P.S.
I always figured "Klaatu barado nictu" meant something like "Klaatu
is dead", and the robot was expected to respond in a pre-programmed
way. But I haven't seen the movie in years and years, so what do
I know?
By the way, a guy I knew many years ago was what we called "master
of the verbal typo". It was a joke in our group that if he'd been
the one to deliver the message, it would have come out as "Pluto
begorrah necktie" (to get back on topic) and that would've been it
for the world.
Quack, Don
http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Today in Toons: Every day's an anniversary
Author
Topic: 200202
(273 messages)
Don Markstein
Gort, Klattu birada nikto.
Message 16 -
2002-02-01 at 17:53:53
Fabio Blanco
DCML digest, Vol 1 #822 - 15 msgs
Message 17 -
2002-02-01 at 18:44:45
I don't know if the Pope is infallible or not. But I agree with you. Why discuss about the true religion? Why that topic would be part of a... discussion of ducks???? Maybe ducks of Duckburg???
And more important
Why a duck? ;)
Fabio Blanco
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
William Price wrote...
>Whether you agree with several hundred million Catholics or not, I don't think making fun of people's >religious beliefs should be part of a discussion of ducks.
And more important
Why a duck? ;)
Fabio Blanco
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
William Price wrote...
>Whether you agree with several hundred million Catholics or not, I don't think making fun of people's >religious beliefs should be part of a discussion of ducks.
Marco Barlotti
Another full PKNA story on-line in ENGLISH!
Message 18 -
2002-02-02 at 01:25:42
Did you enjoy the two PKNA stories that are on-line fully translated in
English?
Well, at the same address
http://pk.immaginario.net/index/traduzioni/index.htm
there's much more now!
For instance:
PKNA #0 in English, Norwegian, Danish
PKNA #13 in English (and soon in German)
PKNA #14 in English (this is NEW!)
All these comics come with full pictures, thanks to a staff of PK lovers.
Please don't forget to visit the home page too
http://pk.immaginario.net/index/index.htm
and send your feedback to Silverware, the chief-editor of the project! (I
am just a humble ambassador...): flfanti at tin.it
Have fun!
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex
English?
Well, at the same address
http://pk.immaginario.net/index/traduzioni/index.htm
there's much more now!
For instance:
PKNA #0 in English, Norwegian, Danish
PKNA #13 in English (and soon in German)
PKNA #14 in English (this is NEW!)
All these comics come with full pictures, thanks to a staff of PK lovers.
Please don't forget to visit the home page too
http://pk.immaginario.net/index/index.htm
and send your feedback to Silverware, the chief-editor of the project! (I
am just a humble ambassador...): flfanti at tin.it
Have fun!
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex
Fabio Blanco
Population report, off topic
Message 19 -
2002-02-02 at 10:11:14
> Dan Shane wrote: Still, just because Don made a little jibe at the most
> populous religion on
> the planet (and was apparently taken seriously, causing further "injury"),
I
> wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
>
> I reply:
>
> According to the last couple of world census reports, Roman Catholics come
in at
> 1,026,501, while Muslims number 1,164,622. And as far as I can tell,
there have
> been more Muslims than Catholics in the world for quite awhile. FYI.
And I say (with black and dubtious humor)...
But that can change: the president Bush are helping to equalizer the
numbers...
Fabio (dark jokingly)
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
> populous religion on
> the planet (and was apparently taken seriously, causing further "injury"),
I
> wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
>
> I reply:
>
> According to the last couple of world census reports, Roman Catholics come
in at
> 1,026,501, while Muslims number 1,164,622. And as far as I can tell,
there have
> been more Muslims than Catholics in the world for quite awhile. FYI.
And I say (with black and dubtious humor)...
But that can change: the president Bush are helping to equalizer the
numbers...
Fabio (dark jokingly)
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Don Rosa
DCML digest #824
Message 20 -
2002-02-02 at 15:31:41
> From: "Dan Shane" <danshane at bellsouth.net>
>I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
> Cruel humor has no place anywhere, but Don's bit of sarcasm has been used
> countless times in the past, and I don't think anyone has changed their
> faith just because they heard it before.
Oh, but apparently I constantly fill my messages with religious sarcasm, I
drip with nonsecular vicious humor, I yen to insult the devout, I klattu
birado nikto!
> From: Don Markstein <lists at toonopedia.com>
> a Recovering Catholic myself, I see nothing wrong with a little gentle
> ribbing like that.
