From: "Ari Seppi" <mani at iki.fi>
> He does live in the U.S... and in Finland, Sweden, Denmark... Italy,
Not in Italy :-)
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Author
Topic: 200201
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Francesco Spreafico
$crooge and Euros
Message 46 -
2002-01-08 at 20:57:00
Harald Havas
Ducks affecting language?
Message 47 -
2002-01-08 at 21:33:34
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Petri Kanninen" <pkannine at cc.hut.fi>
An: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 08. J?nner 2002 02:13
Betreff: Ducks affecting language?
> Hi!
Reading this made me wonder if there are same
> kind of things in other countries? I would think that in Scandinavia
> something like this could have happened or in Germany where the
> translations of Erica Fuchs are so loved. Or are we Finns alone with
> this habit?
O no! Disney comics and especially the translations of Erika Fuchs had a BIG
impact on German! More than can be discussed here. Some affected categories
are:
- sayings ("Dem Ingeni?r ist nichts zu schw?r" - "nothing's to difficult for
an inventor", meaning Gyro G., being the most popular of them)
- names ("Dagobert (Duck)" [Scrooge] being synonimous with "rich man")
- even grammar: Fuchs "invented" a kind of comic-language by abbreviating
the infinitive: with an English person saying "sigh" - this could be a noun
or a verb. But the noun in German would be "Seufzer", the verb "seufzen". By
writing "Seufz!" (truncating the -en) in her speech bubbles Fuchs created a
new (and yet unnamed) category of grammar - which is now widely used in
comics and even in the spoken language: "Seufz!", "Jammer!", "Schluck!",
"R?lps!" (instead of seufzen, jammern, schlucken, r?lpsen...)
Big impact, my friend ;-)
H.
Von: "Petri Kanninen" <pkannine at cc.hut.fi>
An: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 08. J?nner 2002 02:13
Betreff: Ducks affecting language?
> Hi!
Reading this made me wonder if there are same
> kind of things in other countries? I would think that in Scandinavia
> something like this could have happened or in Germany where the
> translations of Erica Fuchs are so loved. Or are we Finns alone with
> this habit?
O no! Disney comics and especially the translations of Erika Fuchs had a BIG
impact on German! More than can be discussed here. Some affected categories
are:
- sayings ("Dem Ingeni?r ist nichts zu schw?r" - "nothing's to difficult for
an inventor", meaning Gyro G., being the most popular of them)
- names ("Dagobert (Duck)" [Scrooge] being synonimous with "rich man")
- even grammar: Fuchs "invented" a kind of comic-language by abbreviating
the infinitive: with an English person saying "sigh" - this could be a noun
or a verb. But the noun in German would be "Seufzer", the verb "seufzen". By
writing "Seufz!" (truncating the -en) in her speech bubbles Fuchs created a
new (and yet unnamed) category of grammar - which is now widely used in
comics and even in the spoken language: "Seufz!", "Jammer!", "Schluck!",
"R?lps!" (instead of seufzen, jammern, schlucken, r?lpsen...)
Big impact, my friend ;-)
H.
HorizonHse
Scrooge's Counterfeit Money -- DCML digest, Vol 1 #792 - 10 msgs
Message 48 -
2002-01-09 at 02:36:15
Hi, all.
When I was in college, I worked as a receiving teller for a bank in
California. We took only deposits from large accounts that were brought in by
armored truck.
We hand counted and checked each piece of currency to be sure it wasn't
counterfeit. If we found a counterfeit bill, we deducted the amount from the
deposit and then sent the bill on to the Federal Reserve Bank.
If we had missed the counterfeit bill and the FRB had caught it, we would
have been out the face amount of the fake, so we were very careful to inspect
each bill to be sure it was genuine.
I'm sure Scrooge or someone on his staff earning 30 cents an hour does the
same thing.
I seem to remember that Scrooge has money from all the nations in which he
has done business. Given his frequent money swims and burrowing in the money
bin, it makes sense that different currencies would show up on top at
different times. Depending on where he took his swim and how far down he
burrowed, sometimes guilders would show up on top, sometimes, marks,
sometimes francs, sometimes baloonian rupees.
Regards
When I was in college, I worked as a receiving teller for a bank in
California. We took only deposits from large accounts that were brought in by
armored truck.
We hand counted and checked each piece of currency to be sure it wasn't
counterfeit. If we found a counterfeit bill, we deducted the amount from the
deposit and then sent the bill on to the Federal Reserve Bank.
If we had missed the counterfeit bill and the FRB had caught it, we would
have been out the face amount of the fake, so we were very careful to inspect
each bill to be sure it was genuine.
I'm sure Scrooge or someone on his staff earning 30 cents an hour does the
same thing.
I seem to remember that Scrooge has money from all the nations in which he
has done business. Given his frequent money swims and burrowing in the money
bin, it makes sense that different currencies would show up on top at
different times. Depending on where he took his swim and how far down he
burrowed, sometimes guilders would show up on top, sometimes, marks,
sometimes francs, sometimes baloonian rupees.
Regards
Per Starback
Technical problems
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2002-01-09 at 19:19:02
There have been technical problems with this list and other lists at
the same server today. I'm sorry about that. Everything should work
fine now.
