Fabricio:
> Does anyone saw any story drawn by artist Carlos Mota already
published (beyond Brazil)?
According to Inducks at least one of his stories has been
published in Italy:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/c1/story.php/0/B+960143/
Author
Topic: 200202
(273 messages)
Ari Seppi
Stories by artist Carlos Mota
Message 106 -
2002-02-12 at 10:36:32
Fernando Ventura
Stories by artist Carlos Mota
Message 107 -
2002-02-12 at 15:22:21
Fabricio:
>Does anyone saw any story drawn by artist Carlos Mota already published
(beyond Brazil)?
At least, I know two of then published in Portugal:
"O Salto"
B 000134
Hiper Disney 3-2001
(this one is not listed on the Inducks as draw by Carlos Mota...can you
correct it, Arthur?)
"Onde Est? a Energia"
B 0000047-PD 2210/5
Hiper Disney 5-2001
Any idea about no B-coded histories.
And I don't think "Roubo Celular", B 960143 are drew by Mota, anyway, I need
to check it...
Fernando!
>Does anyone saw any story drawn by artist Carlos Mota already published
(beyond Brazil)?
At least, I know two of then published in Portugal:
"O Salto"
B 000134
Hiper Disney 3-2001
(this one is not listed on the Inducks as draw by Carlos Mota...can you
correct it, Arthur?)
"Onde Est? a Energia"
B 0000047-PD 2210/5
Hiper Disney 5-2001
Any idea about no B-coded histories.
And I don't think "Roubo Celular", B 960143 are drew by Mota, anyway, I need
to check it...
Fernando!
Don Rosa
DCML digest #834
Message 108 -
2002-02-12 at 15:59:44
From: dennis books <comicchar_shop at yahoo.com>
>>>I believe the book states that the first old master was MADONNA DUCK
and done in 1941. Actually it was BLUE DUCK done in late 1939. The text
says there where 16 completed by 1945. Actually there are 17 considered to
be the old masters Several others of lesser fame are known to exist by this
writer. ANY information, especially photographic copies would be
appreciated.
I've seen these reprinted in books or magazines from time to time, but I
can't tell you exactly where just now without an extensive
search-and-rescue operation in my archives. However, the *first* place they
were ever publicly printed was in LIFE magazine during WWII, I've always
known that, and I recently bought a copy of LIFE for April 16, 1945, off of
eBay which the seller described as having something inside which clearly
sounded like the issue in question. I have yet to receive it, it's "in the
mail" coming slowly from Canada, so I don't know if it has all 16 (17?)
paintings, or if I'll need to watch for additional LIFE issues. But remind
me, and I'll let you know what I see. The magazine seems overdue, so I
should have it any time.
While we're on the subject of famous mainstream magazines that printed
famous Disney art, I also have a full set of GOOD HOUSEKEEPING from 1933
through 1947 during which years, in every single monthly issue, the Disney
studio furnished a special full page of new color illustrations telling the
story of some current animated short or feature. I sought these for the
many Donald Duck pages, but when I found the set, since I'm an archivist at
heart, I could not resist preserving the entire run. This was also an
Internet purchase (though not eBay).
Love dat eBay! You folks have no idea how many hundreds of old Donald Duck
toys and books and old 1940's/50's comic books I've bought off there in the
last 4 years (non-Disney comic books... I already had a full set of all the
American Disney comics since about 25 years ago). Yum yum.
>>>I believe the book states that the first old master was MADONNA DUCK
and done in 1941. Actually it was BLUE DUCK done in late 1939. The text
says there where 16 completed by 1945. Actually there are 17 considered to
be the old masters Several others of lesser fame are known to exist by this
writer. ANY information, especially photographic copies would be
appreciated.
I've seen these reprinted in books or magazines from time to time, but I
can't tell you exactly where just now without an extensive
search-and-rescue operation in my archives. However, the *first* place they
were ever publicly printed was in LIFE magazine during WWII, I've always
known that, and I recently bought a copy of LIFE for April 16, 1945, off of
eBay which the seller described as having something inside which clearly
sounded like the issue in question. I have yet to receive it, it's "in the
mail" coming slowly from Canada, so I don't know if it has all 16 (17?)
paintings, or if I'll need to watch for additional LIFE issues. But remind
me, and I'll let you know what I see. The magazine seems overdue, so I
should have it any time.
While we're on the subject of famous mainstream magazines that printed
famous Disney art, I also have a full set of GOOD HOUSEKEEPING from 1933
through 1947 during which years, in every single monthly issue, the Disney
studio furnished a special full page of new color illustrations telling the
story of some current animated short or feature. I sought these for the
many Donald Duck pages, but when I found the set, since I'm an archivist at
heart, I could not resist preserving the entire run. This was also an
Internet purchase (though not eBay).