I'm also a Catholic boy, for heaven's sake, I'M ITALIAN! May I please rib
myself, thankyouverymuch? But I considered the source of the complaint...
and ignored it.
Squa tront!
>I wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
> Cruel humor has no place anywhere, but Don's bit of sarcasm has been used
> countless times in the past, and I don't think anyone has changed their
> faith just because they heard it before.
Oh, but apparently I constantly fill my messages with religious sarcasm, I
drip with nonsecular vicious humor, I yen to insult the devout, I klattu
birado nikto!
> From: Don Markstein <lists at toonopedia.com>
> a Recovering Catholic myself, I see nothing wrong with a little gentle
> ribbing like that.
I'm also a Catholic boy, for heaven's sake, I'M ITALIAN! May I please rib
myself, thankyouverymuch? But I considered the source of the complaint...
and ignored it.
Squa tront!
Jgarvin
Population report, off topic
Message 21 -
2002-02-02 at 19:31:55
Dan Shane wrote: Still, just because Don made a little jibe at the most
populous religion on
the planet (and was apparently taken seriously, causing further "injury"), I
wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
I reply:
According to the last couple of world census reports, Roman Catholics come in at
1,026,501, while Muslims number 1,164,622. And as far as I can tell, there have
been more Muslims than Catholics in the world for quite awhile. FYI.
populous religion on
the planet (and was apparently taken seriously, causing further "injury"), I
wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
I reply:
According to the last couple of world census reports, Roman Catholics come in at
1,026,501, while Muslims number 1,164,622. And as far as I can tell, there have
been more Muslims than Catholics in the world for quite awhile. FYI.
Lunnan & Hjort
Half off-topic: Astrid Lindgren
Message 22 -
2002-02-03 at 01:42:43
Since the date looks special today (02-02-02 to some
of you, 2/2-02 to some, where I'd prefer 2/2/2 or 2-2-2,
in a futile attempt to avoid the imperialist ever-presence of
the machine- and computer-age caused unnecessary
"zero", as if we counted objects with 01, 02, 03, ...),
I feel I should utter something to the DCML.
And I choose to say: let's pause for a minute to salute
one of last century's greatest writers, who died last week
at age 94. I even refuse to define or label this as "fully off-topic",
for reasons I'll attempt to explain. The DCML policy, tradition
and polite (most of the time) anarchist culture does allow a
reasonable amount of off-topic-ness, where one strays by
association from genuinely Disney Comics- or Duck-related
issues on to Something Completely Different, and where one
perhaps manages to manouevre oneselves back after a little
time. The list has also tolerated various discussion of
"other literature" from time to time.
It is perhaps a fruitful exercise for any Disney Comics reader
to somehow define, by genre or by examples, "literature which
is not Ducks or Disney Comics, but which in main aspects
resembles such". Each of us would come up with a separate
list. But for me, as a fan of Disney Barks (and Strobl and Rosa)
Ducks in particular, it feels natural to include Astrid Lindgren
(1907--2002) on my personal list. This is not so much due to the
"both Barks and Lindgren wrote for children" argument, as I
seriously consider both of them writers for _all_ readers, of all ages.
It has to do with the form of their stories, their occasional
(and very effective) balancing of genres (realism vs pseudo-realism
vs fantasy vs humour), and, importantly, their literary quality.
I don't have to convince people on the DCML that the best
of Ducks is High Literature (such efforts would be needed
elsewhere), but perhaps many of you would object to the
assertion that AL stories also are equally High Literature.
I do believe they are. (And I am not alone, of course; there
were strong pressures over the last ten years or so trying to
push towards a Nobel Literature Prize for her.) In "Mio" and
"Ronja", possibly in "Karlson" and "The Lionheart Brothers",
she reaches himalayan heights.
Astrid Lindgren is dead. Long live Astrid Lindgren.
Nils Lid Hjort.
of you, 2/2-02 to some, where I'd prefer 2/2/2 or 2-2-2,
in a futile attempt to avoid the imperialist ever-presence of
the machine- and computer-age caused unnecessary
"zero", as if we counted objects with 01, 02, 03, ...),
I feel I should utter something to the DCML.
And I choose to say: let's pause for a minute to salute
one of last century's greatest writers, who died last week
at age 94. I even refuse to define or label this as "fully off-topic",
for reasons I'll attempt to explain. The DCML policy, tradition
and polite (most of the time) anarchist culture does allow a
reasonable amount of off-topic-ness, where one strays by
association from genuinely Disney Comics- or Duck-related
issues on to Something Completely Different, and where one
perhaps manages to manouevre oneselves back after a little
time. The list has also tolerated various discussion of
"other literature" from time to time.
