax.html
Hey, what do these car photographs mean in a Disney comic list? I wasted my
time....
>It is only my opinion (a fan opinion) and, of course, yours is as
>respectable, but I absolutely disagree: I'd HATE a story which would tell us
>the death of Scrooge Mc Duck (or any other Disney character).
>Clement Le Hyaric-
I cannot agree. I rather think it's going to be interesting, and I'd be really
disappointed if Don decided not to tell a story that, in a sense, already
exists. After all, those heaps of text writers and artists together have
created a Duckburg so full of irresolvable contradictions - it wouldn't matter
a great deal if he's going to add just one more.
Greetings, Henri
M. Mitchell Marmel
"Mercedes"
Message 213 -
2000-08-24 at 02:41:48
At 11:51 PM +0200 8/23/00, Henri Knne wrote:
>Hey, what do these car photographs mean in a Disney comic list? I
>wasted my time....
Time spent looking at Mercedes-Benzes is never wasted. Besides, in
true Scrooge tradition, the '68 cost me $500, the '71 $400 and the
'61 $250 (US). Mind you, I had to spend some money to get 'em
running right (and Max is still under renovation) but I've gotten
some very good rides for a total expenditure of about $2000 per car.
:D
-MMM-
'68 Mercedes 220D "Rommel" http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/220d681.htm
'71 Mercedes 250/8 "Iltis" http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/250711.HTM
'61 Mercedes 220b "Blue Max"
http://www.pages.drexel.edu/grad/marmelmm/Max/bluemax.html
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>Hey, what do these car photographs mean in a Disney comic list? I
>wasted my time....
Time spent looking at Mercedes-Benzes is never wasted. Besides, in
true Scrooge tradition, the '68 cost me $500, the '71 $400 and the
'61 $250 (US). Mind you, I had to spend some money to get 'em
running right (and Max is still under renovation) but I've gotten
some very good rides for a total expenditure of about $2000 per car.
:D
-MMM-
'68 Mercedes 220D "Rommel" http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/220d681.htm
'71 Mercedes 250/8 "Iltis" http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/250711.HTM
'61 Mercedes 220b "Blue Max"
http://www.pages.drexel.edu/grad/marmelmm/Max/bluemax.html
WdHel: "Zur Hoelle, es laeuft!"
Club mbz.org Delaware Valley Section
Club mbz.org Virtual Section
ICQ # 58305217
F. A. Elliott
DCML digest, Vol 1 #239 - 11 msgs
Message 214 -
2000-08-24 at 08:50:33
From: Don Rosa
>Oh, and F.A., on behalf of all the other Digest
>readers, I ask you not to quote *entire* past
>messages in your comments. Just >pick a few lines to
>remind us of the context. Or perhaps you didn't
>realize your 'puter was doing that?
I'm glad someone told me this. This is a test. I hope
I'm doing it right now. Thanks and God bless.
F.A. Elliott.
=====
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A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)
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>Oh, and F.A., on behalf of all the other Digest
>readers, I ask you not to quote *entire* past
>messages in your comments. Just >pick a few lines to
>remind us of the context. Or perhaps you didn't
>realize your 'puter was doing that?
I'm glad someone told me this. This is a test. I hope
I'm doing it right now. Thanks and God bless.
F.A. Elliott.
=====
The 'one' who has a finger on 'it'... scratches against the mahogany lining of a coffin crying, "I am Jonah! I am Jonah! Spit me back out so I may see and feel the light of day again." And, the levithan does not heed for it knows every great epic must come to an 'end.'
A tasty morsel known as... "understanding." (F.A. Elliott)
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Digest #240
Message 215 -
2000-08-24 at 13:51:30
From: LACollectr at aol.com
<< From: LACollectr at aol.com
>>>Main pic in shows Mickey & Goofy in a rowboat with a volcano exploding
in the
background...Then in black ink, "COVER #1 W.D. Digest
#21 Feb '70" and a W (?) squigled in the right corner.
Does this ring any bells with anyone?
