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Bror Hellman
Paulo:

> Yesterday I read on italian teletext a short new reporting the
> beginning of a new problem for Disney: in the year 2003 the
> copyright of "Steambot Willie" will expire, and so on all the
> rights of the following Disney-realted products, comics
> included. Is it the end of our "priceless collections"? ;-) I
> can already see many pocket editions of all the Disney Comics
> butchered or manipulated by editors...

Of course they are worried.. And they should.

But the only thing that the (c)opyright expires for are the first few
movies.
And then by each year it will expire for movie after movie according to
release dates.

It is not as bad as you might think. first of all, comics have a longer
protected period.
75 years after the authors death in the U.S. if I'm not mistaken.

The characters themselves (like Micket Mouse) are more trademarks than
(c)opyright protected
characters. And trademarks never expire if you don't let them... :-)

Disney's worst moment will otherwise come around 2014 when it's time
for Snowhite and the
Seven Dwarfs...

Steamboat Willie
Fluks, H.W.
Soeren:
>According to the dcomics-list, I did not find any
>Van Horn art published in Denmark. Is this really the case?

If you mean the Disney comics Database, there certainly
are Danish reprints of Van Horn stories. I don't
know why you can't find them. Look for "rp-dk"
on the page:

http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/creators/william-van-hor
n-pindex.html

Alternatively, you can look on the following page:

http://home.pi.net/~fluks4/vanhorn.htm

--Harry.
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Fluks, H.W.
Francois wrote:
>These strips seem very odd, but are interesting! (DD and the boys are
>WASP?)

What is WASP?

--Harry.
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Fluks, H.W.
Paolo:
>just few days ago I was re-re-reading Barks' Donald
>Duck and the Parrott (WDCS#65 or Zio Paperone #23) and in the
>sixth page on the last panel is the VERY first appearance of
>Tabby, and in the third panel of the following page Donald calls
>him Tabby.

Maybe the Italian translation put "Tabby" (or the Italian
equivalent of that) in there. But what did the English original
say? (Anyone?)

>Well, what do you think if I force the people painted in the
>Michelangelo Cappella Sistina wear jeans?

The Disney comics are not considered artwork like the
Sixtine Chappel is. Disney comics are supposed to be
read by children (and adults) for entertainment. You have
to be able to read them without knowing any backgrounds
about how and when they were made. That's the main
difference between Michelangelo and the Disney
authors.
(BTW, if Disney owned the Sixtine Chappel, I'm sure they
would have ordered someone to paint jeans on the
ceiling!)

>This lets to something deeper: many american heroes from the
>forties or the fifties had a short life, while Mickey (at least
>outside USA) is still the most-well known comic-hero.

If you mean "inside Italy" in stead of "outside USA", you may
be right. But in big parts of Europe, Mickey is *NOT*
a well-known *comic* character. *Donald* is.

>IMHO it
>happened because of BILL WALSH and FLOYD GOTTFREDSON
>[...] then ROMANO SCARPA continued this tradition [...]

Scarpa can only have done this for Italy: in my country, for instance,
his stories are completely unknown. If people remember Mickey comics
at all, they are mainly PAUL MURRY stories they remember.

--Harry.
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Kriton Kyrimis
KATIE SULLIVAN:

> We do have rather boring money, don't we? ;-)

Don't let Uncle Scrooge ever catch you saying this!!!

DANIEL VAN EIJMEREN:

> for the Aswan Dam U$-story he aborted. (Whatever was made for that story,
> all that survived of it are two letters to fans in which he describes parts
> of it.)

By some strange coincidence, a similar story was written by Romano Scarpa.
(Colossus of the Nile, one of my all-time favorites.) As Scarpa had not
been aware of Barks' aborted story, it is yet another example of great
minds thinking alike.

> persons with bad intentions would have a
> very looong way to go if they want to get Don fired.

For some reason, this statement reminds me of Barks' "milkman" story.
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

> Now, having said this, are there people who can give me advice on
> programmes which have the ability to shrink images (height and width)
> without the automatic distortion?

If you have a paint program (like the shareware Paint Shop Pro), try the
"resample" option. I've only used it once to shrink an icon to half size,
but I was amazed by the quality of the reduced image. Even the letters
were still readable!
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"Reality might just prove to be out to a very long lunch."
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Mike Schneiderath
Hi!