Love dat eBay! You folks have no idea how many hundreds of old Donald Duck
toys and books and old 1940's/50's comic books I've bought off there in the
last 4 years (non-Disney comic books... I already had a full set of all the
American Disney comics since about 25 years ago). Yum yum.
Fluks, H.W.
Finnish Trekkies and Green Friends (Old times)
Message 109 -
2002-02-12 at 17:38:55
Mike Pohjola:
> I have no idea when I actually joined the list,
> though. Harry?
> I do remember my first mail was a question to Don about some story. I
> almost remember which one it was... The sequel to Back to the
> Klondike.
"Last Sled to Dawson".
Here's an excerpt from your first e-mail.
<<
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:47:42 +0200
From: mikep at freenet.hut.fi (Mike Pohjola)
Subject: Replies
DON: (have to say something to you, so my friend will turn green ;)
Has there ever been a Barks (or somebody else) story, about Scrooge
sticking that rifle in the ice? See, this's been troubling me for years
now and I still am not sure. I seem to remember a story published in
'60s at Finland, where he did that. But that's just about all I do
remember. It's tearing me apart!
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
>>
and Don's reply:
<<
MIKE P.:
Yes, I swiped that bit about $crooge losing a sled into a
glacial rift in the Yukon, marking the spot with a rifle, then returning
years later just as the glacier chunk breaks off -- and used it as the
centerpiece of "The Last Sled to Dawson". That original Tony Strobl
story was in DONALD DUCK (not UNCLE $CROOGE) #50 or thereabouts. It had
always been my favorite non-Barks Duck story... perhaps the only
non-Barks Duck story I liked... due to the scene where the iceberg
breaks off the glacier and we see the sled buried deep in the ice where
it had been sealed for over 50 years.
After all these years, I can't recall precisely what I was
thinking when I swiped that bit, though I made no secret of it at the
time. But I think I was intrigued by the idea that, since I was doing a
story which would automatically become Disney property, I realized I
could swipe any idea from any Disney comic, TV show, movie, book, or
anything that there had ever been, and it was perfectly acceptable.
>>
--Harry.
> I have no idea when I actually joined the list,
> though. Harry?
> I do remember my first mail was a question to Don about some story. I
> almost remember which one it was... The sequel to Back to the
> Klondike.
"Last Sled to Dawson".
Here's an excerpt from your first e-mail.
<<
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 1994 16:47:42 +0200
From: mikep at freenet.hut.fi (Mike Pohjola)
Subject: Replies
DON: (have to say something to you, so my friend will turn green ;)
Has there ever been a Barks (or somebody else) story, about Scrooge
sticking that rifle in the ice? See, this's been troubling me for years
now and I still am not sure. I seem to remember a story published in
'60s at Finland, where he did that. But that's just about all I do
remember. It's tearing me apart!
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
>>
and Don's reply:
<<
MIKE P.:
Yes, I swiped that bit about $crooge losing a sled into a
glacial rift in the Yukon, marking the spot with a rifle, then returning
years later just as the glacier chunk breaks off -- and used it as the
centerpiece of "The Last Sled to Dawson". That original Tony Strobl
story was in DONALD DUCK (not UNCLE $CROOGE) #50 or thereabouts. It had
always been my favorite non-Barks Duck story... perhaps the only
non-Barks Duck story I liked... due to the scene where the iceberg
breaks off the glacier and we see the sled buried deep in the ice where
it had been sealed for over 50 years.
After all these years, I can't recall precisely what I was
thinking when I swiped that bit, though I made no secret of it at the
time. But I think I was intrigued by the idea that, since I was doing a
story which would automatically become Disney property, I realized I
could swipe any idea from any Disney comic, TV show, movie, book, or
anything that there had ever been, and it was perfectly acceptable.
>>
--Harry.
Fernando Ventura
Cavazzano's Super Picsou covers
Message 110 -
2002-02-12 at 19:51:56
Hello!
Someone knows who's the colorist from Super Picsou Ge?nt's covers? I know
that Cavazzano is the main drawer from it! He ink it himself?
Incredible covers, but I like more the Cavazzano's 70's style!
Fernando!
Someone knows who's the colorist from Super Picsou Ge?nt's covers? I know
that Cavazzano is the main drawer from it! He ink it himself?
Incredible covers, but I like more the Cavazzano's 70's style!
Fernando!