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the same server today. I'm sorry about that. Everything should work
fine now.
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Olaf Solstrand
Counterfeit / money in money bin / writers and drawers
Message 50 -
2002-01-10 at 22:32:55
Hi, and Happy New Year! I haven't been on the Internet for a while now, so
I've just read through the last discussions very fast... but, let's try to
get into the debate again...
----------
Can someone explain the meaning of the word "counterfeit"?
----------
Through all times, we've read about money in the Money Bin in our own
currencies. As a Norwegian, I've read lots of stories where the money in the
Bin are kroner. But, here's some thoughts:
- The Scrooge _I_ know lives in USA, _not_ in Norway, Denmark or Holland, so
his daily currency must be dollars.
- BUT: As most of the coins in the bin have affection value for Scrooge,
they are probably of the value from the country he got them in. And, as
Scrooge travelled all over the world and visited all the continents, he has
probably all kinds of currencies there... So, I believe that much of it is
dollars, but that he also has lots of other currencies there, depending on
where he earned the money...
----------
How many story writers draws their own stories? I've tried to count, and
found not many... Carl Barks (unfortunately dead), Don Rosa, William van
Horn, Marco Rota, Kari Korhonen, Romano Scarpa, Daan Jippes, and I also
believe I've seen such a story written by Cesar Ferioli. Are there more?
-olaf-
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I've just read through the last discussions very fast... but, let's try to
get into the debate again...
----------
Can someone explain the meaning of the word "counterfeit"?
----------
Through all times, we've read about money in the Money Bin in our own
currencies. As a Norwegian, I've read lots of stories where the money in the
Bin are kroner. But, here's some thoughts:
- The Scrooge _I_ know lives in USA, _not_ in Norway, Denmark or Holland, so
his daily currency must be dollars.
- BUT: As most of the coins in the bin have affection value for Scrooge,
they are probably of the value from the country he got them in. And, as
Scrooge travelled all over the world and visited all the continents, he has
probably all kinds of currencies there... So, I believe that much of it is
dollars, but that he also has lots of other currencies there, depending on
where he earned the money...
----------
How many story writers draws their own stories? I've tried to count, and
found not many... Carl Barks (unfortunately dead), Don Rosa, William van
Horn, Marco Rota, Kari Korhonen, Romano Scarpa, Daan Jippes, and I also
believe I've seen such a story written by Cesar Ferioli. Are there more?
-olaf-
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Olaf: Artists that are writers, and news to the Inducks!
Message 51 -
2002-01-11 at 02:35:31
Olaf Solstrand:
>How many story writers draws their own stories? I've tried to count, and
>found not many... Carl Barks (unfortunately dead), Don Rosa, William van
>Horn, Marco Rota, Kari Korhonen, Romano Scarpa, Daan Jippes, and I also
>believe I've seen such a story written by Cesar Ferioli. Are there more?
Here in Brazil, I remeber and can say: Waldyr Igayara, Carlos Edgard
Herrero(very few, but he did!), Renato Canini and...he, he, myself!
Usually this artists, with the exception of Igayara, got the stories from
other writters, but they've did an considerable number of writen-drawing
work. Igayara usually wroted, drew and inked al his work.
So...I have GREAT news to the Inducks! I received yesterday a letter from
Canini, and he'll help us to index al his Disney work!!! QUAC! I'll send
photocopies from his stories, and he'll identify the writters or if he
writed then hinself! I'm doing my post-graduation monography getting his
work on Disney Comics as theme. :)
Great, isn't is? He also told me that the major writers of his works was
Claudio Maduar, Paulo Figueiredo and Luiz Saindemberg...(I think it's IVAN
Saidemberg, and not Luiz...)
So, I aspect to have soon data to send to Inducks into Canini's work!
Fernando!
>How many story writers draws their own stories? I've tried to count, and
>found not many... Carl Barks (unfortunately dead), Don Rosa, William van
>Horn, Marco Rota, Kari Korhonen, Romano Scarpa, Daan Jippes, and I also
>believe I've seen such a story written by Cesar Ferioli. Are there more?
Here in Brazil, I remeber and can say: Waldyr Igayara, Carlos Edgard
Herrero(very few, but he did!), Renato Canini and...he, he, myself!
Usually this artists, with the exception of Igayara, got the stories from
other writters, but they've did an considerable number of writen-drawing
work. Igayara usually wroted, drew and inked al his work.
So...I have GREAT news to the Inducks! I received yesterday a letter from
Canini, and he'll help us to index al his Disney work!!! QUAC! I'll send
photocopies from his stories, and he'll identify the writters or if he
writed then hinself! I'm doing my post-graduation monography getting his
work on Disney Comics as theme. :)
Great, isn't is? He also told me that the major writers of his works was
Claudio Maduar, Paulo Figueiredo and Luiz Saindemberg...(I think it's IVAN
Saidemberg, and not Luiz...)
So, I aspect to have soon data to send to Inducks into Canini's work!
Fernando!
Wolfsong
Sleuth
Message 52 -
2002-01-11 at 02:59:12
Does anyone know of a good site with info on the character Sleuth? He
was a Sherlock Holmes spoof with Mickey Mouse serving as his Watson.
