GARY LEACH WRITES:
>If only it was a secret committee, then we'd have a real enemy to fight!
No, the folks we work with at Disney are pretty much just like us, trying
to do their jobs and follow policy in the midst of no small amount of chaos
and confusion.
Is there REALLY a written policy that they utilize for guidelines?
Love to see it! Or is it really the whim of the latest person in charge?
Author
Topic: 199609
(378 messages)
Michael Naiman
Disney policy
Message 241 -
1996-09-20 at 02:08:24
Sschridde
Phantomias
Message 242 -
1996-09-20 at 02:17:00
Hi all!
As the discussion on Superduck/Phantomias and SuperDaisy/Phantomime has been
going on for a while, I was aware when reading a retailer ad for Disney comics
in Germany... there they announced a new series starting on Sept.26th, 1996:
A 64 pages - album titled: Phantomias !!!
IT shall have a glossy cover, and "futuristic adventures", whatever it is they
call like this. In comparison they mention th e success in Italy, where the
first issue sold over 150 000 copies...
And in Germany some anniversary issues are coming their way!
In the stores is Lustiges Taschenbuch (156 pages-pocket book) No. 225... normal
issue except for a metallic cover, though...
And: No 500 of Donald Duck pocket book!!!! If I remember corectly, they will do
a kind of review over the last 500 issues...
If anybody is interested, feel free to mail me...
Bye for now, Soeren Schridde
<(Email removed)>
As the discussion on Superduck/Phantomias and SuperDaisy/Phantomime has been
going on for a while, I was aware when reading a retailer ad for Disney comics
in Germany... there they announced a new series starting on Sept.26th, 1996:
A 64 pages - album titled: Phantomias !!!
IT shall have a glossy cover, and "futuristic adventures", whatever it is they
call like this. In comparison they mention th e success in Italy, where the
first issue sold over 150 000 copies...
And in Germany some anniversary issues are coming their way!
In the stores is Lustiges Taschenbuch (156 pages-pocket book) No. 225... normal
issue except for a metallic cover, though...
And: No 500 of Donald Duck pocket book!!!! If I remember corectly, they will do
a kind of review over the last 500 issues...
If anybody is interested, feel free to mail me...
Bye for now, Soeren Schridde
<(Email removed)>
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #203
Message 243 -
1996-09-20 at 02:38:42
In the midst of the Disney Comics era, I attended the San Diego Comic
Convention and, in wandering about the dealers floor, I suddenly felt an
inexplicable chill (these cons are in the dead of summer). I looked to my
right and there, seated in a very expensively designed booth, were six
darkly clad, lanky figures, pale of face, wearing designer shades and
looking altogether the epitome of cool. They radiated cool. We're talking
the post-cyberpunkiest cool of which mortal man can conceive.
Man, they were cool! And they were the vanguard of Disney's impending,
comics-industry-revolutionizing Touchmark imprint.
I wonder whatever happened to those six cool guys?
SHAUN:
>Why don't Gladstone's colorists color in the Ducks' mouths and
>feet-bottoms inside the comic like they do on the covers?
Tradition. Western Publishing didn't color the ducks that way on the
inside, and Gladstone picked up the practice. Too, while there are readers
like you who like the enhanced detail, we've heard from others who've
called it the ducks-with-dirty-feet syndrome. When there's no clear-cut
choice about how to do something (and there are darn few clear-cut choices
in this business), we go with what we think works best.
Gary
Convention and, in wandering about the dealers floor, I suddenly felt an
inexplicable chill (these cons are in the dead of summer). I looked to my
right and there, seated in a very expensively designed booth, were six
darkly clad, lanky figures, pale of face, wearing designer shades and
looking altogether the epitome of cool. They radiated cool. We're talking
the post-cyberpunkiest cool of which mortal man can conceive.
Man, they were cool! And they were the vanguard of Disney's impending,
comics-industry-revolutionizing Touchmark imprint.
I wonder whatever happened to those six cool guys?
SHAUN:
>Why don't Gladstone's colorists color in the Ducks' mouths and
>feet-bottoms inside the comic like they do on the covers?
