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Joachim Butz
Dear Per,

tried use the link from

http://WWW.Update.UU.SE/~starback/disney-comics/related.html
to
Links about comics at the GENBBB.

but the adress changed to

http://wwwmbb.cs.colorado.edu/~mcbryan/bb/273/summary.html

Please correct this.

Problems had beeen with

The Comic Book and Comic-Strip Page (by Martin Ward)

too.

Thanks

Joachim
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

DON ROSA:
> That's hard to remember since they have no meaning to me.
GP stands for "Geillustreerde Pers" and that's Dutch for "Illustrated Press".

OLE REICHSTEIN NIELSEN:
> The best selling book is the Jumbo Books we hear, but what are
> the actual figures?
I think that the sales figures are around 900,000 for the JumboBog series. It
has been the best selling book in Denmark for many years and it has sold more
copies than ever in 1994. Just under 900,000 books were sold, which is an increase
of 13% over 1993 or almost 100,000 books! The figure is remarkable for a country
with only 1.3 million children in the target group! Did you know that since
"JumboBog" was first introduced in 1968, more than 12 million books have been
sold in Denmark to date? I'm sorry but I don't have the figures for 1995.

DAVE RAWSON:
> I only had a couple of minutes to surf through your web site but it's
> obvious it's quite fine with LOTS of great stuff. Well done!
O, whoa! Thanks! I'm really working on it a lot lately! I have even started to
scan covers of foreign Disney comics. The one country I've already scanned some
covers from is Greece. Can anyone tell me if he likes it or not (the Greek
scanned covers) and if I should scan more? (go to Europe/Greece) I don't know
if it would be interesting enough to do all the trouble for! I'm also starting
to put some extra's here and there like statistic ghraphics (like in France),
lists and even the names of Disney characters in all the countries.

FREDRIK EKMAN:
I saw your list of international-character-names on Per's website! Can
I use it for my website? I'll write "contributed by Fredrik Ekman" on every page
where I've used your translations! I've already done it with Germany, so if you
want to see how it looks, you can go to Europe/Germany!

PROCM:
> Where can I get the Donald Duck weelkly in the United States?
What Donald Duck Weekly are you talking about? Almost every country in Europe
has a weekly title carrying Donald's name! I don't think you can get any of
those in the United States!

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Deckerd
On Sep 8, 9:27pm, Stefan Printz-Pahlson wrote:

> And, hey! Great way to use the information highway in
> the sky, Byron. Why just "embarrass" a colleague at work
> when you can do it globally on the Internet? Modern computer
> technology is truly wonderful. Thanx, pal :-)
>
I've been amazed watching this ML develop over the last couple
of years. It isn't just fans on this ML, but professionals
representing several Disney comic publishers in different
countries -- and they're conducting _business_ here! (Like
the recent discussion on how to order variant forms of Don
Rosa stories.) The ML is a way for the pros to get to know
each other and exchange information when otherwise they would
be sealed off in their own companies and countries and unable
to find out what's going on in the rest of the world or who's
doing it. In most fan-type MLs I've seen, most or all of the
participants are fans, and the professionals who are actually
creating whatever it is the fans are fans of are not involved
and far away. Here, the fans actually have input, or are at
least listened to and their questions answered, and the large
number of professionals who are active are taking part in their
own way. Of course, the down side is the risk of talking too
much...I just ran across a quote from (I think) Cardinal Richelieu,
who said that no matter how honest a man might be, if that man
had written just six lines, Richelieu could find something in
them to hang him with. Some of us have written a lot more than
six lines...

--Dwight Decker
Joachim Butz
MICHAEL NAIMANN wrote:

>Any idea when us back-woods, country-cousin Norte Americanos will see >the
following stories?...

You're not the only one waiting for

An Eye for Detail
The Treasure of the Ten Avatar
A Matter of Some Gravity

because in Germany they hadn't printed these stories yet. You see there are
more hillbilly regions on earth. But if Gladstone will print it soon, it
would be very nice. I like the stories more in the original version.

Joachim
Joachim Butz
JONATHAN MARKOFF:

>Well, maybe that's a bit heavy on sarcasm. Here are some more specific
requests:
>
> Paul Murry's MM (especially the serials--but please print them as
>one-parters!!!)

That would be GREAT!!
Joachim Butz
Ruggerstr. 27
70569 Stuttgart
GERMANY
Per Starback
Arthur de Wolf asked:
> FREDRIK EKMAN:
> I saw your list of international-character-names on Per's
> website! Can I use it for my website?

