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Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> What a sad way of writing to people.

No. What's really sad here is that some of the disney-editors
seem to promote freely the ideals of 40s and 50s.

I hope they figure out, before the next century is over, that
without creators, they'd be unemployed.

If I'd want to be REALLY provocative I'd quote Frank Miller
on the subject, but this is Disney-list, right?

/Mikko

DON:
Well I did say that there was a "possibility" that I would get a second shot
at meeting you, i.e. *if* you are coming to Denmark. Anyway, having cleared
that bit: yes, you are right - there aren't that many comics-conventions (if
any) in Denmark. I can only remember two of them in my lifetime.

GARY:
Were the Indian tribe-related strips part of the 1938-1941 run? I had a
quick look through the Danish collections of Taliaferro dailies and couldn't
find them anywhere.

DAVE:
I believe I read the Lustig/Van Horn Pizza Delivery story in the Danish
Anders And & Co. If only they would go back to printing the credits.

MICHAEL:
I found some online Danish/English dictionaries the other day. Unfortunately
I can't remember any addresses. However, I found them by pointing my
web-browser to http://www.altavista.digital.com and entering "+danish +english
+dictionary" as the search string.
You might also be able to find something by using the two danish
search-engines Jubii (http://www.jubii.dk) and JORI (http://jori.jubii.dk) The
first one is heavily inspired by Yahoo and the second one by Altavista.

DWIGHT:
I did recognize the source of Donalds quotation in "En Plads paa Toppen".
Even had a good laugh about it.

--- Jan

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JOACHIM BUTZ wrote:
<...best Mickey story done since Paul Murry....art is really
GREAT....>
<I like the way Ulrich drawing the mouse VERY much.>

ALL:
Sounds *very* interesting. I would really like to read a new *great*
Mickey story! So I wonder, where is this story published? Has it been
published in recent issues in Scandinavia? Or is it planned to be?

Anyone....?

--Oddvar

TO HARRY:

>I repeatedly told you and Jos about this. And every time the reply is
>"we never knew that". What were you thinking then, when I discussed
>it?

I remember you mentioned the "splash-panels"-affair on the phone, and I
answered Don personally in the digest. The reason that these splash-panels
are still published since your call, is that we order these comics in large
amounts, and we have still a drawer full of "splash-panel-stories". We can
't simply throw that stuff away. So, my memo on the "splash-panel-affairs"
didn't end up in the trashcan.

>Bad example... I think you meant Vicar, not Van Horn. Van Horn is also
>"DD Extra-only", just like Rota, and as it seems even Branca.

There are plans to publish the best Van Horn-stories in the Weekly, just
like Branca-stories appear every once and a while in the Weekly AND the
Monthly. That's why I said the Van Horn-stories are more suitable for the
Weekly.

>Well then, is there a commercial value in mentioning the names of "Who
>make Donald Duck (weekly)" and "Who make Donald Duck Extra"?
>I'm not saying these texts should or shouldn't be there, I'm just curious!

All the magazines published by The Geillustreerde Pers and VNU contain
special columns with the names of the editors. But I can tell you a lot of
freelance-workers (and most of the artists are freelance) don't get any
credit. These colums would easlily fill an entire page: not just at the
Disneycomics-department.

I realise most of the people in this discussion-group are
Duck-/Rosa-fanatics, so everything I say (from a COMPANY'S point of view) is
seldom appreciated. If there are people who don't like that, please contact
Disney's in Brussel, buy a publishing license and make your own
ROSA-magazine.
We like to make Disney-magazines for everybody.

TO MIKE POHJOLA :

I wrote:
>The weekly-readers are about 8 to 12 years old. While the Montly-readers
>turned out to be much older (about 10-15 years).

> Could this be the result of the story-choice rather than the
other way around?

Could be. We're quite satisfied with the situation right now. Weekly-readers
who don't like the Weekly anymore because they think it's too "childlish",
continue reading Disney-comics with the Monthly-magazine, which contains
practically no editorial "child-stuff", just pure comics.

DANIEL ANSWERS MIKKO:
>Maybe it is, but the Dutch Weekly is not a "literary" comic like the U$
>and WDC&S of Gladstone. It's mostly read by children who want to read the
>new adventures by their "heroes" and/or just want to have something to do
>on a dull moment.

Thanks for helping me out, Daniel. In the Netherlands we sell more about
350.000 copies of the Weekly every week (we reach about 70% of all Dutch
children and teenagers). In the United States the circulation of
Disneycomics in only a very limited amount of shops is just several
thousands (but correct me if I'm wrong).

Naturally it's very nice to make a "literary comic" (and I really would love
to do it), but I think the Disney Company wouldn't be enthusiastic if the
Dutch publisher decided to give up the Weekly (and the good profits) just to
make "literary" comics.
Consider it a being just a dirty money-thing... you have to take it for
granted, and when you don't, you better jump of a cliff, Mikko.

>Or did ya just score some quality "weed" from the street?
The quality of Dutch weed is the best in the world and can be obtained on
every streetcorner. Maybe you should try some and relax...

> I know. How about GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE?

Daniel wrote:
>Carl Barks, Don Rosa en William van Horn do get credit here in Holland.

If you want information on authors, artists etc. there are phones, faxes,
mailboxes and computers to get that information, and we take our time to
answer. The next Lo$-album also contains some editorial pages on Don Rosa
and Barks.
Satisfied?

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Hi again!

