TO ALL: I have now devised a signature for myself, which you will find at
the bottom of this missive (I hope). It is a listing of Gladstone's web
address, and e-mail addresses for anyone interested in writing to specific
Gladstone titles.
ARTHUR:
>Can you tell us more about those 'Pennywise' comicbooks?
Currently: Three-issue "Donald vs. Neighbor Jones" mini-series (featuring
material by Barks, Van Horn, and Vicar), published monthly, each issue 16
pages at 99c each. After that, a two month hiatus, then another mini-series
(theme to be determined).
Gary
----------------------------------------------------------
Check out Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
To send e-mail to your favorite Gladstone title(s):
Donald Duck: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge: (Email removed)
Donald Duck Adventures: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge Adventures: (Email removed)
Walt Disney's Comics and Stories: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge Adventures albums: (Email removed)
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Author
Topic: 199609
(378 messages)
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #209
Message 346 -
1996-09-26 at 23:36:42
Deckerd
T(h)al
Message 347 -
1996-09-26 at 23:41:07
On Sep 26, 10:24pm, Joachim Butz wrote:
> HARRY:
> > Wasn't it the place Joachimst(h)al that named the Taler?
> No. T(h)al is the German word for valley (sometimes glen as well). It
hadn't
> anything to do with money.
>
Au contraire, mon frere! To quote my dictionary, dollar comes
from daler, which comes from German taler or thaler, short for
Joachimsthaler, a coin of Joachimsthal, a village in Bohemia.
I should mention that there was a spelling reform in German
about 1902 that removed the "h" from words that had formerly
been spelled "th," so the word Thal, or valley, is now spelled
Tal. Some names, like Goethe and Rothschild, survive with the
old spelling. Anyway, that's why there's a difference in
spelling between taler and thaler -- historical words and names
from before the spelling reform are not entirely consistent.
--Dwight (a day late and a dollar short) Decker
> HARRY:
> > Wasn't it the place Joachimst(h)al that named the Taler?
> No. T(h)al is the German word for valley (sometimes glen as well). It
hadn't
> anything to do with money.
>
Au contraire, mon frere! To quote my dictionary, dollar comes
from daler, which comes from German taler or thaler, short for
Joachimsthaler, a coin of Joachimsthal, a village in Bohemia.
I should mention that there was a spelling reform in German
about 1902 that removed the "h" from words that had formerly
been spelled "th," so the word Thal, or valley, is now spelled
Tal. Some names, like Goethe and Rothschild, survive with the
old spelling. Anyway, that's why there's a difference in
spelling between taler and thaler -- historical words and names
from before the spelling reform are not entirely consistent.
--Dwight (a day late and a dollar short) Decker
Per Starback
Appearing characters in the Database
Message 348 -
1996-09-27 at 03:38:27
But what is the reason for not listing some appearances? To save our
fingers from typing it in? To save disk storage? To save our eyes
from reading long lists of appearing characters?
I think it's easier to have no special rules like that. If I'm
looking for a particular story I remember with Big Bad Wolf and I
remember that Brer Bear wasn't in it, it would help me if I could
exclude those stories from my consideration that list Brer Bear as an
appearing character. Etc.
(That is, I have my usual standpoint -- aim for the best most
comprehensible Disney comics index possible and make no compromises!
Also, as a corollary, assume that the index will be greater by a
couple of magnitudes in the future, and that there will be advanced
search facilities, and plan the work today so that index work today
won't have to be redone tomorrow when we want more features.)
fingers from typing it in? To save disk storage? To save our eyes
from reading long lists of appearing characters?
I think it's easier to have no special rules like that. If I'm
looking for a particular story I remember with Big Bad Wolf and I
remember that Brer Bear wasn't in it, it would help me if I could
exclude those stories from my consideration that list Brer Bear as an
appearing character. Etc.
(That is, I have my usual standpoint -- aim for the best most
comprehensible Disney comics index possible and make no compromises!
Also, as a corollary, assume that the index will be greater by a
couple of magnitudes in the future, and that there will be advanced
search facilities, and plan the work today so that index work today
won't have to be redone tomorrow when we want more features.)
Don Rosa
Me to SF
Message 349 -
1996-09-27 at 07:13:40
No new Digest tonight to send a last response to. I leave for San Francisco
in just a few hours... be back Monday morning.
I hope to see a few of you at the Cartoon Art Museum on Saturday. Excuse me
if I look as frazzled and confused as I normally do when I drop out of my
Kentucky Hills seclusion into a crowd of Duckfans generous with their kind
attention. (This trip might even be a bit like being in Europe! We'll see.)
in just a few hours... be back Monday morning.