The list of names was maintained by Fredrik until about a year ago.
Nowadays I maintain it together with the rest of the Disney comics
pages. There are updates to it coming in now and then from list
subscribers as well as casual web surfers, so if you for some reason
want to copy the information instead of using it where it is you'd
better copy it again several times a month if you want to keep
up-to-date.
Per Starback
me> Sorry, but that list of addresses isn't public.

Harry> It used to be. What happened? Were there actual complaints about
Harry> spam messages? What I always liked about this list was its openness.

I'm following suit and doing what most every list maintainer is doing.
We haven't had much spam on this list fortunately. Kevin Lipsitz
tried to sell magazine subscriptions to us once. He continued to send
long messages about that (signed with different names each time) to
the list *each* week for a long time after that, but then I had
stopped him so it didn't go out to the list. As list maintainer have
taken countermeasures like that spammers have more and more switched
to sending their spam to individual messages instead, and they collect
them from whevever they can. Listservers that still have enabled
"who" commands that list all the subscribers of a list get hit more
and more frequently by requests to list all subscribers of all lists
at that site.

Harry> I can think of several reasons. For instance: is it useful to
Harry> post reviews of recent Farbackistani stories to the list? That
Harry> depends on the presence of Farbackistani members.

I think it rather depends on the presence of *active* Farbackistani
members. Let those who are mildly interested in Disney comics skim
the contents sections and most of the time don't read anything at all.
That's what I do in several mailing lists I lurk in, and I wouldn't
like a lot of commotion there about there being a Swedish member on
the list who could be used for doing "errands" in Sweden.
Let the lurkers lurk in peace!

> One extra caveat (which you know, but others might not): some people
> have a double subscription: both single messages and digests.

True. I have fixed it so that multiple subscriptions (for the *same*
address) won't be listed twice the next time. Thanks for pointing it
out.
Per Starback
Harry wrote:
> I have a proposal for a *very long* layout. 8-)
> I'll show you somewhere this week.

That sounds interesting.

> I understand that Italians use capitals (Massimo De Vita = MDV, not
> MdV). But do they use the same system in America? (Phil De Lara? Or
> Phil de Lara?) Any American who can help me out?

I think that the holder of a name should have the last say on how to
write it. In my experience Americans tend to spell small words from
European names like "von" and "de" capitalized even if they weren't so
originally, but I wouldn't trust any fixed rules.
Deckerd
On Sep 10, 12:13am, Per Starback wrote:

> In my experience Americans tend to spell small words from
> European names like "von" and "de" capitalized even if
> they weren't so
> originally, but I wouldn't trust any fixed rules.
>
Americans tend to know only English and don't know what
the small words actually mean. This is why in a video
catalog you'll find Die Fledermaus, Die Zauberfloete, and
Das Boot in the "D" section even though The Man with the
Golden Gun is in the "M" section. You'll also see names
spelled like Wernher Von Braun and listed in the "V"
section of the phone book. We Just Don't Know!

--Dwight van von de Decker
Stefan Printz-Pahlson
A FINAL (?) NOTE ON THE TIME MACHINE ALBUMS

As Byron Erickson (hi, boss!) pointed out some days ago, Egmont did indeed
publish five time machine albums between 1987 and 1991. Although the series
was reasonably successful, it was cancelled since the management at EPS
felt that top-class artists such as Marco Rota and Vicar were too valuable
to be working on projects outside the weekly magazine (and I've got to
agree with them on that). Anyway, here are the credits as promised.

D 9434............THE VIKING VOYAGE................................44 pages
Story: Lars Bergstrom/Stefan Printz-Pahlson
Script: Tom Anderson
Art: Marco Rota

D 9576............THE CAVE BEAR CAPER..............................44 pages
Story: Paul Halas
Script: Tom Anderson
Art: Vicar

D 89004........THE ROYAL PORTRAIT..................................46 pages
Story: Paul Halas
Script: Tom Anderson
Art: Santanach

D 89053........MEDIEVAL MAGIC......................................46 pages
Story: Lars Enoksen/Stefan Printz-Pahlson
Script: Unn Printz-Pahlson
Art: Santanach

D 90243........PRINCE IGANOV......................................46 pages
Story: Paul Halas
Script: Tom Anderson
Art: Marco Rota

Okay, gang. Hope this answers most of your questions regarding a fondly
remembered (at least by me) period of EPS history.

Stefan Printz-Pahlson

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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #195
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Danny Coenen
ALL:
Well, one of us Donaldists is currently working on a map of
Duckburg, and his first results have been published in DER
DONALDIST 95. In this issue there are eight pages of text
explaining the whole thing, three close- up maps and one
map of most of Duckburg on it. these are only sketches, but
they look surprisingly realistic. There will be a whole bunch
of maps once he`ll be finished with his research. (I think about
25 or thirty). In other issues maps of other places, such as the
McDuck Castle have been published. for the ones of you capable
of reading German, I can really recommend ordering this magazine!