Tradition. Western Publishing didn't color the ducks that way on the
inside, and Gladstone picked up the practice. Too, while there are readers
like you who like the enhanced detail, we've heard from others who've
called it the ducks-with-dirty-feet syndrome. When there's no clear-cut
choice about how to do something (and there are darn few clear-cut choices
in this business), we go with what we think works best.
Gary
Shaun M. Knowler
Mis-translated quackings
Message 244 -
1996-09-20 at 03:05:35
MARCO:
In the original "Land of the Pygmy Indians", Donald, just coming out of
the sturgeon's mouth is saying: "Ho-hum, all in the day's work!".
Quite similar to what you predicted.
-Shaun
In the original "Land of the Pygmy Indians", Donald, just coming out of
the sturgeon's mouth is saying: "Ho-hum, all in the day's work!".
Quite similar to what you predicted.
-Shaun
Dave Rawson
Credit where credit's due redux
Message 245 -
1996-09-20 at 04:33:28
Dwight Decker:
DD> I have to wonder if those editors in Holland aren't right.
DD> The readers in general don't care about _who_ writes and draws
DD> the stories; they're only interested in funny stories about
DD> Donald and Mickey.
I'd say it boils down to a matter of respect; an acknowledgement of the
creator. Books show the author. Movies and TV have credits. Magazine
articles are credited. Newspaper columns have by-lines. (Heck, even the
local barflys who do an "Eatin' Out with George" get credit.) Why
shouldn't Disney character comics creators get the respect they deserve?
It's takes up so *little* space to do it.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
DD> I have to wonder if those editors in Holland aren't right.
DD> The readers in general don't care about _who_ writes and draws
DD> the stories; they're only interested in funny stories about
DD> Donald and Mickey.
I'd say it boils down to a matter of respect; an acknowledgement of the
creator. Books show the author. Movies and TV have credits. Magazine
articles are credited. Newspaper columns have by-lines. (Heck, even the
local barflys who do an "Eatin' Out with George" get credit.) Why
shouldn't Disney character comics creators get the respect they deserve?
It's takes up so *little* space to do it.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
Geir J. Netland
Disney comics Digest V96 #203
Message 246 -
1996-09-20 at 15:29:53
DON R:
> weeks)... is Ludwig Von Drake a regular character in the Egmont
> (non-Italian) stories?
I don't recall seeing Ludwig VD since your/Barks' RATT story (DD&co 8/93)
But I may be wrong.....
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Geir J. Netland
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| So, you're *scared*, eh? Well |
| these *roosters* aren't chicken! |
| Er...um...Sure they're *chicken* |
| but not *chicken* chickens! |
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> weeks)... is Ludwig Von Drake a regular character in the Egmont
> (non-Italian) stories?
I don't recall seeing Ludwig VD since your/Barks' RATT story (DD&co 8/93)
But I may be wrong.....
---------------
Geir J. Netland
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| So, you're *scared*, eh? Well |
| these *roosters* aren't chicken! |
| Er...um...Sure they're *chicken* |
| but not *chicken* chickens! |
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http://www.misjonshs.no:80/~geinet
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Wilmer Rivers
Ludwig von Drake in Europe
Message 247 -
1996-09-20 at 16:27:30
Don (wasn't it?) asked whether Ludwig von Drake is a character who is
much used in Europe. If he is used there, I'd like to know why. Ludwig
is just an animated version (created for the Disney TV show, right?) of
comedian Sid Caesar's famous "Old Professor" character, who was a
staple of American TV in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Pretty much
everything about Ludwig - his facial expressions, his clothes, his
absent-minded behavior - is copied from Sid Caesar. Since the "Old
Professor" character was a US television character, I doubt that the
character of Ludwig would have much meaning to Europeans who hadn't
seen Sid Caesar's original version. It would therefore seem unlikely
that Ludwig would be very popular there, since he would have to be taken
out of his native context of the culture of American television. So if
he is in fact widely used in Europe, then why is that?
Wilmer Rivers
much used in Europe. If he is used there, I'd like to know why. Ludwig
is just an animated version (created for the Disney TV show, right?) of
comedian Sid Caesar's famous "Old Professor" character, who was a
staple of American TV in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Pretty much
everything about Ludwig - his facial expressions, his clothes, his
absent-minded behavior - is copied from Sid Caesar. Since the "Old
Professor" character was a US television character, I doubt that the
character of Ludwig would have much meaning to Europeans who hadn't
seen Sid Caesar's original version. It would therefore seem unlikely
that Ludwig would be very popular there, since he would have to be taken
out of his native context of the culture of American television. So if
he is in fact widely used in Europe, then why is that?