I hope to see a few of you at the Cartoon Art Museum on Saturday. Excuse me
if I look as frazzled and confused as I normally do when I drop out of my
Kentucky Hills seclusion into a crowd of Duckfans generous with their kind
attention. (This trip might even be a bit like being in Europe! We'll see.)
Markoff
Digest V96 #209--Asses, Ole, etc.
Message 350 -
1996-09-27 at 10:22:04
HARALD:
>ASS-TIME
>Now it's my turn to make an ass out of myself...
>"What I always wanted to know, but was to ashamed to ask"-Dept.:
>Pleass would someone explain, what it is exactly that Don puts on page
>1 of his comics - a D.U.C.K.? Does this mean ... in letters? Or a
>head? Or a "real" duck? I just don't know!
You weren't alone at the beginning of this year. I have read Don's stories
on and off since late 1987 and I never knew about the D. U. C. K. until
March (or thereabouts) of 1996 when I read about them in the Scrooge McDuck
Page! (Actually, I had stumbled upon the D. U. C. K. in "Lo$" part 4 in late
1994, but couldn't understand what it was.) BTW, want to know what the
EASIEST Rosa story to find the D. U. C. K. is as far as I know? It's the
Duck Family Tree.
OLE:
As Sven noted, your personal e-mail address seems out of whack, so I'll put
the message here I was trying to send, about that story in Beagles Boys 34:
<<What is the name of the cousin in the Danish version of "Volvehalsen"? In
the Colombian issue, it is "Chico Mon Chico." Chico means (loosely)
"boy"--the Beagle Boys themselves are called the Chicos Malos ("Bad Boys").
I can't find what mon means in Spanish, but in French it's "my." (In one
panel, his chestplate says BCB instead of CMC. Maybe that's the English
initials which the translator missed while erasing.)>>
And since Harald gathered the "ass"-like courage to ask Don about his D. U.
C. K., I'll now quiz you about your RoC.
DON:
Ludwig Von Drake may not be big in Europe, but his star shone again for a
brief moment right here in the USA! In late 1990 and early 1991, Disney ran
a series of 3- to 5-page Studio stories called "March of Science," written
by Tom Yakutis and drawn by Bill White. The art wasn't so hot, but IMHO the
stories were purty darn good. The issues with these were 555, 557, 559, and 561.
GLADSTONE:
Are there any more of the above-mentioned LVD stories?
About that "Pennywise" notion: I heard the jist of the idea from an article
in The Gladstone Gazette 1: you don't have enough finances to publish a
whole 'nother comic, but you want to publish SOMETHING more than what you do
now, so you put out a 16-pager, i. e., a half-comic, right? I got a better
idea--you already HAVE that extra half-comic--the back half of DONALD DUCK!
Currently, you choose to perpetually waste it on those ever-struggling
non-improving Taliaferro gags, but if used correctly, it would fit an entire
Strobl or GP story in, and more to re-shine this dimmed ex-star of
Gladstone-dom! Why don't you do that after the past three years? (This is
all IMHO, of course.)
--Jonathan Markoff
>ASS-TIME
>Now it's my turn to make an ass out of myself...
>"What I always wanted to know, but was to ashamed to ask"-Dept.:
>Pleass would someone explain, what it is exactly that Don puts on page
>1 of his comics - a D.U.C.K.? Does this mean ... in letters? Or a
>head? Or a "real" duck? I just don't know!
You weren't alone at the beginning of this year. I have read Don's stories
on and off since late 1987 and I never knew about the D. U. C. K. until
March (or thereabouts) of 1996 when I read about them in the Scrooge McDuck
Page! (Actually, I had stumbled upon the D. U. C. K. in "Lo$" part 4 in late
1994, but couldn't understand what it was.) BTW, want to know what the
EASIEST Rosa story to find the D. U. C. K. is as far as I know? It's the
Duck Family Tree.
OLE:
As Sven noted, your personal e-mail address seems out of whack, so I'll put
the message here I was trying to send, about that story in Beagles Boys 34:
<<What is the name of the cousin in the Danish version of "Volvehalsen"? In
the Colombian issue, it is "Chico Mon Chico." Chico means (loosely)
"boy"--the Beagle Boys themselves are called the Chicos Malos ("Bad Boys").