Aha. Sorry, I was checking by date, not number. That is, indeed, from WALT
DISNEY DIGEST #21, only it was dated *April*, 1970, not February.
<< From: LACollectr at aol.com
>>>Main pic in shows Mickey & Goofy in a rowboat with a volcano exploding
in the
background...Then in black ink, "COVER #1 W.D. Digest
#21 Feb '70" and a W (?) squigled in the right corner.
Does this ring any bells with anyone?
Aha. Sorry, I was checking by date, not number. That is, indeed, from WALT
DISNEY DIGEST #21, only it was dated *April*, 1970, not February.
Eta Beta
WDC Digest #20-#21
Message 216 -
2000-08-24 at 14:18:24
EILEEN
According to some (rather bad) scans I have, the cover you describe
is indeed that of WDCD #21, the main feature being Mickey and Goofy's
"The Secret of Earthquake Island", reprinted from MM #65.
The cover described by Don Rosa should be that of the previous
WDCD #20.
Cheers
Eta Beta
According to some (rather bad) scans I have, the cover you describe
is indeed that of WDCD #21, the main feature being Mickey and Goofy's
"The Secret of Earthquake Island", reprinted from MM #65.
The cover described by Don Rosa should be that of the previous
WDCD #20.
Cheers
Eta Beta
Jan Follak
Paperino... Anno 2001
Message 217 -
2000-08-24 at 17:48:56
Halvor, Soren:
>> This is an italian story written by Attilio Mazzanti and drawn by
>> Luciano Gatto (one of my favourites) in 1961. It's called 'Paperino... Anno
>> 2001' (I TL 309-A)
>Funny! Exactly the same story came to my mind, but I think I have
>mentioned it before on this list, on another occation.
The same thing happened to me. This story is among the first Disney stories
I read and I remember that I thought that it was very strange and felt
quite like a nightmare. Probably I couldn't cope with the time-paradoxes
(two Donald's of different ages at the same time), the strange shift in
Donald's character (he becomes a second Scrooge), the death of Scrooge and
Donald asking the Beagleboys for help. I had just grown accustomed to the
Disney universe, and in this story everything is different. Now that I have
grown up, I agree that this is a very good story, and exactly because of
the mixed feelings it leaves you with. I also enjoyed seeing the original
Italian beginning of the story for the first time, Soren!
There is an interesting parallel to this story in another Italian one from
the same time: "L'antipaperone" (TL 295-B/ TL 296-B), written by Roberto
Catalano and drawn by Luciano Gatto (as well). Gyro invents a machine that
duplicates people, but makes the good ones bad and vice versa. Scrooge's
alter ego now turns out bad and teams up with the Beagle-Boys against the
real Scrooge to get hold of his money. This time there are two *Scrooges*
battling each other, and again the Beagleboys are involved on one side.
In the German version (which is the same as the Italian "I
Classici"-version) the two parts are turned into one, and again there are
some panels drawn by Perego, this time to make the two parts fit together.
>> This is an italian story written by Attilio Mazzanti and drawn by
>> Luciano Gatto (one of my favourites) in 1961. It's called 'Paperino... Anno
>> 2001' (I TL 309-A)
>Funny! Exactly the same story came to my mind, but I think I have
>mentioned it before on this list, on another occation.
The same thing happened to me. This story is among the first Disney stories
I read and I remember that I thought that it was very strange and felt
quite like a nightmare. Probably I couldn't cope with the time-paradoxes
(two Donald's of different ages at the same time), the strange shift in
Donald's character (he becomes a second Scrooge), the death of Scrooge and
Donald asking the Beagleboys for help. I had just grown accustomed to the
Disney universe, and in this story everything is different. Now that I have
grown up, I agree that this is a very good story, and exactly because of
the mixed feelings it leaves you with. I also enjoyed seeing the original
Italian beginning of the story for the first time, Soren!