Just a short note to let you know that there is a new page about
Disney Comics dealing with enviromental topics.
And you can find some Rosa artwork there!!
Just check out the page at:

http://members.xoom.com/duckhunt/index.html

And it would be nice if you would make an entry into the guestbook.
I know the one responsible for this page will be glad for every comment he
gets.

Thank you very much,

Mike
Mike Schneiderath
Sorry fot the multiple postings...I had a little disagreement with my
mail program.

Hi!

Just a short note to let you know that there is a new page about
Disney Comics dealing with enviromental topics.
And you can find some Rosa artwork there!!
Just check out the page at:

http://members.xoom.com/duckhunt/index.html

And it would be nice if you would make an entry into the guestbook.
I know the one responsible for this page will be glad for every comment he
gets.

Thank you very much,

Mike
D Decker
On Feb 9, 11:48am, Fluks, H.W. wrote:
> Subject: WASP
> Francois wrote:
> >These strips seem very odd, but are interesting! (DD and the boys are
> >WASP?)
>
> What is WASP?
>
It's an acronym for White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, referring to a large
demographic component of the American population (Protestants of English
descent). In practice, it's a bit fuzzy around the edges, since over the
centuries the English have mixed with other European population groups a bit.
It's less an accurate ethnographic description and more a popular
generalization, sometimes shading into outright ethnic pejorative depending on
how it's used.

--Dwight Decker
M. Mitchell Marmel
At 8:49 AM -0700 2/9/98, D Decker wrote:

>It's an acronym for White Anglo-Saxon Protestant

Oh! I thought DD and the boys were members of the World Aquatic Security
Patrol. ;)

-MMM-

"Stand by for action! Anything can happen in the next half-hour!"

--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #49
*****************************************
Mark A. Semich
As recently as a year ago, I've seen (and bought!) issues of "Mickey
Mouse Weekly" in shops around London - a nice, big magazine full of
Disney comics. Yet in the letters column of the latest issue of
Gladstone's WDC&S (#622), the magazine is refered to in the past
tense(!!) ("Mickey Mouse Weekly sounds like it was a great magazine")

Does anyone know whether or not MMW is still being published in England?

- M
Klaus Harms
DANIEL:

>It was sent by Matthias Hallin on 24 April 1992 and 'reprinted' on
>11 September 1997. (The stories mentioned are WDC 31, WDC 35, WDC 43,
>WDC 48, WDC 51 and WDC 56.)

I must have overlooked this, thanks for the information.

>> "Wenn ist das Nunstueck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! ... Beierhund das
Oder
>> die Flipperwaldt gersput." <I>Thomas Vorwerk falls laughing out of
>> tree.</I>
>
>Is this from a Mothy Python episode (a sketch about a joke that is so
>funny it is dangerous for one's health)?

Yes, it is from Monty Python's Flying Circus #1. They call it the
"Killer Joke" (and it had a similar effect on me when I heard it for the
first time).

>Greetings,
>
>--- Daniel (likes Monty Python)

Don't mention it.

--- Klaus (who is member of D.U.M.P.F. - Deutsche Unterorganisation der
Monty Python Fans)

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PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO,BARRETO
Greetings, Ducklings...

OTA:

> Wait a few issues more and you'll see the Brazilian production will
disappear almost completely . Editora Abril killed its Brazilian Comics
production line.

That's really bad news, but I'm not 100% surprised. We could notice
Abril has changed their modus operandi on recent Barks reprints: the
stories have been completely revamped, from the translation (now, way
more accurate, in my humble revisor's point of view) to the somewhat
murky coloring (I *suppose* they're importing stats instead of doing
them in-house) and the disappointing computer lettering.

Of course, reprints of classic material as Barks' are always welcome,
but as far as I can notice, Abril has been more positive in their
decision to exploit such stories as main features in regular titles
(since younger readers never read the previous Barks
re-re-re-reprints) rather than to regard them as collector's stuff.
However, that takes up much of the space conquerred by B-codes.

