To Rob Klein:
(Sorry to use the DCML for private correspondence, but it is DC related.)
You seem to be having more troubles than not being able to e-mail to Bob
Hughes. I tried to send you the following message in reply to your message
to me, but it bounced back saying that your server was rejecting all
mail. Here it is:
-------------------------------------------
>>>> I sent an e-mail to Bob Hughes using the e-mail address on your note,
and it came back as undeliverable. If you still have it, I'd appreciate it
if you could check it against this address: <BobHughes at 2ttlc.net>
You didn't include the < > brackets inserted by the newsgroup message
header, did you? The address is actually just BobHughes at 2ttlc.net .
And if that doesn't work, I have no other suggestions. I replied to his
message within the newsgroup asking pretty much the same thing you want to
know -- if he in turn replies to me, I'll let you know.
Author
Topic: 200201
(286 messages)
Don Rosa
To Rob Klein
Message 271 -
2002-01-31 at 07:39:46
Olivier
Celebration story (Grand Donald Duck Theft)
Message 272 -
2002-01-31 at 11:45:42
Harry:
>> This must be the story celebrating 2500 issues of Dutch DD weekly (in
>> DD2000-36)!
>> The story shows caricatures of the two oldest comic shop owners in Holland:
Thanks for the information
Sorry, I didn't give the code: H 20107.
>>H 20108 (5 pages).
I don't see any other code. They must have erased it.
> How are these people translated in the various countries?
The first one is unnamed. He's desperately looking for the first AA.
The second one is named Bo Synopsis ("nice synopsis"). He has one AA for sell ($100). When the book
is torn to pieces, he cries: "Is likfe still worth living without the first AA?", then kicks Donald
out of his shop: "I'm not interested in flesh & blood ducks! All I want is this first issue!"
>> "For 10 guilders you can have a brief look at my copy of the comic!"
That's a very funny line which should have been kept.
Olivier
>> This must be the story celebrating 2500 issues of Dutch DD weekly (in
>> DD2000-36)!
>> The story shows caricatures of the two oldest comic shop owners in Holland:
Thanks for the information
Sorry, I didn't give the code: H 20107.
>>H 20108 (5 pages).
I don't see any other code. They must have erased it.
> How are these people translated in the various countries?
The first one is unnamed. He's desperately looking for the first AA.
The second one is named Bo Synopsis ("nice synopsis"). He has one AA for sell ($100). When the book
is torn to pieces, he cries: "Is likfe still worth living without the first AA?", then kicks Donald
out of his shop: "I'm not interested in flesh & blood ducks! All I want is this first issue!"
>> "For 10 guilders you can have a brief look at my copy of the comic!"
That's a very funny line which should have been kept.
Olivier
Hans Kiesl
Languages/countries [OT]
Message 273 -
2002-01-31 at 13:33:47
Harry wrote:
> Interesting. Especially since the area of France next to the
> German border was part of Germany until 1874 (and again from
> 1939-1945). Most people there should still speak a German dialect,
> as well as the French they learn at school. So maybe the German man
> had another, more hidden, reason to be angry...
This is very off-topic, but I couldn't resist nitpicking: basically,
Alsace had been French from 1648 until 1871, and was part of
"Deutsches Reich" between 1871 and 1918. Since then, it has
been part of France again (with the exception of the German
occupation between 1940 and 1945).
-Hans-
(who deeply hopes that the rivalry between Germany and France
will be buried forever [with the exception of football matches, of
course...])
> Interesting. Especially since the area of France next to the
> German border was part of Germany until 1874 (and again from
> 1939-1945). Most people there should still speak a German dialect,
> as well as the French they learn at school. So maybe the German man
> had another, more hidden, reason to be angry...
This is very off-topic, but I couldn't resist nitpicking: basically,
Alsace had been French from 1648 until 1871, and was part of
"Deutsches Reich" between 1871 and 1918. Since then, it has
been part of France again (with the exception of the German
occupation between 1940 and 1945).
-Hans-
(who deeply hopes that the rivalry between Germany and France
will be buried forever [with the exception of football matches, of
course...])