There is an interesting parallel to this story in another Italian one from
the same time: "L'antipaperone" (TL 295-B/ TL 296-B), written by Roberto
Catalano and drawn by Luciano Gatto (as well). Gyro invents a machine that
duplicates people, but makes the good ones bad and vice versa. Scrooge's
alter ego now turns out bad and teams up with the Beagle-Boys against the
real Scrooge to get hold of his money. This time there are two *Scrooges*
battling each other, and again the Beagleboys are involved on one side.
In the German version (which is the same as the Italian "I
Classici"-version) the two parts are turned into one, and again there are
some panels drawn by Perego, this time to make the two parts fit together.
Søren Krarup Olesen
Paperino... Anno 2001
Message 218 -
2000-08-24 at 18:29:03
JAN:
> [...] I also enjoyed seeing the original
> Italian beginning of the story for the first time, Soren!
Great, and since you're from Germany, I'm sure you'll like the
following as well. In Germany in Lustiges Taschenbuch no. 7 in the
story I TL 385-A ("Archimede e il signor Scherzo" by Chendi/Bottaro), a
variation over the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde theme--again a split
personality is the topic--you'll find:
http://raptus.dk/tmp/scherzo2.jpg
however in Denmark (and probably elsewhere in Scandinavia) this page was
*not* redrawn by Perego, and here is what really happens to the poor
Donald:
http://raptus.dk/tmp/scherzo1.gif
Litterally shocking, isn't it? :-)
There are many more of such examples. I remember a Chierchini story,
where Donald and the kids throw rotten eggs into the money bin in
order to "dope" the Beagle Boys. Later I was told that this sequence was
completely redrawn. In fact the basket with rotten eggs was originally
a box with teargas.
I wonder if any of those redrawn panels were ever used in Italy, I
mean, Giuseppe Perego *is* Italian after all...
Søren
P.S. And I *love* "L'antipaperone". Little Helper is *so* cute. Note how
he lightens up when he touches the electric fence (and much much more).
> [...] I also enjoyed seeing the original
> Italian beginning of the story for the first time, Soren!
Great, and since you're from Germany, I'm sure you'll like the
following as well. In Germany in Lustiges Taschenbuch no. 7 in the
story I TL 385-A ("Archimede e il signor Scherzo" by Chendi/Bottaro), a
variation over the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde theme--again a split
personality is the topic--you'll find:
http://raptus.dk/tmp/scherzo2.jpg
however in Denmark (and probably elsewhere in Scandinavia) this page was
*not* redrawn by Perego, and here is what really happens to the poor
Donald:
http://raptus.dk/tmp/scherzo1.gif
Litterally shocking, isn't it? :-)
There are many more of such examples. I remember a Chierchini story,
where Donald and the kids throw rotten eggs into the money bin in
order to "dope" the Beagle Boys. Later I was told that this sequence was
completely redrawn. In fact the basket with rotten eggs was originally
a box with teargas.
I wonder if any of those redrawn panels were ever used in Italy, I
mean, Giuseppe Perego *is* Italian after all...
Søren
P.S. And I *love* "L'antipaperone". Little Helper is *so* cute. Note how
he lightens up when he touches the electric fence (and much much more).
Becca Ridout
EC
Message 219 -
2000-08-24 at 20:11:01
>>(Speaking of EC comics, are they still being reprinted? I stopped
>> subscribing a long time ago, and at that time the reprints weren't
>> doing very well, as I remember readers were being asked to buy multiple
>> copies(!) to help out.)
>Well aparently in the USA, they outsell Disney Comics! ; )
> (but then all comics do! - there are still no USA Disney Comics)
> In the current Previews, the EC (Gemstone) titles for October will be
Crime
>Patrol and War Against Crime. I would suggest that a newcomer to EC
start
>with what I consider their best comics: Shock Suspenstories and Crime
>Suspenstories. Unless you really enjoyed the TV show, I'd skip the horror
>comics till later.
>Steven Rowe
Hmmm...not sure which ones are EC (my extent of those comics consists of the
stack of my mom's old comic books which I read throughly many many times
without taking much notice of company labels), but I always esp. loved the
ones such as "Strange Adventures", "Weird Science", and "House of Mystery",
to just name a few...
