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Michael Naiman
BYRON:
Any clue as to when the "Pizen Bluff" story will be published?
Deckerd
On Sep 10, 10:14am, Ole R. Nielsen wrote:
> Subject: Re: last weeks digests

> DWIGHT DECKER (a.k.a. Robert F. Decker: care to explain?)

I think you have me confused with my evil twin. (Actually,
quite a few years ago, I had some notion of changing my
name from the rather uncommon "Dwight" to the more common
"Robert," and I used it a couple of places as a sort of
quasi-pseudonym. It just didn't seem to stick and I soon
abandoned the idea, only for it to come back and haunt me now
and then.)

> > Oh, happy happy joy joy! I just got the 5 September
> > (36/96) issue of Anders And (the weekly Danish Donald
> > Duck comic book), and the first story I sold to Egmont
> > is in it! It's just a one-page Beagle Boys gag (D95191),
>
> A little more room to show off your skills would probably have
> helped - that gag could have been done as a _cover_. More to come I
hope.
>
As a cover? I'm not sure how. I had trouble cramming it into one
page, and had to do things like showing the Beagles on kitchen
duty to start with so they'd be in a place where they could bake
a cake without having to spend a panel or two getting them there.
Incidentally, I wasn't sure if the file-in-the-cake cliche was as
familiar to Europeans as it is to us, so before I submitted it
Egmont, I had some idea of getting in touch with Vic Lockman about
drawing it and submitting it on spec to Gladstone, if Egmont
bounced it. Fortunately for me (and unfortunately for Vic),
that wasn't necessary.
I also hope more to come, and a couple of other stories are
written, sold, drawn, and awaiting publication.

> Is this the first script you've had published? 'Script' here used in
the
> European sense of the word :) And you started working for Egmont in
1993?
>
Egmont's had me do editorial and translation-type stuff up to now.
This was the first story I thunk up and wrote entirely on my
own as a kreative jeenius in my own right.

--Dwight Decker
Deckerd
On Sep 10, 8:56am, (Email removed) wrote:

> Incidentally, I wasn't sure if the file-in-the-cake cliche was as
> familiar to Europeans as it is to us, so before I submitted it
> Egmont, I had some idea of getting in touch with Vic Lockman about
> drawing it and submitting it on spec to Gladstone, if Egmont
> bounced it. Fortunately for me (and unfortunately for Vic),
> that wasn't necessary.

Oh darn. I just realized in reading this over that I'd better
clarify something I wrote in haste. That "fortunately" sounds
like it could be interpreted as a dig at Gladstone, and it
certainly wasn't intended that way. What I meant was that I
wasn't sure if the file-in-the-cake gag was just too much of
an American cliche for the European market. If Egmont had
rejected the gag for being too American, the obvious recourse
would be to sell it to an American market. However, I knew
what the drill was for selling material to Egmont. To sell
something to Gladstone...I didn't know if they were even
buying original material or what the procedure for it was.
Selling the story to Egmont in the first place made everything
simpler for me. Gladstone, of course, may have different thoughts
about it... I apologize for any wrong impressions I may have
given.

--Dwight Decker
Kriton Kyrimis
Don Rosa wrote:

> This time I'm looking for Duckburg landmarks that you might
> see in or from the city, besides, of course, the Money Bin.

How about the following:

* The "big T-shaped something on the waterfront" from "The Firebug"
(DD FC 108, page 10, panels 8 and 9).
* The "science hall for the Junior Woodchucks of the World" from a 10-pager
in WDC&S 221, page 1, panel 1.
* For something really obscure, try the "Akin Bones Hospital" and the "Boiler
Factory" from a 10-pager in WDC&S 175 (page 6, panels 1 and 4 for the
former, page 8, panel 8 for the latter). The reason these are obscure is
that one has to have seen the art that Barks removed from the story
(set IX of the Carl Barks Library, vol.1, pages 117-118) to know what
they are.
--
Kriton(e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"Who am I to argue with me?"
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Jakob Söderbaum
Hi!
This is the long awaited (hmm.. maybe not!) "Return of Jakob" message. Skip
this part if you don't want to read what kind of foolishness this Duck-maniac
is writing this time... ;-)

> Contents:
> Greg Wright
> Augie De Blieck Jr.
> Frank Fabian
> Ole R. Nielsen
> Jaki Ellenby
> Don Rosa
> (Email removed)
> (Email removed)
> Arthur de Wolf
> Joachim Butz
> Per Starback
> Stefan Printz-Pahlson

I can see there's been lots of new subscribers since I were here last time.