It is perhaps a fruitful exercise for any Disney Comics reader
to somehow define, by genre or by examples, "literature which
is not Ducks or Disney Comics, but which in main aspects
resembles such". Each of us would come up with a separate
list. But for me, as a fan of Disney Barks (and Strobl and Rosa)
Ducks in particular, it feels natural to include Astrid Lindgren
(1907--2002) on my personal list. This is not so much due to the
"both Barks and Lindgren wrote for children" argument, as I
seriously consider both of them writers for _all_ readers, of all ages.
It has to do with the form of their stories, their occasional
(and very effective) balancing of genres (realism vs pseudo-realism
vs fantasy vs humour), and, importantly, their literary quality.
I don't have to convince people on the DCML that the best
of Ducks is High Literature (such efforts would be needed
elsewhere), but perhaps many of you would object to the
assertion that AL stories also are equally High Literature.
I do believe they are. (And I am not alone, of course; there
were strong pressures over the last ten years or so trying to
push towards a Nobel Literature Prize for her.) In "Mio" and
"Ronja", possibly in "Karlson" and "The Lionheart Brothers",
she reaches himalayan heights.
Astrid Lindgren is dead. Long live Astrid Lindgren.
Nils Lid Hjort.
Stefan Persson
Completely off-topic: Astrid Lindgren
Message 23 -
2002-02-03 at 02:15:00
>From: "Lunnan & Hjort" <brit.lunnan at chello.no>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: half off-topic: Astrid Lindgren
>Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:42:43 +0100
>
>Since the date looks special today (02-02-02 to some
>of you, 2/2-02 to some, where I'd prefer 2/2/2 or 2-2-2,
>in a futile attempt to avoid the imperialist ever-presence of
>the machine- and computer-age caused unnecessary
>"zero", as if we counted objects with 01, 02, 03, ...),
>I feel I should utter something to the DCML.
Actually, your mail was dated 2-2-3.
>Astrid Lindgren is dead. Long live Astrid Lindgren.
Indeed. I remember when I was but a few years old and my parents used to
read her books for me. Now she's gone, which is sad. She passed away on the
28th of January. I hope neither she herself nor her work will ever be
forgotten, and that it'll remain popular. I had hoped that she'd get the
Nobel price, but that never hapened...
Stefan
_________________________________________________________________
Chatta med v?nner online, prova MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.se
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: half off-topic: Astrid Lindgren
>Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 00:42:43 +0100
>
>Since the date looks special today (02-02-02 to some
>of you, 2/2-02 to some, where I'd prefer 2/2/2 or 2-2-2,
>in a futile attempt to avoid the imperialist ever-presence of
>the machine- and computer-age caused unnecessary
>"zero", as if we counted objects with 01, 02, 03, ...),
>I feel I should utter something to the DCML.
Actually, your mail was dated 2-2-3.
>Astrid Lindgren is dead. Long live Astrid Lindgren.
Indeed. I remember when I was but a few years old and my parents used to
read her books for me. Now she's gone, which is sad. She passed away on the
28th of January. I hope neither she herself nor her work will ever be
forgotten, and that it'll remain popular. I had hoped that she'd get the
Nobel price, but that never hapened...
Stefan
_________________________________________________________________
Chatta med v?nner online, prova MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.se
The Fenske's
Population report, off topic
Message 24 -
2002-02-03 at 03:08:38
At 09:31 AM 2/2/02 -0800, you wrote:
>Dan Shane wrote: Still, just because Don made a little jibe at the most
>populous religion on
>the planet (and was apparently taken seriously, causing further "injury"), I
>wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
>
>I reply:
>
>According to the last couple of world census reports, Roman Catholics come
in at
>1,026,501, while Muslims number 1,164,622. And as far as I can tell,
there have
>been more Muslims than Catholics in the world for quite awhile. FYI.
I'm sorry, but I can't believe there are only 1 million members of either
of these religions
in the world. Don't you mean 100 million, or even 1 billion??
Dave Fenske
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
>Dan Shane wrote: Still, just because Don made a little jibe at the most
>populous religion on
>the planet (and was apparently taken seriously, causing further "injury"), I
>wouldn't get my knickers in a twist.