His archrival was Prof. Nefarious who had a henchman named Piflip(sp?)
( I remember two other henchmen, but can't remember their names.) He
even made a couple of appearances on the New Mickey Mouse Club in the
Seventies. In this carnation he was actually a ventriloquist puppet
operated by Lisa Whelchel while Todd Turquand operated a Nefarious
puppet.
I only remember reading two or three Sleuth stories. Has he ever been
reprinted?
What kind of run did he have?
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was a Sherlock Holmes spoof with Mickey Mouse serving as his Watson.
His archrival was Prof. Nefarious who had a henchman named Piflip(sp?)
( I remember two other henchmen, but can't remember their names.) He
even made a couple of appearances on the New Mickey Mouse Club in the
Seventies. In this carnation he was actually a ventriloquist puppet
operated by Lisa Whelchel while Todd Turquand operated a Nefarious
puppet.
I only remember reading two or three Sleuth stories. Has he ever been
reprinted?
What kind of run did he have?
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reasons.
Please visit The Unofficial Cartoon Character Hall of Fame at:
http://www.toonhalloffame.com
Halvor Sandven
Writers and drawers
Message 53 -
2002-01-11 at 10:26:22
>===== Original Message From "Olaf Solstrand" <harryklein at hotmail.com> =====
>How many story writers draws their own stories? I've tried to count, and
>found not many... Carl Barks (unfortunately dead), Don Rosa, William van
>Horn, Marco Rota, Kari Korhonen, Romano Scarpa, Daan Jippes, and I also
>believe I've seen such a story written by Cesar Ferioli. Are there more?
>
Hi!
Since you include Barks, I suppose you are interested in artists both active
and not active (or dead). Here are some more artists I've found that are both
writers and artists (according to INDUCKS):
Bob Gregory
He wrote and drew many duck-stories in the 60ies and 70ies.
Ben Verhagen
He wrote and drew just a few stories. I guess the only one we have seen in
norwegian weekly is 'Bugged by Humbuggery' in 41/92.
Dick Moores
He both wrote and drew some of his nice Mickey-stories in the 50ies.
(Examples: 'Goofy's Mechanical Wizard' and 'The Wonderful Whizzix')
Flemming Andersen
These stories are mostly seen in the pocket-books. I find only one short story
published in the weekly that he both wrote and drew. This is a Fethry-story (D
90266 in 42/91)
Freddy Milton
Some very nice duck-stories here. The last one (I think) in the norwegian
weekly, was 'Stove, sweet stove' (H 83001 in 42/99)
Gil Turner
He both wrote and drew many excellent stories with the wolves and pigs.
Jan Gulbransson
Several nice stories here.
Millet
According to INDUCKS, there's this one story: 'Pig Watch' (D 94219). Is this
correct?
Luciano Bottaro
He both wrote and drew several good stories. Only one of these is seen in the
norwegian weekly. This is 'Paperino e il tesoro di Papero Magno' (I TL 873 in
35-37/74)
Mau Heymans
This wonderful artist has also written some of his stories.
Noel vanHorn
Well, I like him better as a writer than as an artist.
Peter H?rdfeldt
Mostly MIckey-stories. Example: 'The Great Indian Rope Trick' (D 97631)
Volker Reiche
Some very, very nice stories here. He's one of my favorites!
Wilma van den Bosch
Not many of these are seen in the norwegian weekly. I believe it's only the
Little Hiawatha-story 'Geruisloos sluipen' (H 86118 in 2/89).
I guess there are many more, but these are the ones that has been seen in the
norwegian weekly.
Halvor
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>How many story writers draws their own stories? I've tried to count, and
>found not many... Carl Barks (unfortunately dead), Don Rosa, William van
>Horn, Marco Rota, Kari Korhonen, Romano Scarpa, Daan Jippes, and I also
>believe I've seen such a story written by Cesar Ferioli. Are there more?
>
Hi!
Since you include Barks, I suppose you are interested in artists both active
and not active (or dead). Here are some more artists I've found that are both
writers and artists (according to INDUCKS):
Bob Gregory
He wrote and drew many duck-stories in the 60ies and 70ies.
Ben Verhagen
He wrote and drew just a few stories. I guess the only one we have seen in
norwegian weekly is 'Bugged by Humbuggery' in 41/92.
Dick Moores
He both wrote and drew some of his nice Mickey-stories in the 50ies.
(Examples: 'Goofy's Mechanical Wizard' and 'The Wonderful Whizzix')
Flemming Andersen
These stories are mostly seen in the pocket-books. I find only one short story
published in the weekly that he both wrote and drew. This is a Fethry-story (D
90266 in 42/91)
Freddy Milton
Some very nice duck-stories here. The last one (I think) in the norwegian
weekly, was 'Stove, sweet stove' (H 83001 in 42/99)
Gil Turner
He both wrote and drew many excellent stories with the wolves and pigs.
Jan Gulbransson
Several nice stories here.
Millet
According to INDUCKS, there's this one story: 'Pig Watch' (D 94219). Is this
correct?
Luciano Bottaro
He both wrote and drew several good stories. Only one of these is seen in the
norwegian weekly. This is 'Paperino e il tesoro di Papero Magno' (I TL 873 in
35-37/74)
Mau Heymans
This wonderful artist has also written some of his stories.
