Mike Schneiderath:
You asked about the official map of Duckburg, and this made me think to
put in my two cents on a related matter. One of the things I liked about
the Ducks growing up was their seemingly unbounded milieu. Scrooge to me
was the quintessential Yankee trader, and Donald the flawed Everyman.
Personally, I think what serves the characters, serves the story. Now, I
may be alone in this, but that's how I try to write. I don't expect that
everyone will agree, but I hope I entertain a few folks out there with
my attempts.
Having said all that, I *like* a slightly amorphous arena in which the
characters can interact. One story may take me through that part of
Duckburg which has steep hills, or winding streets, or a magnificent
harbor, or railroad yards, or anything at all!
Regardless, where there is an official map of Duckburg, I hope it allows
Custer's Last (fast food) Stand to suddenly appear where it was never
indicated before, since that's the next 6-page Scrooge story I'm
writing!
This is *not* to say that other creators likely enjoy operating
differntly. Heck, I'm sure we all hope just to bring a little fun to
y'all, and if we do that in different ways, well, that's because we're
different people.
Some folks like meat and potatoes, some lobster and pilaf. Seems to me,
the more to choose from at a buffet, the more fun it is for everyone to
partake.
Ole R. Nielsen:
Thanks for the info on those Jumbo Book stories! For the life of me, I
thought I was going to go blind trying to make out the country code of
that closing story. A less cursive "I" would do wonders (at least for
these old eyes).
Don Rosa:
I have to agree with you when you say, "This is a swell bunch
of folks here!"
Ciao, y'all!
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
Author
Topic: 199609
(378 messages)
Dave Rawson
Canonical versus Archetypal
Message 61 -
1996-09-06 at 03:49:15
Danny Coenen
A few remarks
Message 62 -
1996-09-06 at 08:56:03
Hello everybody!
Lately there has been a lot of language going around this
list that is of a pretty low niveau, in my opinion. I know
that everybody has the right to pretty much write everything
he wants to concerning the topic, and I support that. But,
as we all know, we can`t transmit the tone of a message over
the net, and misunderstandings can occur very easily. The
fact that we are a very international group, which is a great
thing, in my opinion, makes the possibility of such things
even greater. I know, from my own experience that totally
common terms for a European can get you in trouble with an
American, and vice-versa.
It can`t be the point of this list to attack other members
verbally either, no matter the occasion. What would that
lead to? Why don`t we focus on discussing Disney comics
peacefully? That would probably be more enjoyable for
everybody.
DANIEL:
"The Return On the Micro Ducks" was printed in DG 8, which I
received a couple of days ago. Thank you, but you don`t need
to send me a xerox any longer. It is an ok story I think, but
the original is a lot better, IMHO. (Did i use that the right
way now?)
Have a great day everybody!
Danny Coenen
Danny Coenen
Kopernikusstr. 18 Tel. :
(049)2461/56129
D-52428 Juelich
Germany EU e-mail :
(Email removed)
Lately there has been a lot of language going around this
list that is of a pretty low niveau, in my opinion. I know
that everybody has the right to pretty much write everything
he wants to concerning the topic, and I support that. But,
as we all know, we can`t transmit the tone of a message over
the net, and misunderstandings can occur very easily. The
fact that we are a very international group, which is a great
thing, in my opinion, makes the possibility of such things
even greater. I know, from my own experience that totally
common terms for a European can get you in trouble with an
American, and vice-versa.
It can`t be the point of this list to attack other members
verbally either, no matter the occasion. What would that
lead to? Why don`t we focus on discussing Disney comics
peacefully? That would probably be more enjoyable for
everybody.
DANIEL:
"The Return On the Micro Ducks" was printed in DG 8, which I
received a couple of days ago. Thank you, but you don`t need
to send me a xerox any longer. It is an ok story I think, but
the original is a lot better, IMHO. (Did i use that the right
way now?)
Have a great day everybody!
Danny Coenen
Danny Coenen
Kopernikusstr. 18 Tel. :
(049)2461/56129
D-52428 Juelich
Germany EU e-mail :
(Email removed)
Frank Fabian
Donaldist subscription info & something else
Message 63 -
1996-09-06 at 10:07:42
Hi Arthur,
the address for subscribing to Der Donaldist is:
Johny A. Grote, Belvederestrasse 24, D-5093 Koeln, Germany; Phone: +49
221/9472194. Price is DM 28,- for one year (four issues) if you're not a
member of D.O.N.A.L.D., 24,- if you are. The Sonderhefte (specials) have to
be subscribed to separately; inquire about conditions. Some of them are most
likely of very little interest outside of German Duck fandom, but then some
are VERY useful (like e.g. Nr. 27 about Gottfredson - a mouse artist, yet
published by a Duck organisation. Go figure :-)).
HARRY FLUKS:
I read your info concerning the time travel stories' Dutch publication. You
stated that the first Rota story had 44 pages. Does this include a cover? If
not, this means the German printing is missing at least one page, perhaps
more, as both stories in the "Big Fun Comics" have 46 pages, without any cover.