>
>I reply:
>
>According to the last couple of world census reports, Roman Catholics come
in at
>1,026,501, while Muslims number 1,164,622. And as far as I can tell,
there have
>been more Muslims than Catholics in the world for quite awhile. FYI.
I'm sorry, but I can't believe there are only 1 million members of either
of these religions
in the world. Don't you mean 100 million, or even 1 billion??
Dave Fenske
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
Rich Bellacera
New Duck Family Tree
Message 25 -
2002-02-03 at 12:40:27
Hi all. I'm still having problems related to my ISP, but here is something
you might find interesting, especially Gilles. I found this interesting
book
recently released and available at my local bookstore called THE BIG
:LITTLE BOOK OF DISNEY by Monique Peterson.
While there's not a whole lot that is really new in it, there is a familial
link placing Daisy's (possible) brother Fred (?) as the parent of April,
May
& June. I'm not sure what the source of this claim is though.
Anyhow, here it is for what it's worth.
http://home.onemain.com/~xephyr/special/DuckFam.gif
I'm not sure how long it will be available for viewing as my ISP keeps
messing with my site as right now part of it is down and I am fighting
with them to bring it back up. *sigh* :-(
Rich Bellacera
P.S. When is the actual aniversary of the Mailing List? I know it's this
year, and I was there when it was first created... well that same year
anyhow,
so I'm wondering how many of us from the first year are still here?
you might find interesting, especially Gilles. I found this interesting
book
recently released and available at my local bookstore called THE BIG
:LITTLE BOOK OF DISNEY by Monique Peterson.
While there's not a whole lot that is really new in it, there is a familial
link placing Daisy's (possible) brother Fred (?) as the parent of April,
May
& June. I'm not sure what the source of this claim is though.
Anyhow, here it is for what it's worth.
http://home.onemain.com/~xephyr/special/DuckFam.gif
I'm not sure how long it will be available for viewing as my ISP keeps
messing with my site as right now part of it is down and I am fighting
with them to bring it back up. *sigh* :-(
Rich Bellacera
P.S. When is the actual aniversary of the Mailing List? I know it's this
year, and I was there when it was first created... well that same year
anyhow,
so I'm wondering how many of us from the first year are still here?
Dan Shane
Population report, off topic
Message 26 -
2002-02-03 at 15:37:11
JOHN GARVIN WROTE:
> According to the last couple of world census reports, Roman Catholics come
in at
> 1,026,501, while Muslims number 1,164,622. And as far as I can tell,
there have
> been more Muslims than Catholics in the world for quite awhile. FYI.
AND I REPLY:
You are quite correct, of course. I didn't think things through when I
typed that statement, and should have qualified it by saying that Caholics
are the most populous religion in Christendom or the western world.
Thanks for catching my error, John.
> According to the last couple of world census reports, Roman Catholics come
in at
> 1,026,501, while Muslims number 1,164,622. And as far as I can tell,
there have
> been more Muslims than Catholics in the world for quite awhile. FYI.
AND I REPLY:
You are quite correct, of course. I didn't think things through when I
typed that statement, and should have qualified it by saying that Caholics
are the most populous religion in Christendom or the western world.
Thanks for catching my error, John.
Don Rosa
DCML digest #825
Message 27 -
2002-02-03 at 15:54:07
From: "M.J. Prior" <M.J.Prior at let.rug.nl>
>>>>Anyone who has read some of Don Rosa's stories, may probably have
noticed a device which Don uses to make a skip ahead in time.
Erm, there was a point I wanted to make. Oh yes, it's a lovely story-device
and I sure like it, but I've seen it somewhere before. That is, in the
1985(?)
DC Comics series Watchmen, by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.
Well, maybe Don hasn't read Watchmen at all, or maybe he has, but didn't
pick up this device from it because he knew it already, for, as I then
realised, it's a movie device.
That's right. I did read and love WATCHMEN, but that's a movie storytelling
device. (A short answer to your long, thoughtful query.)
>>>And another question: the final scene in 'A Little Something Special',
with
Scrooge trying hard to prevent Grandpa Beagle from falling of the giant
Cornelius Coot statue, strongly resembles the final scene of some movie by
Alfred Hitchcock, I believe it was Saboteur (1942), which takes place on
top
of the Statue of Liberty. Err, I think I don't need to put the question
anymore.
You are PRECISELY RIGHT. That is the movie scene I was emulating. It's
perhaps my favorite Hitchcock movie.
