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Hi all,

I just wanna thank Armando, Francesco, Fernando and Favio for your information
on Ellsworth and Bruto. :-)

Alex

I think I should clear something up here. I too think that rousing
discussion has a big place with this group, and I certainly find it more
interesting than endless lists of stories and codes, though I understand
how helpful those are to the ones who are working on special projects and
things. What I was complaining (for lack of a better word) about, was
when the discussions get so heated, that it seems like people are taking
offense to the things said. One of the points that I meant to bring out,
that I may not have done a very good job with, was that "everything is
open to reader interpretation", and there's no reason for us to get upset
just because someone doesn't agree with something that is said. I don't
think this should become a free-for-all where we just throw out our
opinions and argue when someone doesn't agree with us. That could get
out of hand very quickly, but discussion is good.

The main thing that I didn't like, was people basically saying "All of
the posts that (insert name here) sends are boring." That *is* a
personal attack and, as far as I'm concerned it wasn't called for. I
know some were curious as to what exactly set me off, so I guess this is
as good a time as any to tell all of you.

Sometimes I think much faster than I type, and I usually think for a
couple days about how I'm going to word something, but it doesn't always
come across right. I hope this has cleared some things up.

And for those of you who have threatened me with violence...........I
always make an attempt to treat the other list members with respect, even
if I don't agree with them, so please grant me the same courtesy. I
can't think of anything more uncalled for than threatening to beat me up
because I don't agree with someone's views.

Rodney Bowcock

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In the 10 pager in WDCS 164, Scrooge talks about a person named Miss
Pennywise who owns an old note of his, that in his words "could ruin me!"

I do know that by this point in time (1954) Barks had largely developed
the Scrooge character, so my question is: Is this the forgotten person
Scrooge borrowed money from? I wonder why he borrowed the money, and
where he ran into her in the past. Could this be something that might
turn up in a new Life and Times chapter? Or maybe it's already been
taken care of, and I missed it? Up until re-reading this story I thought
Soapy Slick was the only person Scrooge borrowed money from.

Rodney Bowcock

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Don Rosa (re: "Torch"):
> (My policy is to never answer questions from people using pseudonyms, but
> the writer's name was given at the end of the rest of his message.)

Ooops. That was unintentional and has been changed. ;-) I sometimes use the
handle of "Torch" or, rather "The Human Torch" (from Marvel's Fantastic Four)
when chatting with my other comicbook fans... but that's another story...
http://www.comicboards.com/mub/

As for your answer concerning the origin of the name "Pistoles" I found
that fascinating! I love these little, previously unknown facts, which
feel like lost treasure to me. I would like to mention this in the
HooZoo file for Panchito and give you the credit for rediscovering this
item since Disney never mentions it in any of the modern publications
which speak of Panchito or the film "The Three Caballeros." I also
found it humorous that the Mexican Disney publications had to correct
Disney's creation of a Mexican character! :-)

Fernando Ventura (re: Amadeu)
> Hum, Amadeu lived on Rio, with Jos?! In fact, one more of his neighbors
> ...in this time, there are just Nestor and Pedr?o as Jos?'s friends,
> and he is living in a slum, a poorer. I have never heard where he comes
> from, or where he is going after these stories. Maybe Arthur Faria Jr
> can ad more to it! I can do the scans, but I don't know how to make them
> avaiable! Maybe I can send you, Rich, and you can make avaiable in the
> list!

Graciously Paolo Fontanesi sent to me a scan which I am happy to make
available to the list. However, in my humble opinion, it looks very,
very much like the way Renato Canini would have drawn Ellsworth. I
suspect that Canini played fast and loose with the character of Ellsworth
and just borrowed him for Jose's cast for a while without explaining
anything. I'd like to hear other opinions since, even thought this
is apparently a story reprinted from Brazil into an Italian publication
and the name is only slightly altered to "Amedeo", I'm betting that
most would agree that he is still Ellsworth (Genius, Gancio, etc.).
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/SCANS/amedeo.gif

Thank you for the replies I've recieved so far! ;-)

Rich Bellacera
xephyr at jps.net

Hello!