Somebody contacted me by private mail about U$ toys, but the name
of whoever that was got lost somehow. Would you please write to me
again, including who you are this time? Thanks.
Danny Coenen
Kopernikusstr. 18 Tel. :
(049)2461/56129
D-52428 Juelich
Germany EU e-mail :
(Email removed)
Ole R. Nielsen
MIKE SCHNEIDERATH mentioned astrological collecting cards in German
Micky Maus; I'm triple interested! As far as I could tell from the
examples given the birthdates are those 'outside the frame' i.e. date
of first appearance in a strip or cartoon, not those given within the
stories. Not that I can think of any except Don's June 9.th for Donald.
Daan Jippes did a (non-disney) page listing sun-signs for a lot of
comic book characters and movie stars; according to this Grandma Duck
is an Aquarian, Scrooge is Leo, Mickey is Virgo (like Unca Walt), and
Donald is Aries (like Unca Carl) and Minnie is Gemini.
Allright, I _know_ it's silly to attribute star signs to fictional
characters, if astrology makes sense at all in the first place...
Oh, and Jacob: the word for 'star wheel' is Zodiak, as in Zodiacus.
But I'll just allow another of my eccentricities to surface: what size
are these cards? Real playing card size, or smaller? Do they have rounded
corners? And is the art original or recycled? (Can I get some, please?)

ANDERS ENGWALL:

> And the title even sounds like an archetypal film noir title... Like
> a mix between "The Lady in the Lake" and "Blue Dahlia" or something.

You must mean "Black Dahlia", one of the few detective novels I've read.

>> Sunday page from July 10.th _1932_ in it - you can almost hear Uncle Walt's
> Well, we *did* get "The Wise Little Hen" in the anniversary issue in
> 1994, and that one is from 1934.

I forgot about that, but this is twice as old... Or how do you say when it's
two years after the beginning instead of four?

>> Enjoy on Friday,
> Hah, I spotted it in the shop this *Thursday*!
And I got it _last_ Thursday ! Is the Swedish calendar BTW so far ahead that
an issue from week 37 is in the shops in late week 36?

>>'j{vla svenskara'
> Tsk, tsk. "Med plutonium och Gottfredsonstrippar fer vi dansken pe knd!" :-)

Either I forgot a smiley or my language has deteriorated along with others'
on the list. Still no need to reply with nuclear threats! ;)

DAVID GERSTEIN(?):
> I'm not sure what's going to be in future issues of UNCLE SCROOGE
> ADVENTURES a long time from now, but #42 is going to have Barks' "Treasure
> of Marco Polo" [...] and #44 my own Egmont story "Two in One," with art by
> Daniel Branca.

What a surprise: this is the only longer Scrooge story I've never read, and
doubted that I would ever see it reprinted - it is _very_ banned over here.
I'm afraid I'll have to see it before I dare believe it (just like you :),
the Disney Police have blown up a few of Gladstone's pipe dreams before...
Chances are I'll get to read your "Two in One" in English at least/last.

> You'll get another Mickey story from me (my last for a while) coming-up
> in #49/1996.

Looking forward to it! Not too long a while?

DWIGHT DECKER (a.k.a. Robert F. Decker: care to explain?)
> Oh, happy happy joy joy! I just got the 5 September
> (36/96) issue of Anders And (the weekly Danish Donald
> Duck comic book), and the first story I sold to Egmont
> is in it! It's just a one-page Beagle Boys gag (D95191),

A little more room to show off your skills would probably have
helped - that gag could have been done as a _cover_. More to come I hope.

> Zowie! I yam a published Dizzy author!

Is this the first script you've had published? 'Script' here used in the
European sense of the word :) And you started working for Egmont in 1993?

RICH MORRISSEY:
> Does anyone know anything about a Disney series featuring Donald Duck as
> a super-hero? I've heard it mentioned that there is such a series, but
> nobody's told me anything more about it. Who were the writers and artists,
> and were the stories any good?

We've talked a little about 'Superduck' as his UK English name is on the list
before and discovered he was invented by Guido Martina, one of the greatest
Italian Disney writers, and has since been used by many others. Probably the
best drawn stories are those by Giorgio Cavazzano. The two other Danes Jan
and Jacob seem to like him a lot, and Jacob has even dedicated part of his
webpages to him. He hasn't ever been, and probably won't be, published in the
US. If the Italian material ever makes it over there, there's so many stories
that have more appeal than just that of curiosity. There's also a Superdaisy
BTW. If you are interested I could send you a pocketbook full of stories with
him. I even have one in German if that's better than Danish?