Bye for now,
Frank
****************************************************************************
********
Wuerttembergische Landesbibliothek Frank Fabian
Konrad-Adenauer Str. 8 Tel.: 49-711-212 4383
Abt. Katalogisierung Periodika (KaP) Fax.: 49-711-212 4437
70173 Stuttgart mail:(Email removed)
****************************************************************************
********
the address for subscribing to Der Donaldist is:
Johny A. Grote, Belvederestrasse 24, D-5093 Koeln, Germany; Phone: +49
221/9472194. Price is DM 28,- for one year (four issues) if you're not a
member of D.O.N.A.L.D., 24,- if you are. The Sonderhefte (specials) have to
be subscribed to separately; inquire about conditions. Some of them are most
likely of very little interest outside of German Duck fandom, but then some
are VERY useful (like e.g. Nr. 27 about Gottfredson - a mouse artist, yet
published by a Duck organisation. Go figure :-)).
HARRY FLUKS:
I read your info concerning the time travel stories' Dutch publication. You
stated that the first Rota story had 44 pages. Does this include a cover? If
not, this means the German printing is missing at least one page, perhaps
more, as both stories in the "Big Fun Comics" have 46 pages, without any cover.
Bye for now,
Frank
****************************************************************************
********
Wuerttembergische Landesbibliothek Frank Fabian
Konrad-Adenauer Str. 8 Tel.: 49-711-212 4383
Abt. Katalogisierung Periodika (KaP) Fax.: 49-711-212 4437
70173 Stuttgart mail:(Email removed)
****************************************************************************
********
Anders Engwall
JumboBog 181
Message 64 -
1996-09-06 at 12:35:11
Ole R. Nielsen wrote:
> In that same book is a Mickey Mystery, "The Lady in Blue" (D 94021) in which
> Mickey gets poisoned and tries to find out by what and who, before he dies(!)
> Reminds me of a favorite 'film noir' of mine, "D.O.A.".
And the title even sounds like an archetypal film noir title... Like
a mix between "The Lady in the Lake" and "Blue Dahlia" or something.
> Hardly recovered from the "Runaway Brain" surprise recently, I got a real
> shock when I read Swedish KA #37 the other day. It had Gottfredson's Mickey
> Sunday page from July 10.th _1932_ in it - you can almost hear Uncle Walt's
> squeaky voice! By far the oldest strip ever in a comic book over here.
Well, we *did* get "The Wise Little Hen" in the anniversary issue in
1994, and that one is from 1934.
> Enjoy on Friday,
Hah, I spotted it in the shop this *Thursday*!
>'j{vla svenskara'
Tsk, tsk. "Med plutonium och Gottfredsonstrippar får vi dansken på knä!" :-)
---
Anders Engwall
"Alle man står still som en stum fisk, tills vi hittar den knyckta stångkorven!"
> In that same book is a Mickey Mystery, "The Lady in Blue" (D 94021) in which
> Mickey gets poisoned and tries to find out by what and who, before he dies(!)
> Reminds me of a favorite 'film noir' of mine, "D.O.A.".
And the title even sounds like an archetypal film noir title... Like
a mix between "The Lady in the Lake" and "Blue Dahlia" or something.
> Hardly recovered from the "Runaway Brain" surprise recently, I got a real
> shock when I read Swedish KA #37 the other day. It had Gottfredson's Mickey
> Sunday page from July 10.th _1932_ in it - you can almost hear Uncle Walt's
> squeaky voice! By far the oldest strip ever in a comic book over here.
Well, we *did* get "The Wise Little Hen" in the anniversary issue in
1994, and that one is from 1934.
> Enjoy on Friday,
Hah, I spotted it in the shop this *Thursday*!
>'j{vla svenskara'
Tsk, tsk. "Med plutonium och Gottfredsonstrippar får vi dansken på knä!" :-)
---
Anders Engwall
"Alle man står still som en stum fisk, tills vi hittar den knyckta stångkorven!"
Mike Pohjola
Disney comics Digest V96 #190
Message 65 -
1996-09-06 at 15:03:44
ALL:
Does anybody have an extra copy of Don Rosa's "Son of the Sun"?
I'd really like to have a chance to finally read it..
PIETER:
Do you have Editors' Page in your Monthly or Weekly? I think in
Finland that is the main reason for the popularity of some artists. People
know that when they see a good story unlike they've ever seen before they
write to the Editors' Page and ask his/her name. Thus Don Rosa's name was
published on popular demand four weeks after his first story was published
in the Finnish Aku Ankka. Now, five and a half years later everyone who's
read the comic knows his name and can recognize his stories. And even if
they don't have a subscription, they can see if his name is on the cover
and buy the comic book. And undoubtedly many people have subscriped to Aku
Ankka just because of that. But it's all because of the Editors' Pages and
the publicitation of his name. I'm sure that at least the readers of your
Monthly would appreciate an article now and then that would answer to the
frequently asked questions and such.