>>>>Well, I liked that scene. Has the Coot statue ever before been drawn
with
so much detail and shading? Has it ever before been drawn so
'realistically'?
I drew it a lot and it figured into the plot (hey, that rhymes!) in the
story I just sent in, Gyro Gearloose's 50th anniversary story. The story
also celebrates the 50th anniversary of Barks' creation of Cornelius Coot
and a few other Barks classic ideas. And there was the 50th anniversary
story for the Beagle Boys and the Money Bin I recently did... the Barks
stories of 50 years back were in the most creative and entertaining span of
his career! My mind boggles at all the classic stories in those years!
>>>>>And yet another question to mr. Don Rosa:
Don, is there any particular reason why you didn't give Duckburg a pig
mayor, instead of your dogfaced-man-with-top-hat-and-little-moustache?
Because the mayor I recall the most from my youth was the one I drew, the
dog-face guy. I remember him best from the "Snow Princess" story. I used
him in my first mayoral story ("Fit to be Pied") and I definitely wanted to
use him in the important "A Little Something Special", especially because I
was using a pig-face in another villainous role there on the podium. But I
don't really want to draw the same mayor each time. Thanks for pointing
this out -- if I use a mayor again sometime, I'll elect a pig-face.
>>>You would think Grandpa Beagle preferred something stronger ;)
(Ah, but then, in 1952 he would have been over 110 years old,
Please don't say that out loud! I was well aware of what his age must be if
he were to be so much older than $crooge in Barks' 1880 riverboat flashback
story, and if it were the same character as the Grandpa in "The Money
Well", something Barks surely never bothered to analyze, but a fact that I
wish to "force" to be true. I want Blackheart to still be alive to give
$crooge an aged, but spry, enemy from his earliest years. However, you're
right, Blackheart would need to be at least 110 years old by 1952. Maybe
during his riverboat days he wandered over to the Everglades and sipped
from the fountain of "That's No Fable".
From: Rich Bellacera <xephyr at onemain.com>
>>>>recently released and available at my local bookstore called THE BIG
:LITTLE BOOK OF DISNEY by Monique Peterson.
While there's not a whole lot that is really new in it, there is a familial
link placing Daisy's (possible) brother Fred (?) as the parent of April,
May
& June. I'm not sure what the source of this claim is though.
Anyhow, here it is for what it's worth.
http://home.onemain.com/~xephyr/special/DuckFam.gif
I checked this address, and I'm dumfounded and perplexed. What a mess!!!
This author has taken the characters off my Duck Family Tree, some named by
Barks and some newly created (out of necessity for the Tree) and named by
me, somehow also gotten the info out of my *private* notes which have never
been printed in any Disney publication (having Ludwig Von Drake married to
Matilda McDuck) and tossed in elements from a few other sources, and
jumbled it all up into a mess. Then pulling one bit of idiocy out of thin
air and having "Mother Goose" (who I think is a human, anyway) being an
ancestor of one character, which is stupid enough, but the ancestor of a
Duck rather than Gus or Gladstone!??? What on earth caused this?
I bet most of it is a result of the author swiping info off of a fansite
like Gilles'. Did anyone ask permission for this, Gilles?
>>>>Anyone who has read some of Don Rosa's stories, may probably have
noticed a device which Don uses to make a skip ahead in time.
Erm, there was a point I wanted to make. Oh yes, it's a lovely story-device
and I sure like it, but I've seen it somewhere before. That is, in the
1985(?)
DC Comics series Watchmen, by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons.
Well, maybe Don hasn't read Watchmen at all, or maybe he has, but didn't
pick up this device from it because he knew it already, for, as I then
realised, it's a movie device.
That's right. I did read and love WATCHMEN, but that's a movie storytelling
device. (A short answer to your long, thoughtful query.)
>>>And another question: the final scene in 'A Little Something Special',
with
Scrooge trying hard to prevent Grandpa Beagle from falling of the giant
Cornelius Coot statue, strongly resembles the final scene of some movie by
Alfred Hitchcock, I believe it was Saboteur (1942), which takes place on
top
of the Statue of Liberty. Err, I think I don't need to put the question
anymore.
You are PRECISELY RIGHT. That is the movie scene I was emulating. It's
perhaps my favorite Hitchcock movie.
>>>>Well, I liked that scene. Has the Coot statue ever before been drawn
with
so much detail and shading? Has it ever before been drawn so
'realistically'?