Noel vanHorn
Well, I like him better as a writer than as an artist.
Peter H?rdfeldt
Mostly MIckey-stories. Example: 'The Great Indian Rope Trick' (D 97631)
Volker Reiche
Some very, very nice stories here. He's one of my favorites!
Wilma van den Bosch
Not many of these are seen in the norwegian weekly. I believe it's only the
Little Hiawatha-story 'Geruisloos sluipen' (H 86118 in 2/89).
I guess there are many more, but these are the ones that has been seen in the
norwegian weekly.
Halvor
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Counterfeit
Message 54 -
2002-01-11 at 13:19:47
OLAF:
> Can someone explain the meaning of the word "counterfeit"?
According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary (http://www.m-w.com/):
Main Entry: coun?ter?feit
Pronunciation: 'kaunt-&r-"fit
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English countrefet, from Middle French contrefait, from past
participle of contrefaire to imitate, from contre- + faire to make, from Latin
facere -- more at DO
Date: 14th century
1 : made in imitation of something else with intent to deceive : FORGED
<counterfeit money>
2 a : INSINCERE, FEIGNED <counterfeit sympathy> b : IMITATION <counterfeit
Georgian houses>
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"This is the bit where one of us suggests we split up and look around, and the
monster picks us off and eats us one by one."
-----
> Can someone explain the meaning of the word "counterfeit"?
According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary (http://www.m-w.com/):
Main Entry: coun?ter?feit
Pronunciation: 'kaunt-&r-"fit
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English countrefet, from Middle French contrefait, from past
participle of contrefaire to imitate, from contre- + faire to make, from Latin
facere -- more at DO
Date: 14th century
1 : made in imitation of something else with intent to deceive : FORGED
<counterfeit money>
2 a : INSINCERE, FEIGNED <counterfeit sympathy> b : IMITATION <counterfeit
Georgian houses>
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"This is the bit where one of us suggests we split up and look around, and the
monster picks us off and eats us one by one."
-----
François Willot
Writers and drawers
Message 55 -
2002-01-11 at 20:04:22
>From: Halvor Sandven <Halvor_Sandven at no.mailandnews.com>
>Millet
>According to INDUCKS, there's this one story: 'Pig Watch' (D 94219). Is
this
>correct?
No, he did 300 stories (listed in Inducks).
>Since you include Barks, I suppose you are interested in artists both
active
>and not active (or dead). Here are some more artists I've found that are
both
>writers and artists (according to INDUCKS):
If you're curious here are some others using data from Inducks.
Carl Barks 1158
Romano Scarpa 390
Guido Scala 205
William Van Horn 184
Don Rosa 172
Gilles Corre 132
Michel Motti 130
Floyd Gottfredson 122
Silvia Ziche 112
Gil Turner 82
E.C. Segar 82
Enrico Faccini 76
Marco Rota 70
Massimo De Vita 66
Bob Gregory 62
Dick Matena 59
Giuseppe Zironi 54
Maurizio Amendola 52
Giulio Chierchini 44
Carlo Gentina 43
Staff di IF 42
Giorgio Bordini 41
Carl Buettner 40
Jeroen Steehouwer 32
Giovan Battista Carpi 32
Luciano Bottaro 29
Mau Heymans 26
G. Moroni Celsi 25
Carol Voges 24
Comicup Studio 24
Lucio Leoni 23
Primaggio Mantovi 22
Kari Korhonen 22
Onofrio Bramante 22
B?rge Ring 21
Daan Jippes 20
Walt Kelly 20
Peter H?rdfeldt 20
Pier Paolo Rovero 18
Giorgio Cavazzano 18
Pierre Nicolas 17
Giampiero Ubezio 17
Wilbert Plijnaar 16
Noel Van Horn 15
Wilma van den Bosch 15
Vic Lockman 14
Alessandro Perina 12
Freddy Milton 12
Jan Gulbransson 11
Silvio Camboni 11
Then lots of people with ten or less.
Maybe Al Taliaferro also should be listed, as he wrote or rewrote many of
his strips...
Francois Willot
>Millet
>According to INDUCKS, there's this one story: 'Pig Watch' (D 94219). Is
this
>correct?
No, he did 300 stories (listed in Inducks).
>Since you include Barks, I suppose you are interested in artists both
active
>and not active (or dead). Here are some more artists I've found that are
both
>writers and artists (according to INDUCKS):
If you're curious here are some others using data from Inducks.
Carl Barks 1158
Romano Scarpa 390
Guido Scala 205
William Van Horn 184
Don Rosa 172
Gilles Corre 132
Michel Motti 130
Floyd Gottfredson 122
Silvia Ziche 112
Gil Turner 82
E.C. Segar 82
Enrico Faccini 76
Marco Rota 70
Massimo De Vita 66
Bob Gregory 62
Dick Matena 59
Giuseppe Zironi 54
Maurizio Amendola 52
Giulio Chierchini 44
Carlo Gentina 43
Staff di IF 42
Giorgio Bordini 41
Carl Buettner 40
Jeroen Steehouwer 32
Giovan Battista Carpi 32
Luciano Bottaro 29
Mau Heymans 26
G. Moroni Celsi 25
Carol Voges 24
Comicup Studio 24
Lucio Leoni 23
Primaggio Mantovi 22
Kari Korhonen 22
Onofrio Bramante 22
B?rge Ring 21
Daan Jippes 20
Walt Kelly 20
Peter H?rdfeldt 20
Pier Paolo Rovero 18
Giorgio Cavazzano 18
Pierre Nicolas 17
Giampiero Ubezio 17
Wilbert Plijnaar 16
Noel Van Horn 15
Wilma van den Bosch 15
Vic Lockman 14
Alessandro Perina 12
Freddy Milton 12
Jan Gulbransson 11
Silvio Camboni 11
Then lots of people with ten or less.