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #820 - 18 msgs
Message 274 -
2002-01-31 at 14:28:51
HARRY:
> This makes things even more complicated than conversion to the euro. I just
> realise that a remembrance day in my city of birth (Groningen), celebrates
> August 28, 1672. Groningen converted to Gregorian calendar in about 1710. So
> what are we celebrating every year on August 28? Hm...
I don't know about Holland, but here's an example from Greek history,
where the Gregorian calendar was adopted on March 9, 1924. Our
independence day is on March 25, celebrating the start of the revolution
against the Turks in 1821. The event that is actually celebrated took
place on annunciation day, which means that it was on March 25, using the
Julian calendar, thus making the current celebration 13 days early. As
if this were not enough, the revolution did not really begin on March
25, but two days earlier, with the liberation of the city of Kalamata,
on March 23, something which is often mentioned as a believe-it-or-not
item in the news on March 25!
> You imply that the Balkan is not part of Europe.
No, I'm saying that it's a different part of Europe than the neighborhood
around Germany and France. You've been in Greece, and you must have
noticed that the place is significanyly different from said countries
than, say, Holland.
> To me, Europe is still more than the European Union. Last week I read
> somewhere that the geographical centre of Europe is near Vilnius in
> Lithuania...
Geographically, Europe is anything west of the Ural mountains. Politically
(i.e., the EU), it is much less, though one day it may encompass more
countries than those situated, geographically, in Europe, e.g., Turkey
(only a small part of which is situated in Europe). Finally, culturally,
Europe can be anything ranging from the entire western world (any culture
whose origins can be traced back to the ancient Greek civilization), to
whatever (geographically) European countries went through the renaissance,
which includes most countries of the EU (but not Greece) and certain
east European countries. For this last classification, I guess Brussels
is a more appropriate center than Vilnius.
DON: (Re: Sarsaparilla)
Finding the name strange, I finally got around to looking it up, and
found that it is a root, the one used in making "root beer", a much more
aromatic soda than coke or pepsi. Is root beer related in any way to the
drink to which you referred? (I don't know about the rest of Europe, but
one of the things that makes you realize that you are not in a different
part of the world is the total lack of root beer, one of the few things
I miss from my stay in the US.)
KNUT:
> Actually this means that there could be almost 48hours difference in age
> between two people buying alcohol legally at the same place! That's
> something like 0,03%! Wow...
It can be an even bigger difference, if you're talking about *buying*
alcohol, as in countries like Greece, there is no restriction regarding
who can buy alcohol, and no restriction, other than common sense, on who
can drink it. I remember, back when I was five or six, that my parents
would send me to the store to buy beer. They'd even let me have a small
sip when I sat at the table!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"You are arrogant, you 're overbearing, and you think you know everything."
"But, I do know everything."
"That makes it even worse."
-----
> This makes things even more complicated than conversion to the euro. I just
> realise that a remembrance day in my city of birth (Groningen), celebrates
> August 28, 1672. Groningen converted to Gregorian calendar in about 1710. So
> what are we celebrating every year on August 28? Hm...
I don't know about Holland, but here's an example from Greek history,
where the Gregorian calendar was adopted on March 9, 1924. Our
independence day is on March 25, celebrating the start of the revolution
against the Turks in 1821. The event that is actually celebrated took
place on annunciation day, which means that it was on March 25, using the
Julian calendar, thus making the current celebration 13 days early. As
if this were not enough, the revolution did not really begin on March
25, but two days earlier, with the liberation of the city of Kalamata,
on March 23, something which is often mentioned as a believe-it-or-not
item in the news on March 25!
> You imply that the Balkan is not part of Europe.
No, I'm saying that it's a different part of Europe than the neighborhood
around Germany and France. You've been in Greece, and you must have
noticed that the place is significanyly different from said countries
than, say, Holland.
> To me, Europe is still more than the European Union. Last week I read
> somewhere that the geographical centre of Europe is near Vilnius in
> Lithuania...