I can't find what mon means in Spanish, but in French it's "my." (In one
panel, his chestplate says BCB instead of CMC. Maybe that's the English
initials which the translator missed while erasing.)>>
And since Harald gathered the "ass"-like courage to ask Don about his D. U.
C. K., I'll now quiz you about your RoC.
DON:
Ludwig Von Drake may not be big in Europe, but his star shone again for a
brief moment right here in the USA! In late 1990 and early 1991, Disney ran
a series of 3- to 5-page Studio stories called "March of Science," written
by Tom Yakutis and drawn by Bill White. The art wasn't so hot, but IMHO the
stories were purty darn good. The issues with these were 555, 557, 559, and 561.
GLADSTONE:
Are there any more of the above-mentioned LVD stories?
About that "Pennywise" notion: I heard the jist of the idea from an article
in The Gladstone Gazette 1: you don't have enough finances to publish a
whole 'nother comic, but you want to publish SOMETHING more than what you do
now, so you put out a 16-pager, i. e., a half-comic, right? I got a better
idea--you already HAVE that extra half-comic--the back half of DONALD DUCK!
Currently, you choose to perpetually waste it on those ever-struggling
non-improving Taliaferro gags, but if used correctly, it would fit an entire
Strobl or GP story in, and more to re-shine this dimmed ex-star of
Gladstone-dom! Why don't you do that after the past three years? (This is
all IMHO, of course.)
--Jonathan Markoff
Harry Fluks
Answer to Uncle Joachim
Message 351 -
1996-09-27 at 19:16:48
Joachim:
> Ludvig van Drake
For the record: Ludwig is named VON Drake, not van.
He's not Dutch or Flemish (like Van Beethoven, the other Ludwig, whose parents
were from Flanders).
For some strange reason, I always thought LVD was Austrian, not German.
LVD was introduced in Holland in 1963. He was a regular characters until
1973. When the Dutch reprinted some of Strobl's LVD stories in the 1988 and
later, they REDREW Ludwig to make him Donald! Nowadays, LVD only appears in
Italian pocket book stories (apart from one Barks and one Rosa story).
> For me it would be a shock seeing LvD in a Rosa story.
Hah!! 8-)
"So it seems you don't use the excellent informations collected and available
on this wonderful internet server"! We have an extensive database where it
says LVD appeared in exactly one Rosa story: "The Pied Piper of Duckburg".
You never read that one?
> If you read the chapter about the cover for DDA 23 then you'll see that
> Arthur is a little bit out of time.
Don may have changed the meaning of D.U.C.K. a little in the past, but who
says he didn't change it back? If the $crooge web page states the meaning, then
that's the correct one. That quote from an old Rosa mail may be "a little bit out
of time".
Hah! 8-)
--Harry.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #210
******************************************
> Ludvig van Drake
For the record: Ludwig is named VON Drake, not van.
He's not Dutch or Flemish (like Van Beethoven, the other Ludwig, whose parents
were from Flanders).
For some strange reason, I always thought LVD was Austrian, not German.
LVD was introduced in Holland in 1963. He was a regular characters until
1973. When the Dutch reprinted some of Strobl's LVD stories in the 1988 and
later, they REDREW Ludwig to make him Donald! Nowadays, LVD only appears in
Italian pocket book stories (apart from one Barks and one Rosa story).
> For me it would be a shock seeing LvD in a Rosa story.
Hah!! 8-)
"So it seems you don't use the excellent informations collected and available
on this wonderful internet server"! We have an extensive database where it
says LVD appeared in exactly one Rosa story: "The Pied Piper of Duckburg".
You never read that one?
> If you read the chapter about the cover for DDA 23 then you'll see that
> Arthur is a little bit out of time.
Don may have changed the meaning of D.U.C.K. a little in the past, but who
says he didn't change it back? If the $crooge web page states the meaning, then
that's the correct one. That quote from an old Rosa mail may be "a little bit out
of time".
Hah! 8-)
--Harry.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #210
******************************************
Erkki Satop
Moving in cyberspace...
Message 352 -
1996-09-27 at 22:02:20
Just thought I'd let you know that from now on I'll be available
on this new address. That is... IF you should miss me...
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
on this new address. That is... IF you should miss me...
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
Markoff
Digest V96 #210--Pennywise, appearances, guilders, etc.
Message 353 -
1996-09-27 at 23:44:30
FABRIZIO:
>The reason why in the Italian comics the "$" sign is kept, is that they
>do not pretend the action takes place in Italy (actually they did so in
>a few very old stories); Duckburg is in America, therefore the local
>currency is the US Dollar, very simple !