I drew it a lot and it figured into the plot (hey, that rhymes!) in the
story I just sent in, Gyro Gearloose's 50th anniversary story. The story
also celebrates the 50th anniversary of Barks' creation of Cornelius Coot
and a few other Barks classic ideas. And there was the 50th anniversary
story for the Beagle Boys and the Money Bin I recently did... the Barks
stories of 50 years back were in the most creative and entertaining span of
his career! My mind boggles at all the classic stories in those years!
>>>>>And yet another question to mr. Don Rosa:
Don, is there any particular reason why you didn't give Duckburg a pig
mayor, instead of your dogfaced-man-with-top-hat-and-little-moustache?
Because the mayor I recall the most from my youth was the one I drew, the
dog-face guy. I remember him best from the "Snow Princess" story. I used
him in my first mayoral story ("Fit to be Pied") and I definitely wanted to
use him in the important "A Little Something Special", especially because I
was using a pig-face in another villainous role there on the podium. But I
don't really want to draw the same mayor each time. Thanks for pointing
this out -- if I use a mayor again sometime, I'll elect a pig-face.
>>>You would think Grandpa Beagle preferred something stronger ;)
(Ah, but then, in 1952 he would have been over 110 years old,
Please don't say that out loud! I was well aware of what his age must be if
he were to be so much older than $crooge in Barks' 1880 riverboat flashback
story, and if it were the same character as the Grandpa in "The Money
Well", something Barks surely never bothered to analyze, but a fact that I
wish to "force" to be true. I want Blackheart to still be alive to give
$crooge an aged, but spry, enemy from his earliest years. However, you're
right, Blackheart would need to be at least 110 years old by 1952. Maybe
during his riverboat days he wandered over to the Everglades and sipped
from the fountain of "That's No Fable".
From: Rich Bellacera <xephyr at onemain.com>
>>>>recently released and available at my local bookstore called THE BIG
:LITTLE BOOK OF DISNEY by Monique Peterson.
While there's not a whole lot that is really new in it, there is a familial
link placing Daisy's (possible) brother Fred (?) as the parent of April,
May
& June. I'm not sure what the source of this claim is though.
Anyhow, here it is for what it's worth.
http://home.onemain.com/~xephyr/special/DuckFam.gif
I checked this address, and I'm dumfounded and perplexed. What a mess!!!
This author has taken the characters off my Duck Family Tree, some named by
Barks and some newly created (out of necessity for the Tree) and named by
me, somehow also gotten the info out of my *private* notes which have never
been printed in any Disney publication (having Ludwig Von Drake married to
Matilda McDuck) and tossed in elements from a few other sources, and
jumbled it all up into a mess. Then pulling one bit of idiocy out of thin
air and having "Mother Goose" (who I think is a human, anyway) being an
ancestor of one character, which is stupid enough, but the ancestor of a
Duck rather than Gus or Gladstone!??? What on earth caused this?
I bet most of it is a result of the author swiping info off of a fansite
like Gilles'. Did anyone ask permission for this, Gilles?
Cord Wiljes
Gort, Klattu birada nikto
Message 28 -
2002-02-03 at 16:18:55
>> Don Rosa: Gort, Klattu birada nikto. Squa tront!
> Olaf Solstrand: Does these words have a meaning that the part of the list
which don't understand ... (finnish?) should know? What on earth does it
mean?
Well, I surely don't know, what it does mean "on earth", but on a distant
planet, home of the space traveller Klaatu from the classic Science Fiction
movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still" I grok it has to have some meaning
like "Gort, wait until I come back!" (Gort was a robot)
And, BTW, the correct phonetical translation from Klaatu's language is
"Gort, Klaatu barata niktu!" (In case you want to start a full text search
in the internet for more info on the classical phrase)
Cord
> Olaf Solstrand: Does these words have a meaning that the part of the list
which don't understand ... (finnish?) should know? What on earth does it
mean?
Well, I surely don't know, what it does mean "on earth", but on a distant
planet, home of the space traveller Klaatu from the classic Science Fiction
movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still" I grok it has to have some meaning
like "Gort, wait until I come back!" (Gort was a robot)
And, BTW, the correct phonetical translation from Klaatu's language is
"Gort, Klaatu barata niktu!" (In case you want to start a full text search
in the internet for more info on the classical phrase)
Cord
Sue And Gary Leach
DCML digest, Vol 1 #824 - 7 msgs
Message 29 -
2002-02-03 at 19:46:01
Don (Markstein) sez:
> I heard
> a RUMOR that Disney approached CrossGen (a small American comic book
> publisher) about the possibility of licensing the Disney characters.
