From: Mark Wright <nicodemuslegend at cp.fuller.edu>
>>>Don Rosa wrote:
<Gort, Klattu birada nikto. Squa tront!>
>>>Do we get brownie points for recognizing the reference to "The Day the
Earth Stood Still"?
No, that only pertains to the first sentence. You must also recognize what
"squa tront!" and "spa fon!" are references to. No partial brownie point
credit is given for an incomplete answer. In other words, no tan points.
Good lord! (Choke!)
Author
Topic: 200201
(286 messages)
Don Rosa
DCML digest, Vol 1 #819 - 12 msgs
Message 256 -
2002-01-30 at 15:35:22
Fluks, H.W.
Date shifts [quite OT]
Message 257 -
2002-01-30 at 17:18:21
Don Rosa wrote:
> But the fact is quite true that all of the dates that our
> history books
> give for events that took place before the 16th to 20th centuries
> (depending on what country the event occurred in since not
> all countries
> skipped dates at the same time) are inaccurate for up to
> several weeks. The
> October Revolution in Russia (last country to update their calendar)
> actually took place in November!
I wonder which date can be considered "right", and if a date is an absolute
thing, or can be different locally. Time zones are different locally, for
instance.
If Russia's official calendar says it's October, but other countries say
it's November, did the revolution happen in October or November?
I'm sure the pope didn't change the past when he decided to skip 10 days.
But what about the protestants and orthodox? Did they re-define the calendar
since 14-something? Or did they just refer to past dates like they used to
do? (Which is the date of independence of the USA, according to a Russian?)
This makes things even more complicated than conversion to the euro. I just
realise that a remembrance day in my city of birth (Groningen), celebrates
August 28, 1672. Groningen converted to Gregorian calendar in about 1710. So
what are we celebrating every year on August 28? Hm...
--Harry.
> But the fact is quite true that all of the dates that our
> history books
> give for events that took place before the 16th to 20th centuries
> (depending on what country the event occurred in since not
> all countries
> skipped dates at the same time) are inaccurate for up to
> several weeks. The
> October Revolution in Russia (last country to update their calendar)
> actually took place in November!
I wonder which date can be considered "right", and if a date is an absolute
thing, or can be different locally. Time zones are different locally, for
instance.
If Russia's official calendar says it's October, but other countries say
it's November, did the revolution happen in October or November?
I'm sure the pope didn't change the past when he decided to skip 10 days.
But what about the protestants and orthodox? Did they re-define the calendar
since 14-something? Or did they just refer to past dates like they used to
do? (Which is the date of independence of the USA, according to a Russian?)
This makes things even more complicated than conversion to the euro. I just
realise that a remembrance day in my city of birth (Groningen), celebrates
August 28, 1672. Groningen converted to Gregorian calendar in about 1710. So
what are we celebrating every year on August 28? Hm...
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Gulien (H-stories)
Message 258 -
2002-01-30 at 17:22:05
Simo Malinen:
> And just mentioning there's also one very good new Dutch artist not
> mentioned here in DCML at all: Sander Gulien.
> [..] I think Gulien's carefully made artwork IS in balance.
> What you think?:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/gearlost/tmp/h92159_4.jpg
Sander is still improving, and the example you show is quite good. But in
the average, I think his art style is too unstable. There are lots of weird
"slips of the pen". But Sander is still young, so who knows. (He started
making Duck drawings when he was 14 or so!)
--Harry.
> And just mentioning there's also one very good new Dutch artist not
> mentioned here in DCML at all: Sander Gulien.
> [..] I think Gulien's carefully made artwork IS in balance.
> What you think?:
>
> http://www.geocities.com/gearlost/tmp/h92159_4.jpg
Sander is still improving, and the example you show is quite good. But in
the average, I think his art style is too unstable. There are lots of weird
"slips of the pen". But Sander is still young, so who knows. (He started
making Duck drawings when he was 14 or so!)
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Sources of Foreign Comics for US Readers
Message 259 -
2002-01-30 at 17:26:54
Linwood Kemp:
> 2. Are there any mail order and/or on-line distributors, US
> or foreign,
> from which one might purchase either, a.) foreign Disney
> subscriptions,
> or b.) anthologies or collections of recent Disney stories?