Maybe Al Taliaferro also should be listed, as he wrote or rewrote many of
his strips...
Francois Willot
Archontis Pantsios
MIKY MAOUS et al
Message 56 -
2002-01-12 at 13:08:00
Fellow Quackeroos:
The following issues hit the Greek stands last week:
1) MIKY MAOUS #1851, January 4, 2002 (100 pages; Cover price: 1.17 euro)
a) Mickey Mouse in "La banda sbandata", from "Topolino" #498, 1965 (30
pages). Script: Gian Giacomo Dalmasso; Art: Luciano Gatto
b) Daisy Duck in "La prisma risolutore", from "Topolino" #2268, 1999 (30
pages). Script: Carlo Panaro; Art: Alessandro Gottardo
c) Goofy in "The Aspiring Pilot", S-76164, 11 pages. Script: Howard Swift;
Art: The Disney Studio
d) Gyro Gearloose in "L' idea nel cassetta", from "Topolino" #2198, 1998 (5
pages). Script: Augusto Macchetto; Art: Marco Gervasio
2) MEGALO MIKY #413, January 2002 (116 pages; Cover price: 2.79 euro)
a) "Atlantis: The Lost Empire", comic-book adaptation of the recently
released Disney cartoon, 47 pages. Creators unknown
b) Uncle Scrooge in "Il miniesercito", S-68174, 19 pages (was first
published in "Almanacco Topolino" #150, 1969). Script: Gian Giacomo
Dalmasso; Art: Giovan Battista Carpi
c) Super Goof in "The Playful Snowman", S-71023, 11 pages. Script: Unknown;
Art: Tony Strobl
d) The Beagle Boys in "The Usual Bad Luck", S-77070, 7 pages. Script:
Unknown; Art: Tony Strobl
3) MINNI #64, January 2002 (132 pages; Cover price: 2.35 euro)
a) Minnie in "La renna di Babo Natale", from "Minni" #7, 1993 (18 pages).
Script: Nino Russo; Art: Franco Valussi
b) Minnie in "Il libro stragato", from "Minni" #63, 1998 (13 pages). Script:
Nino Russo; Art: Stefano Mirone
c) Daisy Duck in "Come ti capisco, Paperina", from "Minni" #39, 1996 (14
pages). Script: Rivolo Scott; Art: Alessandro Perina
d) Minnie in "Un pacco per Clarabella", from "Minni" #49, 1997 (15 pages).
Script: Francois Corteggiani; Art: Roberto Vian
'Till next week,
Archontis
--------------------------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228
The following issues hit the Greek stands last week:
1) MIKY MAOUS #1851, January 4, 2002 (100 pages; Cover price: 1.17 euro)
a) Mickey Mouse in "La banda sbandata", from "Topolino" #498, 1965 (30
pages). Script: Gian Giacomo Dalmasso; Art: Luciano Gatto
b) Daisy Duck in "La prisma risolutore", from "Topolino" #2268, 1999 (30
pages). Script: Carlo Panaro; Art: Alessandro Gottardo
c) Goofy in "The Aspiring Pilot", S-76164, 11 pages. Script: Howard Swift;
Art: The Disney Studio
d) Gyro Gearloose in "L' idea nel cassetta", from "Topolino" #2198, 1998 (5
pages). Script: Augusto Macchetto; Art: Marco Gervasio
2) MEGALO MIKY #413, January 2002 (116 pages; Cover price: 2.79 euro)
a) "Atlantis: The Lost Empire", comic-book adaptation of the recently
released Disney cartoon, 47 pages. Creators unknown
b) Uncle Scrooge in "Il miniesercito", S-68174, 19 pages (was first
published in "Almanacco Topolino" #150, 1969). Script: Gian Giacomo
Dalmasso; Art: Giovan Battista Carpi
c) Super Goof in "The Playful Snowman", S-71023, 11 pages. Script: Unknown;
Art: Tony Strobl
d) The Beagle Boys in "The Usual Bad Luck", S-77070, 7 pages. Script:
Unknown; Art: Tony Strobl
3) MINNI #64, January 2002 (132 pages; Cover price: 2.35 euro)
a) Minnie in "La renna di Babo Natale", from "Minni" #7, 1993 (18 pages).
Script: Nino Russo; Art: Franco Valussi
b) Minnie in "Il libro stragato", from "Minni" #63, 1998 (13 pages). Script:
Nino Russo; Art: Stefano Mirone
c) Daisy Duck in "Come ti capisco, Paperina", from "Minni" #39, 1996 (14
pages). Script: Rivolo Scott; Art: Alessandro Perina
d) Minnie in "Un pacco per Clarabella", from "Minni" #49, 1997 (15 pages).