DAVID:
I, too, liked the nursery rhyme story. And you used that friend
of Mickey's again. Although this time he seems to have acted more "Goofy"
than in the egg story. But your Mickey is getting better and better. This
story reminded me of an old Taliafferro story about Mickey writing a song.
A good story!
HARRY:
Is there some logical reason for you and the index-readers having
to go through all this "WVH-WHo-WvH-Wil-Hor-WiH-WH" trouble when it would be
easier to just use the whole name? (well, I'm sure there is a reason, but
I'd like to know what it is)
JOACHIM and DON:
Yes, Rosa's Merlin and Arthur did remind me quite a bit of Troubadurix
(Cacofonix) and Carevellix. Somehow I've just always thought that no American
ever read Asterix (don't ask why, I just did).
DINESH:
>the Bhagavad Gita, a clasic Vedic scripture on war etc. contains
>references to things that seem very much like airplanes, flying
>saucers and atomic power! So go figure :)
Really?-o Could you email me some more info about this?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Does anybody have an extra copy of Don Rosa's "Son of the Sun"?
I'd really like to have a chance to finally read it..
PIETER:
Do you have Editors' Page in your Monthly or Weekly? I think in
Finland that is the main reason for the popularity of some artists. People
know that when they see a good story unlike they've ever seen before they
write to the Editors' Page and ask his/her name. Thus Don Rosa's name was
published on popular demand four weeks after his first story was published
in the Finnish Aku Ankka. Now, five and a half years later everyone who's
read the comic knows his name and can recognize his stories. And even if
they don't have a subscription, they can see if his name is on the cover
and buy the comic book. And undoubtedly many people have subscriped to Aku
Ankka just because of that. But it's all because of the Editors' Pages and
the publicitation of his name. I'm sure that at least the readers of your
Monthly would appreciate an article now and then that would answer to the
frequently asked questions and such.
DAVID:
I, too, liked the nursery rhyme story. And you used that friend
of Mickey's again. Although this time he seems to have acted more "Goofy"
than in the egg story. But your Mickey is getting better and better. This
story reminded me of an old Taliafferro story about Mickey writing a song.
A good story!
HARRY:
Is there some logical reason for you and the index-readers having
to go through all this "WVH-WHo-WvH-Wil-Hor-WiH-WH" trouble when it would be
easier to just use the whole name? (well, I'm sure there is a reason, but
I'd like to know what it is)
JOACHIM and DON:
Yes, Rosa's Merlin and Arthur did remind me quite a bit of Troubadurix
(Cacofonix) and Carevellix. Somehow I've just always thought that no American
ever read Asterix (don't ask why, I just did).
DINESH:
>the Bhagavad Gita, a clasic Vedic scripture on war etc. contains
>references to things that seem very much like airplanes, flying
>saucers and atomic power! So go figure :)
Really?-o Could you email me some more info about this?
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #191
Message 66 -
1996-09-06 at 16:06:36
HARRY/ARTHUR/DIDIER:
I just this morning sent a message to Byron asking about how publishers are
supposed to order those single-part story versions, and I see you asking him
the same thing on the List; perhaps I'll see his reply here, or I'll forward
it. Of course, virtually none of those publishers see these lines, so it
won't do much good. That's why I've made the offer to all the publishers I'm
in touch with (and I'm still not sure if I'm "in touch" with BP) that to
greatly simplify the whole matter, whenever they have the photostats of one
of my stories, I'll gladly send them good copies of those two half-pages
plus scripts that they need to turn the thing into a single-parter. But note
that I've never offered to send anyone copies of any of my FULL stories, as
you imply! That is not my bizniz -- I'd get into trouble making that sorta
offer, and there's no reason to anyhow.
What makes it more complex is that now there will be THREE versions of some
of my stories. There currently are two versions of (at least) "The Richest
Duck in the World" (Lo$ #12),& "Guardians of the Lost Library". And soon
there will be three versions of "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad"...a
3-part version, a single-part version, and an extended single-parter when I
add 1-3 pages to it when Gladstone reprints it. I hope to start looking at
ALL my stories when Gladstone reprints them and consider whether I want to
add a page here or there to ease the rushed pacing that those 8-page
chapters often force my overly-complex plots into. How will publishers know
about all these versions? The only way is for me to tell them personally.
Fortunately, most editors of Disney comics that I'm in touch with, such as
in Finland, Greece, Italy, France, Norway and (of course) USA are great
Disney comics fans themselves, and they seem eager to know.
MIKE S.:
There in Germany they ran that Duckburg map as a large insert poster back in
1991. But is there a "canonical" version? Not that I know of, and I hope
not. I'm sure some would think that sounds odd coming from ME... but there
are aspects of the Duck Universe I hold as inviolate fact, and other things
that I like to see as indefinite. I know that Duckburg contains a hill with
a Money Bin, at least one huge Cornelius Coot statue, homes for all the
characters, various normal municipal buildings, etc., and that in the
surrounding area are other landmarks like Demontooth Mtn., the Black Forest,
the ocean, the harbor, etc. again. But I don't want them to be in specified
locations since I may need them ELSEwhere in some story someday. I treat the
interior of $crooge's offices the same way, even though I treat its outside
appearance and the Bin interior as looking a certain way. But that's just MY
vision, and there are loads of other writers and artists working on their
own personal visions of all this, as it should be.
