Quote from user: ManduckI'm starting to wonder if Spector has actually seen ANY episode of the series
Maybe he didn't...One year ago, I posted a message on Spector's blog, if he had any plans on including references to DA shows in Epic Mickey, and he replied that he had never watched TaleSpin and Darkwing Duck. If he had watched the Disney Afternoon, he WOULD have! I honestly don't know too many people that watched Ducktales but not the other shows.
That makes me wonder why he insists on making Ducktales and not just new ducks adventures.
I think he should stick to video games, but I can understand why he accepted the offer to write comics if Disney didn't want (and probably still don't want? E3 2011 maybe?) to do a Ducktales game.
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Topic: BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
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Steet
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 16 -
2011-05-28 at 18:00:42
Lars Jensen
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 17 -
2011-05-28 at 19:02:23
Quote from user: steetQuote from user: ManduckI'm starting to wonder if Spector has actually seen ANY episode of the series
Maybe he didn't...One year ago, I posted a message on Spector's blog, if he had any plans on including references to DA shows in Epic Mickey, and he replied that he had never watched TaleSpin and Darkwing Duck.
If you're referring to http://junctionpoint.wordpress.com/2010/06/26/e3-2010-or-two-rooms-eight-walls-and-the-coolest-thing-ever-part-5/ , Spector merely stated he had never watched TaleSpin. He didn't say one word about Darkwing Duck.
Quote from user: steetIf he had watched the Disney Afternoon, he WOULD have! I honestly don't know too many people that watched Ducktales but not the other shows.
Perhaps he didn't watch the Disney Afternoon, then?
DuckTales debuted in 1987 and pretty much ended in 1989, with the movie and the last eight episodes premiering in 1990. The Disney Afternoon didn't show up on TV screens until September 1990. I can easily see why a Barks fan like Spector might have seen DuckTales when it first premiered... but not have bothered to watch TaleSpin a few years later.
Maybe he didn't...One year ago, I posted a message on Spector's blog, if he had any plans on including references to DA shows in Epic Mickey, and he replied that he had never watched TaleSpin and Darkwing Duck.
If you're referring to http://junctionpoint.wordpress.com/2010/06/26/e3-2010-or-two-rooms-eight-walls-and-the-coolest-thing-ever-part-5/ , Spector merely stated he had never watched TaleSpin. He didn't say one word about Darkwing Duck.
Quote from user: steetIf he had watched the Disney Afternoon, he WOULD have! I honestly don't know too many people that watched Ducktales but not the other shows.
Perhaps he didn't watch the Disney Afternoon, then?
DuckTales debuted in 1987 and pretty much ended in 1989, with the movie and the last eight episodes premiering in 1990. The Disney Afternoon didn't show up on TV screens until September 1990. I can easily see why a Barks fan like Spector might have seen DuckTales when it first premiered... but not have bothered to watch TaleSpin a few years later.
Steet
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 18 -
2011-05-28 at 20:12:29
He said in another interview he never watched Darkwing Duck either. (though I didn't keep the bookmark) I just wanted to summarize.
So the whole thing about being in the same timeline with the Darkwing Duck comic seems more like marketing...
I think the most realistic is that he only watched Ducktales years ago, probably not all the episodes (because the last were produced for and aired on the Disney Afternoon), and he didn't do his homework by watching all the episodes before doing the comic.
So the whole thing about being in the same timeline with the Darkwing Duck comic seems more like marketing...
I think the most realistic is that he only watched Ducktales years ago, probably not all the episodes (because the last were produced for and aired on the Disney Afternoon), and he didn't do his homework by watching all the episodes before doing the comic.
Carl
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 19 -
2011-05-28 at 22:25:55
Well I for one enjoyed the first issue; The Rockerduck, Fethry and Daisy appearances (among others) show that Spector has knowledge of the duck universe beyond the ducktales tv show, which is a plus in my book. Btw, these appearances for Fethry and and Daisy weren't out of character for them, since they work for Scrooge's newspaper in plenty of comics (don't know if those are of italian origin).