>Do they pretend that Scrooge and the Ducks live in Germany, or in
>Holland, in the other European comics ? This would sound really strange
>to me, and I wonder how, you all strictly-orthodox Barks fans, can
>accept it !
Interesting point! (And Nth-degree sacrilege on the translator's part if
that's true!) I wonder what they do for stories which involve traditional
USA holidays, politics, etc? For example, there's "Tunnel of Hidden
Treasure" (Dell Summer Fun 2), a Mickey story which contains a few
references to the Fourth of July. Harry's database shows that this was
reprinted in Sweden and the Netherlands. Then, there's Don's "Lo$" part 10
which shows Theodore Roosevelt living in the White House...
MARCO:
>Gyro doesn't have a family, as far as I know, but for his nephew (Newton?)
>who is slightly older than HDL and lives in a college a little out of Duckburg.
Surely you haven't forgotten Barks' Ratchet Gearloose and Rosa's Fulton
Gearloose!
GARY:
Are Pennywise subscriptions available yet?
Can I submit stuff for the letter columns to your e-mail address? (Which one
out of many?)
HARRY:
Per wrote:
>But what is the reason for not listing some appearances? To save our
>fingers from typing it in? To save disk storage? To save our eyes
>from reading long lists of appearing characters?
>
>I think it's easier to have no special rules like that. If I'm
>looking for a particular story I remember with Big Bad Wolf and I
>remember that Brer Bear wasn't in it, it would help me if I could
>exclude those stories from my consideration that list Brer Bear as an
>appearing character. Etc.
Please keep those rules, Harry! It would be insane to list EVERY Donald
story where HDL appeared. (Even worse would be to list H, D, and L
separately!) BTW, I have an idea that if the hero is usally a supporting
character for Donald, we don't list Donald. These would include Daisy Duck,
Gladstone Gander, Grandma Duck, Gyro Gearloose, HDL, and Junior Woodchucks.
(BTW, if Daisy is the hero, perhaps we shouln't list AMJ, as well as vice
versa?)
PER:
Harry wrote:
>Don may have changed the meaning of D.U.C.K. a little in the past, but who
>says he didn't change it back? If the $crooge web page states the meaning, then
>that's the correct one. That quote from an old Rosa mail may be "a little
bit out
>of time".
>Hah! 8-)
That reminds me of what I was thinking recently: perhaps that
"rosa-on-himself" file should just be chucked completely? Much of the info
on it is VERY out-of-date and/or inaccurate.
MONETARY EXPERTS:
As you saw a few digests ago, the price for a USA sunscription to the Dutch
Donald Duck Weekly is 195 guilders. Could you translate that into American
moolah?
--Jonathan Markoff
>The reason why in the Italian comics the "$" sign is kept, is that they
>do not pretend the action takes place in Italy (actually they did so in
>a few very old stories); Duckburg is in America, therefore the local
>currency is the US Dollar, very simple !
>Do they pretend that Scrooge and the Ducks live in Germany, or in
>Holland, in the other European comics ? This would sound really strange
>to me, and I wonder how, you all strictly-orthodox Barks fans, can
>accept it !
Interesting point! (And Nth-degree sacrilege on the translator's part if
that's true!) I wonder what they do for stories which involve traditional
USA holidays, politics, etc? For example, there's "Tunnel of Hidden
Treasure" (Dell Summer Fun 2), a Mickey story which contains a few
references to the Fourth of July. Harry's database shows that this was
reprinted in Sweden and the Netherlands. Then, there's Don's "Lo$" part 10
which shows Theodore Roosevelt living in the White House...
MARCO:
>Gyro doesn't have a family, as far as I know, but for his nephew (Newton?)
>who is slightly older than HDL and lives in a college a little out of Duckburg.
Surely you haven't forgotten Barks' Ratchet Gearloose and Rosa's Fulton
Gearloose!
GARY:
Are Pennywise subscriptions available yet?
Can I submit stuff for the letter columns to your e-mail address? (Which one
out of many?)
HARRY:
Per wrote:
>But what is the reason for not listing some appearances? To save our
>fingers from typing it in? To save disk storage? To save our eyes
>from reading long lists of appearing characters?
>
>I think it's easier to have no special rules like that. If I'm
>looking for a particular story I remember with Big Bad Wolf and I
>remember that Brer Bear wasn't in it, it would help me if I could
>exclude those stories from my consideration that list Brer Bear as an
>appearing character. Etc.