Olivier
Cavazzano's Super Picsou covers
Message 111 -
2002-02-12 at 21:17:50
Hi!
Fernando:
>> Someone knows who's the colorist from Super Picsou Ge?nt's covers?
>>I know that Cavazzano is the main drawer from it! He ink it himself?
>> Incredible covers, but I like more the Cavazzano's 70's style!
Cyrille Leriche does a great job of coloring them-- I love the slighting & shades.
I like Cavazzano's style (though a bit less that of these covers), but do tend to slightly prefer
his older style, if only because that's the one I grew up with.
Olivier
Fernando:
>> Someone knows who's the colorist from Super Picsou Ge?nt's covers?
>>I know that Cavazzano is the main drawer from it! He ink it himself?
>> Incredible covers, but I like more the Cavazzano's 70's style!
Cyrille Leriche does a great job of coloring them-- I love the slighting & shades.
I like Cavazzano's style (though a bit less that of these covers), but do tend to slightly prefer
his older style, if only because that's the one I grew up with.
Olivier
Fluks, H.W.
Website DD50 updated
Message 112 -
2002-02-13 at 21:32:10
Read all kinds of stuff about the Dutch weekly (and sometimes about Disney
comics in general) on my "DD50" website:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xindexeng.html
New items, added today (see
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xoverv1.html and
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xoverv2.html):
- A dream comes true in Italy
- What's in a name
- The worst-drawn Ducks of all times?
- Hooray! The 1000th issue!
- Karel Blaft
- A jump into the deep
- A background gag
- Wanted: Ballpoint-Eddy (very dangerous)
- Ludwig Von Drake? Who's that?
- Kees Sokkenstopper and Gans Malta
- Thanks to Fluks!
So far, 5 people have sent in their favourite year of Dutch Disney comics
(see http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xoverv3.html). It's still not
too late to send in your text, either in English or in Dutch!
--Harry.
comics in general) on my "DD50" website:
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xindexeng.html
New items, added today (see
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xoverv1.html and
http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xoverv2.html):
- A dream comes true in Italy
- What's in a name
- The worst-drawn Ducks of all times?
- Hooray! The 1000th issue!
- Karel Blaft
- A jump into the deep
- A background gag
- Wanted: Ballpoint-Eddy (very dangerous)
- Ludwig Von Drake? Who's that?
- Kees Sokkenstopper and Gans Malta
- Thanks to Fluks!
So far, 5 people have sent in their favourite year of Dutch Disney comics
(see http://members.tripod.lycos.nl/bolderbast/xoverv3.html). It's still not
too late to send in your text, either in English or in Dutch!
--Harry.
Søren Haagerup
Arabic Disney Comics
Message 113 -
2002-02-13 at 21:58:17
Hi!
I found this site: http://www.angelfire.com/comics/disney/, with Arabic Disney Comics. But it isn't quite easy to find the storycodes. Will you help, filling out the unknown?
1. S 80139
2. S 82183
3. S 84046
4. S 82160
5. W WDC 377-05
6. D 96015
7. S 72223
8. S 72241
9. ?
10. S 72394
11. S 71373 (?)
12. S 70091 (?)
13. ?
14. S 72230 (?)
15. ?
16. S 71374
17. ?
18. ?
19. W WDC 204-01
20. W US 25-05
Look at 19 and 20! It's CB, but it's cuttet up, and placed in another way. It's a 2-tier instead of a 4-tier...
Best wishes,
S?ren
I found this site: http://www.angelfire.com/comics/disney/, with Arabic Disney Comics. But it isn't quite easy to find the storycodes. Will you help, filling out the unknown?
1. S 80139
2. S 82183
3. S 84046
4. S 82160
5. W WDC 377-05
6. D 96015
7. S 72223
8. S 72241
9. ?
10. S 72394
11. S 71373 (?)
12. S 70091 (?)
13. ?
14. S 72230 (?)
15. ?
16. S 71374
17. ?
18. ?
19. W WDC 204-01
20. W US 25-05
Look at 19 and 20! It's CB, but it's cuttet up, and placed in another way. It's a 2-tier instead of a 4-tier...
Best wishes,
S?ren
Timo Ronkainen
Sequel to Snow White?!
Message 114 -
2002-02-13 at 23:30:22
Hi all!
This is slightly off-topic, but I bumbed into this in
rec.arts.disney.animation:
""
>You've all probably heard that the sequel to Sw has been green lighted.
>Those people have no shame.
>Please read (and sign) the petition at the folowing link:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/sw2/
>--
>Jakijajah
"""""""""
It's pretty distasteful to do these sequels.. 285 people have signed
petition so far. I'm thinking to add mine too. Though I doubt it'll help
much..