I remember him stating that he "wanted the disney ducks", so this is just Spectors way of consolidating the duck universe while doing it under the more known brand of ducktales. I won't be angry if some things aren't in continuity with the ducktales tv show. Perhaps a bit of false advertising, but the story is good enough to stand on its own.
I remember him stating that he "wanted the disney ducks", so this is just Spectors way of consolidating the duck universe while doing it under the more known brand of ducktales. I won't be angry if some things aren't in continuity with the ducktales tv show. Perhaps a bit of false advertising, but the story is good enough to stand on its own.
Matilda
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 20 -
2011-05-29 at 23:39:26
OK, since y'all are discussing DuckTales knowledgeably, I'm going to repeat a question I posted earlier and didn't get an answer for. In U$ 399, "The Arcadian Urn," a DuckTales story, Webby has a "Littlest Chickadee Field Guide" which clearly functions in a way equivalent to the Junior Woodchucks' Guidebook (has arcane information, translates ancient languages, etc.). Here's my question: in the DuckTales episodes or other DuckTales comics stories, is it established that Webby (1) is a Chickadee and (2) has such a guidebook? I never watched DuckTales on TV (only saw the movie), and I'm interested in this aspect of gender parity, since it's always bothered me that only males will ever have access to the JW Guidebook (in the present day--not counting Cleopatra!).
Lars Jensen
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 21 -
2011-05-29 at 23:59:42
Quote from user: MatildaOK, since y'all are discussing DuckTales knowledgeably, I'm going to repeat a question I posted earlier and didn't get an answer for. In U$ 399, "The Arcadian Urn," a DuckTales story, Webby has a "Littlest Chickadee Field Guide" which clearly functions in a way equivalent to the Junior Woodchucks' Guidebook (has arcane information, translates ancient languages, etc.). Here's my question: in the DuckTales episodes or other DuckTales comics stories, is it established that Webby (1) is a Chickadee and (2) has such a guidebook? I never watched DuckTales on TV (only saw the movie), and I'm interested in this aspect of gender parity, since it's always bothered me that only males will ever have access to the JW Guidebook (in the present day--not counting Cleopatra!).
In at least one of the TV episodes ("Merit-Time Adventure") Webby is seen to be a Junior Woodchuck. I don't know whether she was ever a Chickadee in the TV series.
In at least one of the TV episodes ("Merit-Time Adventure") Webby is seen to be a Junior Woodchuck. I don't know whether she was ever a Chickadee in the TV series.
Robb_K
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 22 -
2011-05-30 at 00:23:58
The Girl Scouts have NOT merged with The Boy Scouts, as far as I know. If Webby has been placed into The Junior Woodchucks by the series writers, that is the height of political correctness. Are the last bastions of boys and girls separation at a young age fallen? Are girls now admitted into The Boy Scouts due to threat of lawsuits and claims that separation is unconstitutional?
Matilda
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 23 -
2011-05-30 at 21:39:06
Yes, I agree with Robb, putting Webby in the Junior Woodchucks is indeed weird. True, in the years between Barks and Rosa people making the American comics seem often to have forgotten that the Duckburg Girl Scouts are called (Littlest) Chickadees. But I don't believe anyone in American comics ever put girls in the Woodchucks (aside from John Carey's very sexist "Woodchuck for a Day", W JW 43-02, wherein April disguises herself as a Woodchuck [though you'd think her high heels would give her away!]). In several stories in HDL JW and in Daisy & Donald from the late 1970's and 1980's, the Duckburg Girl Scouts are indeed called Chickadees. In other issues of HDL JW, AM&J are in Scouting organizations called "Twitter-birds" ("The Great Twitter-bird Rescue" by Bob Gregory, W JW 47-03) and "Nature's Princesses" ("Rescue Squad", W JW 36-03 --despite the obnoxious organizational name, this may be the least sexist of the stories, which, believe me, is not saying much! Didn't it occur to anyone that girls might be reading these stories?). In Ludwig Von Drake 1, AM&J are in a Scouting group with the decent name of "Red Robins" ("Super Sales Girls", W LVD 1-06). My personal favorite of the names for Duckburg girls' scouting groups, though, is the early Barks' "Junior Bonfire Girls"! (in "Kite Weather," W WDC 42-02) (For those of you in other countries: there was another Girl Scouts-like organization in the USA called Camp Fire Girls; in 1975 it was expanded to include boys [sorry, Robb! :-) ], and is now called Camp Fire USA.)