While I agree with Rodney on many of them being boring (I have no interest
in any of the war stories, or horror ones, and even the crime ones don't
esp. appeal to me)...there are a pretty wide range of catagories of comics
they published, and I'd expect a lot of people could find one or two titles
which they'd like.
It's really hard to compare them to the type of comics that this list is
meant for because they are a completely different style.
I don't find them half as 'entertaining' and disney comics, but they are
pretty interesting. I love science fiction literature so I find them pretty
satisfying when i'm in the mood to read a ray bradbury novel or something
along those lines....(even more so now that i've become more or less
completely bored with what's available on tv).
ok...i guess i've gotten sidetracked enough (I needed an excuse to
contribute to the list...I've felt completely out of the loop lately since
all the lucky people outside of the US are talking about all the latest
stories that are out, and it's been over 2 years since I've read a new
story...)
back to my realm of silence......
rebecca ridout
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>> subscribing a long time ago, and at that time the reprints weren't
>> doing very well, as I remember readers were being asked to buy multiple
>> copies(!) to help out.)
>Well aparently in the USA, they outsell Disney Comics! ; )
> (but then all comics do! - there are still no USA Disney Comics)
> In the current Previews, the EC (Gemstone) titles for October will be
Crime
>Patrol and War Against Crime. I would suggest that a newcomer to EC
start
>with what I consider their best comics: Shock Suspenstories and Crime
>Suspenstories. Unless you really enjoyed the TV show, I'd skip the horror
>comics till later.
>Steven Rowe
Hmmm...not sure which ones are EC (my extent of those comics consists of the
stack of my mom's old comic books which I read throughly many many times
without taking much notice of company labels), but I always esp. loved the
ones such as "Strange Adventures", "Weird Science", and "House of Mystery",
to just name a few...
While I agree with Rodney on many of them being boring (I have no interest
in any of the war stories, or horror ones, and even the crime ones don't
esp. appeal to me)...there are a pretty wide range of catagories of comics
they published, and I'd expect a lot of people could find one or two titles
which they'd like.
It's really hard to compare them to the type of comics that this list is
meant for because they are a completely different style.
I don't find them half as 'entertaining' and disney comics, but they are
pretty interesting. I love science fiction literature so I find them pretty
satisfying when i'm in the mood to read a ray bradbury novel or something
along those lines....(even more so now that i've become more or less
completely bored with what's available on tv).
ok...i guess i've gotten sidetracked enough (I needed an excuse to
contribute to the list...I've felt completely out of the loop lately since
all the lucky people outside of the US are talking about all the latest
stories that are out, and it's been over 2 years since I've read a new
story...)
back to my realm of silence......
rebecca ridout
"I was down for a while...but I'm ok now"
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Becca Ridout
Closure
Message 220 -
2000-08-24 at 21:25:34
I find the whole idea of needing "Closure" for the comic book universe to be
complete rather disturbing... I agree much more with Clement's opinon of the
situation, and I think he stated the situation of Barks' and Rosa's
universes perfectly...
Man, I almost cried when I read the issues of 'Life and Times...' in which
Scrooge's parents died. I really wouldn't be able to handle something
happening to a regular disney character.
I really hated even seeing a 'not-too-distant-future' version. When the show
"Quack Pack" came on, and tried to present a teenie-bopper version of Huey,
Dewey and Louie, I was SO mad!!! It was TERRIBLE. It really frustrated me,
because the audience of Disney comics is unfortunately small (well, in the
US anyway) so the vast majority of people take what's on tv as the "real
HD&L", completely missing all the wonderful depth to their characters...
sigh... i give up...
>At least we got to see what Superman's death may
>have been like. At the end of Funeral For a Friend Pa
>Kent drops dead from a heart attack, due to all the
>stress of losing Clark, while Martha is wailing,"Why?"
>Exactly, "Why?" I think it's just a wonderful moment,
>and, heh, it ends with a sunset.