Script: Francois Corteggiani; Art: Roberto Vian
'Till next week,
Archontis
--------------------------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228
Rob Klein
Disney Writer/Artists
Message 57 -
2002-01-12 at 13:28:42
Regarding Disney Comics writer/artists:
I believe we forgot to mention Pat Block (Gladstone stories), and Bas Heymans
(I believe he did some writing on at least a few of his drawn stories). I'm
sure there are several more we've forgotten.
Regarding Francois' list: That list appears to me in some ways, that it might
have much too small totals for some of the artists. i can't believe that Daan
Jippes has only written 20 of the many stories he has drawn, and Freddy milton
only 12 (I KNOW that is many too few), and Jan Gulbransson only 11!!!
I am shocked to read that E.C. Segar wrote and drew DISNEY stories!!! What
characters? What magazines???
Rob Klein
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I believe we forgot to mention Pat Block (Gladstone stories), and Bas Heymans
(I believe he did some writing on at least a few of his drawn stories). I'm
sure there are several more we've forgotten.
Regarding Francois' list: That list appears to me in some ways, that it might
have much too small totals for some of the artists. i can't believe that Daan
Jippes has only written 20 of the many stories he has drawn, and Freddy milton
only 12 (I KNOW that is many too few), and Jan Gulbransson only 11!!!
I am shocked to read that E.C. Segar wrote and drew DISNEY stories!!! What
characters? What magazines???
Rob Klein
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Marco Barlotti
Artist writers
Message 58 -
2002-01-12 at 14:26:08
At 12.01 12/01/2002 +0100, "François Willot"
<willot.francois at ec-lille.fr> wrote:
>Here are some more artists I've found that are both
>writers and artists (according to INDUCKS):
>
>Carl Barks 1158
>Romano Scarpa 390
>Guido Scala 205
>[...]
>G. Moroni Celsi 25
>[...]
What are those numbers? Known reprints?
Certainly not the number of stories written and drawn... Barks only drew
about 700 stories, for instance.
By the way: Moroni Celsi did *not* draw Disney comics, I think.
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
<willot.francois at ec-lille.fr> wrote:
>Here are some more artists I've found that are both
>writers and artists (according to INDUCKS):
>
>Carl Barks 1158
>Romano Scarpa 390
>Guido Scala 205
>[...]
>G. Moroni Celsi 25
>[...]
What are those numbers? Known reprints?
Certainly not the number of stories written and drawn... Barks only drew
about 700 stories, for instance.
By the way: Moroni Celsi did *not* draw Disney comics, I think.
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
François Willot
Artists & writers
Message 59 -
2002-01-12 at 21:48:55
>From: Marco Barlotti <marcobar at ds.unifi.it>
> >Carl Barks 1158
> >Romano Scarpa 390
> >[...]
> >G. Moroni Celsi 25
> >[...]
> What are those numbers? Known reprints?
> Certainly not the number of stories written and drawn... Barks only drew
> about 700 stories, for instance.
As a mathematician, you should have noticed that most of the numbers were
even, and so, that something was wrong! In fact - silly error from me - many
of these numbers need to be divided by two. Which means that Barks' total
really is 1158/2 = 579 which is plausible.
> By the way: Moroni Celsi did *not* draw Disney comics, I think.
You're right, he only made some non-Disney comics. I forgot that there are
non-Disney comics in Inducks now.
So let me make a second attempt (the LAST one):
Carl Barks 578
Guido Scala 205
Romano Scarpa 195
Michel Motti 130
William Van Horn 93
Don Rosa 86
Enrico Faccini 76
Gilles Corre 66
Bob Gregory 62
Floyd Gottfredson 61
Dick Matena 59
Silvia Ziche 57
Giuseppe Zironi 54