If there is any truth to any of the rumors about Disney approaching this
pubisher or that, then we should take that as a hopeful sign: it signifies
that Disney (Disney Publishing, to be precise) is actually interested in
exploring options in getting the Disney comics up and running again in the
U.S.
Taking a moment from cursing the protracted waiting, waiting, waiting, I've
put together a little summation of the situation as it stands as of this
writing:
Rumor: U.S. comics publisher X or Y or Z has been approached by Disney to
assume the U.S. Disney comics license.
Fact: Diamond Comics Distributors/Gemstone Publishing has since early 1998
been in negotiation with Disney to assume the U.S. Disney comics license.
Speculation: Disney has very likely approached other U.S. publishers to
assume the U.S. Disney comics license. However, it is unlikely that Disney
has entered into what could be properly called formal negotiations with any
of them.
Assessment: Unlike every other U.S. comics publisher, Diamond is also the
single major direct market distributor for comics in the U.S. and Canada.
Moreover, Diamond's head honcho, Steve Geppi, is a Disney comics enthusiast
from way back, and is very keen on becoming the next the publisher of U.S.
Disney comics. Put these two factors together and you come up with a
situation that would be very awkward for any other U.S. publisher to step
into, without even considering the, shall we say, uncertain value of the
U.S. Disney comics license in terms of prospective revenue and market share.
Conclusion: While Disney may put out feelers to other publishers, the
license won't be going to anyone else except Diamond unless Diamond
withdraws from the field.
Gary
> I heard
> a RUMOR that Disney approached CrossGen (a small American comic book
> publisher) about the possibility of licensing the Disney characters.
If there is any truth to any of the rumors about Disney approaching this
pubisher or that, then we should take that as a hopeful sign: it signifies
that Disney (Disney Publishing, to be precise) is actually interested in
exploring options in getting the Disney comics up and running again in the
U.S.
Taking a moment from cursing the protracted waiting, waiting, waiting, I've
put together a little summation of the situation as it stands as of this
writing:
Rumor: U.S. comics publisher X or Y or Z has been approached by Disney to
assume the U.S. Disney comics license.
Fact: Diamond Comics Distributors/Gemstone Publishing has since early 1998
been in negotiation with Disney to assume the U.S. Disney comics license.
Speculation: Disney has very likely approached other U.S. publishers to
assume the U.S. Disney comics license. However, it is unlikely that Disney
has entered into what could be properly called formal negotiations with any
of them.
Assessment: Unlike every other U.S. comics publisher, Diamond is also the
single major direct market distributor for comics in the U.S. and Canada.
Moreover, Diamond's head honcho, Steve Geppi, is a Disney comics enthusiast
from way back, and is very keen on becoming the next the publisher of U.S.
Disney comics. Put these two factors together and you come up with a
situation that would be very awkward for any other U.S. publisher to step
into, without even considering the, shall we say, uncertain value of the
U.S. Disney comics license in terms of prospective revenue and market share.
Conclusion: While Disney may put out feelers to other publishers, the
license won't be going to anyone else except Diamond unless Diamond
withdraws from the field.
Gary
Rob Klein
Pig vs. Dog Mayors/Flashbacks
Message 30 -
2002-02-03 at 19:48:01
Don is definately being true to Barks with respect to his portrayal of
Duckburg's Mayor, - as Barks used at least two different Pigs, and a host of
Dog (generic mammal)-nosed characters. Even though the time freezing, which
keeps Huey, Dewey and Louie from aging and growing, must cover only a few
years, Barks had the Duckburgians tossing out old and electing new Mayors,
often. There must have been much incompetence, graft and corruption. The
incompetence is certain, as those Mayor's should NEVER have even considered
allowing the incompetent Donald to do a job for the City (at least after his
FIRST fiasco).
Don's use of a similar panel showing a past event in a similar situation MAY
have been inspired from his experience with E.C. comics, or his having seen
that method used in films, - but it is a tool that has been around for ages. I
imagine that it was even used in cave paintings to show: "We caught and killed
the Mammoths by those cliffs - and we will do it in like manner exactly there,
again!" It is like story plots, - there is nothing completely new under the
sun, only new combinations of the details! But, Don will likely let you know
what was his inspiration (IF it was a conscious choice). If an author has had
several sources of inspiration, he may not be able to identify it as a single
one. I think most authors have many favourite authors, other sources of
inspiration, and life experiences from which to draw from to develop their
individual styles. Some artistic and literary devices may be taken DIRECTLY
AND PURPOSELY from Barks, and OTHERS only patially inspired by his work, along
with many other sources.