Mike Pohjola wrote:

<<The question was asked here before, but you haven't yet answered it. Why
not credits? Is it Egmont policy to ignore that question or is it simply a
question which you have to answer daily and have gotten tired of? Surely the
printing of the credits wouldn't make the sales go down!>>

The story is that Walt Disney himself was reluctant to give prominent
credit on his material to other people, after the first several years in
which several prominent Disney employees (most notably early animator, and
designer of Mickey Mouse, Ub Iwerks) were successfully lured away by
competitors after being given such credit. But these days, with the comics
only a goldfish in the Disney ocean, I doubt that matters...indeed, even Walt
once suggested (according to Gottfredson) that the Disney strips bear the
signatures of the actual writer and artist along with Disney, and that King
Features felt it would confuse the children. Besides, what competition IS
there for the Disney comics these days? The Warner Bros. comics reluctantly
published by DC? The "Wolf and Red" one-shots from Dark Horse? I doubt Don
Rosa could be hired away by those people even if he wanted to be, which he's
indicated he doesn't particularly. (Too bad; those comics could use a shot in
the arm. DC tries even if the editors would rather do mostly bad
super-heroes, but when they reuse probably the worst juxtaposition ever of
Warner characters, Daffy Duck and Speedy Gonzales...)

Steven Rowe wrote:

<<It's hard for most of us to id writers (Mark Evanier is easier for me, as
he gave me a list of everything he wrote for Gold Key).>>

Martin O'Hearn, my APA-I partner, has made a detailed study of it, as
you but possibly not everyone on the Digest knows. But in order to identify a
writer, he needs a significant amount of material by that writer, so he's
only beginning to make a start on the Disney writers. (Though in some cases,
as with Carl Barks, he's pretty thorough.)

<< However the penciler was obviously by Jack Manning and not by Kay Wright.
Gladstone credited it to Wright (because Western indicated he did it?),
thus leading to my comment
that Gladstone can't see the difference between the two.>>

It could've been worse. I misread an earlier comment and thought someone
couldn't tell Kay Wright from RUSS Manning, another Western stalwart who
created Magnus, Robot Fighter and worked on other books, doing so well with
Tarzan that the Burroughs estate hired him away to draw Tarzan's newspaper
strip. Was he related to Jack Manning, by any chance?

Fabio Gadducci wrote:

<<...what about `Topolino e il Doppio Mistero di Macchia Nera',
published as `Phantom Blot's double mistery' (if I remember right) by
Gladstone? It is by Scarpa and Martina, and it portrays a Mickey stabbing to
death Chief O'Hara. Not to talk about `Mickey's Inferno', by Martina and
Bioletto. All the early scripts by Martina are quite violent and to a certain
extent `sadistic': they lose their edge from the Sixties on. Btw, for those
of you whop do not know, Martina is the most important of the so-called
Italian Disney writers, working with Mondadori since mid-Forties, and he is
maybe the most prolific Disney writer of the world, with more the seven
hundred Disney stories under his belt (not to talk about all his freelance
work).>>

Well, of course Mickey had been hypnotized by the Blot to kill O'Hara,
and he didn't actually do so (even the Blot had meant O'Hara to survive, so
Mickey would be unjustly accused). But he does seem like a talented writer,
from what I've seen. I learned on this Digest that my first exposure to him
had been through the "Disney Encyclopedia" he wrote in Italian, that was
translated for this country with a few changes (apparently one volume
narrated by Fethry Duck, a character then unknown in America, was changed to
feature Donald as narrator).

Fabio Gadducci wrote:

<<Well, I cannot say that Milligan is on of my hero (hi, Mikko :-), but I
actually liked the early issues of Shade, not to mention most of his previous
British work. And yes, the Italian can offer some of the worst artists ever,
much worse than those of Western. Let us try to be positive, OK, and let us
avoid writing too negative reviews.>>

Actually, I think I may have been a bit hard on Milligan (though not on
Marz, but, again, no point in negative reviews, especially unrelated to
Disney). It may have been that he struck me as (a) disjointed (maybe he WAS
smoking that Dutch weed all the time he wrote his stories), and (b)
virulently anti-American, something understandably less appealing to me than
to a European. His worst work was probably a Batman story that turned the
Riddler into a baby-killer and Thomas Jefferson into a demon worshipper
(hadn't he forgiven him for the Declaration of Independence YET?), but what
really led me to write him off was an early Shade story about the
assassination of President Kennedy, which performed the near-impossible feat
of making the WARREN COMMISSION REPORT read like a comparative masterpiece of
coherence...

Dwight Decker:

I stand corrected as to what kind of Republican Carl Barks was...I don't
want to get too political here (despite what I said to Fabio a moment ago),
but it certainly sheds some interesting light on his treatment of Scrooge and
the rest.

Don Rosa:

Keep up the good work, as always! By now, I think you've adapted all your
Pertwillaby Papers stories into Duck tales (except maybe "Sub-Zero," since I
doubt the company that won't even re-release "Der Fuehrer's Face" would let
Donald and Scrooge get involved with Hitler and Martin Bormann). But I keep
hearing about a European series with Donald as a super-hero (Super
Snooper?)...maybe you could see if any of your Captain Kentucky stories would
fit in with it?

Take care,

Rich Morrissey

ALIPIO:

>>> Saludos amigos!!!
>>Ah, so THAT's what he's talking about! But Mickey wasn't in that movie
>>at all... 8-)
> It's not about the movie. He is greeting us ( Saludos Amigos =
> Greetings friends!)

The "8-)" behind my words was there to indicate that I wasn't serious, just
making fun. It's a "smiley", usually spelled :-) but since I'm wearing
glasses...

--Harry.

Jonathan:
> How do you pronounce the name Daan Jippes?

Hm... I can only approximate the Dutch pronunciation in English
terms:

DAAN is like in "done", but with a longer vowel
JIP = "yip"
PES = like the first part of "puzzle"

(Done Yippuzz?)

This is his Dutch pronunciation. I don't know how he pronounces
his name himself; he has been living in the USA for years (and I think
he's still of the American nationality).

--Harry (Hah-ree F-luck-s)