Giulio Chierchini 44
Carlo Gentina 43
Staff di IF 42
Gil Turner 41
Giorgio Bordini 41
Carl Buettner 40
Marco Rota 35
Massimo De Vita 33
Jeroen Steehouwer 32
Luciano Bottaro 29
Mau Heymans 26
Maurizio Amendola 26
Carol Voges 24
Lucio Leoni 23
Primaggio Mantovi 22
Onofrio Bramante 22
Borge Ring 21
Peter Hardfeldt 20
Pier Paolo Rovero 18
Pierre Nicolas 17
Giampiero Ubezio 17
Giovan Battista Carpi 16
Wilbert Plijnaar 16
Noel Van Horn 15
Wilma van den Bosch 15
Vic Lockman 14
Alessandro Perina 12
Comicup Studio 12
Freddy Milton 12
Jan Gulbransson 11
Kari Korhonen 11
Silvio Camboni 11
Daan Jippes 10
Luis Destuet 10
Walt Kelly 10
Giorgio Cavazzano 9
Ben Verhagen 8
Mark de Jonge 8
Corrado Mastantuono 8
Alessio Coppola 8
August Lenox 8
Miguel Fernandec Martinez 7
Hakon Aasnes 7
Tiberio Colantuoni 6
Giorgio Rebuffi 6
Ed van Schuijlenburg 5
Sergio Asteriti 5
Dick Moores 5
Flemming Andersen 5
Blasco Pisapia 5
Philippe Larbier 5
Michael Engler-Kellersmann 5
Volker Reiche 5
Francesco Guerrini 5
Giampaolo Soldati 4
Kim Syberg 3
Luciano Gatto 3
Christian Hagen 3
Carlo Limido 3
Alessia Martusciello 3
Ken Hultgren 3
Roger Armstrong 3
Mar?al Abella Bresco 3
Basil Reynolds 3
Ottavio Panaro 3
Federico Pedrocchi 3
Jules Coenen 2
John Blair Moore 2
Alessandro Gottardo 2
Jack Hannah 2
Fernando Ventura 2
Joop Veltman 2
Julian Jordan 2
Luciano Milano 2
Davide Cesarello 2
C?sar Ferioli Pelaez 2
Waldyr Igayara de Souza 2
Victor Arriagada Rios 2
Studio Recreo 2
Pete Alvarado 1
Jos? Ramon Bernado 1
Yannick Hodbert 1
Giuseppe Ferrario 1
Paolo Ongaro 1
Harry Gladstone 1
Robert van der Kroft 1
Pierre le Goff 1
Stefano De Lellis 1
Stefano Mirone 1
Manuela Razzi 1
Jos? Maria Millet Lopez 1
Federico Mancuso 1
Bill Wright 1
Lino Gorlero 1
Andrea Freccero 1
Earl Duvall 1
Josep Tello Gonzalez 1
Danilo Barozzi 1
Luca Boschi 1
Stefano Turconi 1
Julio Ramos 1
Alain Cl?ment 1
Claudio Panarese 1
Stephen DeStefano 1
Daniel Branca 1
Jesper Lund Madsen 1
Danny Wanner 1
Pauline 1
Roberto Marini 1
Nicola Tosolini 1
Guus van Cleef 1
Pier Dario Pennati 1
Marty Greim 1
Marco Palazzi 1
Renato Vinicius Canini 1
Sandro Dossi 1
Gino Esposito 1
(no one) 1
Jos? Colomer Fonts 1
Francesco Artibani 1
Gisella Rivolo Scott 1
Marco Forcelloni 1
ROB KLEIN:
>That list appears to me in some ways, that it might
>have much too small totals for some of the artists. i can't believe that
Daan
>Jippes has only written 20 of the many stories he has drawn, and Freddy
milton
>only 12 (I KNOW that is many too few), and Jan Gulbransson only 11!!!
I didn't count stories made in collaboration with others. I think Jippes
made many of his stories with others, like Milton, so maybe that is the
reason.
Maybe they ought to be counted but that would be much more difficult and
time-consuming...
>I am shocked to read that E.C. Segar wrote and drew DISNEY stories!!! What
>characters? What magazines???
Quite a scoop! No, he didn't (same error as with Moroni Celsi).
Francois
(
The Disney Database: http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/
Elected site of the month at RALPH'S COMIC CORNER
http://ralphscomiccorner.com/
)
> >Carl Barks 1158
> >Romano Scarpa 390
> >[...]
> >G. Moroni Celsi 25
> >[...]
> What are those numbers? Known reprints?
> Certainly not the number of stories written and drawn... Barks only drew
> about 700 stories, for instance.
As a mathematician, you should have noticed that most of the numbers were
even, and so, that something was wrong! In fact - silly error from me - many
of these numbers need to be divided by two. Which means that Barks' total
really is 1158/2 = 579 which is plausible.
> By the way: Moroni Celsi did *not* draw Disney comics, I think.
You're right, he only made some non-Disney comics. I forgot that there are
non-Disney comics in Inducks now.