I think you can subscribe to the Dutch weekly from any country in the world.
But I don't know the details. I'm sure it costs more than here in Holland.
The current weekly has an interesting price list:
Advisory price Benelux: EUR 1.27
France, Greece, Italy, Austria, Portugal, Spain: EUR 2.48
I don't think you can order back issues from the Dutch publisher.
> 3. Where can I find the subscription addresses for the various Disney
> publishers around the world? Has anyone collected them in one place
> on-line?
Arthur de Wolf has a website about this: http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/ - but
I think some information there is out of date.
--Harry.
> 2. Are there any mail order and/or on-line distributors, US
> or foreign,
> from which one might purchase either, a.) foreign Disney
> subscriptions,
> or b.) anthologies or collections of recent Disney stories?
I think you can subscribe to the Dutch weekly from any country in the world.
But I don't know the details. I'm sure it costs more than here in Holland.
The current weekly has an interesting price list:
Advisory price Benelux: EUR 1.27
France, Greece, Italy, Austria, Portugal, Spain: EUR 2.48
I don't think you can order back issues from the Dutch publisher.
> 3. Where can I find the subscription addresses for the various Disney
> publishers around the world? Has anyone collected them in one place
> on-line?
Arthur de Wolf has a website about this: http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/ - but
I think some information there is out of date.
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Celebration story (Grand Donald Duck Theft)
Message 260 -
2002-01-30 at 17:34:37
Timo, Olivier, others:
> Yesterday I read the leading DD story in last week's
> Journal de Mickey by a Dutch artist.
> In that story, Donald wants to be a fireman; to hire him, the
> chief wantshim to prove he has
> experience. Donald then looks for the first DD comic book (I
> presume it's the first Akku Ankka or
> equivalent), which reprinted Barks' fireman story (the first
> one). This comic book is worth a
> fortune and several speculators want it too.
This must be the story celebrating 2500 issues of Dutch DD weekly (in
DD2000-36)! This story has, for some strange reason, 2 story codes: one for
each part. Even though the 2 parts were printed together in 1 magazine...
The codes are H 20107 (10 pages) and H 20108 (5 pages).
Written by Evert Geradts, drawn by Mau Heymans.
The story shows caricatures of the two oldest comic shop owners in Holland:
Kees Sokkenstopper (Kees Kousemaker) and Gans Malta (Hans Matla). The
caricatures are not very flattering (Matla is for instance only concerned
about getting as much money as possible), but I heard that the shop owners
were very honoured by the story...
How are these people translated in the various countries?
--Harry.
"For 10 guilders you can have a brief look at my copy of the comic!"
> Yesterday I read the leading DD story in last week's
> Journal de Mickey by a Dutch artist.
> In that story, Donald wants to be a fireman; to hire him, the
> chief wantshim to prove he has
> experience. Donald then looks for the first DD comic book (I
> presume it's the first Akku Ankka or
> equivalent), which reprinted Barks' fireman story (the first
> one). This comic book is worth a
> fortune and several speculators want it too.
This must be the story celebrating 2500 issues of Dutch DD weekly (in
DD2000-36)! This story has, for some strange reason, 2 story codes: one for
each part. Even though the 2 parts were printed together in 1 magazine...
The codes are H 20107 (10 pages) and H 20108 (5 pages).
Written by Evert Geradts, drawn by Mau Heymans.
The story shows caricatures of the two oldest comic shop owners in Holland:
Kees Sokkenstopper (Kees Kousemaker) and Gans Malta (Hans Matla). The
caricatures are not very flattering (Matla is for instance only concerned
about getting as much money as possible), but I heard that the shop owners
were very honoured by the story...
How are these people translated in the various countries?
--Harry.
"For 10 guilders you can have a brief look at my copy of the comic!"
Fluks, H.W.
English-language comics
Message 261 -
2002-01-30 at 17:39:31
Don quoted Bob Hughes:
> English language Disney comics do exist!
Last week I saw a South-African comic. It was from the mid-1990s, and it
looked like a direct reprint of "Disney Adventures", a USA comic that is
still in print today (?).
Maybe South Africa has other kinds of Disney comics too?
--Harry.
> English language Disney comics do exist!