I mentioned recently that I have on hand several Bin diagrams sent in by
avid Duckfans; they also sent incredibly complex maps of Duckburg that fill
many sheets of paper. I think one was close to being (as Steve Wright says
he uses) a full-scale 1:1 map! These are lots of fun... but ultimately
unworkable for any real purpose. Thank gosh.
That's about all the space I should use up. Somebody else explain to Mike
Prochaska how and why Donald Duck comics are about 1000 times more popular
in Europe than are American Disney comics... or any other sort of American
comics. Tell him about how in a country like Norway or Finland, the Donald
Duck weekly is not simply the best-selling comic book, but the best-selling
ANYTHING.
I just this morning sent a message to Byron asking about how publishers are
supposed to order those single-part story versions, and I see you asking him
the same thing on the List; perhaps I'll see his reply here, or I'll forward
it. Of course, virtually none of those publishers see these lines, so it
won't do much good. That's why I've made the offer to all the publishers I'm
in touch with (and I'm still not sure if I'm "in touch" with BP) that to
greatly simplify the whole matter, whenever they have the photostats of one
of my stories, I'll gladly send them good copies of those two half-pages
plus scripts that they need to turn the thing into a single-parter. But note
that I've never offered to send anyone copies of any of my FULL stories, as
you imply! That is not my bizniz -- I'd get into trouble making that sorta
offer, and there's no reason to anyhow.
What makes it more complex is that now there will be THREE versions of some
of my stories. There currently are two versions of (at least) "The Richest
Duck in the World" (Lo$ #12),& "Guardians of the Lost Library". And soon
there will be three versions of "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad"...a
3-part version, a single-part version, and an extended single-parter when I
add 1-3 pages to it when Gladstone reprints it. I hope to start looking at
ALL my stories when Gladstone reprints them and consider whether I want to
add a page here or there to ease the rushed pacing that those 8-page
chapters often force my overly-complex plots into. How will publishers know
about all these versions? The only way is for me to tell them personally.
Fortunately, most editors of Disney comics that I'm in touch with, such as
in Finland, Greece, Italy, France, Norway and (of course) USA are great
Disney comics fans themselves, and they seem eager to know.
MIKE S.:
There in Germany they ran that Duckburg map as a large insert poster back in
1991. But is there a "canonical" version? Not that I know of, and I hope
not. I'm sure some would think that sounds odd coming from ME... but there
are aspects of the Duck Universe I hold as inviolate fact, and other things
that I like to see as indefinite. I know that Duckburg contains a hill with
a Money Bin, at least one huge Cornelius Coot statue, homes for all the
characters, various normal municipal buildings, etc., and that in the
surrounding area are other landmarks like Demontooth Mtn., the Black Forest,
the ocean, the harbor, etc. again. But I don't want them to be in specified
locations since I may need them ELSEwhere in some story someday. I treat the
interior of $crooge's offices the same way, even though I treat its outside
appearance and the Bin interior as looking a certain way. But that's just MY
vision, and there are loads of other writers and artists working on their
own personal visions of all this, as it should be.
I mentioned recently that I have on hand several Bin diagrams sent in by
avid Duckfans; they also sent incredibly complex maps of Duckburg that fill
many sheets of paper. I think one was close to being (as Steve Wright says
he uses) a full-scale 1:1 map! These are lots of fun... but ultimately
unworkable for any real purpose. Thank gosh.
That's about all the space I should use up. Somebody else explain to Mike
Prochaska how and why Donald Duck comics are about 1000 times more popular
in Europe than are American Disney comics... or any other sort of American
comics. Tell him about how in a country like Norway or Finland, the Donald
Duck weekly is not simply the best-selling comic book, but the best-selling
ANYTHING.
Kriton Kyrimis
Gladstone's e-mail?
Message 67 -
1996-09-06 at 21:06:24
Is there an e-mail address with which I could contact Gladstone's subscription
department? I just discovered that they sent me a duplicate Life of Scrooge
#3 album instead of Uncle Scrooge Adventures #5, and cleaning up the mess
would be much easier if it could be done by e-mail, rather than exchanging
letters over the Atlantic.
Thanks,
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Reality might just prove to be out to a very long lunch."
-----
department? I just discovered that they sent me a duplicate Life of Scrooge
#3 album instead of Uncle Scrooge Adventures #5, and cleaning up the mess
would be much easier if it could be done by e-mail, rather than exchanging
letters over the Atlantic.
Thanks,
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Reality might just prove to be out to a very long lunch."