However:

TO ALL OF YOU WHO STILL RECOGNIZE MY NAME:

Hi! I'm back, did you miss me? ;-)

TO THE REST WHO DOESN'T:

Hi! I'm Jakob Soederbaum. Short info about me: I love Duck-comics.

STEFAN PRINTZ-PAHLSON:

Hi! Do *you* recognize me? You should, because I'm the one who video-recorded
the seminar ("Sa Gor Vi KA & C:o Idag") at Svenska Massan in Goteborg 1994,
of which you bought several copies... ;-)

ARTHUR deWOLF:

Hiya, Wolfie! I'm glad to see that at least *you're* around of the Dutchmen!

NORWEGIANS:

Is there any Norwegian around who can supply me with a copy each of your
Donald Duck weekly no. 8/93 and 26/96?????? Please E-mail me.

Answers to the latest digest:

GREG WRIGHT:

> When I lamented the lack of Duck items she said it
> was because Donald "was only a secondary character"!
> Can anyone point me in the direction of some facts and figures that I can
> use to argue my case? Or is this the attitude of Disney Stores worldwide and
> I'm doomed to living in just the one T-shirt.

Considering the fact that the Mouse is dominating the Disney-market at most
places outside comicbooks, I must agree with the lady that Donald is only
a secondary character (just read "The Case of the Vanishing Coats" by Floyd
Gottfredson ;-) ). But as the Donaldist I am, I feel forced to say that I
don't even think the Mouse has been as successfull *totally* as the Duck.
At least not in *my* opinion (for whatever it's worth).

AUGIE:

> * WALT DISNEY'S COMICS AND STORIES

Wow! I'd say I missed *something* during my time away from the list!

> "Stranded in Time" by Don Rosa (part 2 of 3)

This must be a new story, right? I don't seem to it's "happened" yet in
Europe? Or has it, but under some other strange title?

> "Plastic Mickey" by Michael T. Gilbert and Caesar Ferioli

I really look forward to read this story in English!

> "Christmas on Bear Mountain" by Carl Barks

Is there any particular reason for including this story in this issue? I'm
not very well updated these days, that's why I'm asking...

DIDIER GHEZ:

Ah, you're the one who's writing an article on Rosa, right? Harry told me
to send you some illustrations, but I haven't had time to look in my files
yet. Are you still interested?

DON ROSA:

You still haven't answered my letter considering your "art-changes" in
"A Matter of Some Gravity". I hope you didn't forget about the matter?
I'm very anxious to know what you think of it...

MIKE RHODE:

> At a going out of business sale, I picked up The Comics Journal #87 which
> had a Rosa cover. It's a very amusing one of a bunch of Marvel-like heroes
> beating up on each other with 3 Stooges-like moves.

I've been looking for this issue. (Where's that Barry Branvold-guy anyway??)
Is it possible for you to find another copy for me?

ARTHUR:

Do you have a homepage?? Why didn't you tell me??! What's the address?

OK, that's all for now!

CUl8er!
---

Greetings from J a k o b
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

JAKOB SOEDERBAUM:
> Do you have a homepage?? Why didn't you tell me??!
Err ... ofcourse I have! I mention it almost every time in all
the letters I write to this list. And you actually gave me Swedish
Disney comics so I could use them for my database. AND I mention the
address in every signature in almost all my messages!

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
GaryB98294
DONALD
For those Donald completists out there, McDonald's currently is selling four
glasses with Disney characters to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Disney
World. This week (second week) has Donald on it. Week one had Mickey. I think
Goofy is next.
Gary Brown
Bradenton, Fla.
Harry Fluks
Per has put the new database files on ftp (I'm sure he'll tell us
exctly where 8-). Here's a summary of the most important new features.