Please keep those rules, Harry! It would be insane to list EVERY Donald
story where HDL appeared. (Even worse would be to list H, D, and L
separately!) BTW, I have an idea that if the hero is usally a supporting
character for Donald, we don't list Donald. These would include Daisy Duck,
Gladstone Gander, Grandma Duck, Gyro Gearloose, HDL, and Junior Woodchucks.
(BTW, if Daisy is the hero, perhaps we shouln't list AMJ, as well as vice
versa?)
PER:
Harry wrote:
>Don may have changed the meaning of D.U.C.K. a little in the past, but who
>says he didn't change it back? If the $crooge web page states the meaning, then
>that's the correct one. That quote from an old Rosa mail may be "a little
bit out
>of time".
>Hah! 8-)
That reminds me of what I was thinking recently: perhaps that
"rosa-on-himself" file should just be chucked completely? Much of the info
on it is VERY out-of-date and/or inaccurate.
MONETARY EXPERTS:
As you saw a few digests ago, the price for a USA sunscription to the Dutch
Donald Duck Weekly is 195 guilders. Could you translate that into American
moolah?
--Jonathan Markoff
Deckerd
Digest V96 #210--Pennywise, appearances, guilders, etc.
Message 354 -
1996-09-28 at 00:05:29
On Sep 27, 4:44pm, markoff wrote:
> MONETARY EXPERTS:
> As you saw a few digests ago, the price for a USA sunscription to the
Dutch
> Donald Duck Weekly is 195 guilders. Could you translate that into
American
> moolah?
Let's see...according to USA Today's exchange rates table
for today (9/27), the rate is currently about 1.7 guilders
to the dollar. (Meaning a guilder is worth roughly 59c.)
That's more or less $115 for f 195. Considering that it's
a weekly comic book being sent air mail (of a sort), that's
pretty reasonable. Or at least as reasonable as you can
expect.
--Dwight Decker
> MONETARY EXPERTS:
> As you saw a few digests ago, the price for a USA sunscription to the
Dutch
> Donald Duck Weekly is 195 guilders. Could you translate that into
American
> moolah?
Let's see...according to USA Today's exchange rates table
for today (9/27), the rate is currently about 1.7 guilders
to the dollar. (Meaning a guilder is worth roughly 59c.)
That's more or less $115 for f 195. Considering that it's
a weekly comic book being sent air mail (of a sort), that's
pretty reasonable. Or at least as reasonable as you can
expect.
--Dwight Decker
Markoff
Dutch comics
Message 355 -
1996-09-28 at 03:44:25
PIETER VAN CLEEF:
Could you answer these questions, or forward them to someone who knows? It
seems awkward to do all this over snail-mail, with a three-week delay
between each message.
The subscription office reply to me, which I posted here a few digests ago,
says a one-year subscription to the DD Weekly costs f 195/$115. That seems a
quite steep price to me, however, so are there any other options, such as a
half-year subscription? If not, I feel I should subscribe to something from
them, so what is the subscription price for the DD Extra, or are there other
comics worthy of subscribing?
Could you answer these questions, or forward them to someone who knows? It
seems awkward to do all this over snail-mail, with a three-week delay
between each message.
The subscription office reply to me, which I posted here a few digests ago,
says a one-year subscription to the DD Weekly costs f 195/$115. That seems a
quite steep price to me, however, so are there any other options, such as a
half-year subscription? If not, I feel I should subscribe to something from
them, so what is the subscription price for the DD Extra, or are there other
comics worthy of subscribing?
Pedersen, Bent
Digests #199(!),#209,#210
Message 356 -
1996-09-28 at 15:01:58
Hello again,
HARALD HAVAS:
> (PS: Is "Bent" the same as German "Bernd"?)
No, I don't think there are any non-scandinavian variants of Bent, but
Bernd would come close.
ARTHUR:
> Talking about mistakes, I received a Mickey Mouse comic from Singapore
> today. Looks terrific. There are reprints from Danish and Dutch stories
in it,
Yesterday I received Mickey Mouse #28 from Singapore. I find the magazine
quite colourful and attractive, and the size is a bit bigger than the
normal Anders And. It has Danish, Dutch and American stories - including
the Barks classic "Parrot from Singapore". The magazine also features
puzzles, a fairytale and information on Mozart. Language: English. Price
S$2.60. Pages: 36.
Furthermore, I got 7 issues of Donal Bebek, 5 Gladstone issues and 3 Paman
Gober digests - all from Indonesia.
Donal Bebek (=Donald Duck): Stories: Danish/Dutch/American. Pages: 34.