Speaking of Don: Don, as this may be of interest to others in the group, I
would like you to explain to us how we can navigate towards the "NEWSGROUPS:
rec. arts. comics. misc." that contained Bob Hughes' message about the Indian
Disney comic books. It is probably obvious to most of you, but I am an
internet novice. I understand (to some degree)that "NEWSGROUPS" is a primary
link on a website or server page or navigation page or search engine page. I
attempted to do a "search" for "NEWSGROUPS" - and, of course, could not "find"
it. So, I must ask you what Domain you were in, or where shall I find
NEWSGROUPS: - so I can finally get to the CORRECT "comics. misc." and find the
list I am looking for.
Should I start at a particular search engine page? - (such as Yahoo, Google,
Alta Vista, etc.
I have Microsoft Internet Explorer as my internet navigator, and I start at my
miniscule server home page. But, I am capable of travelling to any given site
on the web, where the first link is. Please tell me the web address where
the "NEWSGROUPS" link is located. Thanks. - Rob Klein
Off Topic - (but short):Regarding the numbers of Muslims and Catholics
If any of those numbers are correct, they must be those above 1,000,000 (in
thousands) 1,000,000,000 (1.000.000.000 - billion or milliard). There are more
than 100,000,000 Muslims in Indonesia alone, and probably more than that number
of Catholics in Brasil (despite the belief in Mbanda by some of
those "professed" Catholics).
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Duckburg's Mayor, - as Barks used at least two different Pigs, and a host of
Dog (generic mammal)-nosed characters. Even though the time freezing, which
keeps Huey, Dewey and Louie from aging and growing, must cover only a few
years, Barks had the Duckburgians tossing out old and electing new Mayors,
often. There must have been much incompetence, graft and corruption. The
incompetence is certain, as those Mayor's should NEVER have even considered
allowing the incompetent Donald to do a job for the City (at least after his
FIRST fiasco).
Don's use of a similar panel showing a past event in a similar situation MAY
have been inspired from his experience with E.C. comics, or his having seen
that method used in films, - but it is a tool that has been around for ages. I
imagine that it was even used in cave paintings to show: "We caught and killed
the Mammoths by those cliffs - and we will do it in like manner exactly there,
again!" It is like story plots, - there is nothing completely new under the
sun, only new combinations of the details! But, Don will likely let you know
what was his inspiration (IF it was a conscious choice). If an author has had
several sources of inspiration, he may not be able to identify it as a single
one. I think most authors have many favourite authors, other sources of
inspiration, and life experiences from which to draw from to develop their
individual styles. Some artistic and literary devices may be taken DIRECTLY
AND PURPOSELY from Barks, and OTHERS only patially inspired by his work, along
with many other sources.
Speaking of Don: Don, as this may be of interest to others in the group, I
would like you to explain to us how we can navigate towards the "NEWSGROUPS:
rec. arts. comics. misc." that contained Bob Hughes' message about the Indian
Disney comic books. It is probably obvious to most of you, but I am an
internet novice. I understand (to some degree)that "NEWSGROUPS" is a primary
link on a website or server page or navigation page or search engine page. I
attempted to do a "search" for "NEWSGROUPS" - and, of course, could not "find"
it. So, I must ask you what Domain you were in, or where shall I find
NEWSGROUPS: - so I can finally get to the CORRECT "comics. misc." and find the
list I am looking for.
Should I start at a particular search engine page? - (such as Yahoo, Google,
Alta Vista, etc.
I have Microsoft Internet Explorer as my internet navigator, and I start at my
miniscule server home page. But, I am capable of travelling to any given site
on the web, where the first link is. Please tell me the web address where
the "NEWSGROUPS" link is located. Thanks. - Rob Klein
Off Topic - (but short):Regarding the numbers of Muslims and Catholics
If any of those numbers are correct, they must be those above 1,000,000 (in
thousands) 1,000,000,000 (1.000.000.000 - billion or milliard). There are more
than 100,000,000 Muslims in Indonesia alone, and probably more than that number
of Catholics in Brasil (despite the belief in Mbanda by some of
those "professed" Catholics).
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