The most interesting part of the Rosa-calendar was the first page. This
shows HDL bathing, fishing an playing ball, but still looking very bored.
They are daydreaming about being back to school, having a swell time there.
This is rather unusual, as the boys are for the most part portaited as not
liking school very much, and not wanting to go back after the holiday. See
for instance 'The Truant Nephews' (WDC 133) or 'Playin' Hookey' (WDC 72) or
'Houseboat Holiday' (WDC 142). The drawing also made me wonder how old HDL
really are. I have always considered them being about 10 years, but the
subjects they are studying in their daydream looked very advanced for that
age. Also, laying on the ground are several comics. Most of these have the
logo of the norwegian weekly, but there's another different-looking comic
featuring Scrooge that don't have this logo. I just can't figure out if the
logo on this comic is something meanigful or not. ???

Now on to a completely different topic. a Couple of weeks ago we saw a brand
new Disney-publication in Norway (Scandianvia?). This is a quality-paper
comic with title 'Back at Last', this time featuring Fethry. This comic will
feature Disney-characters that are not so very often seen in todays
weeklies. This first issue features Fethry-stories first printed in
1965-1975. The best stories are written by Dick Kenney and drawn by Al
Hubbard. The first story is 'The Health Nut' (S 64008). This is the first
story featuring Fethry, and also the first story with Tabby, Donald's cat.
This is a funny story where Fethry wants Donald to become healthier. The
next story is maybe the best one. This is 'Fall Guy' (S 65049) where Fethry
wants to ride in a barrel in the Niagara. If you want a complete info about
the content in this comic, the swedish version is allready indexed in
INDUCKS. The comic is highly recommended, even if some of the stories don't
have their original length, and some of the stories at the end of the comic
are not as good as the rest.
The next issue will feature Moby Duck. I just wonder how long this
publication will last. There aren't really that many nearly-forgotten
characters that the common reader will buy comics of, when the price is
nearly three times more than the weekly. I hope that I'm wrong though,
because I salute the effort of bringing some of these characters back.
---Halvor

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From: Eirik Jørgensen Sollie <eirik.sollie at c2i.net>
>>>>?What is Carl Barks own favourite story??

I think Barks would probably have different answers at different times for
different people as regards this question.
But when I was writing comic fandom's question & answer column, "The
Information Center", which I did at different times for the RBCC, the COMIC
READER, THE BUYER'S GUIDE, AMAZING HEROES, and maybe some other fanzines, I
got that very question from a reader. This woulda been about 1975. So, I
sent the question to Barks and his very definite reply (at that time) was
"Microducks from Outer Space".

From: "Rodney w bowcock jr." <rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com>
>>>In the 10 pager in WDCS 164, Scrooge talks about a person named Miss
Pennywise who owns an old note of his, that in his words "could ruin me!"
I do know that by this point in time (1954) Barks had largely developed
the Scrooge character, so my question is: Is this the forgotten person
Scrooge borrowed money from? I wonder why he borrowed the money, and
where he ran into her in the past. Could this be something that might
turn up in a new Life and Times chapter? Or maybe it's already been
taken care of, and I missed it?

I was well aware of this story, but I wrote the bit off as an instance
where Barks needed a fast way to establish a reason why $crooge would be
very concerned about what Donald did to this customer in this "gag" story.
So, I sorta "dismissed" it as I did with a very few other old Barksian
"facts" such as the Magic Hourglass, to which $crooge was supposed to owe
his entire fortune. These were elements that went so much against the rest
of the Barks-$crooge canon that I decided, for my purposes, they were to be
overlooked.

>>> Up until re-reading this story I thought
Soapy Slick was the only person Scrooge borrowed money from.

That's how I see it. After that, he would never need to borrow money, and
surely borrowing money and paying interest would be just about the LAST
thing $crooge would ever do. I bet growing up on $crooge comics is why I
have never used credit cards and have paid cash for everything in life
except my house.

From: "Sandven, Halvor" <halvor.sandven at dnb.no>
>>>I think the most interesting part og the Rosa-Calendar was the first
page,
showing HDL bathing, fishing and playing with ball, but looking very bored
doing this. Instead they daydream about being back to school, having a
swell
time there. This is rather unusual.

