Al Taliaferro always presented something of a poser to Gladstone. I never
thought that the attempts we made to produce comic book pages from his
Donald Duck comic strips worked very well, though from a production
standpoint they were very easy to do. Eventually we faced the fact that
Taliaferro's strips were best appreciated for what they were: short, snappy,
largely visual gags, and finished off by printing his strips as strips ?
though that was a bit more difficult to set up for comic books than
reformatting them.
The plot driven Mickey Mouse adventure strips by Floyd Gottfredson (& Co.)
were another matter entirely. They made terrific comic book stories, though
I must say they were a royal pain to put together for our late, lamented
Gladstone I run of the Mickey Mouse title.
Heaven, of course, would have been if Taliaferro (and Gottfredson) had taken
up comic books as Barks and Murry did, leaving a nice body of true comic
book work we could have drawn from at our relative leisure. Such things as
dreams are made of, I guess?
(Some may wonder why we didn't draw more from Murry than we did, and I must
say I still wonder myself.)
Gary
Author
Topic: 200202
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Sue And Gary Leach
Taliaferro
Message 256 -
2002-02-27 at 20:07:05
Madame Jennifer Inantaz
Duck Quiz
Message 257 -
2002-02-27 at 21:10:48
*Ochagirl covers her ugly mug with a paper bag*
--"I have a confession, I'm the the one who made the quiz!"--
--I couldn't help myself, they had no Disney Duck quiz on the site"--
Sooo, I'm going to tweak it a bit, and go to the site tomorrow.
See what you get.
TIP: don't agree to having a dark side! That'll get you a bad guy!
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=ocha
--Ochagirl---
Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here
--"I have a confession, I'm the the one who made the quiz!"--
--I couldn't help myself, they had no Disney Duck quiz on the site"--
Sooo, I'm going to tweak it a bit, and go to the site tomorrow.
See what you get.
TIP: don't agree to having a dark side! That'll get you a bad guy!
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=ocha
--Ochagirl---
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Madame Jennifer Inantaz
Scrooge Cameo
Message 258 -
2002-02-27 at 22:08:54
Hey, has anyone read the Mother Goose and Grimm comic strip today?
Scrooge make a cameo! I'm adding a link to the comic.
Warning: It's not something kids would get, but it's not exactly something for kids.
http://www.grimmy.com/images/2002/mgg022702.gif
It's actually kinda sick, and I'm cracking up here......feel free to complain...MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here
Scrooge make a cameo! I'm adding a link to the comic.
Warning: It's not something kids would get, but it's not exactly something for kids.
http://www.grimmy.com/images/2002/mgg022702.gif
It's actually kinda sick, and I'm cracking up here......feel free to complain...MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here
M. Mitchell Marmel
Scrooge Cameo
Message 259 -
2002-02-27 at 22:30:03
At 2:08 PM -0600 2/27/02, Madame Jennifer Inantaz wrote:
>
><http://www.grimmy.com/images/2002/mgg022702.gif>http://www.grimmy.com/images/2002/mgg022702.gif
>
>It's actually kinda sick, and I'm cracking up here......feel free to
>complain...
ROFL! :D
-MMM-
>
><http://www.grimmy.com/images/2002/mgg022702.gif>http://www.grimmy.com/images/2002/mgg022702.gif
>
>It's actually kinda sick, and I'm cracking up here......feel free to
>complain...
ROFL! :D
-MMM-
Teemu.Merikumpu
DCML digest, Vol 1 #850 - 15 msgs
Message 260 -
2002-02-28 at 02:21:37
I'm suprised that no one has mentioned special dialect-issues that at least
finnish AA has published (or I've missed something). These are about the
only exeptions to the rule that finnish AA uses grammatically etc. correct
finnish. Among those my favourite issue is the one using tampere dialect
(even though I could understand only about 50-60% of it and i've lived in
tampere all my life :-) I remember these talked about some time ago but
i don't recall if other coutries had similar issues published.