Ouch. I thought that the whole "Death of Superman" was a horrible idea. It
wasn't even original. There were at least 8 or so "death of superman" issues
back during the 60's and 70's...on top of that, it wasn't even correct.
Superman's parents died when he was just a teenager. Ma and Pa Kent
contracted some weird disease from outer space and died in an issue of
"Superboy" (back when Curt Swan was in charge and superboy meant the real
childhood stories of superman, and not some clone or android or
whatever-the-heck DC has done with him now...). I'm pretty sure that that
was a real story, and not one of the "imaginary novels" they occasionally
did, because it remains consistant with all of my silver age superman comic
books. I don't have a single issue of Superman in which ma and pa kent
appear with Superman as an adult...
Anyway, I'm sure the vast majority of people on this list don't care at all
about DC comics...so I guess I'll stop raving now...
rebecca
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complete rather disturbing... I agree much more with Clement's opinon of the
situation, and I think he stated the situation of Barks' and Rosa's
universes perfectly...
Man, I almost cried when I read the issues of 'Life and Times...' in which
Scrooge's parents died. I really wouldn't be able to handle something
happening to a regular disney character.
I really hated even seeing a 'not-too-distant-future' version. When the show
"Quack Pack" came on, and tried to present a teenie-bopper version of Huey,
Dewey and Louie, I was SO mad!!! It was TERRIBLE. It really frustrated me,
because the audience of Disney comics is unfortunately small (well, in the
US anyway) so the vast majority of people take what's on tv as the "real
HD&L", completely missing all the wonderful depth to their characters...
sigh... i give up...
>At least we got to see what Superman's death may
>have been like. At the end of Funeral For a Friend Pa
>Kent drops dead from a heart attack, due to all the
>stress of losing Clark, while Martha is wailing,"Why?"
>Exactly, "Why?" I think it's just a wonderful moment,
>and, heh, it ends with a sunset.
Ouch. I thought that the whole "Death of Superman" was a horrible idea. It
wasn't even original. There were at least 8 or so "death of superman" issues
back during the 60's and 70's...on top of that, it wasn't even correct.
Superman's parents died when he was just a teenager. Ma and Pa Kent
contracted some weird disease from outer space and died in an issue of
"Superboy" (back when Curt Swan was in charge and superboy meant the real
childhood stories of superman, and not some clone or android or
whatever-the-heck DC has done with him now...). I'm pretty sure that that
was a real story, and not one of the "imaginary novels" they occasionally
did, because it remains consistant with all of my silver age superman comic
books. I don't have a single issue of Superman in which ma and pa kent
appear with Superman as an adult...
Anyway, I'm sure the vast majority of people on this list don't care at all
about DC comics...so I guess I'll stop raving now...
rebecca
"I was down for a while...but I'm ok now"
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Francesco Spreafico
Paperino... Anno 2001
Message 221 -
2000-08-24 at 22:18:25
From: "S?ren Krarup Olesen" <sko at acoustics.dk>
> P.S. And I *love* "L'antipaperone". Little Helper is *so* cute. Note how
> he lightens up when he touches the electric fence (and much much more).
I have "Mister Scherzo" on an old reprint, but there's no Perego there, just
the real "pluggin in"!
--
Sprea
> P.S. And I *love* "L'antipaperone". Little Helper is *so* cute. Note how
> he lightens up when he touches the electric fence (and much much more).
I have "Mister Scherzo" on an old reprint, but there's no Perego there, just
the real "pluggin in"!
--
Sprea
Henri Knne
Panels of futuristic story
Message 222 -
2000-08-24 at 22:21:28
At 12:00 24-8-00 +0200, Krarup Olesen wrote:
>Yes, there is a page missing in the Egmont/Gutenberghus reprint. I once
>asked Marco (or was it Eta Beta?) to do a scan of the two first pages,
>and I managed to find these. Take a look at
>http://raptus.dk/tmp/2001_1.jpg
>http://raptus.dk/tmp/2001_2.jpg
>Perhaps the editors found the splash panel to be a bit too futuristic,
>taking the story into account--it's not really a science-fiction story,
>well at least in the soft or parodic end of the scale.