-----
Per Starback
Disney comics Database
Message 68 -
1996-09-06 at 21:58:21
Gerard wrote:
> How about getting the enormous job of adding the publication to the
> database?
Harry answered that the information is there and
> You have probably only seen the WWW pages on Per's site.
Probably. I left out the publications of the stories from the creator
indexes on WWW as I thought they made the indexes so long. If you
want to know more about a particular story, including where it has
been published, just follow that link.
But I realize the "long" index format often is more suitable, so from
now on both formats are available instead. (Maybe the "short" format
is unnecessary?)
Harry about creator abbreviations:
> If I remember well, you were the one that suggested having a threshold.. 8-)
You expect me to be consistent? "I'm great. I contain multitudes."
(Not a Disney comics quote.) :-)
Yes, of course I use your program to make the indexes, so let's
blaim both of us. :-)
No, middle names will not be used in a consistent way, but neither
will other parts of the names, and we will have to settle on a
canonical form of the names anyway. ("Carl Buettner" and not "Carl
Von Buettner" etc.) Most of the time it won't matter much what these
abbrevations are of course, but when it matters I for one think that
"MdM" would be easier than "MMa" to associate with "Merril de Maris",
for example. And there *will* of course be more clashes the less
possible abbreviations there are. If not now, then in the future.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #192
******************************************
> How about getting the enormous job of adding the publication to the
> database?
Harry answered that the information is there and
> You have probably only seen the WWW pages on Per's site.
Probably. I left out the publications of the stories from the creator
indexes on WWW as I thought they made the indexes so long. If you
want to know more about a particular story, including where it has
been published, just follow that link.
But I realize the "long" index format often is more suitable, so from
now on both formats are available instead. (Maybe the "short" format
is unnecessary?)
Harry about creator abbreviations:
> If I remember well, you were the one that suggested having a threshold.. 8-)
You expect me to be consistent? "I'm great. I contain multitudes."
(Not a Disney comics quote.) :-)
Yes, of course I use your program to make the indexes, so let's
blaim both of us. :-)
No, middle names will not be used in a consistent way, but neither
will other parts of the names, and we will have to settle on a
canonical form of the names anyway. ("Carl Buettner" and not "Carl
Von Buettner" etc.) Most of the time it won't matter much what these
abbrevations are of course, but when it matters I for one think that
"MdM" would be easier than "MMa" to associate with "Merril de Maris",
for example. And there *will* of course be more clashes the less
possible abbreviations there are. If not now, then in the future.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #192
******************************************
Diegsan
Diego JIM
Message 69 -
1996-09-06 at 22:30:18
I'm Diego from Argentina. Quiero saber si puedo dar mi opinion en espaniol,
I like the dcomics.
Thank you.
I like the dcomics.
Thank you.
Arthur De Wolf
Disney comics in Europe
Message 70 -
1996-09-06 at 22:31:39
Hi!
DON ROSA said:
> Somebody else explain to Mike Prochaska [...]
What Mike should do is take a look at my website and go to the Europe-section.
There he'll find all the circulation and sales figures of the comics and he
can read amazing stories of how popular Disney comics can be in countries like
Norway and Italy! (the address is in my signature).
One of the most flourishing publications markets is in fact Europe. Here,
Disney magazine publishers create over 180 periodicals each year in 27
different languages and in 44 different countries (including the Middle East).
This region also maintains the Disney world record of highest weekly circula-
tion figures and highest per-capita annual spending on publications. Over 40
million people in Europe and the Middle East regularly read a Disney comic
magazine, and many of them are adults. Disney magazine publishing is the number
one printed media for children in Europe! To give you one example of high
circulation figures: Italy's weekly "Topolino" sometimes sells over one million
copies per WEEK, in summer periods. Usually it is less than that, say 600-800
thousand, but it has passed the 1 million mark a few times! Can you imagine
that, when you compare it to the American market (where MUCH more people live),
where sales are only a few thousands for a magazine, which comes out once in
two months?!? Even here in Holland, I think almost EVERYONE has ONCE in his life
had a subscription to the Donald Duck weekly!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
DON ROSA said:
> Somebody else explain to Mike Prochaska [...]
What Mike should do is take a look at my website and go to the Europe-section.
There he'll find all the circulation and sales figures of the comics and he
can read amazing stories of how popular Disney comics can be in countries like
Norway and Italy! (the address is in my signature).
One of the most flourishing publications markets is in fact Europe. Here,
Disney magazine publishers create over 180 periodicals each year in 27
different languages and in 44 different countries (including the Middle East).
This region also maintains the Disney world record of highest weekly circula-
tion figures and highest per-capita annual spending on publications. Over 40
million people in Europe and the Middle East regularly read a Disney comic
magazine, and many of them are adults. Disney magazine publishing is the number
one printed media for children in Europe! To give you one example of high
circulation figures: Italy's weekly "Topolino" sometimes sells over one million
copies per WEEK, in summer periods. Usually it is less than that, say 600-800
thousand, but it has passed the 1 million mark a few times! Can you imagine
that, when you compare it to the American market (where MUCH more people live),
where sales are only a few thousands for a magazine, which comes out once in
two months?!? Even here in Holland, I think almost EVERYONE has ONCE in his life
had a subscription to the Donald Duck weekly!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Kriton Kyrimis
Don Rosa's stories in Greece?