And about that quiz... I'M *NOT* DAISY EITHER!!!! (1. Daisy, 2. any male
McDuck)
Teemu, the first finnish male duck named Daisy...
__________________________________________________________
Hanki ilmainen Suomi24-s?hk?posti: http://posti.suomi24.fi
finnish AA has published (or I've missed something). These are about the
only exeptions to the rule that finnish AA uses grammatically etc. correct
finnish. Among those my favourite issue is the one using tampere dialect
(even though I could understand only about 50-60% of it and i've lived in
tampere all my life :-) I remember these talked about some time ago but
i don't recall if other coutries had similar issues published.
And about that quiz... I'M *NOT* DAISY EITHER!!!! (1. Daisy, 2. any male
McDuck)
Teemu, the first finnish male duck named Daisy...
__________________________________________________________
Hanki ilmainen Suomi24-s?hk?posti: http://posti.suomi24.fi
Luca Boschi
R: Scrooge Cameo
Message 261 -
2002-02-28 at 02:37:34
Hello!
Who is that blonde woman, Jennifer?
Maybe some TV star we don't know in Italy...
Thanks,
Luca
Who is that blonde woman, Jennifer?
Maybe some TV star we don't know in Italy...
Thanks,
Luca
Fabio Blanco
The Life and Times... in portuguese!
Message 262 -
2002-02-28 at 03:32:32
The Life and Times... in portuguese!When? What? Who? Where? I WANNA HAVE IT JUST NOW!!!! :)
FABIO
After two years of many postpones, this masterpiece is going to published in portuguese. The first volume (of two, since we're going do print a mini-series of two volumes) will be released in May.
FABIO
After two years of many postpones, this masterpiece is going to published in portuguese. The first volume (of two, since we're going do print a mini-series of two volumes) will be released in May.
Mike Pohjola
DCML digest, Vol 1 #847 - 10 msgs
Message 263 -
2002-02-28 at 05:40:22
DON:
> Anyway, the thought that *good* dialogue is being mucked up by an editor
> somewhere is rather disturbing to this storyteller.
Curiously enough, it seems that the Finnish translators treat your stories
in a very special way. I guess this is mostly because you're so incredibly
popular, and because they know you don't like actual facts changed. (Like
Sir Francis Drake being Disney-fied as Sir Francis Vaakku = Sir Francis
Quack.)
What I mean is, that whereas most stories are translated rather freely,
and the Finnish used is, albeit very formal, also very fluent and pleasant
to read.
Your stories immediately have a much more American feel to them, somehow.
Sure, they do try to focus on different dialects and accents you use to
make the end product more like you'd intended it to be. But they also
translate idioms and slang in a very straight-forward way.
For example, in one of the Klondike stories ("Hearts of Yukon"?), some
character says somebody else is like the south end of a northbound horse.
I'm quoting from memory here, but it was something along those lines. Now,
that's a funny way to call a person a horse's ass. Becose "a horse's ass"
is an American idiom for a dork, an idiot. When I first read this in
English, it worked very well for me.
In Finland, however, when we call someone a dork, we don't call them
horse's asses. We might say lots of other things, but horses usually don't
step into the equation in any way.
Your new version of the old idiom, however, was translated word-for-word
not working half as well as the original. Not only is it alot less fluent
to say it in Finnish ("pohjoiseen kulkevan hevosen etel?npuoleinen p??"),
the comic effect is mostly lost. Sure, you can guess they mean nothing
nice when saying this, but it just ain't that funny anymore. They could've
well used some Finnish idiom, and created the same comic effect by saying
it in a similar manner. Now it doesn't look like real speech, it looks
like a translation.
A similar situation was in the Kalevala story. Louhi says in Kalevala
verse that "dung is about to hit the windmill". Of course, any Finn who's
seen an American action movie knows what it means when shit hits the fan,
but that's not something that's in common use over here. Again, they
could've localized the idiom, but chose to translate it word-for-word.