Last week I saw a South-African comic. It was from the mid-1990s, and it
looked like a direct reprint of "Disney Adventures", a USA comic that is
still in print today (?).
Maybe South Africa has other kinds of Disney comics too?
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Languages [OT]
Message 262 -
2002-01-30 at 17:44:57
Theresa Wiegert wrote on January 16:
> I remember a situation on a gas station near the border
> between France and
> Germany. A big German man [..]
> was yelling in German to the poor lady behind
> the desk in the
> station, who apparently didn't understand a word, and in
> French tried to calm him down
Interesting. Especially since the area of France next to the German border
was part of Germany until 1874 (and again from 1939-1945). Most people there
should still speak a German dialect, as well as the French they learn at
school.
So maybe the German man had another, more hidden, reason to be angry...
--Harry.
> I remember a situation on a gas station near the border
> between France and
> Germany. A big German man [..]
> was yelling in German to the poor lady behind
> the desk in the
> station, who apparently didn't understand a word, and in
> French tried to calm him down
Interesting. Especially since the area of France next to the German border
was part of Germany until 1874 (and again from 1939-1945). Most people there
should still speak a German dialect, as well as the French they learn at
school.
So maybe the German man had another, more hidden, reason to be angry...
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Europe
Message 263 -
2002-01-30 at 17:48:38
Kriton Kyrimis wrote:
> My guess is that Scandinavia,
> like Greece, not being close to the core European countries, is both
> European and something else, the same way that Greece is both
> a European and a Balkan country.
You imply that the Balkan is not part of Europe. This sounds just as strange
to me as Scandinavia not being part of Europe.
To me, Europe is still more than the European Union. Last week I read
somewhere that the geographical centre of Europe is near Vilnius in
Lithuania...
--Harry.
> My guess is that Scandinavia,
> like Greece, not being close to the core European countries, is both
> European and something else, the same way that Greece is both
> a European and a Balkan country.
You imply that the Balkan is not part of Europe. This sounds just as strange
to me as Scandinavia not being part of Europe.
To me, Europe is still more than the European Union. Last week I read
somewhere that the geographical centre of Europe is near Vilnius in
Lithuania...
--Harry.
M. Mitchell Marmel
Squa Tront!
Message 264 -
2002-01-30 at 18:04:26
At 8:35 AM -0500 1/30/02, Don Rosa wrote:
>No, that only pertains to the first sentence. You must also recognize what
>"squa tront!" and "spa fon!" are references to.
It's E.C. for me, see?
>No partial brownie point
>credit is given for an incomplete answer. In other words, no tan points.
>Good lord! (Choke!)
"Dummkopf! You're knocking over some air men!" -Flesh Garden, MAD,
no. 11 (May 1954)
ObDCML: Mad, no. 19 (Jan. 1955), "Mickey Rodent!" (Dep't: Animation)
-MMM-
>No, that only pertains to the first sentence. You must also recognize what
>"squa tront!" and "spa fon!" are references to.
It's E.C. for me, see?
>No partial brownie point
>credit is given for an incomplete answer. In other words, no tan points.
>Good lord! (Choke!)
"Dummkopf! You're knocking over some air men!" -Flesh Garden, MAD,
no. 11 (May 1954)
ObDCML: Mad, no. 19 (Jan. 1955), "Mickey Rodent!" (Dep't: Animation)
-MMM-
Jlbovet
Scrooge's drink and food
Message 265 -
2002-01-30 at 18:46:52
Hi,
I wrote:
>> As we know $crooge prefer nutmeg tea but smurfs ("Schtroumpf" comics by
the belgian Peyo) eat sarsaparilla.
Don Rosa:
>And did you think that the *only* fluid that $crooge will drink is nutmeg
tea? Of course not. I'm sure he drinks *many* things, especially after his
decades of world travel. In "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" I have him
drinking fine brandy with Teddy Roosevelt. And that's good to mention just
on the remote (?!) chance that story is ever printed in America -- that
brandy will surely turn into sarsaparilla in any edition published here.
>
I just said that $crooge PREFERS nutmeg tea, i.e. that's one of his favorite
beverage.
In 1-page gags by Barks, $crooge also drinks coffee (and pay it half-price).
In the french "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut", the fine brandy is transated
by "cognac".
