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Manningjet
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Kriton Kyrimis
DON:

> Gort, Klattu birada nikto. Squa tront!

Spa fon, Don!

> Really? I had assumed that there was no logical reason why days-of-the-week
> were skipped.

After some more thorough investigation (i.e., skimming through the
first web page suggested by Google), it would seem that I was wrong,
after all. The last day of the Julian Calendar, Thursday, October 4,
1582, was followed by Friday, October 15. I guess that the theological
argument must have been that October 15 should be a Monday.

Speaking of lost days, due to calndar switches, there is a book by Abner
Shimony, titled "Tibaldo and the Hole in the Calendar", about how an
11-year-old boy, growing up in 16th-century Italy, loses his birthday
when the Gregorian calendar replaces the Julian calendar in 1582, and
how he fights to prevent this loss. [Summary extracted from an Amazon
review--I haven't read the book.]

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Don Rosa
> I just read "A little something special" from Adventurous Uncle Scrooge
> McDuck #2 (29 pages) and I have one question:
> Page 20 : Blackheart beagle says to $crooge: "A last glass of
sarsaparilla
> from Coot's soda fountain! You know from old times!"
> As we know $crooge prefer nutmeg tea but smurfs ("Schtroumpf" comics by
the
> belgian Peyo) eat sarsaparilla. That's a reference to smurf.

Sorry to disappoint you, but no, it's not. I have never read a Smurf comic
(or seen a cartoon)... I have no idea what they drink or do. But
sarsaparilla is simply what people drank at American soda-fountains and
saloons 100+ years ago.
And did you think that the *only* fluid that $crooge will drink is nutmeg
tea? Of course not. I'm sure he drinks *many* things, especially after his
decades of world travel. In "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" I have him
drinking fine brandy with Teddy Roosevelt. And that's good to mention just
on the remote (?!) chance that story is ever printed in America -- that
brandy will surely turn into sarsaparilla in any edition published here.

> That might also be a reference to Lucky Luke,
> At least in some Finnish translations of LL, sarsaparilla is served in
> saloons instead of whiskey in those albums where alcohol is not
"allowed".

Again, no, it is not a reference to "Lucky Luke". I'm pleased people enjoy
trying to find hidden references in my stories, but the simple fact in this
instance is that sarsaparilla is one of the things that people drank in
the days before Coca-Cola and Pepsi.

> I don't know who's the world's largest publisher, but according to
Disney's
> annual report, which arrived today, the company considers publishing as
> "perhaps our longest-running international success story, having begun in
the
> early 1930s. . . . They state that "we are now the world's largest
publisher
> of children's books and magazines, putting out publications that are read
by
> 100 million people in 55 languages in 74 countries." Given the
squishiness of
> corporate statements, this could mean several different things, but there
it
> is.

This is an odious, flat-out lie that I have seen them spout before in such
reports. They are shamelessly taking full credit for 70 years of efforts by
dozens and dozens of *independent* publishers who commission and publish
the work of *freelance* writers and artists, all done without an *iota* of
Disney assistance! They know that the corporate shareholders assume, like
the rest of the public, that anything with the name "Disney" on it is and
always has always been manufactured, created and/or published by Disney, so
they fuel the misconception with such a despicable untruth.
Brrrrrrrrrrrr......
Paulo Barrez
>From: Don Rosa <donrosa at iglou.com>
> > I just read "A little something special" from
Adventurous Uncle Scrooge
> > McDuck #2 (29 pages) and I have one question:

Yeah, I also read that story on Yahoo.

> > Page 20 : Blackheart beagle says to $crooge: "A
last glass of
> sarsaparilla
> > from Coot's soda fountain! You know from old
times!"
> > As we know $crooge prefer nutmeg tea but smurfs
("Schtroumpf" comics by
> the
> > belgian Peyo) eat sarsaparilla. That's a reference
to smurf.
>
> Sorry to disappoint you, but no, it's not. I have
never read a Smurf comic
> (or seen a cartoon)... I have no idea what they
drink or do. But
> sarsaparilla is simply what people drank at American
soda-fountains and
> saloons 100+ years ago.

I think most of those who know Peyo's Sumrfs (and
there are quite a lot of them here in Europe) will
take it for a reference to the Smurfs. "Sarsaparilla"
is one of the best known element of the Smurfs'
universe. This is almost a synonym of the series.
That's an unintentional reference, I would say.