Geographically, Europe is anything west of the Ural mountains. Politically
(i.e., the EU), it is much less, though one day it may encompass more
countries than those situated, geographically, in Europe, e.g., Turkey
(only a small part of which is situated in Europe). Finally, culturally,
Europe can be anything ranging from the entire western world (any culture
whose origins can be traced back to the ancient Greek civilization), to
whatever (geographically) European countries went through the renaissance,
which includes most countries of the EU (but not Greece) and certain
east European countries. For this last classification, I guess Brussels
is a more appropriate center than Vilnius.
DON: (Re: Sarsaparilla)
Finding the name strange, I finally got around to looking it up, and
found that it is a root, the one used in making "root beer", a much more
aromatic soda than coke or pepsi. Is root beer related in any way to the
drink to which you referred? (I don't know about the rest of Europe, but
one of the things that makes you realize that you are not in a different
part of the world is the total lack of root beer, one of the few things
I miss from my stay in the US.)
KNUT:
> Actually this means that there could be almost 48hours difference in age
> between two people buying alcohol legally at the same place! That's
> something like 0,03%! Wow...
It can be an even bigger difference, if you're talking about *buying*
alcohol, as in countries like Greece, there is no restriction regarding
who can buy alcohol, and no restriction, other than common sense, on who
can drink it. I remember, back when I was five or six, that my parents
would send me to the store to buy beer. They'd even let me have a small
sip when I sat at the table!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"You are arrogant, you 're overbearing, and you think you know everything."
"But, I do know everything."
"That makes it even worse."
-----
M. Mitchell Marmel
Politically Incorrect Mickey Big Little Book
Message 275 -
2002-01-31 at 14:32:14
Fluks, H.W.
Languages/countries [OT]
Message 276 -
2002-01-31 at 14:50:51
Hans Kiesl:
me> the area of France next to the
me> German border was part of Germany until 1874
> Alsace had been French from 1648 until 1871, and [..]
I *knew* I had the dates all wrong. Sorry!
--Harry.
me> the area of France next to the
me> German border was part of Germany until 1874
> Alsace had been French from 1648 until 1871, and [..]
I *knew* I had the dates all wrong. Sorry!
--Harry.
Don Rosa
DCML digest #820
Message 277 -
2002-01-31 at 16:31:24
From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
>>>I wonder which date can be considered "right", and if a date is an
absolute
thing, or can be different locally. Time zones are different locally, for
instance.
Not only that, but there were different dates skipped in different
countries or groups of countries. Again, excuse me for not hunting down my
notes and giving a thorough report on this... but this isn't the place for
such details, and interested parties can seek the data elsewhere while
bored parties can be glad they can. But I made sure that my story involved
a certain thing happening (we should have long ago stopped getting so close
to spoiling the story) in Spain because that is a country where those dates
in question were skipped. If that certain thing had taken place in another
country, those dates would still have existed while it would have been
others which were skipped and my plot-twist would have been nullified, so I
just plain didn't let that little thing happen. America skipped the dates
very late, probably because we were so isolated from the rest of the
civilized world that, in the days when there was only sea travel, it didn't
much matter if we were on the exact same time-frame as Europe. And as I
said, Russia was last to skip the days, doing so well into the 20th
century.
>>>If Russia's official calendar says it's October, but other countries say
it's November, did the revolution happen in October or November?
The answer to this question can only be that if the revolution took place
on soil where it was deemed to be October, then historians have apparently
agreed to call it October even though it was November. This obviously also
applies to America's very distinct celebration of the day Columbus
discovered America as October 12 even though it was October 21. (I guess
the Julian calendar was deemed to be in effect in the America's as long as
Spain was in charge here.) We accept both the Julian and Gregorian
calendars as being valid even though one does not agree with t'other. He
*must*, otherwise the history books would be in a big mess. Who was it...
someone sent me an e-mail recently about how it is often mentioned by
literature scholars that Shakespeare and some other famous writer died on
the exact same day, even though they actually died over a week apart
regardless of the fact that they died on the same date. Huh?
My head hurts.