No, it's not that. In those days, Egmont had the habit of telling short
parts of a story between the thosen stories, linking them together in
the book like a string of beads. The first panels simply didn't fit in the
frame-story.
Greetings, Henri
>Yes, there is a page missing in the Egmont/Gutenberghus reprint. I once
>asked Marco (or was it Eta Beta?) to do a scan of the two first pages,
>and I managed to find these. Take a look at
>http://raptus.dk/tmp/2001_1.jpg
>http://raptus.dk/tmp/2001_2.jpg
>Perhaps the editors found the splash panel to be a bit too futuristic,
>taking the story into account--it's not really a science-fiction story,
>well at least in the soft or parodic end of the scale.
No, it's not that. In those days, Egmont had the habit of telling short
parts of a story between the thosen stories, linking them together in
the book like a string of beads. The first panels simply didn't fit in the
frame-story.
Greetings, Henri
Fernando Ventura
Rebecca: Quack Pack!
Message 223 -
2000-08-25 at 00:46:11
Rebecca wrotte:
"I really hated even seeing a 'not-too-distant-future' version. When the
show
"Quack Pack" came on, and tried to present a teenie-bopper version of Huey,
Dewey and Louie, I was SO mad!!! It was TERRIBLE. It really frustrated me,
because the audience of Disney comics is unfortunately small (well, in the
US anyway) so the vast majority of people take what's on tv as the "real
HD&L", completely missing all the wonderful depth to their characters...
sigh... i give up..."
I think this show is "bad" to us, Disney Comics fans...but I think it
works with caracther personality. I think it is very fun, princippaly the
short that they became super-hero and after DESTROY the UNIVERSE,just to not
clean the room. I see Quack Pack as another universe...more or less as
Paperinik New Adventures...
But to mee, off course, the "real HD & L always will be the comics ones.
And off course, I have any idea because they didn't use Scrooge, Gyro, or
any other comic character on it. I'm not sure, but I think they didn't live
on Duckburg. WHY Disney do this, I don't know...I see a picture off Scrooge
into the new series Mickey Mouse Works, and I hate to see him with that
design, so similar with Ludwig...I speaking abot design, not about this new
series, that didn't arrive yet on Brazil. I just know that this series use,
or will use Disney Comic Characthers, as Phanton Bloot or Chief O'Hara.
Isn't it good?
Fernando!
"I really hated even seeing a 'not-too-distant-future' version. When the
show
"Quack Pack" came on, and tried to present a teenie-bopper version of Huey,
Dewey and Louie, I was SO mad!!! It was TERRIBLE. It really frustrated me,
because the audience of Disney comics is unfortunately small (well, in the
US anyway) so the vast majority of people take what's on tv as the "real
HD&L", completely missing all the wonderful depth to their characters...
sigh... i give up..."
I think this show is "bad" to us, Disney Comics fans...but I think it
works with caracther personality. I think it is very fun, princippaly the
short that they became super-hero and after DESTROY the UNIVERSE,just to not
clean the room. I see Quack Pack as another universe...more or less as
Paperinik New Adventures...
But to mee, off course, the "real HD & L always will be the comics ones.
And off course, I have any idea because they didn't use Scrooge, Gyro, or
any other comic character on it. I'm not sure, but I think they didn't live
on Duckburg. WHY Disney do this, I don't know...I see a picture off Scrooge
into the new series Mickey Mouse Works, and I hate to see him with that
design, so similar with Ludwig...I speaking abot design, not about this new
series, that didn't arrive yet on Brazil. I just know that this series use,
or will use Disney Comic Characthers, as Phanton Bloot or Chief O'Hara.
Isn't it good?
Fernando!
