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>>>From: Jakob Soederbaum
>>>Don:
In last week's Kalle Anka & C:o appeared something I'd least expected: a
"Don Rosa school scheme" (or shall it be translated callendar?). What's the
story behind this, Don? It doesn't seem like something you would
*spontaneously* decide on doing. ;-) Did you do the lay-out and questions
too? When did you do it, is it really new or is it somethingthat has been
lying around for a while at Egmont?

I "least expected" it myself! That's something I did a year ago for
Finland's non-Egmont publisher. They often ask me for special jobs, like
the covers to go along with the stories I do for Egmont of France, or for
texts and covers for their hardback Rosa books, or texts and cover for the
special Rosa-pin-up calendar they are doing right now. And once these texts
or art are done, they can be spotted and used by another company like
Egmont for free -- in fact, I didn't even know they were gonna do that
calendar either. Nor did I know about the special insert-comic reprinting
my old "Treasure Under Glass" story that appeared in Egmont issues about a
month ago. It had an accompanying biographical feature saying something in
foreign gibberish (something accurate I can only assume) about me along
with a drawing I once did of myself for a Californian comicon where I was a
guest. That self-portrait once appeared in an Egmont comic rendering it
"Disney property" as well, so that it now can turn up without my permission
or remuneration in any "Disney" licensed publication on earth. I didn't
know about the Egmont usage of my calendar art or old "Treasure..." story
until I saw my name on the cover of the issues that I received, which means
you knew about it before I did.
But if want to know about such things, I'll tell you that I just finished
24 vignette gags each using a different Duckburg character for a Christmas
Calendar that will appear this year in Egmont editions (at least in
Norway).

>>>From: john garvin
>>>Subject: gimme a break

I won't try to quote John's (I mean "john"'s) message in whole or part, but
I don't think I've read a message on this ML which I agreed with more or
made me smile as much in many a year. Thank you, J/john!

>>>From: Kriton Kyrimis <
(Me:)
> if I
> do get the correct uniform on my characters, there will probably only be
> three people on earth who will know it: me, Ruben, and whoever he calls
in
> Panama.
>>>>>I think that when this story gets published, we should all write the
publishers a letter, commending Don on his correct rendition of the
Panamanian soldiers' uniforms!

Please, don't ever do something like that! I think it would spoil some of
my fun of being so esoteric if more people knew about all these extra
efforts I take for my own amusement.

> Maybe you'll also make a list of the INaccurate details?
>>>I thought that Don included such a list in his last posting. ;-)

I was puzzled a bit by that line, myself, but I assumed it was just
supposed to sound funny. I am always quite open with my admissions of when
I make drastic fubars in my stories, always including mention of them when
I write accompanying annotated texts. After all, if I let readers know
about the blunders I make, I feel like I have thereby corrected and excused
those goofs, so I'm always more than anxious to do so!

Hey Everyone!
Tarjei from Norway here... I posted occasionally to this list from '97-'99 and now I'm back after a year of study-related absence :)

Jakob Soederbaum said:
> In last week's Kalle Anka & C:o appeared something I'd >least expected: a "Don Rosa school scheme" (or shall it be >translated callendar?). It's four pages of new Rosa-art (the

Like usual the Norwegian Donald Duck & Co had the same school calendar. But I was disappointed that it was printed on the normal comic-paper, and not on thin cardboard! This would have made the calendar a better item to save or hang on the wall. *sigh*
Liked the calendar though!

John Garvin:

>Don't ask us [Americans -Ed.] to watch what we say. If >anyone is offended by what I say, that is your problem, not >mine. Offence is taken by the listener, not given by the >speaker, all
> questions of intent aside.

This sounds like an excuse for people to spout exactly what they feel like spouting with complete diregard for possible consequences, like misunderstandings, unecessary offence erupting into tiring, unecessary and unpleasant arguments etc.
These kind of discussions would be better suited for something like IMDB's "Soapbox" forum for rants that other forums don't want.

Not that I'm saying I completely disagree with you. I'm also bored by a lot of the goings on here (though no doubt interesting for others), and discussions like the one between Don and Daniel are of course interesting. But that doesn't give anyone the right to bog down this list with comments made by "feisty Americans" (or anyone else) who insists on not worrying about who they might offend.
I'd like to comment that I haven't seen anything to this effect during the particular discussion, and let's keep it that way! :)

>And PLEASE do not start saying
> IMO or IMHO, please. I KNOW it is your opinion. Anything >you say or write is your opinion. EVEN if you think you are >writing pure fact, more often that not, it is still just >your opinion. You don't need to remind me of that at the >beginning of every paragraph.

Of course, not everyone knows its whoever's opinion. A lot of people will subconciously take what they read as fact (otherwise, why can the box-office fate of movies often be decided by the "opinions" of movie-reviewers? Because the readers consider it more fact than opinion.
IMO ;p

> From: "L.B. Coutu" <gurgi31 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: American Disney Comics

I'd also like an update, Gladstone/Gary?

John Garvin (again!) said:

> I checked out the "rules" for the list and could not find >information on the
> acceptability of commercial transactions on this list, >though from the
> apologetic nature of the last two I've seen, I'm guessing >it's not approved
> of.

I seem to remember someone on this list once set up a place for people to trade/sell disney comics?
Whatever happened to that?

Of course, Ebay is a pretty good place for comics too...