So I'm glad that Paul Halas & Tom Anderson in "The Arcadian Urn" made Webby a Chickadee, not a Woodchuck...and unless any of you knows otherwise, I'll assume that they invented the "Chickadee Field Guide."
Though, come to think of it....it's possible that Halas & Anderson did make Webby a Woodchuck (or whatever the Danish version of that is), and have her using a JW Guidebook, and it was the translators who turned her into a Chickadee and thus had to invent a "Chickadee Field Guide". Anyone know whether that was the case?
So I'm glad that Paul Halas & Tom Anderson in "The Arcadian Urn" made Webby a Chickadee, not a Woodchuck...and unless any of you knows otherwise, I'll assume that they invented the "Chickadee Field Guide."
Though, come to think of it....it's possible that Halas & Anderson did make Webby a Woodchuck (or whatever the Danish version of that is), and have her using a JW Guidebook, and it was the translators who turned her into a Chickadee and thus had to invent a "Chickadee Field Guide". Anyone know whether that was the case?
Ramapith
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 24 -
2011-05-30 at 23:03:14
Good question. Jonathan Gray and I translated this story from Dutch; in the Dutch version, at least, Webby's book was simply a basic guide to ancient Greece. Nothing about the Chickadees (or, for that matter, Woodchucks) was mentioned.
Jon felt the book's rather intricate knowledge seemed inappropriate for a basic guide, so he decided to make Webby a Chickadee and the book her manual??good idea.
We translated from Dutch, by the way, because Egmont couldn't locate Halas' original British English version to send us. So we still don't know what the very first version of the story called the guide.
Jon felt the book's rather intricate knowledge seemed inappropriate for a basic guide, so he decided to make Webby a Chickadee and the book her manual??good idea.
We translated from Dutch, by the way, because Egmont couldn't locate Halas' original British English version to send us. So we still don't know what the very first version of the story called the guide.
Matilda
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 25 -
2011-05-31 at 00:05:22
Thanks for the info, David! So I will mentally credit Jonathan with the creation of the Chickadee Field Guide (for which I thank him!). Perhaps he is also the first person to officially enroll Webby in the Chickadees?
I do think that giving Webby a Chickadee Field Guide which seems equivalent to the JW Guidebook fits with the rest of the story, where Webby repeatedly saves the day. A nice change from the sexist JW dreck c. 1980 referenced above.
Though I'm usually loyal to Rosa's version of the ducks' world, the fact that such a Chickadee Field Guide could not exist in Rosa's Duckburg doesn't bother me, because the DuckTales universe is clearly a parallel universe, with DuckTales comics existing in Rosa's Duckburg as $crooge-inspired fiction (see "The Beagle Boys vs. the Money Bin"--did that joke make it into translations of this story?).
And I do wonder what Paul Halas had in mind....
I do think that giving Webby a Chickadee Field Guide which seems equivalent to the JW Guidebook fits with the rest of the story, where Webby repeatedly saves the day. A nice change from the sexist JW dreck c. 1980 referenced above.
Though I'm usually loyal to Rosa's version of the ducks' world, the fact that such a Chickadee Field Guide could not exist in Rosa's Duckburg doesn't bother me, because the DuckTales universe is clearly a parallel universe, with DuckTales comics existing in Rosa's Duckburg as $crooge-inspired fiction (see "The Beagle Boys vs. the Money Bin"--did that joke make it into translations of this story?).
And I do wonder what Paul Halas had in mind....
Robb_K
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 26 -
2011-05-31 at 00:19:53
I think Webby being in The Chicadees, and that group having their own Guidebook is the best solution.