YMH
The Duck Universe Lives On
Message 224 -
2000-08-25 at 07:25:36
I'm pleased to report that it seems that Carl Bark's Duck universe isn't
quite as dead in the US as it appeared to have been. Ubi Soft will soon be
releasing a Platform game starring Donald Duck for the Nintendo 64 and the
Playstation 2 video game consoles. While this unto itself isn't all that
surprising, this incomplete list of supporting characters is: Huey, Dewey,
and Louie Duck, Daisy Duck, Gyro Gearloose, Gladstone Gander, the Beagle
Boys, Magica DeSpell, and Merlock the Sorceress (who appeared in the
DuckTales movie.) And there are others as well... I'm still hoping they
they'll announce the presence of Scrooge.
It's almost as if they wanted to make an Uncle Scrooge game but were worried
that their target audience wouldn't know who he is. Either that, or they
couldn't come up with any enemies for Donald to fight that he'd independently
fought before -- but the fact that they even *bothered* to look into the old
TV shows and comics instead of making up their own from scratch impresses me
very much -- I actually think that I may buy this game.
Of course, the gameplay will be simple stuff; typical relativly-mindless
Platform game fare, reminiscent of the Mario series. But the fact that these
forgotten-by-most characters will be appearing in a mainstream videogame has
*got* to be a step in the right direction.
As for myself... I hope to someday have the privilege of having the
opportunity to design a LucasArts-style Adventure game based on the Uncle
Scrooge comics, featuring mature, intelligent, and sophisticated character
development, dialogue, plot, and puzzles... That genre of game has all but
died out, these days, but I have hopes that it will eventually return.
Whether I'm someday will actually in a position to design computer games is
less certain, but I can still hope. :-)
In the meantime, though, games like Donald Duck are better than nothing...
For more information about the games, see the following URLs:
Playstation2 version:
http://ps2.ign.com/previews/15164.html?2132.237.3
(This preview actually mentions the Barks comics!)
Nintendo 64 version:
http://ign64.ign.com/previews/12183.html
(has gameplay videos)
A lurker for several months who's finally found a good reason to speak up,
Yossi Horowitz
quite as dead in the US as it appeared to have been. Ubi Soft will soon be
releasing a Platform game starring Donald Duck for the Nintendo 64 and the
Playstation 2 video game consoles. While this unto itself isn't all that
surprising, this incomplete list of supporting characters is: Huey, Dewey,
and Louie Duck, Daisy Duck, Gyro Gearloose, Gladstone Gander, the Beagle
Boys, Magica DeSpell, and Merlock the Sorceress (who appeared in the
DuckTales movie.) And there are others as well... I'm still hoping they
they'll announce the presence of Scrooge.
It's almost as if they wanted to make an Uncle Scrooge game but were worried
that their target audience wouldn't know who he is. Either that, or they
couldn't come up with any enemies for Donald to fight that he'd independently
fought before -- but the fact that they even *bothered* to look into the old
TV shows and comics instead of making up their own from scratch impresses me
very much -- I actually think that I may buy this game.
Of course, the gameplay will be simple stuff; typical relativly-mindless
Platform game fare, reminiscent of the Mario series. But the fact that these
forgotten-by-most characters will be appearing in a mainstream videogame has
*got* to be a step in the right direction.
As for myself... I hope to someday have the privilege of having the
opportunity to design a LucasArts-style Adventure game based on the Uncle
Scrooge comics, featuring mature, intelligent, and sophisticated character
development, dialogue, plot, and puzzles... That genre of game has all but
died out, these days, but I have hopes that it will eventually return.
Whether I'm someday will actually in a position to design computer games is
less certain, but I can still hope. :-)
In the meantime, though, games like Donald Duck are better than nothing...
For more information about the games, see the following URLs:
Playstation2 version:
http://ps2.ign.com/previews/15164.html?2132.237.3
(This preview actually mentions the Barks comics!)
Nintendo 64 version:
http://ign64.ign.com/previews/12183.html
(has gameplay videos)
A lurker for several months who's finally found a good reason to speak up,
Yossi Horowitz
Detlef Giesler
Carl died
Message 225 -
2000-08-25 at 13:04:46
Carl Barks died this morning.
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