Wilmer Rivers
Terje Sommerstad
Sideways printing
Message 248 -
1996-09-20 at 18:02:06
JONATHAN:
I agree with you about the sideways printing of Mickey Mouse strips in
"Comics and Stories". I know many others disagree with me, but if I could
choose between a "butchered" layout or the current miniature printing I
would definitely choose the butchered one. I wish Gladstone could print the
Gottfredson classics the way they used to in their first run only with
today's better paper.
Also, the serialization of particularly Rosa's (originally non-serialized)
stories is not my taste, but I guess they sell more copies that way. Is it
true they're going monthly now?
-terje
I agree with you about the sideways printing of Mickey Mouse strips in
"Comics and Stories". I know many others disagree with me, but if I could
choose between a "butchered" layout or the current miniature printing I
would definitely choose the butchered one. I wish Gladstone could print the
Gottfredson classics the way they used to in their first run only with
today's better paper.
Also, the serialization of particularly Rosa's (originally non-serialized)
stories is not my taste, but I guess they sell more copies that way. Is it
true they're going monthly now?
-terje
Harry Fluks
AW: WDC&S 605
Message 249 -
1996-09-20 at 18:41:12
JONATHAN:
> This issue claims that the "Monsterville" story (OS 1184) was written and
> drawn by Barks. However, I think your database lists that Barks only drew it
> and did not write it.
Barks wrote all Gyro stories he drew, except the ones in OS 1025 and OS 1184.
So maybe Gladstone got confused. That happens (too) often, these days...
--Harry.
> This issue claims that the "Monsterville" story (OS 1184) was written and
> drawn by Barks. However, I think your database lists that Barks only drew it
> and did not write it.
Barks wrote all Gyro stories he drew, except the ones in OS 1025 and OS 1184.
So maybe Gladstone got confused. That happens (too) often, these days...
--Harry.
Jaki Ellenby
EGN, ERO and future French fanzine, from Didier
Message 250 -
1996-09-20 at 19:35:46
Hi !
ARTHUR:
the ERO is the equivalent of Disney Consumer Products Europe. Here is its
address and phone number:
50, Avenue Montaigne
75378 Paris Cedex 8
phone: 33-1-53-75-50-50
This is where Ulrich Schroder works.
The European Graphics Novels, I think, but this I will have to check with Ulrich
when he comes back from South America, are supervised by ERO but actually
produced in Spain by the Comicup studio.
OLE:
Yes I did mention that I was planning a bilingual fanzine about animation and
comics (mainly Disney but not only -like we could interview Nick Park or Uderzo)
to be produced with Pascal Pierrey of Picsou Magazine fame in the "near future"
(yek, yek :-). The plan has not been cancelled at all. In fact, the first issue
is close to ready in terms of the texts. We had planned to release it around
October. Unfortunately (in fact in that case it should be FORTUNATELY, I found a
fabulous job at DIsneyland Paris - fascinating but also with very, very long
days of work). So now, the planned release date is December. Any member of the
list that will want to receive the first issue free will. I will tell you more
when we come close to completion of that issue.
ALL:
Does anyone has links with the club Donaldisten in Norway ? I am desesperately
trying to become a member and to buy some items they are selling but I have
already sent 2 or three letters and they don't answer. Can anybody help ?
Didier Ghez
ARTHUR:
the ERO is the equivalent of Disney Consumer Products Europe. Here is its
address and phone number:
50, Avenue Montaigne
75378 Paris Cedex 8
phone: 33-1-53-75-50-50
This is where Ulrich Schroder works.
The European Graphics Novels, I think, but this I will have to check with Ulrich
when he comes back from South America, are supervised by ERO but actually
produced in Spain by the Comicup studio.