Kriton wrote:

> I think that when this story gets published, we should all write the
> publishers a letter, commending Don on his correct rendition of the
> Panamanian soldiers' uniforms!

lol :)
Good idea
This reminds me of something I'm wondering about. Why hasn't Norway printed that new Don Rosa story with The Three Caballeros (or something)?

Alright, that enough of my inconsiderate ranting and raving!

/Tarjei
tarj123 at online.no

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From: john garvin
>>>>for Mr. Rosa: What kind of impact, for better or ill, has your direct
pipeline to fandom had on your ability to create? What do you think would
have happened had Barks been working in the same kind of environment, and
not in a vaccume?

Oops... I missed responding to this --
It's difficult for me to say what impact my direct pipeline "to" fandom has
had on my work since, as I frequently tell people in interviews and such, I
CAME into this as PART of that fandom. I don't have a pipeline "to" it, I
*am* it. I don't know what it's like to do comics from outside of that
collective group. If you were to ask me what my comics would be like if I
were not a comics fan first, and a "professional" second... I'm sure I
would be treating these stories as simple gags for youngsters, rather than
overly-serious comedy-dramas for adult fans like myself. But more than
that, I don't guess I'd be doing it at all because the corporations that
control the system make the job too frustrating if I didn't enjoy the
subject so much. I'd still be running that old family construction company.
But I think you're asking about how the feedback I get from other fans
affects my work? I just sat and tried to think of an answer for that, but I
can't. Perhaps it's how readers seem to most enjoy the same stories I most
enjoy doing, it only hardens my resolve to keep doing them... perhaps it
helps me decide to spend the extra time that I want to spend on research
even though it's making the job take longer. That lowers my income but
raises my enjoyment, making it easier to ignore those frustrations.
How would Barks' work have been different if he had known there were people
reading and loving his stories above all others, all over the world? I
can't possibly guess. Perhaps it is a very good thing that he didn't
know -- it is said that what he really wanted was a job doing an adventure
newspaper strip like "Terry and the Pirates" or such (where the only real $
was in comics in those days)... maybe if he'd known how beloved his work
was, he would have stopped doing the Disney stuff and made that decision to
the newspapers, using his popularity to convince a feature syndicate to
give him a start on a strip of his own. Or... I've often thought that Barks
had a lot in common with Theodore Geisel (Dr. Seuss) in art style,
imagination and background in magazine illustration of the 30's. Perhaps if
he had seen how popular his stories were, or if Western Publishing had
realized or thought about it more, Barks would have gone into writing and
illustrating children's books that would belong to him rather than a
corporation, making lots more $ off his genius for both him and the
publisher than using his talents on comics where the profits were shared
too heavilly with a corporation that had nothing to do with Barks' creation
of the stories. And meanwhile the Dell Disney comics would still have kept
selling without Barks, even though perhaps not as well, so Dell/Western
would have still come out ahead with the UNshared profits off the
Barks?Western wholly-owned storybooks.
But if he had stayed on the Duck comics while being in touch with his vast
worldwide readership -- I can't guess how the stories would have been
different. Perhaps, as with mine, not any different at all... only moreso.

Time to post some comments again.

A while ago, some friend asked me a Barks-related question. Even though I am
not an expert on Barks, I like to think that I have some general knowledge.
Consequently, this intricate question really lowered my self-esteem. The
question was: ?What is Carl Barks own favourite story??

October 14, 1969 Barks wrote a letter to Klas H. Reimers, a fan from Sweden.
In this letter, in which he stated his opinion about his ten-pagers, he
wrote: ?I have no favourite ten-pager anymore. The issue of March
1951(WDC&S125 - Pennies from Heaven) I have always considered technically
well done. It had a rhythm that could have almost been set to music.?

Enough about the ten-pagers, however, I think his real favourite story has
to be one of the longer, and more complex, tales. And I think he once said
that he particularly liked ?Lost in the Andes?? On another occasion,
however, he said that he could not decide which story he liked the most.

My question to you list members is: Have Barks ever, in a more ?officially?
way, said which Duck story he likes the most? It is not that important, but
I would like to know.

Appreciate any response!

Eirik J?rgensen Sollie

HARRY:

On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, you wrote:
> > From: Antonio Svevi [mailto:robert662 at caramail.com]
>
> > PS: I never read the mail from which I post, so please don't
> > send me any mail.
>
> Then who sent me that mail (from the above address) with the generous offer
> to do certain sexual practices at my home?

You and others should be aware, that from some (lets call them "open")
e-mail addresses it is possible to send mails in other peoples names.

The only way to check if someone did that is to read the full header of
the e-mail in question. You'll probably find, that the "generous" mail
you received has another recipient server than the ones sent by Mr.
Svevi.

Most e-mail addresses however has a proxy with firewall to protect such
things, but others just give green light, like addresses provided by
NameZero just to name one. It's a pity, but that's how it works :-/

Søren

John L:

> why William Van Horn will
> probably never have internet access. [..]
> In fact, he often finds it amusing when I'm
> having computer
> problems and I end up wasting a great deal of time...on a
> device that was invented to save people time.

I don't think computers were invented to save people time. That didn't work
for me, anyway: I spend 8 to 10 hours a day behind a computer, and I
wouldn't earn my money without them. Most of all, using a computer is *fun*.
My recent trip to the USA just shows that: I met a lot of people whom I
would never have heard of if the internet did not exist.

Of course I don't need to convince you of that. But maybe mr. Van Horn can
reconsider?... 8-)

--Harry.
(Who visited the most famous place in Eugene, Oregon: The Place Where Van
Horn Had Lunch. 8-)