> This is an odious, flat-out lie that I have seen
them spout before in such
> reports. They are shamelessly taking full credit for
70 years of efforts by
> dozens and dozens of *independent* publishers who
commission and publish
> the work of *freelance* writers and artists, all
done without an *iota* of
> Disney assistance! They know that the corporate
shareholders assume, like
> the rest of the public, that anything with the name
"Disney" on it is and
> always has always been manufactured, created and/or
published by Disney, so
> they fuel the misconception with such a despicable
untruth.
> Brrrrrrrrrrrr......

Brrr indeed, but I guess those claims are meant to the
U.S. audience mainly. Such claim would be silly in
Europe, where Disney magazines also publish
*non*-Disney comics, and are made by well known local
publishers.

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Eero-Pekka Halinen
Don Rosa wrote:

>Again, for the American public to buy such a book, even if it existed, they
>would all have to move to Finland. Is there that much surplus apartment
>space there?
>

Actually there might be. AN average of 15.3 live on a square kilometre,
while in U.S.A there are 30.2 people on the same area. Finlands whole area
is about 338 000 km2, so I think that at least 338 000 Duckfans (if there
even are that many in U.S.A) could move here. We could always have one more
person on a square kilometre. Though, Finland is mostly wilderness, so the
figure should (realistically speaking) be a lot smaller. But, if they REALLY
are Duckfans, they could always live on the top of a fjeld or build a little
shack on some large moss-covered rock in the woods.

Eero-Pekka

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Mark Wright
Don Rosa wrote:

<Gort, Klattu birada nikto. Squa tront!>

Do we get brownie points for recognizing the reference to "The Day the
Earth Stood Still"?

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Sue And Gary Leach
"Horizon" wrote:

> [Disney states] that "we are now the world's largest publisher
> of children's books and magazines, putting out publications that are read by
> 100 million people in 55 languages in 74 countries." Given the squishiness of
> corporate statements, this could mean several different things, but there it
> is.

Under the proper definition of publisher, this would not include comic
books. In that arena, at best, they might have justification to claim they
are the world's largest publishing licensor. Big difference, especially in
terms of corporate effort and risk.

Gary
Timo Ronkainen
Hi all!

Leading Finnish tabloid Ilta-Sanomat (Evening News) on it's first page with
huge headlines:
"Imprisonment to Impudent Thief of Donald Duck -books".
Main news of today's issue is about young man who stole in 2000 bound
volumes of Aku Ankka comic books from his working place in Library of
Helsinki University. Volumes are old (1952 and 1954) and worth of 20 000 -
28 000 euros. They were donated to the library by Aku Ankka's first Editor
in Chief Sirkka Ruotsalainen. Thief got two months and was jugded to pay 7
500 euros as compensation for damage to the library. Volumes are still
missing.

Greetings
Timo

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Olivier
Hi!

Timo:
>> Main news of today's issue is about young man who stole in 2000 bound
>> volumes of Aku Ankka comic books from his working place in Library of
>> Helsinki University. Volumes are old (1952 and 1954) and worth of 20 000 -
>> 28 000 euros.

Funny. Yesterday I read the leading DD story in last week's Journal de Mickey by a Dutch artist but
I haven't checked who yet.
In that story, Donald wants to be a fireman; to hire him, the chief wantshim to prove he has
experience. Donald then looks for the first DD comic book (I presume it's the first Akku Ankka or
equivalent), which reprinted Barks' fireman story (the first one). This comic book is worth a
fortune and several speculators want it too.

Olivier
Timo Ronkainen
>From: "Olivier" In that story, Donald wants to be a fireman; to hire him,
>the chief wantshim to prove he has
>experience. Donald then looks for the first DD comic book (I presume it's
>the first Akku Ankka or
>equivalent), which reprinted Barks' fireman story (the first one).

That story was printed to celebrate Aku Ankka's 50'th anniversary already on
number 45 in November 7'th 2001. In Finnish version it was about the first
Aku Ankka issue, which in reality had Donald as school truant officer-story.
This first issue is priced for 25 000 marks (4167 euros). All comic book
covers in this story used covers of Aku Ankka.
In how many countries have this story printed yet?

