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Hiya, another time!

MIKE P.:

> ALL:
> A while ago I bought a copy of the Barks' Bear Book. The quality of
> printing was rather poor and the material was obviously xeroxed from the
> comic books, not the original drawings. Could there be enough demand for
> such a book so as to make a proper one with good-looking art 'n stuff?

I don't think so. But if you want the stories to look better, buy the Tom
and Jerry reprints. In Sweden we even have albums collecting those stories,
and the cover even mentions something like "by Carl Barks, the famous Disney-
cartoonist" (!).

> Btw, although I'm not a "collector" of the kind who buys and sells
> stuff depending on the profit he can make, I'm still interested in the value
> of the BBB in the market today. How expensive is it in, say, mint condition?

I bought mine for $60.

JOACHIM (von Anka) BUTZ:

> The Spirit Jam Story published in Spirit Magazine #30. I don't know the
> exact year, but it had been published in Germany in Feb. 1983. So it had
> been before.

Thanks!

JOHN KAZOS Jr:

> Monterey Jack's favorite cheese is Brie '86. It seems that almost all mice
> on the show (except Gadget and various extras, and maybe Monty's mom) are
> named after cheeses. Monterey's dad is Cheddar 'ead (Cheddarhead) Charlie.

I thought Monterey's fathers name was Cheddar Ed (?).

See ya!
---

Greetings from J a k o b

Advertising Italian comics:

The current number of "Topolino" (issue 2130; this time I double-checked
the number, Sven), contains new stories from M. De Vita (40 pages), S.
Asteriti and R. Scarpa in addition to two minor stories and to the 2nd
part of G.B. Carpi's "Ritorno a Villa Rosa" !!
Although the Scarpa story is very short, this seems to be one of the
best periods for "Topolino" since ages.

Is Disney Italy starting to understand how impotant good drawers are for
their comics ?

On Sep 20, 9:27am, Wilmer Rivers wrote:
> Subject: Ludwig von Drake in Europe
> Don (wasn't it?) asked whether Ludwig von Drake is a character who is
> much used in Europe. If he is used there, I'd like to know why.
Ludwig
> is just an animated version (created for the Disney TV show, right?)
of
> comedian Sid Caesar's famous "Old Professor" character, who was a
> staple of American TV in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Pretty much
> everything about Ludwig - his facial expressions, his clothes, his
> absent-minded behavior - is copied from Sid Caesar. Since the "Old
> Professor" character was a US television character, I doubt that the
> character of Ludwig would have much meaning to Europeans who hadn't
> seen Sid Caesar's original version. It would therefore seem unlikely
> that Ludwig would be very popular there, since he would have to be
taken
> out of his native context of the culture of American television. So
if
> he is in fact widely used in Europe, then why is that?
>
I can't tell you how popular Ludwig von Drake is in Europe
(though I have a Dutch tape of the version of "Mickey and
the Beanstalk" that uses him as the storyteller). But it
seems to me that you don't _have_ to know what he's based
on to enjoy him. Does anybody today outside the hardcore
fans know that Foghorn Leghorn is a takeoff on a radio
comedian's act (I'd have to look it up to tell you just
whose)? Or that the Flintstones were swiped from the
Honeymooners, Topcat is Sgt. Bilko, and the Jetsons are Blondie?
Yet those cartoons are enjoyed all over the world without
knowing the source material. And Archie is basically Henry
Aldrich, still going strong long after Henry Aldrich has
been largely forgotten. To be honest, I didn't even know
that Ludwig von Drake was based on something else. I've
never been that fond of the character, but Ludwig seems
to work well enough on his own terms that you don't have
to know what he was based on.

--Dwight Decker

GLADSTONE (and anyone interested):
I just got DD 299. The apperance of more non-Taliaferro material was a
pleasant change, and I hope it says the new trend for DD. It's good to see
Tony Strobl again. "The Dog Watcher" is an example of Strobl's better art,
although the story's plot is nothing new. The Chip'n'Dale story was the
icing on the cake, and I hope to see more of these as well. However, the
issue was ruined, IMHO, by the dark, scratchy paper.