He drinks Chicha in this story, but it seems that he doesn't like this very
much...
Other reference to the food & drink of $crooge:
In "Money bin vs BB", one Beagle Boy in the kitchen of $crooge see:
- soup
- nutmeg tea
- stale biscuits-crackers
- we also see the fridge of $crooge: !!!full!!! of freezed food like pizzas,
... Bombonium is there.
Note that he hasn't anything from his garden in his fridge($crooge produces
lettuce - story by Barks- from his garden so why not other vegetables that
he will put in the fridge).
- prunes that 176-xxx will eat...
As I read this story, one questions about the blueprint:
* Why an elevator? Sometimes we see $crooge using stairs, but I don't
remember seeing an elevator in the money bin.
Thanks to Don Rosa for his previous answer,
Jeannot Lapin - who doesn't drink alcohol and is looking for references to
non-Di$ney comics in Don Rosa story.
I wrote:
>> As we know $crooge prefer nutmeg tea but smurfs ("Schtroumpf" comics by
the belgian Peyo) eat sarsaparilla.
Don Rosa:
>And did you think that the *only* fluid that $crooge will drink is nutmeg
tea? Of course not. I'm sure he drinks *many* things, especially after his
decades of world travel. In "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" I have him
drinking fine brandy with Teddy Roosevelt. And that's good to mention just
on the remote (?!) chance that story is ever printed in America -- that
brandy will surely turn into sarsaparilla in any edition published here.
>
I just said that $crooge PREFERS nutmeg tea, i.e. that's one of his favorite
beverage.
In 1-page gags by Barks, $crooge also drinks coffee (and pay it half-price).
In the french "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut", the fine brandy is transated
by "cognac".
He drinks Chicha in this story, but it seems that he doesn't like this very
much...
Other reference to the food & drink of $crooge:
In "Money bin vs BB", one Beagle Boy in the kitchen of $crooge see:
- soup
- nutmeg tea
- stale biscuits-crackers
- we also see the fridge of $crooge: !!!full!!! of freezed food like pizzas,
... Bombonium is there.
Note that he hasn't anything from his garden in his fridge($crooge produces
lettuce - story by Barks- from his garden so why not other vegetables that
he will put in the fridge).
- prunes that 176-xxx will eat...
As I read this story, one questions about the blueprint:
* Why an elevator? Sometimes we see $crooge using stairs, but I don't
remember seeing an elevator in the money bin.
Thanks to Don Rosa for his previous answer,
Jeannot Lapin - who doesn't drink alcohol and is looking for references to
non-Di$ney comics in Don Rosa story.
Fluks, H.W.
Sleuth
Message 266 -
2002-01-30 at 19:19:00
"Wolfsong":
> Does anyone know of a good site with info on the character Sleuth?
I don't know of any *good* sites 8-), but we from I.N.D.U.C.K.S. have some
information about the Sleuth.
See
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/sleuth.html
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/universe.php/0/Sleuth
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/character.php/0/Sleuth
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/character.php/0/Sleuth/1
The last URL is an index of all (93) stories with the Sleuth, plus links to
all known reprints of those stories.
--Harry.
> Does anyone know of a good site with info on the character Sleuth?
I don't know of any *good* sites 8-), but we from I.N.D.U.C.K.S. have some
information about the Sleuth.
See
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/chars/sleuth.html
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/universe.php/0/Sleuth
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/character.php/0/Sleuth
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/character.php/0/Sleuth/1
The last URL is an index of all (93) stories with the Sleuth, plus links to
all known reprints of those stories.
--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
Ferioli
Message 267 -
2002-01-30 at 19:50:59
Cesar Ferioli wrote:
> By the way, thank you for your (*almost* always) interesting
> mails on the
> list. Keep it on! They're useful for the cartoonists in our work,
Hello, and welcome mr. Ferioli!
A lot of us have been admiring your work since at least 1993.
Ole Reichstein Nielsen was the first to mention your name here on DCML. He
concluded one of his letters with "Ferioli." as if it were some kind of
greeting (like 'Cheerio"). Then, in a letter from 27 October 1993, Ole
writes:
> Since no-one dared to ask:
> 'Ferioli' is not Danish for 'Have A Nice Day.'