>>>I'm sure the pope didn't change the past when he decided to skip 10
days.
The pope can do anything. He's infallible. Hadn't you heard?
>>>This makes things even more complicated than conversion to the euro. I
just
realise that a remembrance day in my city of birth (Groningen), celebrates
August 28, 1672. Groningen converted to Gregorian calendar in about 1710.
So
what are we celebrating every year on August 28?
You are celebrating that Emperor Julian screwed up big time.
But... what's all this hafta to do with Mickey the Mouse?
From: "jlbovet" <jlbovet at hotmail.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Subject: Scrooge's drink and food
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:46:52 +0100
>>>In the french "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut", the fine brandy is
transated
by "cognac".
Ah. Naturally they would. Good.
>>>He drinks Chicha in this story, but it seems that he doesn't like this
very
much...
It's not that he doesn't "like" it. That's one element in the story that I
had to change or risk the whole story possibly being considered unprintable
in a country where there are fans who wanted to see it. I originally had
$crooge describing chicha as what it is, a *very* potent fermented mixture
of corn mash. In fact, it's created by the Indian women chewing the corn up
and spitting it into the fermentation jugs -- I even originally *showed*
them doing that, another reason I thought better of leaving the full facts
in the tale. I finally described chicha as simply being very "strong" so
that you, for one, assumed it just tasted bad. But what actually happens to
T.R. and $crooge in the story when they drink the stuff is that they are
knocked out cold as carps by the alcohol content.
But I'm uncomfortable with that idea, too. Even though I do not consider
$crooge as someone who likes booze much, I also consider him, after his
years in the Yukon and other frontiers of the world, as someone who could
hold any amount of the strongest likker and never notice it. But that's
something that I guess will need to stay in my "private notes" category of
$crooge lore.
>>>- we also see the fridge of $crooge: !!!full!!! of freezed food like
pizzas,
Note that he hasn't anything from his garden in his fridge($crooge produces
lettuce - story by Barks- from his garden so why not other vegetables that
he will put in the fridge).
Well... I look upon that one panel of $crooge growing lettuce as a
story-device for that *one* story to introduce the fact that there are
gophers under the Bin. For example, there was one other single panel in one
other story where Barks needed to save panel-time in $crooge getting
somewhere, so he hops into the intercontinental rocket he keeps in a room
in the Bin and off he goes. We didn't include any sucha thing in our Bin
blueprints (though readers are still free to imagine for themselves that it
exists on one of the floors I don't show). But I don't see $crooge as a
gardener... I *know* from annual personal experience how much time that
takes, and that to grow vegetables just for your *own* private consumption
is actually more expensive than buying them, not even to mention the work
and time! Growing your own vegetables is a hobby, not a way to save $.
All that frozen food in $crooge's icebox (and did you note it was a 1910
style ice box?) was a clue to tell astute readers that $crooge eats nothing
but frozen TV dinners, too cheap to eat out or hire a cook, too lonely to
have someone to cook for him. I see him as leading a very poor life just as
Donald once told him. But, bah, kid talk, no man is poor who can do what he
*likes* to do once in a while.......
>>>As I read this story, one questions about the blueprint:
* Why an elevator? Sometimes we see $crooge using stairs, but I don't
remember seeing an elevator in the money bin.
They had elevators in 1902, so why *not* an elevator? He certainly would
not waste so much time going up and down 10+ stories of staircases, and
they would need an elevator to lift precious metals and gems up to the
storage vaults. But notice that the employees are not allowed in the
private elevator, and neither are the mailmen who must lug huge bags of
mail up and down the stairs from the whatever-it-was floor -- I refer you
to the small room on that floor with beds named "mailman recovery ward"...
at least it was in our original version.
>>>I wonder which date can be considered "right", and if a date is an
absolute
thing, or can be different locally. Time zones are different locally, for
instance.
