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Don Rosa wrote:
> Anyway, I was looking over a letter from a Greek Duckfan who, like all real
> Duckfans, reads the Disney comics of his own country PLUS the Gladstones.

Oh no, I'm not a real Duckfan. :-)
I usually don't read new Swedish Disney comics, *and* recently I've
cancelled all my Gladstone subscriptions as well. :-)

> Also: I noticed my last posting that appeared in the previous Digest seemed
> to have odd line-breaks in the sentences. I'm not sure why the computer did
> that -- I'll see if that happens again before I try to fix it...

That's because of my recent fix for accented characters. That digest
contained accented characters and thus it was sent with so-called
quoted-printables. That will also cut long lines and do some other
stuff though, so I will probably reconsider and remove it.

Hi!

The second Dutch album featuring another three episodes of Don's
"Life of Scrooge" came out today. Beautiful cover, although it seems
to me that they again redrew the whole thing! Last time Pieter said
that they had to redraw some parts of Don's cover because they made
poor scans of the original Gladstone-covers, but now it looks like they
really erased all the irritating details on purpose! But ... that's okay,
because I like the album anyway!
And ofcourse, I've already sent one issue to you, Don! :-)

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney

On Sep 12, 2:36pm, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote:
> Subject: Re: Danish Anders And

> You could try Pegasus (Nansensgade 30 in Copenhagen - 33 32 56 50).
>
Hey, Jacob! I know that store! You took me there when I was
in Copenhagen last November! I pawed through stacks and
stacks of comics (while my lady traveling companion looked
excruciatingly bored), and I think you bought a hardcover
comics collection of Donald-as-Superduck stories. All I can
say is, if that place doesn't have what our Icelandic friend
is looking for, nobody does, because it looked like it had
_everything_. I bought a used copy of the Danish album reprinting
Marco Rota's Life of Donald there...

--Dwight Decker

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BENT:

> The story is D93039 from AA 6/95 (yes, I'm a bit behind on my AA-
> reading).
> It is a nice little story made even better by the fact that we know "the
> original". The index has no info on the creators on the story.

The story was written by Kurt Behnke (never hear of him), and drawn by
Esteban.

This reminds me that a while ago, MIKE asked:

> Any clue as to when the "Pizen Bluff" story will be published?

This story is scheduled for the weeklies #52, 1996 and #1 / #2, 1997.

--Harry.

Hi, folks.

I m writing from Daghstul, my first stop during my move to Berlin, that
I ll hit next week.
Colder than I thought but, besides that, the spirit is still hish, so...
let s move to another topic, and let me offer my advice on some hot
subjects from the latest few digests.

Jacob wrote:

>Nobody seems to have mentioned "The Hunt for the Star Circle" (my, not very
>good, translation). It is split up in 12 parts (I 1780 - I 1791), that were
>published in two Jumbo Books (117 & 118). The total page count is 347 pages
>(3-tier) equivalent to approximately 260 pages in the ordinary Disney format.
>
>It's a story, where U$, DD and MM (and the rest of the crew) cooperates to
>collect the twelve pieces of the "Star Circle".

By Massimo de Vita: a nice story. Did you notice if by chance some pages
are not well reproduced... Well, at least this is what happened in the
latest Italian edition. As far as I know, this is due to the fact that the
publisher completely destroyed the proofs of the weekly, containing the
infamous `I married a Witch story: A spoof of `Bewitched , where in a
dream MM gets married. A nice story, even if a little over the edge (ask
privately for the most intriguing details... :-)

Gary wrote:

>JAN:
>
>> Were the Indian tribe-related strips part of the 1938-1941 run? I had a
>>quick look through the Danish collections of Taliaferro dailies and couldn'=
>t
>>find them anywhere.
>
>There was a run of strips in 1938 depicting an Indian tribe that Disney
>found risky, and would not approve for reprinting. This might had something
>to do with their absence in the Danish collections, though my impression
>has long been that overseas Disney publishers operate in a different
>approval arena from Gladstone (which casts envious eyes=8A), especially when
>it comes to depictions of Native Americans.

Well, I have not my collection handy :-), but that story must have been
reprinted also quite recently at least a couple of times in Italy, in the
massive reprinting of the whole Gottfredson run done by Mondadori and Comic
Art. If you are interested, I could find a copy.

David wrote:

> FABIO:
> Is Martina the fellow who often had Scrooge chase Donald with a
>shotgun? (Sorry to pin that on someone who wrote a great story like "The
>Blot's Double Mystery"! ;-)

Yes, that s him. Actually, you know that in general the Italian version of
Disney characters usually is much more violent than ther American-Danish
one. This happens for all the writers, but it is expecially true for the
late Martina. As it was already pointed out in an old Barks Collector by a
think Ulrich Schroeder, also the ethic of the ducks became more and more
questionable during the late Seventies-early Eighties. You know, that was
around the time when both Martina and Gentilini (the editor of the weekly
since its inception, back to the Forties) were retiring, and the production
values were kind of slippings down...

About the question of credits (Arthr, Pieter, Mike, etc...)

The Italian solution is quite reasonable: in the weekly the print at the
bottom of the splash page of each story (in really small letters) the name
of the authors. While instead in the more-adult oriented (like the monthly
Zio Paperone) they usually hype the creators, with articles, interviews,
etc, in order to be marketable towards the knowledgeable readers. A good
compromise, in my opinion...