Message 71 -
1996-09-07 at 00:47:35
Greetings from Greece!
Don Rosa mentioned that:
> Fortunately, most editors of Disney comics that I'm in touch with, such as
> in Finland, Greece, Italy, France, Norway and (of course) USA are great
******
> Disney comics fans themselves, and they seem eager to know.
Does this mean that his stories are being published in Greece? I stopped
reading Greek Disney comics ever since Gladstone appeared, finding that Greek
editions had become too weak and trashy. If this situation has changed, I'd
like to give them a second chance. Does anybody happen to know under which
title are Don's stories published in Greece? The two most likely ones,
"Mickey Mouse", and "Disney Classics" are digest-size three-tier format
affairs, so it is unlikely that the stories appear there.
Cheeers,
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Excuse me, yes, hello. I'm a stranger to these parts and I was wondering if
you could perhaps remind me of the name of the nearest star."
-----
Don Rosa mentioned that:
> Fortunately, most editors of Disney comics that I'm in touch with, such as
> in Finland, Greece, Italy, France, Norway and (of course) USA are great
******
> Disney comics fans themselves, and they seem eager to know.
Does this mean that his stories are being published in Greece? I stopped
reading Greek Disney comics ever since Gladstone appeared, finding that Greek
editions had become too weak and trashy. If this situation has changed, I'd
like to give them a second chance. Does anybody happen to know under which
title are Don's stories published in Greece? The two most likely ones,
"Mickey Mouse", and "Disney Classics" are digest-size three-tier format
affairs, so it is unlikely that the stories appear there.
Cheeers,
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Excuse me, yes, hello. I'm a stranger to these parts and I was wondering if
you could perhaps remind me of the name of the nearest star."
-----
Joachim Butz
Digest V96 #192 / B. Erickson Donaldist info (subscription and
Message 72 -
1996-09-07 at 02:22:02
BYRON
Oh, you had been here in Stuttgart! Nice to hear. I hope you hadn't got a
headache drinking too much wine on the "Deutschlands schönstem Weindorf"
(that is: Germanys most beautiful wine village - shudder, but in Stuttgart
people are sometimes a little bit conceited)
And there are hot news about Disney Comics in Germany? - So go ahead. Tell
us aaaall.
Perhaps you directed them, not to leave out such supplements as Don's "The
Tenth Avatar" as they've done this summer? And there are only one German
version of Rosa stories in the future (the same version in the weekly as in
the albums)?
Okay, okay - I am daydreaming. But perhaps:
Will they print "The Runaway brain" soon?
Is there a possibilty to reach EHAPA via e-mail or internet access? Or is
someone of EHAPA joining the list?
DER DONALDIST
If anyone wants to know more about Der Donaldist and you are able to read
German, try
http://www.cologneweb.com/DISNEY/DIVERSES/DON-DD.HTM
MIKE POHJOHLA wrote
> And undoubtedly many people have subscriped to Aku
>Ankka just because of that. But it's all because of the Editors' Pages and
>the publicitation of his name. I'm sure that at least the readers of your
>Monthly would appreciate an article now and then that would answer to the
>frequently asked questions and such.
This credits work! Some of my friends are reading comics sometimes. Some of
them hadn't red much Disney comics. After I gave this friends one or two
Rosa stories, ALL wanted to know who had done the story. In the meantime I
had to inform them , when there is a new Rosa story so they can buy the
issue. And I had to look for the older issues for them on Comic Cons.
Joachim
EHAPA-City ... er ... I mean Stuttgart - the town not only famous for their
cars (at least for comic fans)
Oh, you had been here in Stuttgart! Nice to hear. I hope you hadn't got a
headache drinking too much wine on the "Deutschlands schönstem Weindorf"
(that is: Germanys most beautiful wine village - shudder, but in Stuttgart
people are sometimes a little bit conceited)
And there are hot news about Disney Comics in Germany? - So go ahead. Tell
us aaaall.
Perhaps you directed them, not to leave out such supplements as Don's "The
Tenth Avatar" as they've done this summer? And there are only one German
version of Rosa stories in the future (the same version in the weekly as in
the albums)?
Okay, okay - I am daydreaming. But perhaps:
Will they print "The Runaway brain" soon?
Is there a possibilty to reach EHAPA via e-mail or internet access? Or is
someone of EHAPA joining the list?
DER DONALDIST
If anyone wants to know more about Der Donaldist and you are able to read
German, try
http://www.cologneweb.com/DISNEY/DIVERSES/DON-DD.HTM
MIKE POHJOHLA wrote
> And undoubtedly many people have subscriped to Aku
>Ankka just because of that. But it's all because of the Editors' Pages and
>the publicitation of his name. I'm sure that at least the readers of your
>Monthly would appreciate an article now and then that would answer to the
>frequently asked questions and such.