This is something that has been bothering me quite a bit, 'cause often
the translated dialogue in your stories seems kinda difficult. (And then
again, sometimes it's very good.)
On a brighter side, I've adopted the idiom "dung hitting the windmill"
into common speech. It's just too funny to forgo. Maybe that's what the
translators thought, too.
OLAF:
> None of the Scottishmen or other "foreigners" in "Life of Scrooge"
> talks with an accent.
The situation's the same in Finland, as well. However, I'd guess this is
largely because there's no Scottish accent for Finnish. Nobody's ever
heard a Scotsman trying to speak Finnish. French we can imagine, but not
Scottish. Swedish, Turkish and Russian accents, those we hear all the
time.
Nynorsk for alle!
--
Mike Pohjola
mikep at iki.fi +358-50-5238399 http://www.iki.fi/mikep
> Anyway, the thought that *good* dialogue is being mucked up by an editor
> somewhere is rather disturbing to this storyteller.
Curiously enough, it seems that the Finnish translators treat your stories
in a very special way. I guess this is mostly because you're so incredibly
popular, and because they know you don't like actual facts changed. (Like
Sir Francis Drake being Disney-fied as Sir Francis Vaakku = Sir Francis
Quack.)
What I mean is, that whereas most stories are translated rather freely,
and the Finnish used is, albeit very formal, also very fluent and pleasant
to read.
Your stories immediately have a much more American feel to them, somehow.
Sure, they do try to focus on different dialects and accents you use to
make the end product more like you'd intended it to be. But they also
translate idioms and slang in a very straight-forward way.
For example, in one of the Klondike stories ("Hearts of Yukon"?), some
character says somebody else is like the south end of a northbound horse.
I'm quoting from memory here, but it was something along those lines. Now,
that's a funny way to call a person a horse's ass. Becose "a horse's ass"
is an American idiom for a dork, an idiot. When I first read this in
English, it worked very well for me.
In Finland, however, when we call someone a dork, we don't call them
horse's asses. We might say lots of other things, but horses usually don't
step into the equation in any way.
Your new version of the old idiom, however, was translated word-for-word
not working half as well as the original. Not only is it alot less fluent
to say it in Finnish ("pohjoiseen kulkevan hevosen etel?npuoleinen p??"),
the comic effect is mostly lost. Sure, you can guess they mean nothing
nice when saying this, but it just ain't that funny anymore. They could've
well used some Finnish idiom, and created the same comic effect by saying
it in a similar manner. Now it doesn't look like real speech, it looks
like a translation.
A similar situation was in the Kalevala story. Louhi says in Kalevala
verse that "dung is about to hit the windmill". Of course, any Finn who's
seen an American action movie knows what it means when shit hits the fan,
but that's not something that's in common use over here. Again, they
could've localized the idiom, but chose to translate it word-for-word.
This is something that has been bothering me quite a bit, 'cause often
the translated dialogue in your stories seems kinda difficult. (And then
again, sometimes it's very good.)
On a brighter side, I've adopted the idiom "dung hitting the windmill"
into common speech. It's just too funny to forgo. Maybe that's what the
translators thought, too.
OLAF:
> None of the Scottishmen or other "foreigners" in "Life of Scrooge"
> talks with an accent.
The situation's the same in Finland, as well. However, I'd guess this is
largely because there's no Scottish accent for Finnish. Nobody's ever
heard a Scotsman trying to speak Finnish. French we can imagine, but not
Scottish. Swedish, Turkish and Russian accents, those we hear all the
time.
Nynorsk for alle!
--
Mike Pohjola
mikep at iki.fi +358-50-5238399 http://www.iki.fi/mikep
Theresa Wiegert
Duck Quiz?
Message 264 -
2002-02-28 at 11:01:48
Hi ho
I seem to have missed some digest - where is this quiz test everyone is
talking about, which turns you into a villain or someone else?
--
/Theresa, intrigued
I seem to have missed some digest - where is this quiz test everyone is
talking about, which turns you into a villain or someone else?