(Note: I don't mean to minimize the rarely-reprinted early Barks story--it's
actually one of my favorite early DD stories. The reason I lacked interest
was because I already had it in an issue of the CBL in Color.)

RAUL (and others):
You think you wait too long for subscription issues? Notice at the beginning
of my message I say *just* got DD 299. That's right, not until today,
September 20! In fact, I didn't even get WDC&S 605 until September 18! I
actually got U$A 41 in the mail today along with DD. I'll go upstairs and
read it, and if I have time I'll share my thoughts about that. Bye for now!

--Jonathan Markoff

Gary Brown:
> For the most part, people don't care who wrote or drew a particular
> comic book story.

Are you joking? That's the most laughable statement I have heard
here in some time. (My reply could gain that position, though.)

People don't care that Stephen King wrote The Stand?
People don't care that the guy in new Mission Impossible
movie was played by Tom Cruise?
People don't care that Alfred Hitchcock directed Vertigo?
People don't care that Frank Miller wrote and drew Sin City?
(I could go on and on)

Man, you're killing me!

/Mikko

SHAUN:
>In the original "Land of the Pygmy Indians", Donald, just coming out of
>the sturgeon's mouth is saying: "Ho-hum, all in the day's work!".

Thanks a lot, Shaun. The original translation (by Martina?) still had the
"ho-hum", which quite didn't make sense with the rest. In this month's "Zio
Paperone", the Evil Translator just cut off the "ho-hum" leaving the "a-am I
a-alive o-or dead?". Not only didn't she care to look at the original
version, she didn't even look at the pictures!

However, I should add that for any Italian with just a rough mastering of
English (like, e. g., myself) the sentence <all in the day's work> does
sound a little cryptic. I mean, you can't just take a vocabulary and
translate it! So that may be why Martina (or whoever was translating) just
wrote a different thing.
Marco

Hi again!

Everyone:

Thanks for the information about Donald as "Paperiniko!" As has been
noted, there've been quite a few super-heroes in the Disney funny animal
universe; didn't a few get together on the DARKWING DUCK show? Maybe I still
think too much like a superhero fan in wondering how Darkwing Duck and
Gizmoduck would relate to Paperiniko and Super Goof...

Kriton Kyrimis wrote:

<<I just had a very nasty thought: do you know that Disney has been offensive
to white Americans for decades, by depicting them as silly, white-colored
people with beaks (those ducks aren't really ducks, are they?) talking
unintelligibly? Caucasians are just one more ethnic group, and they can also
be offended by racial slurs. Perhaps those profit-making Donald Duck animated
shorts should be withdrawn from the market...>>

Caucasians are pretty thick-skinned, though I believe Mike on "All in the
Family" was the first to point out that Mickey Mouse (along with Minnie,
Morty and Ferdie) is black! True, he's usually handled more positively than
Donald (though he's even less like a real mouse than Donald is like a real
duck), which is par for the course with minorities these days...but Disney
himself wasn't above occasional racial gags (e.g., Mickey yelling "Minnie!"
the way minstrel singers would go "Mammy!")

Marco Barlotti asked:

<<A question for those of you who have Barks' original story: what does
Donald say coming out of the fish's mouth? (page 25). From his face, it
hardly seems possible that he is
saying <a-am I a-alive or d-dead?> ; I suppose he should say something like
<well, that was an easy job>...>>

He's saying "Ho hum! All in the day's work!" That's pretty definitely the
original lettering, since it's in the distinctive square, thin style of Gare
Barks seen in the later Barks stories (as opposed to the much bouncier, wider
lettering in the earlier stories, probably by Carl Barks himself).

Mike Pohjola asked:

<<Could there be enough demand for such a book so as to make a proper one
with good-looking art 'n stuff?>>

We've already talked about such a book from either Archie (current holder
of the Hanna-Barbera/MGM properties currently owned by Ted Turner) or DC
(which may soon get them as a result of Time Warner's buyout of Turner; it
already has the rights to Warner Bros. stories like "Porky of the Mounties"),
but the chances don't seem high right now.

GLADSTONE:
Any chance of Dwight Decker's Beagle Boys gag being reprinted here soon?