> It is the name of a (no, *the*) most promising (Italian?) Mouse artist,
> appearing regularily in Scandinavian issues lately. Issue 44 starts a
> two-parter about gorillas. Special guest star is Sigourney Weaver.
> If US publishers lack decent Mouse material, they could defininitely
> do a lot worse. Check out my Danish index for some story codes.
Many things happened since then (9 years ago!).
In the mean time, we know that you are not Italian, and that you have proven
to be one of the best Mouse artists indeed.
And in the mean time, there is no US publisher anymore.
And in the mean time, Ole's "Danish index" has become a part of our
international I.N.D.U.C.K.S. database.
(How time flies. This year we'll celebrate the 10th anniversary of the DCML
mailing list!)
--Harry.
> By the way, thank you for your (*almost* always) interesting
> mails on the
> list. Keep it on! They're useful for the cartoonists in our work,
Hello, and welcome mr. Ferioli!
A lot of us have been admiring your work since at least 1993.
Ole Reichstein Nielsen was the first to mention your name here on DCML. He
concluded one of his letters with "Ferioli." as if it were some kind of
greeting (like 'Cheerio"). Then, in a letter from 27 October 1993, Ole
writes:
> Since no-one dared to ask:
> 'Ferioli' is not Danish for 'Have A Nice Day.'
> It is the name of a (no, *the*) most promising (Italian?) Mouse artist,
> appearing regularily in Scandinavian issues lately. Issue 44 starts a
> two-parter about gorillas. Special guest star is Sigourney Weaver.
> If US publishers lack decent Mouse material, they could defininitely
> do a lot worse. Check out my Danish index for some story codes.
Many things happened since then (9 years ago!).
In the mean time, we know that you are not Italian, and that you have proven
to be one of the best Mouse artists indeed.
And in the mean time, there is no US publisher anymore.
And in the mean time, Ole's "Danish index" has become a part of our
international I.N.D.U.C.K.S. database.
(How time flies. This year we'll celebrate the 10th anniversary of the DCML
mailing list!)
--Harry.
Fernando Ventura
Ten years!
Message 268 -
2002-01-31 at 01:25:17
Harry:
>(How time flies. This year we'll celebrate the 10th anniversary of the DCML
>mailing list!)
UOOOOUUU! Ten years!!! Ya, we need to do some celebration!
To me, this list is the most incredible thing that I discovered in the
Internet, togheter with the Inducks database...! I'm really proud to be part
of it, and to have so many friends from here!
Arthur Faria Jr, Arthur de Wolf, Francois, Harry, Rob Klein, Al?pio, Anders,
Elon, Fabio, Janne Heino, Paolo Castagno, Francesco, Luca, Olaf, Paulo Melo,
Paulo Ferreira, Rich, Sigvald, Don Rosa, Didier (the only one I know not
just on the Net)...and many, many others!
It's incredible to have such a discussion place like this, with so few,
er...fights, and so much friendiship! :)
I think I'm hear since the end of 1999, so it's...three years!
So, in what month we'll be 10 years old? :)
Fernando!
>(How time flies. This year we'll celebrate the 10th anniversary of the DCML
>mailing list!)
UOOOOUUU! Ten years!!! Ya, we need to do some celebration!
To me, this list is the most incredible thing that I discovered in the
Internet, togheter with the Inducks database...! I'm really proud to be part
of it, and to have so many friends from here!
Arthur Faria Jr, Arthur de Wolf, Francois, Harry, Rob Klein, Al?pio, Anders,
Elon, Fabio, Janne Heino, Paolo Castagno, Francesco, Luca, Olaf, Paulo Melo,
Paulo Ferreira, Rich, Sigvald, Don Rosa, Didier (the only one I know not
just on the Net)...and many, many others!
It's incredible to have such a discussion place like this, with so few,
er...fights, and so much friendiship! :)
I think I'm hear since the end of 1999, so it's...three years!
So, in what month we'll be 10 years old? :)
Fernando!
Luca Boschi
R: Ten years!
Message 269 -
2002-01-31 at 03:07:49
----------
>Da: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>
>A: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Oggetto: Ten years!
>Data: Gio, 31 gen 2002 0:25
>
> Harry:
>
>>(How time flies. This year we'll celebrate the 10th anniversary of the DCML
>>mailing list!)