Not only that, but there were different dates skipped in different
countries or groups of countries. Again, excuse me for not hunting down my
notes and giving a thorough report on this... but this isn't the place for
such details, and interested parties can seek the data elsewhere while
bored parties can be glad they can. But I made sure that my story involved
a certain thing happening (we should have long ago stopped getting so close
to spoiling the story) in Spain because that is a country where those dates
in question were skipped. If that certain thing had taken place in another
country, those dates would still have existed while it would have been
others which were skipped and my plot-twist would have been nullified, so I
just plain didn't let that little thing happen. America skipped the dates
very late, probably because we were so isolated from the rest of the
civilized world that, in the days when there was only sea travel, it didn't
much matter if we were on the exact same time-frame as Europe. And as I
said, Russia was last to skip the days, doing so well into the 20th
century.
>>>If Russia's official calendar says it's October, but other countries say
it's November, did the revolution happen in October or November?
The answer to this question can only be that if the revolution took place
on soil where it was deemed to be October, then historians have apparently
agreed to call it October even though it was November. This obviously also
applies to America's very distinct celebration of the day Columbus
discovered America as October 12 even though it was October 21. (I guess
the Julian calendar was deemed to be in effect in the America's as long as
Spain was in charge here.) We accept both the Julian and Gregorian
calendars as being valid even though one does not agree with t'other. He
*must*, otherwise the history books would be in a big mess. Who was it...
someone sent me an e-mail recently about how it is often mentioned by
literature scholars that Shakespeare and some other famous writer died on
the exact same day, even though they actually died over a week apart
regardless of the fact that they died on the same date. Huh?
My head hurts.
>>>I'm sure the pope didn't change the past when he decided to skip 10
days.
The pope can do anything. He's infallible. Hadn't you heard?
>>>This makes things even more complicated than conversion to the euro. I
just
realise that a remembrance day in my city of birth (Groningen), celebrates
August 28, 1672. Groningen converted to Gregorian calendar in about 1710.
So
what are we celebrating every year on August 28?
You are celebrating that Emperor Julian screwed up big time.
But... what's all this hafta to do with Mickey the Mouse?
From: "jlbovet" <jlbovet at hotmail.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Subject: Scrooge's drink and food
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 17:46:52 +0100
>>>In the french "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut", the fine brandy is
transated
by "cognac".
Ah. Naturally they would. Good.
>>>He drinks Chicha in this story, but it seems that he doesn't like this
very
much...
It's not that he doesn't "like" it. That's one element in the story that I
had to change or risk the whole story possibly being considered unprintable
in a country where there are fans who wanted to see it. I originally had
$crooge describing chicha as what it is, a *very* potent fermented mixture
of corn mash. In fact, it's created by the Indian women chewing the corn up
and spitting it into the fermentation jugs -- I even originally *showed*
them doing that, another reason I thought better of leaving the full facts
in the tale. I finally described chicha as simply being very "strong" so
that you, for one, assumed it just tasted bad. But what actually happens to
T.R. and $crooge in the story when they drink the stuff is that they are
knocked out cold as carps by the alcohol content.
But I'm uncomfortable with that idea, too. Even though I do not consider
$crooge as someone who likes booze much, I also consider him, after his
years in the Yukon and other frontiers of the world, as someone who could
hold any amount of the strongest likker and never notice it. But that's
something that I guess will need to stay in my "private notes" category of
$crooge lore.
>>>- we also see the fridge of $crooge: !!!full!!! of freezed food like
pizzas,
Note that he hasn't anything from his garden in his fridge($crooge produces
lettuce - story by Barks- from his garden so why not other vegetables that
he will put in the fridge).
Well... I look upon that one panel of $crooge growing lettuce as a
story-device for that *one* story to introduce the fact that there are
gophers under the Bin. For example, there was one other single panel in one
other story where Barks needed to save panel-time in $crooge getting
somewhere, so he hops into the intercontinental rocket he keeps in a room
in the Bin and off he goes. We didn't include any sucha thing in our Bin
blueprints (though readers are still free to imagine for themselves that it
exists on one of the floors I don't show). But I don't see $crooge as a
gardener... I *know* from annual personal experience how much time that
takes, and that to grow vegetables just for your *own* private consumption
is actually more expensive than buying them, not even to mention the work
and time! Growing your own vegetables is a hobby, not a way to save $.