- ITALY: A new version of the Italian index by F. Fossati is included in the
"I-coded.stories" file. Data checking: Marco Marlotti.
Conversion: Frank Stajano.

- USA: Addition of many comics from the Gold Key and Whitman period.
By Jonathan Markoff and Ole Reichstein Nielsen.
Some corrections/additions from a Supergoof index. Per Starback.
Also: addition of the recent Gladstone comics. Mostly by Harry Fluks
and David Gerstein.

- HOLLAND: The complete database of stories produced in Holland from 1980
to 1996 has been included. Data: Pieter van Cleef and Jos Beekman.
Conversion: Harry Fluks.
Also: addition of the recent Dutch comics and double-checking of the Dutch
index (Harry Fluks).

- DENMARK: A lot of additions and error corrections.
By Ole Reichstein Nielsen (partly from Martin Olsen's Det Store Index).

- GERMANY: A lot of additions. By Gilbert Roser.

- SWEDEN: A lot of additions and error corrections. By Lars Olsson, with
contributions by Anders Engwall.

- FINLAND: Addition of an index of the Finnish albums by Henri Sivonen.
Conversion: Harry Fluks.

- The indexes of Frank Jonker, Dave Rawson, David Gerstein, Janet
Gilbert, Jos Beekman, and Byron Erickson have been updated with the
help of the creators theirselves. Also, the Don Rosa index was updated
using input from several people, including Don Rosa.

- Update of the appearing characters in the Gottfredson strips, using an
index by Stefan Schmidt. Sent in by Harald Havas. Conversion: Harry Fluks.

- Various smaller updates and improvements by various members of the
mailing list.

- A lot of new features in the database program, a.o. leading to a more
consistent database. Possibilities to generate output in various
formats (e.g. 132 characters per line, web-pages, ...). More about this
later...

- New (and fewer) abbreviations for creators (writers, artists, etc.)

- The internal files have changed a bit (again), both the format and
the names. (This is not of interest to "normal" database users.)

Thanks to everyone involved!
--Harry.
A8201960
192,193, 194.... 195!!!!

Woah! I did it! I'm here! Wowie-ka-zowie!

What a trip, you should try it sometimes - reading 50+ mailing lists
more or less in a row - really has some impact on your sense of time
and place...

Actually it was only about one month this summer I really couldn't follow
the list on a daily basis - but when i saw the heap of unopened messages
I just kept delaying the start of my reading them all - so the just kept
piling...
However, I did it.

Just a short re-introducktion for new members: I'm an Austrian freelance
journalist and author (non-fiction and comics) who joined this list
around march after an invitation by DRo (KDR? DR? DoRo?) and have
been an active (and talkative) member ever since...

But enough about me and on to some comments etc. (I had lots of
comments spinning in my head while reading all the mails, but there is
no much point adding my two Austrian Schillings to, lets say, digest
# 163...)

WEB PAGES
As some of you may remember, I run my own so called "Comics Corner"
in a local net, where i also answer queastions (*any* questions) about
comics. So, one day somebody DARED me to tell him the names of
Daisy's nieces in German, English and Danish! HA! I just popped over
to your excellent lists, copied the information in all the languages
and loaded my reply with them! Made my day!

ASTERIX
Some of you might not know the original names and their meanings:
- "Asterix" comes from "asterisque" the french name for the "little star"
sign on keyboards
- "Obelix" comes from "obelisque" which is self-explanatory
- The chief is called "Abraracourix" (French members may correct my
spelling) which comes from a french saying "a bras raccouris" (litteral
somebody holding back his arms) - which means somebody who is
likely to get angry very easily.
- The singer ("Troubadix" in German) is called "Assourancetourix" which
comes from "Assourance a tous risques" which means a full insurance
(something you would purchase along a new car)
- The dog's name is "Idefix" which means "fixed idea". The English
translation is one of my favourite transaltions of all time:
"Dogmatix" expressing the same idea (somebody who has a fixed idea is
dogmatic) and including a dog-reference! Beautiful!