Yes, I agree. And you've answered a question of mine as to what sort of
caption publishers were putting on that illustration. My original caption
(which is why I incorporated that caption box into the art) was something
to the effect that this was a scene from the "bizarro world" or such... I
don't recall my exact phrase after over a year, but the gag (such as it is)
was supposed to be that this is the last thing that kids on summer vacation
would want to see, a school calendar. Perhaps the publishers thought that
philosophy of telling kids school was bad was not proper, even though my
real intention was simply some wry humor. So, when they used the
illustration in Finland, and now in the Egmont reprints, they remove my gag
line. And yeah, that makes the whole scene seem inexplicable to you and me
both!

>>>At the ground we see several comics laying around. Most of these have
the
logo of the norwegian weekly, but there's one other different-looking comic
featuring

??? You trailed off. I'm sure you were going to ask about the digest
(pocketbook) in the corner that says "ROOPE-SETA". I drew all those comics
into my art with FINNISH titles like AKKU ANKA (Donald Duck) and ROOPE-SETA
(Uncle Scrooge) since I never expected the art to be used outside Finland.
But don't ask me why Egmont decided to go to the trouble of changing some
of the covers but not all of the covers, and left that one as the original
Finnish issue.

>>>>a Couple of weeks ago we saw a brand
new Disney-publication in Norway (Scandianvia?). This is a quality-paper
comic with title 'Back at Last', this time featuring Fethry. This comic
will
feature Disney-characters that are not so very often seen in todays
weeklies. The next issue will feature Moby Duck. I just wonder how long
this
publication will last.

I was told about this comic when I was making a list of all the Duckburg
characters to put into the Egmont Christmas Calendar I did last week.
Fethry is in issue one, next will be Moby Duck, and in the final issue will
be Ludwig Von Drake. I was worried that my editor would tell me they wanted
me to include Fethry and Moby Duck in my calendar art, something I would
decline to do. But it turns out, at least so I'm told, that this 3-issue
series does not herald the return of these characters to the weeklies --
all three are still "officially dead" in the Duck Universe. But I LIKE
Ludwig Von Drake (I sneak him into the crowd scenes in my stories
sometimes, though I'm not allowed to use him as a character), so I was
still allowed to make him one of my Christmas vignettes.
(By the way, I *was* allowed to also include Jose Carioca and Panchito
Pistoles in my series!)

Anyway, okay, that will be my last message for a while, so if anyone asks
me a direct query I won't be able to answer it until next week.... unless
you come and ask it to me in person in the city of A Coru?a in Spain where
I will be at a comic convention starting tomorrow. Bye.

Don Rosa wrote:

> Well, jeepers, they don't put my stories in the next issue >they print after
> it arrives from FedEx.

Well jeez (sorry couldn't resist :), that wasn't what I meant. I just have some vague memory of someone complaining about how it'd take ages for this story to show up in Norway, so i though there'd maybe been some strange policy-decision regarding this particular story.

> and Destinies"). My "Three Caballeros Ride Again!" will be >in issue #40 of
> this year's Egmont weeklies, that's the first week of >October, I think.

Great, I'll be studying in England then (three long years!). Back to subscribing...

Rodney wrote:
Lots of stuff i agree with (regarding inflammatory discussions).
Oh, and if someone's being so childish they're sending threats like that, you should publish his/her name so that person can be banned from the list (at least that particular addy).

This is just like Napster, where there's a bunch of people posting really stupid and insulting messages that definitely don't further the cause of Napster.

Halvor Sandven:

>but there's another different-looking comic
> featuring Scrooge that don't have this logo. I just can't figure out if the
> logo on this comic is something meanigful or not. ???
>

Well I don't know about that one.. But I'M wondering about the cover with the fierce looking Donald!
I don't have my "Life & Times" series accessible right now, but isn't that cover based on that magazine by Scrooges... Steamboat Captain Uncle was it? Which in turn was based on Buffalo Bill magazine from 1907 or so? No?

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