Vesuvius
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 27 -
2011-05-31 at 05:14:34
I'd guess that "set in the same universe as Darkwing Duck" is a marketing ploy. I smell a crossover. Although technically, they already did that a bit in the fourth issue of Darkwing, when Scrooge showed up and made Launchpad CEO of Quackworks.
Kimba_1962
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 28 -
2011-06-01 at 14:44:27
Quote from user: VesuviusI'd guess that "set in the same universe as Darkwing Duck" is a marketing ploy. I smell a crossover. Although technically, they already did that a bit in the fourth issue of Darkwing, when Scrooge showed up and made Launchpad CEO of Quackworks.
However Spector decides to amalgamate the DARKWING and DUCKTALES universes in future issues, he's going to have to provide a LOT more context than he did in that one villain-packed panel. As enjoyable as it was to see Moliarity, Arpin, Azure Blue, etc. together, I have to see some EXPLANATION for the "unholy alliance" before I can buy it. The shame of it is that Spector may not get a full chance to provide the explanation. No one seems to have mentioned the absence of trumpeted artist Miquel Pujol and the substitution of Castellani et al., but the unexplained change of personnel suggests to me that kaboom! may simply want to publish the first story arc and then let the title expire.
However Spector decides to amalgamate the DARKWING and DUCKTALES universes in future issues, he's going to have to provide a LOT more context than he did in that one villain-packed panel. As enjoyable as it was to see Moliarity, Arpin, Azure Blue, etc. together, I have to see some EXPLANATION for the "unholy alliance" before I can buy it. The shame of it is that Spector may not get a full chance to provide the explanation. No one seems to have mentioned the absence of trumpeted artist Miquel Pujol and the substitution of Castellani et al., but the unexplained change of personnel suggests to me that kaboom! may simply want to publish the first story arc and then let the title expire.
Jano
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 29 -
2011-06-01 at 15:33:24
Quote from user: kimba_1962However Spector decides to amalgamate the DARKWING and DUCKTALES universes in future issues, he's going to have to provide a LOT more context than he did in that one villain-packed panel. As enjoyable as it was to see Moliarity, Arpin, Azure Blue, etc. together, I have to see some EXPLANATION for the "unholy alliance" before I can buy it.
Again, this was *not* a panel and nothing done by Warren Spector. It is the C (originally B) cover done by Darkwing Duck artist James Silvani. It has nothing to do with the story itself. James just loves to draw character cameos.
Edit: Ooops, nevermind, my fault. See next posting.
Again, this was *not* a panel and nothing done by Warren Spector. It is the C (originally B) cover done by Darkwing Duck artist James Silvani. It has nothing to do with the story itself. James just loves to draw character cameos.
Edit: Ooops, nevermind, my fault. See next posting.
Manduck
BOOM!'s DuckTales comics
Message 30 -
2011-06-01 at 19:17:04
Quote from user: Janokimba_1962 wrote:
However Spector decides to amalgamate the DARKWING and DUCKTALES universes in future issues, he's going to have to provide a LOT more context than he did in that one villain-packed panel. As enjoyable as it was to see Moliarity, Arpin, Azure Blue, etc. together, I have to see some EXPLANATION for the "unholy alliance" before I can buy it.
Again, this was *not* a panel and nothing done by Warren Spector. It is the C (originally B) cover done by Darkwing Duck artist James Silvani. It has nothing to do with the story itself. James just loves to draw character cameos.
No, the panel kimba is referring to appears in the story. I'd cite the page, but I don't have the comic in front of me now.
However Spector decides to amalgamate the DARKWING and DUCKTALES universes in future issues, he's going to have to provide a LOT more context than he did in that one villain-packed panel. As enjoyable as it was to see Moliarity, Arpin, Azure Blue, etc. together, I have to see some EXPLANATION for the "unholy alliance" before I can buy it.
Again, this was *not* a panel and nothing done by Warren Spector. It is the C (originally B) cover done by Darkwing Duck artist James Silvani. It has nothing to do with the story itself. James just loves to draw character cameos.
No, the panel kimba is referring to appears in the story. I'd cite the page, but I don't have the comic in front of me now.