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SHAD:

> I know you are joking, but I just wanted to point out that
> 'dwarfs' and 'dwarves' are just two different ways of
> pluralizing the word 'dwarf' in English. Both are
> considered 'proper English,' although I think most scholars
> prefer 'dwarves' over 'dwarfs.'

Looking up the word at www.m-w.com, it would appear that, indeed,
"dwarves" is an accepted form of the plural for "dwarf". However,
I remember reading, and a bit of internet search seems to confirm
this, that in Tolkien's time "dwarfs" had been the only correct
spelling, and that Tolkien made up the plural "dwarves" to set
his dwarves apart from other kinds of dwarfs. To quote from
http://www.flex.net/~layton2/encyc/dwarves.html:

> From whence came Tolkien's original idea for the names of dwarves in The
> Hobbit ? The plural "dwarves" instead of dwarfs (which is preferred by
> a number of critics and is correct philologically) is instead used by
> Tolkien because it went better with "elves". He wished later, according
> to his letters, that he had used the historical plural of "dwarrows".
> "Dwarves" went into general usage as many people, both readers and fellow
> writers, agreed with Tolkien's ear and logic.
>
> Reference: The Letters of JRR Tolkien Letter # 17 To Stanley Unwin, Chairman
> of Allen and Unwin, p. 23

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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>Maybe, but there is a HUGE amount of NON-white people in South Africa. I
>think less than 10% of the people in SA can be regarded caucasian.

When I was living in southern Africa, around a quarter of the population of
South Africa was cuacasian

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Fellow Quackeroos:

Another week of Greek Disney comics:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1857, February 15, 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.17 euro)
a) Mickey Mouse in "L' attacco del vendicatore", from "Topolino" #1083, 1976
(30 pages). Script: Jerry Siegel; Art: Franco Lostaffa
b) Gladstone Gander in "Il pentafolium sventurarum", from "Topolino" #2293,
1999 (22 pages). Script: Fabio Michelini; Art: Pier Paolo Rovero
c) The Beagle Boys in "Il recupero atletico" from "Topolino" #2332, 2000 (14
pages). Script: Giorgio Martignoni; Art: Fabiana Iacolucci
d) The Three Little Pigs in "The Fishing Contest", S-78164 (11 pages).
Script & Art: The Disney Studio

2) DONALD #51, February 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.76 euro)
a) Donald Duck in "L' ospitalita aliena", from "Topolino" #2249, 1999 (35
pages). Script: Carlo Panaro; Art: Alberto Lavoradori
b) Donald Duck in "The Space Shuttle", J-Z 157-2, 34 pages. Script: Carlo
Panaro; Art: Roberto Marini
c) Donald Duck in "L' incontro ravvicinato", from "Topolino" #2291, 1999 (20
pages). Script: Marco Bosco; Art: Luciano Gatto

'Til next time,

Archontis

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The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228

Rob wrote:
>I cannot remember the web address where it can be found, so I hope
>a DCML member with that information will provide it for us.
>
The address is http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/che_x1.htm
The address for the main page is
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/rare.htm
There is also the story Donald Duck's Atom Bomb which is drawn and written
by Barks and many other rare comics.

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The Danish translator Sonja Rindom made the word "Langtbortistan" (Far-away-stan), for not saying bad things about any countries...

But was it a CB-story it was used the first time? Or where is it used?

Best wishes,
S?ren Haagerup
Denmark

> Looking up the word at www.m-w.com, it would appear that, indeed,
> "dwarves" is an accepted form of the plural for "dwarf". However,
> I remember reading, and a bit of internet search seems to confirm
> this, that in Tolkien's time "dwarfs" had been the only correct
> spelling, and that Tolkien made up the plural "dwarves" to set
> his dwarves apart from other kinds of dwarfs.

In addition to writing books, Tolkien was a respected professor in philology.
I seem to remember, that when Tolkien's editor told him
that the right form should be "dwarfs", and referred to the dictionary,
Tolkien replied (something like):
"Well, I wrote that dictionary, and now I've changed my mind".
:-)

Oyvind J. Karstad

Hi,
I'm new here, and maybe newbies shouldn't be asking questions, but I just had to....

Me asking Mr.Rosa-->
 

I noticed in W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N., Scrooge telling Donald about if the nephews were sent to him instead. But he says "If my granddaughter".....
We all know Huey, Dewey and Louie's mother is Scrooges NIECE!
Now is it a: 1) mistake (which would really come to gigantic shock to me), 2) the seizure + salts made him groggy, 3) he forgot to take his memory pills......
And Donald seems not to notice the slip of the tongue....
Please, Please, I must know! Thank you in advance!
OchaGirl----
P.S. Thanks for making such great comics!
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This message appeared (at least to me) inside a jumble of computerese, so
before I reply, I'll need to sift it out of the rubble.

From: "Madame Jennifer Inantaz" <madame82 at hotmail.com>
>>>>I'm new here, and maybe newbies shouldn't be asking questions, but I
just had to....
I noticed in W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N., Scrooge telling Donald about
if the nephews were sent to him instead. But he says "If my
granddaughter".....
We all know Huey, Dewey and Louie's mother is Scrooges NIECE!
Now is it a: 1)mistake (which would really come to gigantic shock to
me), 2) the seizure + salts made him groggy, 3) he forgot to take his memory
pills

It was 4) an error appeared in the official typed-up script from Egmont that
no one ever spotted anywhere along the lines of proofreaders, editors,
translators or letterers. Yes, it should, of course, say "niece"! The sad
thing is that such errors occur in the "official" scripts sometimes, and I
tell Egmont that they need to fix the error so future uses of the story
around the world will not contain the same fubar... but Egmont's system is
such that they cannot correct scripts (they will not so they say they
"cannot") once they are filed away. So throughout eternity, whenever this
story is used anywhere on earth, $crooge will forever refer to his
"granddaughter".