(Boy, I m actually writing a positive thing about Disney Italy... :-)

Still Mike (I think)

> ANYONE FROM ITALY:
> Didier also showed me two of the new PK-comics. Whoa ... they REALLY
>look amazing! What beautiful artwork. It isn't really Disney, but I sure think
>they will be very popular. I know that these were only test issues, but does
>anyone know yet if they will continue publishing this title in Italy?
> Talking about Didier:

Well, to be honest, I do not think that it is so terrific. Besides not
being Disneysque, I think the artwork could still improve. I think it is
worthwhile, anyhow, even if It could give rise to some considerations: why
to chase the superhero market in Italy, which is a small fraction of the
traditional market for Disney comics? Oh, well, as usual, I ll reply to
private inquiries... :-)

Jacob added:

>Somebody asked about Superduck ("DD as a super hero"). _The_ comic book about
>Superduck (at least in Danish) is "Den store Staland". It' is an 30*40 cm
>200-300 page hardcover book with the first stories about Superduck. I think
>it is availiable in Italian as well.
>A sligthly cheaper and more handy choice is Jumbobog 28: "Stalanden Anders"
>(10*15 cm, 256? pages). This one must be availiable in German and Italian as
>well.

Well, this is a tricky question. Actually, there are TWO magazines in Italy
devoted to Paperinik. The first one is simply called `Paperinik , and it
has the usual digest size. The other is `PK New Adventures : it has the
american comic book size, and it is the one to whom Mike was referring to.

Finally, Jan wrote:

>MIKE:
> On the subject of multiple money bins: I read a story in the Danish "Anders
>And Ekstra" years ago that starts out with Scrooge and Donald overlooking a
>number of bins, all of them filled to the bursting point. Scrooge complains
>that he has nowhere to store his money. When Donald asks him why he doesn't
>just build yet another bin, Scrooge throws a fit and says "It'll cost MONEY to
>build another bin".
> In another story, printed in the Danish Jumbo's, Scrooge built two
>additional bins and lived as well as ran business from them under made up
>identities - to reduce income taxation. As a consequence Scrooge *became* each
>of these personalities for a third of the day. In the end Donald had to hit him
>over the head (using a huge croquet mallet) to restore his sanity.
> Don't know who wrote/drew the stories as I read them in my youth when I
>didn't really care about identities of artists as long as I had my weekly shot
>of Disney comics. :)

I have the feeling that both stories are Italian. Is there any other disney
addict from Italy out there? (Btw: hi, Frank! I swear I ll send you an
e-mail asap. And thank you very much for the nice photos and the really too
kind words...)

Still Jan:

>FABIO:
> I remember reading the huge harcover volumes reprinting the Taliaferro
>strips at the local library when I was a kid. They were either in "Den Store
>Rip, Rap og Rup" (We, HDL) or in "365 dage med Anders And" (365 days of Donald
>Duck). Unfortunately most of the hardcovers have become collectors items in
>Denmark. As a consequence they are so expensive that you almost need to take a
>second morgage on the house to be able to afford them - that is, if you can
>find them at all.

Again, In Italy they are not so expensive, since they have been reprinted
some times. I think around 100 DeutchMarks in mint condition, if you d ever
get interested...

Last but not least, a small remark on Gianfranco

>ARTHUR DE WOLF said:
>" One of the most flourishing publications markets is in fact Europe...
>Italy's weekly "Topolino" sometimes sells over one million
>copies per WEEK, in summer periods. Usually it is less than that, say 600-800
>thousand, but it has passed the 1 million mark a few times! "
>
>Well, sorry but it's not exact... Disney publishes 1.000.000 copies in
>summer, and about 600.000 in all other weeks, but it does not sell them all!
>Yes, Topolino is always one of the most read weekly magazines for boys in
>Italy
(...)
>but Topolino now is not so good (really NOT so good) and Disney >sells
>less and >less, it seems...
>Obviously Disney will not so easily admit it, because of the advertising
>market: if you publish 600.000 copies you can ask some money for a page, but
>if you tell me that you sell only half, I would like to pay only half... So.
>May be you have to cut half: 300.000 copies are sold, this could be more exact.
>Just to make clear. It's always a good number.

Well, it is an incredible number, to sell so many copies each week, not to
mention about all the other (mainly reprints) titles. But yes, there is too
much "marketing & merchandising" in these times: also this kind could give
rise to many sad considerations...

Well, I already bothered all of you too much.

Best regards to you all (Berlin, here I come),

Fabio `playing it safe Gadducci

Mike Prochaska
3331 elmdale rd.
glenview, il 60025

JOACHIM:
Oh, yeah... that was my deceased form in that SPIRIT story. I'd forgotten
about that'n. There're probably other instances where I've personally
appeared in a funnybook which I've also forgotten. I haven't been a
"pro-fesh-unnel" that long, but I've been very active in American comics
"fandom" for 25+ years, which is as much as I ever thought I'd have to do
with the things.

PER:
I wasn't really suggesting all Disney comics fans HAD to get the
Gladstones... I was just trying to pay them my usual compliments for the
hard work they put into trying to produce a quality product despite all the
facts and forces in America that are lined up to discourage them.

HARRY:
Thanks, as always... but I'm trying to find ways to take that pesky job off
your over-generous shoulders.