All that frozen food in $crooge's icebox (and did you note it was a 1910
style ice box?) was a clue to tell astute readers that $crooge eats nothing
but frozen TV dinners, too cheap to eat out or hire a cook, too lonely to
have someone to cook for him. I see him as leading a very poor life just as
Donald once told him. But, bah, kid talk, no man is poor who can do what he
*likes* to do once in a while.......
>>>As I read this story, one questions about the blueprint:
* Why an elevator? Sometimes we see $crooge using stairs, but I don't
remember seeing an elevator in the money bin.
They had elevators in 1902, so why *not* an elevator? He certainly would
not waste so much time going up and down 10+ stories of staircases, and
they would need an elevator to lift precious metals and gems up to the
storage vaults. But notice that the employees are not allowed in the
private elevator, and neither are the mailmen who must lug huge bags of
mail up and down the stairs from the whatever-it-was floor -- I refer you
to the small room on that floor with beds named "mailman recovery ward"...
at least it was in our original version.
Don Rosa
Again to Rob Klein
Message 278 -
2002-01-31 at 16:48:21
To Rob Klein:
I can't reply to your e-mail -- your server keeps rejecting my messages.
Here's another one I again tried to send:
-------------------------------------------
> IF you don't have a copy of the original
> message you read, can you direct me to the Newsgroup forum from which you
read
> the original posting? I tried to reach it through "Newsgroups:
> rec.arts.comics. misc" and couldn't reach it.
That's the only name it has, that should call it up instantly when you plug
that into a newsgroup search engine. I don't know why it's not working for
you, and I also don't expect you'll receive this message when I try to send
it to you... but I'll try it again..............
I can't reply to your e-mail -- your server keeps rejecting my messages.
Here's another one I again tried to send:
-------------------------------------------
> IF you don't have a copy of the original
> message you read, can you direct me to the Newsgroup forum from which you
read
> the original posting? I tried to reach it through "Newsgroups:
> rec.arts.comics. misc" and couldn't reach it.
That's the only name it has, that should call it up instantly when you plug
that into a newsgroup search engine. I don't know why it's not working for
you, and I also don't expect you'll receive this message when I try to send
it to you... but I'll try it again..............
Rob Klein
Singapore-Bob Hughes
Message 279 -
2002-01-31 at 17:23:40
I did not leave the brackets,-so the address may be faulty. I have not had my
3rd attempt to mail to him returned, - so the address may also be correct. We
shall hope that he replies to at least one of us. I also hope the three comics
are not just Indian issues, - but Singaporian issues published FOR Singapore,
by Egmont Imagination India.
Again, I will make a request (plea) to our membership: that anyone who knows
anyone in Singapore, or has an extra copy of a Singapore issue contact me. I
am willing to trade old Dutch, US (Gladstone series 1)and/or other comics, plus
draw a new original Disney drawing in trade for it (so as to provide Arthur de
Wolf's "Disney Comics Around The World" Library and Website with a Singapore
issue).
Thanks, Rob Klein
---------------------------------------------
This message was sent using Endymion MailMan.
http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/
3rd attempt to mail to him returned, - so the address may also be correct. We
shall hope that he replies to at least one of us. I also hope the three comics
are not just Indian issues, - but Singaporian issues published FOR Singapore,
by Egmont Imagination India.
Again, I will make a request (plea) to our membership: that anyone who knows
anyone in Singapore, or has an extra copy of a Singapore issue contact me. I
am willing to trade old Dutch, US (Gladstone series 1)and/or other comics, plus
draw a new original Disney drawing in trade for it (so as to provide Arthur de
Wolf's "Disney Comics Around The World" Library and Website with a Singapore
issue).
Thanks, Rob Klein
---------------------------------------------
This message was sent using Endymion MailMan.
http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/
Petri Kanninen
South African Disney comics
Message 280 -
2002-01-31 at 17:37:36
HARRY:
>Last week I saw a South-African comic. It was from the mid-1990s, and it
>looked like a direct reprint of "Disney Adventures", a USA comic that is
>still in print today (?).