>
> UOOOOUUU! Ten years!!! Ya, we need to do some celebration!
>
> To me, this list is the most incredible thing that I discovered in the
> Internet, togheter with the Inducks database...! I'm really proud to be part
> of it, and to have so many friends from here!
> Arthur Faria Jr, Arthur de Wolf, Francois, Harry, Rob Klein, Al?pio, Anders,
> Elon, Fabio, Janne Heino, Paolo Castagno, Francesco, Luca, Olaf, Paulo Melo,
> Paulo Ferreira, Rich, Sigvald, Don Rosa, Didier (the only one I know not
> just on the Net)...and many, many others!
>
> It's incredible to have such a discussion place like this, with so few,
> er...fights, and so much friendiship! :)
> I think I'm hear since the end of 1999, so it's...three years!
>
> So, in what month we'll be 10 years old? :)
>
> Fernando!
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>Da: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>
>A: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Oggetto: Ten years!
>Data: Gio, 31 gen 2002 0:25
>
> Harry:
>
>>(How time flies. This year we'll celebrate the 10th anniversary of the DCML
>>mailing list!)
>
> UOOOOUUU! Ten years!!! Ya, we need to do some celebration!
>
> To me, this list is the most incredible thing that I discovered in the
> Internet, togheter with the Inducks database...! I'm really proud to be part
> of it, and to have so many friends from here!
> Arthur Faria Jr, Arthur de Wolf, Francois, Harry, Rob Klein, Al?pio, Anders,
> Elon, Fabio, Janne Heino, Paolo Castagno, Francesco, Luca, Olaf, Paulo Melo,
> Paulo Ferreira, Rich, Sigvald, Don Rosa, Didier (the only one I know not
> just on the Net)...and many, many others!
>
> It's incredible to have such a discussion place like this, with so few,
> er...fights, and so much friendiship! :)
> I think I'm hear since the end of 1999, so it's...three years!
>
> So, in what month we'll be 10 years old? :)
>
> Fernando!
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Shad Z.
DCML digest #818
Message 270 -
2002-01-31 at 03:15:19
-----Original Message-----
From: Paulo Barrez <maurepas0002 at yahoo.com>
> > > As we know $crooge prefer nutmeg tea but smurfs
> > > ("Schtroumpf" comics by the
> > > belgian Peyo) eat sarsaparilla. That's a reference
> > > to smurf.
> >
> > Sorry to disappoint you, but no, it's not. I have
> > never read a Smurf comic (or seen a cartoon)...
> > I have no idea what they drink or do. But
> > sarsaparilla is simply what people drank at American
> soda-fountains and saloons 100+ years ago.
>
> I think most of those who know Peyo's Sumrfs (and
> there are quite a lot of them here in Europe) will
> take it for a reference to the Smurfs. "Sarsaparilla"
> is one of the best known element of the Smurfs'
> universe. This is almost a synonym of the series.
> That's an unintentional reference, I would say.
In the American English version of the Smurfs, I don't
remember 'sarsaparilla' being a signiture drink. The
translators/adaptors must have changed it (probably to
'smurfberry juice' or something smurfy like that).
--
Shad Z. ^Q^
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From: Paulo Barrez <maurepas0002 at yahoo.com>
> > > As we know $crooge prefer nutmeg tea but smurfs
> > > ("Schtroumpf" comics by the
> > > belgian Peyo) eat sarsaparilla. That's a reference
> > > to smurf.
> >
> > Sorry to disappoint you, but no, it's not. I have
> > never read a Smurf comic (or seen a cartoon)...
> > I have no idea what they drink or do. But
> > sarsaparilla is simply what people drank at American
> soda-fountains and saloons 100+ years ago.
>
> I think most of those who know Peyo's Sumrfs (and
> there are quite a lot of them here in Europe) will
> take it for a reference to the Smurfs. "Sarsaparilla"
> is one of the best known element of the Smurfs'
> universe. This is almost a synonym of the series.
> That's an unintentional reference, I would say.
In the American English version of the Smurfs, I don't
remember 'sarsaparilla' being a signiture drink. The
translators/adaptors must have changed it (probably to
'smurfberry juice' or something smurfy like that).
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