DISENEY INTERNATIONAL
I have several foreign Disney publications from strange countries
like the (now defunct) CSSR, Russia, China, Israel - but only single
issues. Is there any point in indexing them for you? Also: most of
them are Egmont anyway so maybe you have a more direct way of getting
this info? Also I wouldn't be able to submit the title of the mags in
most cases anyway...
Speaking of titles I cant read, I also have a picture-book-like
comic-book in Arabian which semms to be traced after Disney
characters - namely Grandma Duck in a Wise Little Hen outfit.
Well, it's a big world after all...

RE: "Disney on Ice"
ROTFL! Woohawhaw! That one had me laughing out loud for quite a
while!!! Hilarious!

Thanks to Don and (lurker) May Martin for welcoming me via mail.

"I'll be back!" were the words of one famous fellow Austrian, well -
I'm back!

cu

Harald

PS: ROTFL is net-slang for "Roll on the floor laughing" BTW, one of
the more meaningful and funny expressions IMHO ;-)
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)

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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #196
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Harry Fluks
Jakob to "ARTHUR deWOLF":
> Hiya, Wolfie! I'm glad to see that at least *you're* around of the
> Dutchmen!

Hey! Who says *we're* not around?

>> "Stranded in Time" by Don Rosa (part 2 of 3)
> This must be a new story, right? I don't seem to it's "happened" yet in
> Europe? Or has it, but under some other strange title?

It's the King Arthur story. It *has* been published in Sweden.

>> "Christmas on Bear Mountain" by Carl Barks
> Is there any particular reason for including this story in this issue?

Maybe because it's Christmas by the time the comic is in the shops? 8-)

--Harry.
Gary Leach
ALL:

Some recent inquiries have been posted as to when particular overseas
stories would appear in Gladstone's Disney comics. I'd be glad to provide
info on that score, when I can. Right now, while license negotiations are
on, it is difficult to say when or where anything is going to appear with
any certainty. I could offer tentative projections, but I've found that
equates with making concrete committments in the minds of certain parties
(I call them The Brain Dead) who won't think twice about badmouthing
Gladstone if they don't work out.

OLE:

"Treasure of Marco Polo" will indeed appear in USA #42, and here's why:
Disney approved it (the "revised" version, that is), with official
signatures and everything. It will actually happen! A pipe dream come true!
Huzzah!

DWIGHT:

Congrats on becoming a published author kinda guy. No matter how many
stories you may have had a role in bringing to the masses, its a whole
different thrill when you see one of your very own stories in print!
By the way, no offense was taken. We're pretty savvy ourselves to the
realities of getting one's Disney comic book stories published.

Gary
Harald Havas
DUCKBURGH-MAP
There is no such beast... What I mean. I dont believe this could be
accomplished, even if you only take Barks as reference.

How about a typical donaldistic theory like: "The Ducks-Star has
unusal matter - sometimes it shifts an floats, changes the appearance
of houses, dislocates parts of citys and adds to them. The facts
are never even mentioned by the inhabitants because they are used to
it. One quick look out of the window every morning, and they know in
which direction they have to head to get to work - with a passing
thought on some new mountain or house that might have popped up
overnight."

Hmmm? Not so far fetched as I recall donaldistic theories... (clouds
and teeth spring to mind)

OLE:
The character-sheets are half-page sized leaves that fit in a map
shipped with German MM 37/96. The art seems new, the star signs are
just a tiny (but interesting) part of them, but you would have to get
a subscription of MM to collect them all...

The Signs seem to fit though - I know one or two things about
astrology - Capricorns being somewhat hardboiled and money-oriented
(Daisy, Scrooge), and Virgos are supposed to walk funny (Goofy)
(haw, haw), Minnie as Gemini would make sense (and make her dearer to my
heart, guess what I am...) Big Bad Wolf is supposedly Taurus
according to this cards: Tauri are supposed to LOVE good meals and
to want to HAVE and KEEP...