>Maybe South Africa has other kinds of Disney comics too?
I recently bought some 50 issues of "South African" Disney comics from the
late 70s and early 80s. Why the "s? They're actually imported from
England. The name of the magazine is Mickey Mouse and it is 16 pages. The
format is quite hideous for stories. The magazine is bigger than usual
comic books and has layout of 5 rows per page. It has many continuation
stories, especially serialisations of Disney's films with living actors
(one is called The Spaceman and King Arthur:-). It has a letter column,
and sometimes pages for jokes, problems and other fun stuff. Nearly every
letter is from England (I've seen one from Finland!) and it's cover price
both in British and South African currency, only the South African price
is printed a lot smaller than the British one.
It's funny that they distributed it to South Africa. I thought that
apartheid and boycotts were in fashion at that time. Or did the boycotts
come later?
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
>Last week I saw a South-African comic. It was from the mid-1990s, and it
>looked like a direct reprint of "Disney Adventures", a USA comic that is
>still in print today (?).
>Maybe South Africa has other kinds of Disney comics too?
I recently bought some 50 issues of "South African" Disney comics from the
late 70s and early 80s. Why the "s? They're actually imported from
England. The name of the magazine is Mickey Mouse and it is 16 pages. The
format is quite hideous for stories. The magazine is bigger than usual
comic books and has layout of 5 rows per page. It has many continuation
stories, especially serialisations of Disney's films with living actors
(one is called The Spaceman and King Arthur:-). It has a letter column,
and sometimes pages for jokes, problems and other fun stuff. Nearly every
letter is from England (I've seen one from Finland!) and it's cover price
both in British and South African currency, only the South African price
is printed a lot smaller than the British one.
It's funny that they distributed it to South Africa. I thought that
apartheid and boycotts were in fashion at that time. Or did the boycotts
come later?
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
Don Rosa
DCML digest #821
Message 281 -
2002-01-31 at 18:01:00
Okay, okay, I should have *known* that people have NO SENSE OF HUMOR
WHATSOEVER when it comes to religion. I've already received a testy message
from a livid anti-Catholic saying that the pope is going straight to hell.
Anyone who thought I was serious when I said the pope was infallible, raise
your hands. Or hand.
WHATSOEVER when it comes to religion. I've already received a testy message
from a livid anti-Catholic saying that the pope is going straight to hell.
Anyone who thought I was serious when I said the pope was infallible, raise
your hands. Or hand.
Alex Schaaf
AW: DCML digest #821
Message 282 -
2002-01-31 at 18:22:33
> Okay, okay, I should have *known* that people have NO SENSE OF HUMOR
> WHATSOEVER when it comes to religion.
Aaah, too bad.
I was hoping for a story:
Like a spoof of The Godfather III, where Scrooge meets with the Pope and
discusses real estate busines..... ;-))
Could Scrooge make him an offer he can't refuse?
Alex
> WHATSOEVER when it comes to religion.
Aaah, too bad.
I was hoping for a story:
Like a spoof of The Godfather III, where Scrooge meets with the Pope and
discusses real estate busines..... ;-))
Could Scrooge make him an offer he can't refuse?
Alex
Fluks, H.W.
More off-topic stuff
Message 283 -
2002-01-31 at 21:43:14
Don Rosa:
>>I'm sure the pope didn't change the past when he decided to skip 10
>> days.
>
> The pope can do anything. He's infallible. Hadn't you heard?
Ah, but that was decided in the 19th or early 20th century. Does that mean
all previous popes were infallible too?
(Here we're back again to the same kind of question... - no, no need to
answer that. 8-)
> But... what's all this hafta to do with Mickey the Mouse?
Er.. maybe the connection is that Disney is infallible too?
> Growing your own vegetables is a hobby, not a way to save $.
Well, in my youth (30 years ago...) my parents, and lots of other people in
our village, grew their own food in the garden. And one important reason was
that it was much cheaper than buying food in the super market.