Price: Rp 1800.00. Language: Indonesian. Size: Same as Mickey
Mouse/Singapore. Weekly(?).
Gladstone: Stories: Danish/Dutch/American. Pages: 34. Price: Rp 3500.00.
Language: Indonesian, but English translations are printed below each
picture. Size: Same as Donal Bebek. Bi-weekly. (DAVID GERSTEIN: #24
features your "Egg Collector"-story).
Paman Gober (=Gober Bebek=Scrooge). Stories: Mainly Italian, but also some
Danish. Pages: 224 b&w. Price: Rp 5000.00. Language: Indonesian. Size:
Normal digest size. Bi-monthly.
FREDRIK EKMAN:
> So far as I can judge, there are no longer any Spanish Disney comic
> books. What I did find was an album series which seems to be titled
> "Ol?! Disney".
This is a surprise to me, since I have a couple of Disney comics from
Portugal. And when they are selling Disney comics in Portugal, why not in
Spain then? Too bad.
MARKOFF:
> I got a better idea--you already HAVE that extra half-comic--the back
half of DONALD
> DUCK!
Okay, I get it. I'm now officially the only one who likes the Donald Duck
dailies (sp?). ;)
Best regards
Bent
HARALD HAVAS:
> (PS: Is "Bent" the same as German "Bernd"?)
No, I don't think there are any non-scandinavian variants of Bent, but
Bernd would come close.
ARTHUR:
> Talking about mistakes, I received a Mickey Mouse comic from Singapore
> today. Looks terrific. There are reprints from Danish and Dutch stories
in it,
Yesterday I received Mickey Mouse #28 from Singapore. I find the magazine
quite colourful and attractive, and the size is a bit bigger than the
normal Anders And. It has Danish, Dutch and American stories - including
the Barks classic "Parrot from Singapore". The magazine also features
puzzles, a fairytale and information on Mozart. Language: English. Price
S$2.60. Pages: 36.
Furthermore, I got 7 issues of Donal Bebek, 5 Gladstone issues and 3 Paman
Gober digests - all from Indonesia.
Donal Bebek (=Donald Duck): Stories: Danish/Dutch/American. Pages: 34.
Price: Rp 1800.00. Language: Indonesian. Size: Same as Mickey
Mouse/Singapore. Weekly(?).
Gladstone: Stories: Danish/Dutch/American. Pages: 34. Price: Rp 3500.00.
Language: Indonesian, but English translations are printed below each
picture. Size: Same as Donal Bebek. Bi-weekly. (DAVID GERSTEIN: #24
features your "Egg Collector"-story).
Paman Gober (=Gober Bebek=Scrooge). Stories: Mainly Italian, but also some
Danish. Pages: 224 b&w. Price: Rp 5000.00. Language: Indonesian. Size:
Normal digest size. Bi-monthly.
FREDRIK EKMAN:
> So far as I can judge, there are no longer any Spanish Disney comic
> books. What I did find was an album series which seems to be titled
> "Ol?! Disney".
This is a surprise to me, since I have a couple of Disney comics from
Portugal. And when they are selling Disney comics in Portugal, why not in
Spain then? Too bad.
MARKOFF:
> I got a better idea--you already HAVE that extra half-comic--the back
half of DONALD
> DUCK!
Okay, I get it. I'm now officially the only one who likes the Donald Duck
dailies (sp?). ;)
Best regards
Bent
Harald Havas
Taler/Daler/Dollar and LvD again
Message 357 -
1996-09-28 at 19:48:00
FABRIZIO
>Do they pretend that Scrooge and the Ducks live in Germany, or in
>Holland, in the other European comics ?
As I already stated, in Germany they live in a kind of American-like
illusionary world (but all the names of people and places are
German), that's why the DONALDISTs came up with the idea of Duckburgh
being in an alternate universe...
JOACHIM
>So it seems you don't use the excellent informations collected and available
>on this wonderful internet server located at university of Upsala / Sweden
>maintained by our well known Per. (perhaps you remember that htere is a
>little more there as only this ML? :-)).
I thought this information should be SOMEWHERE, but didn't want to go
search for it - why not ask people who would know for sure?
(And make an ass of myself at the same time...)
Thanks for the detailed address anyway!
>> Wasn't it the place Joachimst(h)al that named the Taler?
>No. T(h)al is the German word for valley (sometimes glen as well). It hadn't
anything to do with money.