SUPERDUCK
Or "Phantomias" as he's called around here (Daisy being "Phantomime")
made for some delightful stories. Enough so, as to be included in an
hardbound special album edition by the Horizont-Verlag, which specializes in
such things, as his own volume (- horrible english construction and
grammar, I'm sure... Hope you got what I mean).
He often pops up (used to) in "Lustige Taschenbuecher", which are
reprinted all the time and lots cheaper...
Short description: Donald wears a mask, a black costume and a (red)
cape. He has no super-powers but uses gadgets thought up by Gyro, the
only one (?) who knows his identity. I liked these stories as a kid
but was bothered by the fact, that Donald was so much more clever and
_acitive_ than usual...

Speaking of Gyro - dont you all agree that Doc Brown in "Back to the
Future" was heavily based on him?

Bye for now!

Harald

--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
Fredrik Ekman
Per wrote, in reply to Arthur:

>if you for some reason want to copy the information instead of using it
>where it is you'd better copy it again several times a month if you want
>to keep up-to-date.

Also, don't credit me. Credit Per or the Disney comics mailing list or
whatever. I took over the list from Per and I have now handed it back.
Scores of other list members have contributed over time.

/F
Don Rosa
I virtually never post anything in this List/Digest except answers to
questions, but here's something that was just brought to my attention that
I'd like to mention:
Having finished up my last story and sent it off to Byron last Thursday,
I've spent all the time since then in answering my snail-mail that I let
pile up on me during projects. I useta' keep up with that on a daily basis,
but now I spend about 2 or so hours per day (!!!) answering the NEW form of
communication -- e-mail -- and that was the time that I used to use for
snail-mail.
Anyway, I was looking over a letter from a Greek Duckfan who, like all real
Duckfans, reads the Disney comics of his own country PLUS the Gladstones.
But this fellow was taking me to task for Gladstone's use of "Of Ducks (and)
Dimes and Destinies" because he said he was surprised that I had messed up
when I had Magica say that she needed $crooge's First Dime because it was
the first coin earned by the world's richest man, and that this was NOT the
reason that was given for the coin's power in Barks' original story of "The
Midas Touch". In that story, Magica did not want the Dime because it was
"lucky" or some other reason of the more recent (European) Duck writing, but
because it would have great power when used in a spell she had discovered
because he, as the world's richest man, had handled it the MOST. Well, this
puzzled me since I knew one of my intentions with that story was expressly
to REINTRODUCE that very concept and do away with any other ideas. I got out
that Gladstone issue (U$ #297), and sure enough, Magica is talking about the
Dime's importance as being only that it was the first coin of the world's
richest man. So I got out my original script, and compared -- and my
dialogue had been changed. Here's the original version:
Page 14-panel 1:"Hmm... the ditchdigger is stiffing Scrooge. I guess I won't
quite see the launching of the financial career that will empower my amulet
when I melt this dime and--"
Panel 2:"!!!"
Panel 3:"What am I doing?! I've INTERCEPTED Scrooge's first dime BEFORE he
gets it! It only has power if Scrooge has handled it all his life!"
Panel 4:"And because I interfered, the ditchdigger left NO coin! That
means... if this dime will ever be of USE to me... if Scrooge ever gets
it..." (And the rest of the dialogue matches the original. You'd need the
Gladstone issue to compare the differences, and if you didn't have it, you
wouldn't care about the discrepancy... and chances are the only people who
DO care are me and one guy in Greece.

Well, that took longer to tell than it was worth, but that's that. I'll try
to get it corrected in future reprints.

Also: I noticed my last posting that appeared in the previous Digest seemed
to have odd line-breaks in the sentences. I'm not sure why the computer did
that -- I'll see if that happens again before I try to fix it...
Per Starback
> Per has put the new database files on ftp (I'm sure he'll tell us
> exctly where 8-).

I goofed up, so they were not available, but now they are.
To find them go to the Disney comics pages (which you all have among
your bookmarks, right?) and choose the "Database" link.

It will take some time before the WWW searches and references to
stories use this new version though.
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