But that was 30 years ago (WWII and the Dutch "hunger winter" were still
fresh in memory), and times have changed.
(Then again, you were probably talking about 50 years ago..)
Maybe growing food is cheaper on former-sea-bottom clay (like in Holland),
than it is on former-desert-land sand (like in Calisota).
> They had elevators in 1902, so why *not* an elevator? He
> certainly would not waste so much time going up and down
This is a typical case where both things can be argumented: "Scrooge does
not have X because it's too expensive" versus "Scrooge *does* have X because
it saves him a lot of time and/or money". In these cases, X can be an
elevator, a car, an airplane, things like that. And we actually see such
opposite situations in lots of stories.
(Maybe I'm mainly talking about non-Barks stories here, I don't know.)
--Harry.
>>I'm sure the pope didn't change the past when he decided to skip 10
>> days.
>
> The pope can do anything. He's infallible. Hadn't you heard?
Ah, but that was decided in the 19th or early 20th century. Does that mean
all previous popes were infallible too?
(Here we're back again to the same kind of question... - no, no need to
answer that. 8-)
> But... what's all this hafta to do with Mickey the Mouse?
Er.. maybe the connection is that Disney is infallible too?
> Growing your own vegetables is a hobby, not a way to save $.
Well, in my youth (30 years ago...) my parents, and lots of other people in
our village, grew their own food in the garden. And one important reason was
that it was much cheaper than buying food in the super market.
But that was 30 years ago (WWII and the Dutch "hunger winter" were still
fresh in memory), and times have changed.
(Then again, you were probably talking about 50 years ago..)
Maybe growing food is cheaper on former-sea-bottom clay (like in Holland),
than it is on former-desert-land sand (like in Calisota).
> They had elevators in 1902, so why *not* an elevator? He
> certainly would not waste so much time going up and down
This is a typical case where both things can be argumented: "Scrooge does
not have X because it's too expensive" versus "Scrooge *does* have X because
it saves him a lot of time and/or money". In these cases, X can be an
elevator, a car, an airplane, things like that. And we actually see such
opposite situations in lots of stories.
(Maybe I'm mainly talking about non-Barks stories here, I don't know.)
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Ten years!
Message 284 -
2002-01-31 at 21:51:55
Fernando Ventura:
> > (How time flies. This year we'll celebrate the 10th
> > anniversary of the DCML mailing list!)
>
> UOOOOUUU! Ten years!!! Ya, we need to do some celebration!
I have a few ideas for celebrations. Now I'll also need some time to work
them out...
> To me, this list is the most incredible thing that I discovered in the
> Internet, togheter with the Inducks database...!
Thanks for these kind words!
I myself have been a DCML member since the beginning, and my life would have
been totally different in the past 10 years, if DCML hadn't existed.
> So, in what month we'll be 10 years old? :)
The first DCML e-mail was dated August 3, 1992.
(The very first word in that e-mail was "Quack!")
--Harry.
> > (How time flies. This year we'll celebrate the 10th
> > anniversary of the DCML mailing list!)
>
> UOOOOUUU! Ten years!!! Ya, we need to do some celebration!
I have a few ideas for celebrations. Now I'll also need some time to work
them out...
> To me, this list is the most incredible thing that I discovered in the
> Internet, togheter with the Inducks database...!
Thanks for these kind words!
I myself have been a DCML member since the beginning, and my life would have
been totally different in the past 10 years, if DCML hadn't existed.
> So, in what month we'll be 10 years old? :)
The first DCML e-mail was dated August 3, 1992.
(The very first word in that e-mail was "Quack!")
--Harry.
Olaf Solstrand
Gort, Klattu birada nikto. Squa tront!
Message 285 -
2002-01-31 at 22:27:43
>Gort, Klattu birada nikto. Squa tront!
Does these words have a meaning that the part of the list which don't
understand ... (finnish?) should know? What on earth does it mean?
Olaf
www.andebyonline.com
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Does these words have a meaning that the part of the list which don't
understand ... (finnish?) should know? What on earth does it mean?
Olaf
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