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
¨¨ Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
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.................................
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Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
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This is slightly off-topic, but I bumbed into this in
rec.arts.disney.animation:
""
>You've all probably heard that the sequel to Sw has been green lighted.
>Those people have no shame.
>Please read (and sign) the petition at the folowing link:
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/sw2/
>--
>Jakijajah
"""""""""
It's pretty distasteful to do these sequels.. 285 people have signed
petition so far. I'm thinking to add mine too. Though I doubt it'll help
much..
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
¨¨ Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://welcome.to/ankistit
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
_________________________________________________________________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Fluks, H.W.
Sequel to Snow White
Message 115 -
2002-02-14 at 10:16:41
Timo wrote:
> It's pretty distasteful to do these sequels.. 285 people have signed
> petition so far. I'm thinking to add mine too.
Interesting. Should we make a petition too, to stop Don Rosa making sequels
to Barks stories? Or is that different? If so, what's the difference?
--Harry.
(only asking questions to have an interesting discussion)
> It's pretty distasteful to do these sequels.. 285 people have signed
> petition so far. I'm thinking to add mine too.
Interesting. Should we make a petition too, to stop Don Rosa making sequels
to Barks stories? Or is that different? If so, what's the difference?
--Harry.
(only asking questions to have an interesting discussion)
Jussi Mantere
Sequel to Snow White
Message 116 -
2002-02-14 at 11:01:10
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002, Fluks, H.W. wrote:
> Interesting. Should we make a petition too, to stop Don Rosa making sequels
> to Barks stories? Or is that different? If so, what's the difference?
It's different because Don does it better ;-)
-jussi
--
. jussi mantere
. http://www.iki.fi/obs/
. learned more from a three minute record
.. than we ever learned in school
> Interesting. Should we make a petition too, to stop Don Rosa making sequels
> to Barks stories? Or is that different? If so, what's the difference?
It's different because Don does it better ;-)
-jussi
--
. jussi mantere
. http://www.iki.fi/obs/
. learned more from a three minute record
.. than we ever learned in school
Michael Schartau
Sequel to Snow White
Message 117 -
2002-02-14 at 11:13:45
Of corse it is different.
Some thing you can't do, and some you can.
NO: Jaws 3, Grease 2, Scream
YES: Bond, Jones, Rosa
But is is a matter of opinion. Some people dont accept Moore as Bond. And how would you reakt on a new book about the Ring?
/ Michael X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: RE: Sequel to Snow White
> Timo wrote:
>
> > It's pretty distasteful to do these sequels.. 285 people have signed
> > petition so far. I'm thinking to add mine too.
>
> Interesting. Should we make a petition too, to stop Don Rosa making sequels
> to Barks stories? Or is that different? If so, what's the difference?
>
> --Harry.
> (only asking questions to have an interesting discussion)
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Some thing you can't do, and some you can.
NO: Jaws 3, Grease 2, Scream
YES: Bond, Jones, Rosa
But is is a matter of opinion. Some people dont accept Moore as Bond. And how would you reakt on a new book about the Ring?
/ Michael X
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:16 AM
Subject: RE: Sequel to Snow White
> Timo wrote:
>
> > It's pretty distasteful to do these sequels.. 285 people have signed
> > petition so far. I'm thinking to add mine too.
>
> Interesting. Should we make a petition too, to stop Don Rosa making sequels
> to Barks stories? Or is that different? If so, what's the difference?
>
> --Harry.
> (only asking questions to have an interesting discussion)
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Fluks, H.W.
Sequel to Snow White
Message 118 -
2002-02-14 at 11:28:29
Timo wrote to me:
> I just hit the reply button, without checking the
> address. Could you forward it to DCML?
So here is his message (but I skipped some of his looong signature).
--Harry.
I wrote:
>It's pretty distasteful to do these sequels..
Harry:
> >Interesting. Should we make a petition too, to stop Don Rosa making
>sequels
>to Barks stories? Or is that different? If so, what's the difference?
Well, I knew somebody would ask this :-)
Yep, I think it's different. Duck comics are made to have some kind of
sequels ad infinitum. It's the nature of most comics. It's the serial form.
We get sequels to never ending Duck-saga every week.
Snow White was made to be "one shot"-story. Although we have already had
"sequels" to it in comics form. But in movie form it doesn't need more. IMO.
Timo
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
http://welcome.to/ankistit
> I just hit the reply button, without checking the
> address. Could you forward it to DCML?
So here is his message (but I skipped some of his looong signature).
--Harry.
I wrote:
>It's pretty distasteful to do these sequels..