So let me make a second attempt (the LAST one):
Carl Barks 578
Guido Scala 205
Romano Scarpa 195
Michel Motti 130
William Van Horn 93
Don Rosa 86
Enrico Faccini 76
Gilles Corre 66
Bob Gregory 62
Floyd Gottfredson 61
Dick Matena 59
Silvia Ziche 57
Giuseppe Zironi 54
Giulio Chierchini 44
Carlo Gentina 43
Staff di IF 42
Gil Turner 41
Giorgio Bordini 41
Carl Buettner 40
Marco Rota 35
Massimo De Vita 33
Jeroen Steehouwer 32
Luciano Bottaro 29
Mau Heymans 26
Maurizio Amendola 26
Carol Voges 24
Lucio Leoni 23
Primaggio Mantovi 22
Onofrio Bramante 22
Borge Ring 21
Peter Hardfeldt 20
Pier Paolo Rovero 18
Pierre Nicolas 17
Giampiero Ubezio 17
Giovan Battista Carpi 16
Wilbert Plijnaar 16
Noel Van Horn 15
Wilma van den Bosch 15
Vic Lockman 14
Alessandro Perina 12
Comicup Studio 12
Freddy Milton 12
Jan Gulbransson 11
Kari Korhonen 11
Silvio Camboni 11
Daan Jippes 10
Luis Destuet 10
Walt Kelly 10
Giorgio Cavazzano 9
Ben Verhagen 8
Mark de Jonge 8
Corrado Mastantuono 8
Alessio Coppola 8
August Lenox 8
Miguel Fernandec Martinez 7
Hakon Aasnes 7
Tiberio Colantuoni 6
Giorgio Rebuffi 6
Ed van Schuijlenburg 5
Sergio Asteriti 5
Dick Moores 5
Flemming Andersen 5
Blasco Pisapia 5
Philippe Larbier 5
Michael Engler-Kellersmann 5
Volker Reiche 5
Francesco Guerrini 5
Giampaolo Soldati 4
Kim Syberg 3
Luciano Gatto 3
Christian Hagen 3
Carlo Limido 3
Alessia Martusciello 3
Ken Hultgren 3
Roger Armstrong 3
Mar?al Abella Bresco 3
Basil Reynolds 3
Ottavio Panaro 3
Federico Pedrocchi 3
Jules Coenen 2
John Blair Moore 2
Alessandro Gottardo 2
Jack Hannah 2
Fernando Ventura 2
Joop Veltman 2
Julian Jordan 2
Luciano Milano 2
Davide Cesarello 2
C?sar Ferioli Pelaez 2
Waldyr Igayara de Souza 2
Victor Arriagada Rios 2
Studio Recreo 2
Pete Alvarado 1
Jos? Ramon Bernado 1
Yannick Hodbert 1
Giuseppe Ferrario 1
Paolo Ongaro 1
Harry Gladstone 1
Robert van der Kroft 1
Pierre le Goff 1
Stefano De Lellis 1
Stefano Mirone 1
Manuela Razzi 1
Jos? Maria Millet Lopez 1
Federico Mancuso 1
Bill Wright 1
Lino Gorlero 1
Andrea Freccero 1
Earl Duvall 1
Josep Tello Gonzalez 1
Danilo Barozzi 1
Luca Boschi 1
Stefano Turconi 1
Julio Ramos 1
Alain Cl?ment 1
Claudio Panarese 1
Stephen DeStefano 1
Daniel Branca 1
Jesper Lund Madsen 1
Danny Wanner 1
Pauline 1
Roberto Marini 1
Nicola Tosolini 1
Guus van Cleef 1
Pier Dario Pennati 1
Marty Greim 1
Marco Palazzi 1
Renato Vinicius Canini 1
Sandro Dossi 1
Gino Esposito 1
(no one) 1
Jos? Colomer Fonts 1
Francesco Artibani 1
Gisella Rivolo Scott 1
Marco Forcelloni 1
ROB KLEIN:
>That list appears to me in some ways, that it might
>have much too small totals for some of the artists. i can't believe that
Daan
>Jippes has only written 20 of the many stories he has drawn, and Freddy
milton
>only 12 (I KNOW that is many too few), and Jan Gulbransson only 11!!!
I didn't count stories made in collaboration with others. I think Jippes
made many of his stories with others, like Milton, so maybe that is the
reason.
Maybe they ought to be counted but that would be much more difficult and
time-consuming...
>I am shocked to read that E.C. Segar wrote and drew DISNEY stories!!! What
>characters? What magazines???
Quite a scoop! No, he didn't (same error as with Moroni Celsi).
Francois
(
The Disney Database: http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/
Elected site of the month at RALPH'S COMIC CORNER
http://ralphscomiccorner.com/
)
Francesco Spreafico
Artists & writers
Message 60 -
2002-01-12 at 22:17:32
From: "Fran?ois Willot" <willot.francois at ec-lille.fr>
> Guido Scala 205
This one surprised me a bit, since I don't remember GSc being such a
prolific writer! So I tried a
SELECT title FROM story WHERE art = writ AND art= "GSc"
and found out the reason: all the 2-page "quiz sayings" and "weekly
advertisements"!
So I played a bit with SQL and tried the next:
SELECT art,
sum(pages) as total
FROM story
WHERE art = writ and pagel <> "c" and pagel <> "i"
GROUP BY art
ORDER BY total DESC
that means: count the comic pages (no covers nor illustrations) written and
drawn by the same artist, sum them up, and show them ordered)
I found this: (I wonder if they're right)
Carl Barks 5817
Romano Scarpa 5266
Giulio Chierchini 2064
Don Rosa 1300
Giorgio Bordini 1081
Massiom De Vita 976
Guido Scala 965
IF staff 849
William Van Horn 844
Luciano Bottaro 840
--
Francesco
> Guido Scala 205
This one surprised me a bit, since I don't remember GSc being such a
prolific writer! So I tried a
SELECT title FROM story WHERE art = writ AND art= "GSc"
and found out the reason: all the 2-page "quiz sayings" and "weekly
advertisements"!
So I played a bit with SQL and tried the next:
SELECT art,
sum(pages) as total
FROM story
WHERE art = writ and pagel <> "c" and pagel <> "i"
GROUP BY art
ORDER BY total DESC
that means: count the comic pages (no covers nor illustrations) written and
drawn by the same artist, sum them up, and show them ordered)
I found this: (I wonder if they're right)
Carl Barks 5817
Romano Scarpa 5266
Giulio Chierchini 2064
Don Rosa 1300
Giorgio Bordini 1081
Massiom De Vita 976
Guido Scala 965
IF staff 849
William Van Horn 844
Luciano Bottaro 840
--
Francesco