Timo

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Don Rosa
Here's a message I just pulled off an Internet newsgroup:

From: Bob Hughes (BobHughes at 2ttlc.net)
Subject: english language disneys do exist!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
View: (This is the only article in this thread) | Original Format
Date: 2002-01-29 19:37:56 PST

English language Disney comics do exist!
Jeff Peckham recently returned from Singapore where he bought the
following:

The three issues of MICKEY MOUSE I picked up (#54-56) are all 100 page
digests, with coated cardstock covers, and a printed cover price of 30
Rupees.

The indicia of #55 says: "Copyright Disney Enterprises, Inc.
Published by Egmont Imagination (India) Ltd., Dani Wooltex Compound,
158, Vidyanagiri Marg, Kalina, Santacruz (E), Mumbai - 400 09, India,
under licence from WD Consumer Products, a division of WD India Pvt.
Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Printed at Manipal Press Limited, Manipal."

Despite being titled MICKEY MOUSE, all the stories in the books were
Donald Duck stories. Mickey and Goofy only appeared on puzzle pages a
few of which appeared in each issue. All the lettering in the books
were clearly typeset, including the sound effects.

No word on whether any of these stories were by Don Rosa.
Bob Hughes
Halsten Aastebol
At 16:59 28.01.02 +0100, Kjell Cron? wrote:

>There might be some other exceptions,
>but Sweden is a really strange exception.
>
>In 1699 they decided to switch to the Gregorian calendar by removing one day
>each year.
>It started by skipping the leap day in 1700.
>But in 1701 the decision was revoked and for some years we had a calendar
>that wasn't used anywhere else in the world.
>In 1712 we switched back to the Julian calendar, by adding a day!
>So we had 30 days in February 1712.
>In 1753 we finally switched to the Gregorian calendar, after Feb. 17 came
>March 1.
>
>Many people disliked this, since the goverment had stolen 11 days of their
>lives.

Swedes! :-)

Halsten
A Norwegian
Hunstad Knut
Hi!

Don's speculation about which day would have been Columbus' day if he had
arrived later, reminds me of something. On my little sisters birthday I
sometimes teased her about not beeing one year older yet. Since she is born
29th july 1969 late in the evening in Seattle, it would already have been
the 30th here in Europe. So her birthday shouldn't be celebrated here until
the 30th...

Actually this means that there could be almost 48hours difference in age
between two people buying alcohol legally at the same place! That's
something like 0,03%! Wow...

I look forward to reading this story :-)

Knut Hunstad
Trondheim, Norway
Hunstad Knut
Hi again!

I have long thought about binding my collection of norwegian "Donald Duck &
Co." in hardcover, 1/3 or 1/2 year per volume. Some probably think of this
as vandalism, but I think this would keep them looking better for a longer
time and not least: reduce the risk of single issues disappearing. It would
also look nicer in the bookshelf and take less space.

Problem is: I have asked around here in Norway, and the cost is simply too
high. It is in the range of $100 per volume! So I wonder if any of you out
there has done this and what price you had to pay. I am seriously
considering trying to find a good place in Russia to do this, because I
suspect the price will be so much lower that I can get a holiday for the
same price as doing it all here. Or what about Italy, has anyone there
checked this out? (I am going there a few times within the next year)

P.S.: For those who might wonder: yes, I posted a few mails here some years
ago. The last years I haven't really had time to anything else than browse
through the digests, but it is always fun to catch up on dcml!

Knut Hunstad
Trondheim, Norway
DGE
Hey everyone:

>The three issues of MICKEY MOUSE I picked up (#54-56) are all 100 page
>digests, with coated cardstock covers, and a printed cover price of 30
>Rupees.
[snip]
>Despite being titled MICKEY MOUSE, all the stories in the books were
>Donald Duck stories.

These are the Indian pocketbook series, consisting entirely of
material culled from Egmont's Jumbob?ger/Kalle Ankas Pocket/Lustiges
Taschenb?cher- D- and I-coded stories, but all in the six-panel
Topolino-style format. So Don's stories wouldn't be appearing in this
series.
Interesting that the issues contain only Donald stories. The
publishers have two other titles: MICKEY MOUSE COMIC and ADVENTURES OF
DONALD DUCK, alternating every two weeks. Just like the "Mickey" digest
mentioned above, these often have little or none of the cover-named
character and a lot of somebody else. The Donald comic has been filled
almost entirely with Mickey more than once.

David Gerstein
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