Harry:
> >Interesting. Should we make a petition too, to stop Don Rosa making
>sequels
>to Barks stories? Or is that different? If so, what's the difference?
Well, I knew somebody would ask this :-)
Yep, I think it's different. Duck comics are made to have some kind of
sequels ad infinitum. It's the nature of most comics. It's the serial form.
We get sequels to never ending Duck-saga every week.
Snow White was made to be "one shot"-story. Although we have already had
"sequels" to it in comics form. But in movie form it doesn't need more. IMO.
Timo
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
http://welcome.to/ankistit
Francesco Spreafico
Sequel to Snow White
Message 119 -
2002-02-14 at 11:28:55
From: Michael Schartau <michael.schartau at swipnet.se>
> NO: Jaws 3, Grease 2, Scream
> YES: Bond, Jones, Rosa
>
> But is is a matter of opinion. Some people dont accept Moore as Bond. And
> how would you reakt on a new book about the Ring?
What Ring? Tolkien's? I guess there already are sequels for that.
Still, I think that one important point is who makes the sequel... Indiana
Jones' sequels are ok because they're made by the same people
(Lucas/Spielberg/Williams), Jaws' sequels are not ok because they're made by
different people... and so on.
This is a general rule, but is not to be applied strictly to disney comics
too, since there have always been from the very beginning many people
working on them, and I find it right to make references to other people's
stories, like Don Rosa does with Barks'.
About Snow White, I'm opposed too, because, differently from disney comics,
the Snow White story hasn't been touched since 1937. Now, if they considered
some Scarpa's SW stories as the plot for a new movie I'd be definitely for
it, but since I know they don't even know such wonderful stories exist, I
don't trust them the least: they'd almost certainly be writing a crappy
story, and since the 1937 is a true masterpiece, it would be a pity.
--
Francesco
> NO: Jaws 3, Grease 2, Scream
> YES: Bond, Jones, Rosa
>
> But is is a matter of opinion. Some people dont accept Moore as Bond. And
> how would you reakt on a new book about the Ring?
What Ring? Tolkien's? I guess there already are sequels for that.
Still, I think that one important point is who makes the sequel... Indiana
Jones' sequels are ok because they're made by the same people
(Lucas/Spielberg/Williams), Jaws' sequels are not ok because they're made by
different people... and so on.
This is a general rule, but is not to be applied strictly to disney comics
too, since there have always been from the very beginning many people
working on them, and I find it right to make references to other people's
stories, like Don Rosa does with Barks'.
About Snow White, I'm opposed too, because, differently from disney comics,
the Snow White story hasn't been touched since 1937. Now, if they considered
some Scarpa's SW stories as the plot for a new movie I'd be definitely for
it, but since I know they don't even know such wonderful stories exist, I
don't trust them the least: they'd almost certainly be writing a crappy
story, and since the 1937 is a true masterpiece, it would be a pity.
--
Francesco
Kriton Kyrimis
Sequel to Snow White?!
Message 120 -
2002-02-14 at 13:45:01
I must be missing something. We 've been reading Snow White sequels in
comics form for decades. What's so different about doing yet another one,
but this time on video?
MICHAEL:
> And how would you reakt on a new book about the Ring?
You mean like Tolkien's "The Silmarillion", or the books published by
his son, based on his father's notes?
Speaking of Snow White sequels, there was this radio show in Greece
back in the late seventies, which was heavy social and political
satire masquerading as a show for children. Two of the characters in
the show were Snow White and her prince. The prince was an arrogant
good-for-nothing, whose supposed nobility ("prince" was actually how
his wife had once called him affectionately!) had gone to his head,
while Snow White was forced to stay at home and do all the housework.
This made for some very interesting situations.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"What will it be? Electrodes, solitary confinement, psychoactives?"
"Coffee. Or tea, if you prefer."
-----
comics form for decades. What's so different about doing yet another one,
but this time on video?
MICHAEL:
> And how would you reakt on a new book about the Ring?
You mean like Tolkien's "The Silmarillion", or the books published by
his son, based on his father's notes?
Speaking of Snow White sequels, there was this radio show in Greece
back in the late seventies, which was heavy social and political
satire masquerading as a show for children. Two of the characters in
the show were Snow White and her prince. The prince was an arrogant
good-for-nothing, whose supposed nobility ("prince" was actually how
his wife had once called him affectionately!) had gone to his head,
while Snow White was forced to stay at home and do all the housework.
This made for some very interesting situations.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"What will it be? Electrodes, solitary confinement, psychoactives?"
"Coffee. Or tea, if you prefer."
-----