OLE:
Yes I did mention that I was planning a bilingual fanzine about animation and
comics (mainly Disney but not only -like we could interview Nick Park or Uderzo)
to be produced with Pascal Pierrey of Picsou Magazine fame in the "near future"
(yek, yek :-). The plan has not been cancelled at all. In fact, the first issue
is close to ready in terms of the texts. We had planned to release it around
October. Unfortunately (in fact in that case it should be FORTUNATELY, I found a
fabulous job at DIsneyland Paris - fascinating but also with very, very long
days of work). So now, the planned release date is December. Any member of the
list that will want to receive the first issue free will. I will tell you more
when we come close to completion of that issue.
ALL:
Does anyone has links with the club Donaldisten in Norway ? I am desesperately
trying to become a member and to buy some items they are selling but I have
already sent 2 or three letters and they don't answer. Can anybody help ?
Didier Ghez
Gerry Tank
Translations
Message 251 -
1996-09-20 at 21:28:54
This may be an appropriate time to relate another story about translations,
since the subject has been brought up about the Junior Woodchucks. My
daughter received a copy of The Best of Uncle Scrooge for Xmas 1979. It is
my understanding that these were comics that had been published in Italy,
translated from the English. I took the book to CB to get his autograph for
my daughter and got more than that. He tells me that these were originally
translated from English to Italian and then republished in the US and
retranslated from Italian to English--with obvious deviations from the
originals. For what it's worth!
since the subject has been brought up about the Junior Woodchucks. My
daughter received a copy of The Best of Uncle Scrooge for Xmas 1979. It is
my understanding that these were comics that had been published in Italy,
translated from the English. I took the book to CB to get his autograph for
my daughter and got more than that. He tells me that these were originally
translated from English to Italian and then republished in the US and
retranslated from Italian to English--with obvious deviations from the
originals. For what it's worth!
TKlein28
Disney comics Digest V96 #204
Message 252 -
1996-09-20 at 22:06:02
GARY:
Enjoyed your memory of the Disney Touchmark crew at San Diego. Though I
wasn't there, I did work with editor Art Young to develop a Touchmark logo,
and logos for about 5 comics series. Disney hired Art away from DC to develop
an adult comics line, but when they saw what they were getting, I guess they
changed their mind(s)(?). Art brought most of the projects to DC-Vertigo,
where they were eventually published.
Todd
Enjoyed your memory of the Disney Touchmark crew at San Diego. Though I
wasn't there, I did work with editor Art Young to develop a Touchmark logo,
and logos for about 5 comics series. Disney hired Art away from DC to develop
an adult comics line, but when they saw what they were getting, I guess they
changed their mind(s)(?). Art brought most of the projects to DC-Vertigo,
where they were eventually published.
Todd
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #204
Message 253 -
1996-09-20 at 22:39:26
TO ALL, RE DISNEY "POLICY":
In my ten years of experience (Yi! Has it been ten years?), Disney's
policies have been a miasma of letters, phone calls, meetings, memos, legal
documents, casual opinions, bad sushi, and mood swings, all swirling around
each other and taking infinite forms for infinite reasons. I have no idea
if any of this ever actually gets compiled and run through Disney legal to
come out the other end as formal policy statements. Last thing I saw even
vaguely of this nature was over six years ago, and very little of it
applied to Gladstone in any case.
OLE:
>The upcoming collecting card game expansion for Magic, Mirage, has
>introduced another batch of new artists. I recognized the names of
>John Bolton - he did some fillers for Classic X-Men - and Gary Leach!
>Presumably this is you...
That's not me, though I wouldn't mind if it was. That Gary Leach (sometimes
spelled Garry) is from Britain, and, IMHO, quite a talented guy.
GARY BROWN:
We do change paper stocks according to printers and pricing, but never in
the middle of printing a particular issue. If you see differences in stock
between two copies of the same issue, it wasn't our doing.
Gary
In my ten years of experience (Yi! Has it been ten years?), Disney's
policies have been a miasma of letters, phone calls, meetings, memos, legal
documents, casual opinions, bad sushi, and mood swings, all swirling around
each other and taking infinite forms for infinite reasons. I have no idea
if any of this ever actually gets compiled and run through Disney legal to
come out the other end as formal policy statements. Last thing I saw even
vaguely of this nature was over six years ago, and very little of it
applied to Gladstone in any case.