Now _you're_ wrong - as Duden #7 ("Etymologie") clearly states:
The name "Taler" originated in the 16th Cent., named after the
village "St. Joachimstal" in Bohemia, where this coin wast mint(ed?) out
of their silver-mine. First it was known as Joachimstaler, but later
was shortened to Taler and widespread in Europe. The English version
"Dollar" was brought to the English language through the
Netherlands (Hi, Arthur, hir, Harry!) where it was knwon as "daler".
Which of course links our American-Dutch-German (and ?Cech) members
together in a nice line...
Maybe there's even a $crooge (time travel) story there "The Hunt for
the First T(h)aler/Dollar"...? Don?
HARRY
>For some strange reason, I always thought LVD was Austrian, not German.
Yeah! Me too! I dimly remember seeing a panel in a book ("Die Ducks
-Psychogram einer Sippe"?), where LvD states that he's Austrian.
Anybody know more? DONALDISTs? Historians? _I_ for one would LOVE to
know... ;-)
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
>Do they pretend that Scrooge and the Ducks live in Germany, or in
>Holland, in the other European comics ?
As I already stated, in Germany they live in a kind of American-like
illusionary world (but all the names of people and places are
German), that's why the DONALDISTs came up with the idea of Duckburgh
being in an alternate universe...
JOACHIM
>So it seems you don't use the excellent informations collected and available
>on this wonderful internet server located at university of Upsala / Sweden
>maintained by our well known Per. (perhaps you remember that htere is a
>little more there as only this ML? :-)).
I thought this information should be SOMEWHERE, but didn't want to go
search for it - why not ask people who would know for sure?
(And make an ass of myself at the same time...)
Thanks for the detailed address anyway!
>> Wasn't it the place Joachimst(h)al that named the Taler?
>No. T(h)al is the German word for valley (sometimes glen as well). It hadn't
anything to do with money.
Now _you're_ wrong - as Duden #7 ("Etymologie") clearly states:
The name "Taler" originated in the 16th Cent., named after the
village "St. Joachimstal" in Bohemia, where this coin wast mint(ed?) out
of their silver-mine. First it was known as Joachimstaler, but later
was shortened to Taler and widespread in Europe. The English version
"Dollar" was brought to the English language through the
Netherlands (Hi, Arthur, hir, Harry!) where it was knwon as "daler".
Which of course links our American-Dutch-German (and ?Cech) members
together in a nice line...
Maybe there's even a $crooge (time travel) story there "The Hunt for
the First T(h)aler/Dollar"...? Don?
HARRY
>For some strange reason, I always thought LVD was Austrian, not German.
Yeah! Me too! I dimly remember seeing a panel in a book ("Die Ducks
-Psychogram einer Sippe"?), where LvD states that he's Austrian.
Anybody know more? DONALDISTs? Historians? _I_ for one would LOVE to
know... ;-)
Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
Jyrki Vainio
Disney comics Digest V96 #210
Message 358 -
1996-09-28 at 21:47:42
Well, this is rather interesting... When I posted a letter saying
that I had a new address it seems to have appeared from a very
strange place... so my new address DOESN'T have anything to do
with this guy Erkki. Instead it should be
(Email removed)
I don't know... maybe our university's e-mail program let me in
as the previous user? In that case I wonder what poor Erkki
thinks when he finds that certain dcomics Digests - which I
ofcourse subscribed immediately - have started to appear into his
mailbox!
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
that I had a new address it seems to have appeared from a very
strange place... so my new address DOESN'T have anything to do
with this guy Erkki. Instead it should be
(Email removed)
I don't know... maybe our university's e-mail program let me in
as the previous user? In that case I wonder what poor Erkki
thinks when he finds that certain dcomics Digests - which I
ofcourse subscribed immediately - have started to appear into his
mailbox!
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
Deckerd
Dutch comics
Message 359 -
1996-09-28 at 22:06:40
On Sep 27, 8:44pm, markoff wrote:
> Subject: Dutch comics
> The subscription office reply to me, which I posted here a few
digests ago,
> says a one-year subscription to the DD Weekly costs f 195/$115. That
seems a
> quite steep price to me...
Steep?! Good grief, it's a weekly comic! 52 issues a year! From
a foreign country! Sent air mail! You're only paying a little
more than $2.00 a copy! Having a friend in Holland buy you a
copy off the stands every week and mail it to you would cost
more over a year's time. I think $115 is a very reasonable
price for what you're getting. It just looks "steep" because
it's the whole price, all at once. By the way, I have a
subscription to the Danish Donald Duck weekly, and those
weekly comics pile up fast into one very thick stack... Our
European friends who collect the things must have whole rooms
full of the weeklies after a few years.