--
/Theresa, intrigued
Michael Schartau
Scrooge Cameo
Message 265 -
2002-02-28 at 12:23:52
R: Scrooge CameoNot a star but former model (H & M some yeras ago). Famous for marrying an old rich man and having a "fight" with his "kins" about his will.
/ Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Luca Boschi
To: Madame Jennifer Inantaz ; dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:37 AM
Subject: R: Scrooge Cameo
Hello!
Who is that blonde woman, Jennifer?
Maybe some TV star we don't know in Italy...
Thanks,
Luca
/ Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Luca Boschi
To: Madame Jennifer Inantaz ; dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 1:37 AM
Subject: R: Scrooge Cameo
Hello!
Who is that blonde woman, Jennifer?
Maybe some TV star we don't know in Italy...
Thanks,
Luca
M. Mitchell Marmel
Duck Quiz?
Message 266 -
2002-02-28 at 13:35:54
At 10:01 AM +0100 2/28/02, Theresa Wiegert wrote:
>Hi ho
>I seem to have missed some digest - where is this quiz test everyone is
>talking about, which turns you into a villain or someone else?
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=ocha
-MMM-
>Hi ho
>I seem to have missed some digest - where is this quiz test everyone is
>talking about, which turns you into a villain or someone else?
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=ocha
-MMM-
Thierry Fernand
Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck, chapter #6
Message 267 -
2002-02-28 at 13:41:54
Presented in the photos section this week is The
Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck part 6 1/2: "The
Vigilante of Pizen Bluff". Scanned from Uncle Scrooge
#306. It is, of course, by Don Rosa.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcfdisneycomicfans/
__________________________________________________
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Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com
Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck part 6 1/2: "The
Vigilante of Pizen Bluff". Scanned from Uncle Scrooge
#306. It is, of course, by Don Rosa.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcfdisneycomicfans/
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion!
http://greetings.yahoo.com
Paulo Ferreira
The Life and Times... in portuguese!
Message 268 -
2002-02-28 at 13:49:32
Hello,
After two years of many postpones, this masterpiece is going to published in
portuguese. The first volume (of two, since we're going do print a
mini-series of two volumes) will be released in May.
In order to do a good press release, I'd like to know a couple of things,
such as: how copies this book has selled worldwide, in how many languages,
the prizes, and so on.
Best regards and thank you all
Paulo Ferreira
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After two years of many postpones, this masterpiece is going to published in
portuguese. The first volume (of two, since we're going do print a
mini-series of two volumes) will be released in May.
In order to do a good press release, I'd like to know a couple of things,
such as: how copies this book has selled worldwide, in how many languages,
the prizes, and so on.
Best regards and thank you all
Paulo Ferreira
-----Original Message-----
From: dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se [mailto:dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se]
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Arttu Salminen
Disney Duck Quiz
Message 269 -
2002-02-28 at 15:49:20
> Here's a Disney Comic Quiz! Everybody in it is in the Donald or Uncle
Scrooge comics!
Yippee, I'm Huey, Dewey or Louie!!!
--
Arttu Salminen
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
http://go.to/donrosa
Scrooge comics!
Yippee, I'm Huey, Dewey or Louie!!!
--
Arttu Salminen
http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa
http://go.to/donrosa
Fabian Körner
Disney Duck Quiz
Message 270 -
2002-02-28 at 17:56:13
> > Here's a Disney Comic Quiz! Everybody in it is in the
> Donald or Uncle
> Scrooge comics!
>
> Yippee, I'm Huey, Dewey or Louie!!!
Wahh! I'm Gladstone Gander. :( I prefer number 2 and three: Gyro
Gearloose and HDL.
cu, Fabian.
http://www.donald.org/index.php
> Donald or Uncle
> Scrooge comics!
>
> Yippee, I'm Huey, Dewey or Louie!!!
Wahh! I'm Gladstone Gander. :( I prefer number 2 and three: Gyro
Gearloose and HDL.
cu, Fabian.
http://www.donald.org/index.php