This credits work! Some of my friends are reading comics sometimes. Some of
them hadn't red much Disney comics. After I gave this friends one or two
Rosa stories, ALL wanted to know who had done the story. In the meantime I
had to inform them , when there is a new Rosa story so they can buy the
issue. And I had to look for the older issues for them on Comic Cons.
Joachim
EHAPA-City ... er ... I mean Stuttgart - the town not only famous for their
cars (at least for comic fans)
Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V96 #192
Message 73 -
1996-09-07 at 02:26:08
BYRON:
"You mean like offering a blood sacrifice? I guess so, but I
usually reserve those for really serious problems like no cream for my
morning coffee. Any volunteers? Oh, wait--never mind. I just remembered
that David Gerstein is coming for a visit next week."
Don't do it, Byron! I'm nothing unusual, only Type O! You'll hate
yourself in the morning! (And I can't return the tickets anymore!)
SHAUN:
I'm not sure what's going to be in future issues of UNCLE SCROOGE
ADVENTURES a long time from now, but #42 is going to have Barks' "Treasure
of Marco Polo" (not "The Dragon's Amulet" as solicited), #43 Barks' "Queen
of the Wild Dog Pack" and #44 my own Egmont story "Two in One," with art by
Daniel Branca.
MIKE:
"You used that friend of Mickey's again [in "A Mouse Against the
World"], although this time he seems to have acted more "Goofy" than in the
egg story ["The Egg Collector"]."
I'd like to introduce a major new character to Mickey's world, but
I feel I need to practice developing a pre-existing character before I can
leap out and try something completely unknown.
So I took Butch, a character who I thought showed a lot of promise
in his handful of 1930-31 appearances, but who never got to be "fully"
developed. I'm trying to take Butch farther than he ever got in his old
stories, and in the process I'm learning some things about character
development.
"The Egg Collector" had Butch acting a little more
characteristically scrappy, while "A Mouse Against the World"
re-established the basic milieu in which he lives (his ramshackle house is
based directly on its 1930 appearance). I just used him again in a story I
wrote two weeks ago, and maybe he'll team with Mickey and Goofy in a longer
story before too long. I'm finding my feet, so to speak, and reviving
Butch is helping me in this.
"Your Mickey is getting better and better."
Gawrsh, thanks! Byron, you hear that? ;-) You'll get another
Mickey story from me (my last for a while) coming-up in #49/1996.
"This story reminded me of an old Taliaferro story about Mickey
writing a song." Do you mean Gottfredson?
There's the 1946 story where Mickey writes a hit pop tune
("Bull-a-griddle Fit-a-griddle Dee!") The song first becomes popular, then
everyone gets sick of it -- but they can't get it out of their heads.
Actually, my inspiration for "A Mouse Against the World" was the old Barks
"swimming pool" story, where Donald got chased by a mob of angry mothers
after inadvertantly upsetting their kids. I read a Gottfredson interview
where he characterized his Mickey as "a mouse against the world." That
line kept making me imagine Mickey chased by that crowd, so I decided to
make it happen!
By the way, Mike... might you know where to get an EXTRA copy of
"The Egg Collector"? The Danish weekly didn't use it, so I don't have any
copies of it in its printed form. Maybe you can help me!
REGARDING ASTERIX:
By Toutatis! Sure, there are American Asterix fans! My local
bookstore is loaded with the series, and many kids back in grade school and
high school along with me used to read them. My friends envied me when I
went to Germany and actually ate wild boar (as well as see some at
Heide-park Solltau).
One interesting thing is that the post-Goscinny Asterix books have
never been widely available here. The publisher of the first 25 briefly
published THE GREAT DIVIDE and ASTERIX AND SON in 1985, but only one
printing of each; after that, those two went out of print and the other
more recent ones haven't appeared at all. I only have them in British
copies, which some shops go to the trouble of importing -- but most don't.
Most American Asterix editions are identical to their British
counterparts, but a few are not. Around 1978 (?) certain Asterix stories
were serialized in American Sunday newspaper comics, and got new
translations for those appearances. Until recently, two of the American
albums used those translations instead of the British ones. Recently, a
third album switched to the American translation. It wouldn't be so bad
EXCEPT that the name of every main character besides Asterix and Obelix is
DIFFERENT in these things! (Don Rosa is all-knowing about Asterix, so if
you know anything I've just said with a little more accuracy, maybe you
could mention it.)
Up Gaul!
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"From delivery boy to author! What a difference a day makes!"
(Email removed)
"You mean like offering a blood sacrifice? I guess so, but I
usually reserve those for really serious problems like no cream for my
morning coffee. Any volunteers? Oh, wait--never mind. I just remembered
that David Gerstein is coming for a visit next week."
Don't do it, Byron! I'm nothing unusual, only Type O! You'll hate
yourself in the morning! (And I can't return the tickets anymore!)