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Dutch comics
> The subscription office reply to me, which I posted here a few
digests ago,
> says a one-year subscription to the DD Weekly costs f 195/$115. That
seems a
> quite steep price to me...
Steep?! Good grief, it's a weekly comic! 52 issues a year! From
a foreign country! Sent air mail! You're only paying a little
more than $2.00 a copy! Having a friend in Holland buy you a
copy off the stands every week and mail it to you would cost
more over a year's time. I think $115 is a very reasonable
price for what you're getting. It just looks "steep" because
it's the whole price, all at once. By the way, I have a
subscription to the Danish Donald Duck weekly, and those
weekly comics pile up fast into one very thick stack... Our
European friends who collect the things must have whole rooms
full of the weeklies after a few years.
--Dwight Decker
Harry Fluks
Of Dutch comics and customs and currency
Message 360 -
1996-09-28 at 22:44:42
Dwight:
> Our
> European friends who collect the things must have whole rooms
> full of the weeklies after a few years.
How did you know? You never visited my home when you were in Holland,
did you? 8-)
Fabrizio:
> Do they pretend that Scrooge and the Ducks live in []
> Holland, in the other European comics ?
In Holland, they seldom are explicitly saying where the Ducks live. In most
cases, it's in the neighbourhood (in places like Hamsterdam, if not in "Duckstad").
In Don's Life of $crooge stories, they didn't try to change anything: $crooge is
living in the USA (but the state of Calisota is not mentioned).
Even in most of the Dutch-made stories, the Ducks can have a short ride to go
to a desert, while they have to take a plane to go to any European place. But that's
all implicit, never in the texts.
Harald:
> The English version
> "Dollar" was brought to the English language through the
> Netherlands (Hi, Arthur, hir, Harry!) where it was knwon as "daler".
Hir, Harald! 8-)
The Dutch "daler" still exists, now as "daalder", which is f 1,50 (meaning:
1 1/2 guilder).
And talking about guilders: the Dutch word ("gulden") means "golden", but the
coin has always has a silver colour. However, all the coins in the Duck stories
are always coloured yellow, even though they were called guldens.
> Maybe there's even a $crooge (time travel) story there "The Hunt for
> the First T(h)aler/Dollar"...? Don?
Bringing $crooge to Joachimsthal (Scrooge Valley)? Hm... maybe you remember
Don's view on time travel stories.
I said:
> For some strange reason, I always thought LVD was Austrian, not German.
It now occurs to me that it's maybe because some other famous scientist
was Austrian, too.
--Harry.
"Some speed to this horse! I'll bet he can go a half hour in 29 minutes!"
(Mickey Mouse, 1930)
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> Our
> European friends who collect the things must have whole rooms
> full of the weeklies after a few years.
How did you know? You never visited my home when you were in Holland,
did you? 8-)
Fabrizio:
> Do they pretend that Scrooge and the Ducks live in []
> Holland, in the other European comics ?
In Holland, they seldom are explicitly saying where the Ducks live. In most
cases, it's in the neighbourhood (in places like Hamsterdam, if not in "Duckstad").
In Don's Life of $crooge stories, they didn't try to change anything: $crooge is
living in the USA (but the state of Calisota is not mentioned).
Even in most of the Dutch-made stories, the Ducks can have a short ride to go
to a desert, while they have to take a plane to go to any European place. But that's
all implicit, never in the texts.
Harald:
> The English version
> "Dollar" was brought to the English language through the
> Netherlands (Hi, Arthur, hir, Harry!) where it was knwon as "daler".
Hir, Harald! 8-)
The Dutch "daler" still exists, now as "daalder", which is f 1,50 (meaning:
1 1/2 guilder).
And talking about guilders: the Dutch word ("gulden") means "golden", but the
coin has always has a silver colour. However, all the coins in the Duck stories
are always coloured yellow, even though they were called guldens.
> Maybe there's even a $crooge (time travel) story there "The Hunt for
> the First T(h)aler/Dollar"...? Don?
Bringing $crooge to Joachimsthal (Scrooge Valley)? Hm... maybe you remember
Don's view on time travel stories.
I said:
> For some strange reason, I always thought LVD was Austrian, not German.
It now occurs to me that it's maybe because some other famous scientist
was Austrian, too.
--Harry.
"Some speed to this horse! I'll bet he can go a half hour in 29 minutes!"
(Mickey Mouse, 1930)
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