OLE:
>The upcoming collecting card game expansion for Magic, Mirage, has
>introduced another batch of new artists. I recognized the names of
>John Bolton - he did some fillers for Classic X-Men - and Gary Leach!
>Presumably this is you...
That's not me, though I wouldn't mind if it was. That Gary Leach (sometimes
spelled Garry) is from Britain, and, IMHO, quite a talented guy.
GARY BROWN:
We do change paper stocks according to printers and pricing, but never in
the middle of printing a particular issue. If you see differences in stock
between two copies of the same issue, it wasn't our doing.
Gary
Jakob Söderbaum
Disney comics Digest V96 #201
Message 254 -
1996-09-20 at 23:30:33
Howdy, folks!
HARALD:
>>> Speaking of Gyro - dont you all agree that Doc Brown in "Back to the
>>> Future" was heavily based on him?
>> No. Maybe a *little*, but he's just the "Mad Scientist" we all love to see
>> in movies.
>
> Yeah - but he has a think-cap kind of gadget with blinking lights on
> his head upon first appearance (in his 50ies self I mean) which seems
> like direct a Barks-ripp-off to me...
Did Gyro ever use a thinking-cap in a Barks-story?? I can only think of
*Strobl's* "roof" with the crows at the moment...
DWIGHT (Black 'n') DECKER:
> Uh oh! Trouble ahead! The Scandihoovians are telling insulting
> ethnic jokes about each other!
Yeepers! WWIII is ahead!!!! ;-)
I was only defending my/our breed...
See ya!
---
Greetings from J a k o b
HARALD:
>>> Speaking of Gyro - dont you all agree that Doc Brown in "Back to the
>>> Future" was heavily based on him?
>> No. Maybe a *little*, but he's just the "Mad Scientist" we all love to see
>> in movies.
>
> Yeah - but he has a think-cap kind of gadget with blinking lights on
> his head upon first appearance (in his 50ies self I mean) which seems
> like direct a Barks-ripp-off to me...
Did Gyro ever use a thinking-cap in a Barks-story?? I can only think of
*Strobl's* "roof" with the crows at the moment...
DWIGHT (Black 'n') DECKER:
> Uh oh! Trouble ahead! The Scandihoovians are telling insulting
> ethnic jokes about each other!
Yeepers! WWIII is ahead!!!! ;-)
I was only defending my/our breed...
See ya!
---
Greetings from J a k o b
Jakob Söderbaum
Disney comics Digest V96 #202
Message 255 -
1996-09-20 at 23:30:47
Hi, again!
DON R.:
> What did you mean that we who "work for the syndicate" are the ones who need
> to cut Gladstone some slack?
You also said something like "which everyone should", and I just said that
we can only help *you* guys with "cutting them that slack".
> I think Jonathan gave the best answer about those look-alike munchkins in
> that story that Kriton asked me the question about (which I misunderstood).
> As he said, elves are not a big letter-writing contingent or political force
> in America, so big corporations don't need to worry about offending them.
So where in America can I find pygmy injuns?? I want to know for my future
trip...
Er.. it was not a question for you, it was rather for someone to ask Disney
someday...
> It sounds like you thought the objection was that all the funnybook characters
> looked alike. The worry was that all the ETHNIC characters looked alike.
What about the PlainAwfultonians? I believe they're just as common as pygmy
injuns, btw...
See ya!
---
Greetings from J a k o b
DON R.:
> What did you mean that we who "work for the syndicate" are the ones who need
> to cut Gladstone some slack?
You also said something like "which everyone should", and I just said that
we can only help *you* guys with "cutting them that slack".
> I think Jonathan gave the best answer about those look-alike munchkins in
> that story that Kriton asked me the question about (which I misunderstood).
> As he said, elves are not a big letter-writing contingent or political force
> in America, so big corporations don't need to worry about offending them.
So where in America can I find pygmy injuns?? I want to know for my future
trip...
Er.. it was not a question for you, it was rather for someone to ask Disney
someday...
> It sounds like you thought the objection was that all the funnybook characters
> looked alike. The worry was that all the ETHNIC characters looked alike.
What about the PlainAwfultonians? I believe they're just as common as pygmy
injuns, btw...
See ya!
---
Greetings from J a k o b