BENT PEDERSEN (G'dav Bent!):
> I recently read the Mickey story in which he is a writer and has
> fan-trouble. The story is a true copy (without the occasional breaking of
> ankles) of a Stephen King story (title?), but anyway, the Mickey story is
> now on my list of "best stories I've read".

The Stephen King story is "Misery" but which Mickey story are you referring
to? Not David's unless 'recently' means 'this morning'...

HARRY F-LUCK-S:
> OK, I'll stick to EvS for Eddy van Schuijlenburg. But how does one spell
> American names? Merill de Maris (MdM) or Merill De Maris (MDM)?

As you know, I don't worry a bit about these trivialities. :)
But 'a friend of mine' is _very_ disappointed you've removed the indexer
credits from the ftp site. He would also like to be abbreviated JLT. :)

JOHN MARKOFF:
>Have Pat Block's stories ever been printed in Europe? (The database doesn't
>seem to indicate that, but that could be out-of-date, or just missing.)

To date he still hasn't appeared in the Egmont editions, but while you are
whining about having to wait half a year for a Rosa story, remember it took
_three_ years before any of his stories appeared here back in 1990. Schedules
are tight and planned a long time ahead. A new issue has probably been ready
for something like 8 months before it hits the shops. If Byron picked up
the phone today and told Vicar he was fired, you wouldn't know for at least
a year.

-- Ole
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

I wrote about the JumboBog books yesterday, but those sales
figures are ofcourse for one YEAR! If 900,000 of those books are sold
in one year and 'only' 100,000 issues are sold of each issue of "Anders
And", that means that about 5,200,000 issues of "Anders And" are sold
in one year, because it is a weekly comic! Wouldn't that mean that
JumboBog isn't the best selling comicbook in Denmark after all?
As Jacob Andersen told me, the 900,000 sold books/year covers
12 issues/year, so the more interesting number is the average 75,000
sold books/issue!

DWIGHT DECKER:
> (Like the recent discussion on how to order variant forms of
> Don Rosa stories.)
Yeah ... and I'm the one who started that discussion! Does that mean that
it is because of ME that in the future, Don's stories will be published as
one part without splash-panels in countries like Holland and France?
Whoa ... that's amazing! :-)

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Jacob Sparre Andersen
A technical detail about the Jumbobog sales figures:

The difference, as seen in DK, is that DD&Co. is a magazine ("blad"), where
as the Jumbob ger are books ("bog"/"b ger").

The differentiation is also seen in the choice of sales channels. DD&Co. are
sold in kiosks (_all_ kiosks) and Jumbob ger are mostly sold in book stores.

So Jumbob ger are competing with Salman Rushdie, Peter H gh, Jostein Garder,
etc. and not with PC Magazine, Vogue, Playboy, etc.

Back on topic:

Somebody asked about Superduck ("DD as a super hero"). _The_ comic book about
Superduck (at least in Danish) is "Den store St?land". It' is an 30*40 cm
200-300 page hardcover book with the first stories about Superduck. I think
it is availiable in Italian as well.
A sligthly cheaper and more handy choice is Jumbobog 28: "St?landen Anders"
(10*15 cm, 256? pages). This one must be availiable in German and Italian as
well.

Greetings,

Jacob
--
Have you played with your LEGO today?
Don Rosa
GREG:
The Disney stores are run by Disney, not one of their European comic book
companies. And to Disney, Donald has been a secondary character for the past
40+ years. Actually, I would think even THAT would be a complement as to
what use Donald has been to Disney since then. His only real value to them
is in the royalties Disney makes off those European comic books where Donald
is THE main Disney character by the widest of margins. But those Donald
comics come from Egmont, or GP, or HMC, or Attica... not Disney. You'll
never find much about Donald at a Disney Store until Disney releases a major
animated musical titled "Beauty and the Duck" or "Pocadonald" or "The
Duckbill of Notre Dame" or something... and I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

MIKE R.:
Sounds like I was haunting you yesterday. Yes, I did that cover for COMICS
JOURNAL about 1979 lampooning violence in American super-hero comics -- I
have long been known as a critic of that stuff. And that was long before the
comics got about 5000% worse than they were when I did that cover!

The 1976 STAR SPANGLED WAR STORIES #202 with "Dr. Keno Rosa" was written by
David Michilenie (sic?) who lived here in Louisville for a few years. I know
of one other time (at least) that someone put me into a comic... it was in
an issue of DC PRESENTS where my Capt. Kentucky (which was me in a cape and
tights) was a big balloon in a parade through Metropolis. That'n was written
by another friend of mine at DC, but I can't recall who that was just now...
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