SHAUN:
I'm not sure what's going to be in future issues of UNCLE SCROOGE
ADVENTURES a long time from now, but #42 is going to have Barks' "Treasure
of Marco Polo" (not "The Dragon's Amulet" as solicited), #43 Barks' "Queen
of the Wild Dog Pack" and #44 my own Egmont story "Two in One," with art by
Daniel Branca.
MIKE:
"You used that friend of Mickey's again [in "A Mouse Against the
World"], although this time he seems to have acted more "Goofy" than in the
egg story ["The Egg Collector"]."
I'd like to introduce a major new character to Mickey's world, but
I feel I need to practice developing a pre-existing character before I can
leap out and try something completely unknown.
So I took Butch, a character who I thought showed a lot of promise
in his handful of 1930-31 appearances, but who never got to be "fully"
developed. I'm trying to take Butch farther than he ever got in his old
stories, and in the process I'm learning some things about character
development.
"The Egg Collector" had Butch acting a little more
characteristically scrappy, while "A Mouse Against the World"
re-established the basic milieu in which he lives (his ramshackle house is
based directly on its 1930 appearance). I just used him again in a story I
wrote two weeks ago, and maybe he'll team with Mickey and Goofy in a longer
story before too long. I'm finding my feet, so to speak, and reviving
Butch is helping me in this.
"Your Mickey is getting better and better."
Gawrsh, thanks! Byron, you hear that? ;-) You'll get another
Mickey story from me (my last for a while) coming-up in #49/1996.
"This story reminded me of an old Taliaferro story about Mickey
writing a song." Do you mean Gottfredson?
There's the 1946 story where Mickey writes a hit pop tune
("Bull-a-griddle Fit-a-griddle Dee!") The song first becomes popular, then
everyone gets sick of it -- but they can't get it out of their heads.
Actually, my inspiration for "A Mouse Against the World" was the old Barks
"swimming pool" story, where Donald got chased by a mob of angry mothers
after inadvertantly upsetting their kids. I read a Gottfredson interview
where he characterized his Mickey as "a mouse against the world." That
line kept making me imagine Mickey chased by that crowd, so I decided to
make it happen!
By the way, Mike... might you know where to get an EXTRA copy of
"The Egg Collector"? The Danish weekly didn't use it, so I don't have any
copies of it in its printed form. Maybe you can help me!
REGARDING ASTERIX:
By Toutatis! Sure, there are American Asterix fans! My local
bookstore is loaded with the series, and many kids back in grade school and
high school along with me used to read them. My friends envied me when I
went to Germany and actually ate wild boar (as well as see some at
Heide-park Solltau).
One interesting thing is that the post-Goscinny Asterix books have
never been widely available here. The publisher of the first 25 briefly
published THE GREAT DIVIDE and ASTERIX AND SON in 1985, but only one
printing of each; after that, those two went out of print and the other
more recent ones haven't appeared at all. I only have them in British
copies, which some shops go to the trouble of importing -- but most don't.
Most American Asterix editions are identical to their British
counterparts, but a few are not. Around 1978 (?) certain Asterix stories
were serialized in American Sunday newspaper comics, and got new
translations for those appearances. Until recently, two of the American
albums used those translations instead of the British ones. Recently, a
third album switched to the American translation. It wouldn't be so bad
EXCEPT that the name of every main character besides Asterix and Obelix is
DIFFERENT in these things! (Don Rosa is all-knowing about Asterix, so if
you know anything I've just said with a little more accuracy, maybe you
could mention it.)
Up Gaul!
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"From delivery boy to author! What a difference a day makes!"
(Email removed)
Markoff
Duckburg Map
Message 74 -
1996-09-07 at 08:07:34
I doubt it's possible at all to make an "accurate" map of Duckburg. Things
are constantly changing there! For example, Donald alone never seems to live
in the same house in any two consecutive stories.
--Jonathan Markoff
are constantly changing there! For example, Donald alone never seems to live
in the same house in any two consecutive stories.
--Jonathan Markoff
Henri Sivonen
Disney comics Digest V96 #191
Message 75 -
1996-09-07 at 13:43:42
Jan Lund Thomsen wrote:
> "Fra dag til dag" WAS published in Denmark. The publisher abandoned the
>project after the 4th collection.
They still go on here with a 50 year delay. Two weeks of comics from 1942
(as I recall) were not reprinted. Are these comics translated from the
originals or from Danish or Swedish? It looks like it sometimes.
-- ___
Henri Sivonen / \
(Email removed) WWW: | h_|
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris/ \__
> "Fra dag til dag" WAS published in Denmark. The publisher abandoned the
>project after the 4th collection.
They still go on here with a 50 year delay. Two weeks of comics from 1942
(as I recall) were not reprinted. Are these comics translated from the
originals or from Danish or Swedish? It looks like it sometimes.
-- ___
Henri Sivonen / \
(Email removed) WWW: | h_|
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris/ \__