Furthermore, it seems Disney has been worked by Abril in all
conceivable printable ways in the last 48 years. About comics in
special, Abril made a modest start in their in-house production and
had an impressive growth in quality as well as in quantity. However,
B-codes had to suffer a quality curve, as they really did. Along with
it, in a context in which Abril lost their virtual monopoly in
mainstream comics, Mauricio thrives in Globo, there are so many new
media technologies to explore (with Abril playing in almost all of
them), Brazilian studios have accumulated a staggering stock of
B-codes ready to be reprinted, and kids are growingly stupidified and
feel disencouraged to read, the recent layoffs are just a logical outcome.

> Editora Abril is not
financially healthy presently, because they're investing heavily in
satellite-TV. By the way they have the exclusivity rights to the Disney
Channel.

... which will be offered only to super-duper-premium subscribers
because offering fair service for
their outlandish regular rates is not Abril's policy! Partly "thanks"
to Abril's greed, Brazil is "served" by one of the world's most
expensive subscription-TV services. Abril charges a mint but doesn't
lay an inch (say, a centimeter) of true cable, produces few decent
channels of their own and most of their lineup is filled with
uninteresting Hispanic-Miami-style-biased channels.

Fortunately, when Abril asks me why I quitted paying my pay-TV fees, I
can argument "Why don't you try to sell TV subscriptions to your
Disney comics studios ex-employees?" >:-)

[]s
P.C.Barreto
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Markoff
In Disney Comics Digest V98 #49, RICH BELLACERA writes:

>Subject: Re: RED WASP MYSTERY (Part 3 -WDC#319)
[...]
>I have now posted Part Three of Mickey Mouse in "The Red Wasp
>Mystery" to my webpage. Anyone interested can check it out at:

Then, in the same digest, HARRY FLUKS writes:

> What is WASP?

To which DWIGHT DECKER replies:

>It's an acronym for White Anglo-Saxon Protestant [...]

Is there a connection here? ;-)

All jokes aside, though, "The Red Wasp Mystery" is a neat story, IMHO.

**SPOILER****SPOILER****SPOILER****SPOILER****SPOILER**

The Red Wasp's existence seems strange; he's not given a proper
introduction, as if he's always been around, and after this story he just
disappears. I kept waiting for him to take off his face and show himself to
be one of the characters we'd been following all along, but he never
delivered. Elsewhere, the trip to Mars caught my attention, having just read
C. S. Lewis' Christian sci-fi novels OUT OF THE SILENT PLANET and
PERELANDRA. (Can't wait to go back and compare those with Barks' space
stories! :-) The ending seemed a bit rushed, though, as if the author had
just realized he was stretching his page quota. But this didn't detract from
my enjoyment.

***END SPOILER******END SPOILER******END SPOILER****

If only Gladstone would print more than just 8-16 pages of MM per month!

JOE TORCIVIA, CHRIS BARAT, etc:

Any idea who wrote this story? Carl Fallberg?

--Jonathan Markoff

"This CAN'T be the Red Wasp--he looks too dumb!"
--from the above mentioned story
Rich Bellacera
Hi y'all

LUNA STORTA:
>ABOUT TABBY THE CAT:
>I read in some messages about Fethry first appearance that in
>some of his stories there was the first appearance of Tabby the
>Cat, well, just few days ago I was re-re-reading Barks' Donald
>Duck and the Parrott (WDCS#65 or Zio Paperone #23) and in the
>sixth page on the last panel is the VERY first appearance of
>Tabby, and in the third panel of the following page Donald calls
>him Tabby.

By Jove, you're right! It took me a while to find a copy of "Joe from
Singapore" since I don't own WDC #65 or it's reprint in #420. I had
to dig through my boxes in the garage, and dust off my copy of Carl
Barks Library #7 where Tabby is indeed clearly named. He and even
appears in a story with Bolivar (which is something I was trying to
find.. that is...whether Tabby & Bolivar ever appear together. As far
as I can tell this is the only story foreign or domestic where this is the
case...unless someone knows of another case. It was my goal to
determine if any writers/artists ever recognized both Tabby & Bolivar
as Donald's pets *at the same time, in the same story*... apparently that
record belongs to Carl himself). ;-)

Strangely though, in this case Tabby is orange instead of white or
cream-colored as he later seems to always appear.

>ABOUT MUSCLES MCGURK:
>Uhm... at the moment I don't recall at all this charachter (I'm
>getting too old...) Who is him? Kreamo Katnera?

While I have yet to actually see this character (still waiting for
WDC #625 for this), I have it from very reliable authority that he
is a *pignose* character who is utilized ocassionally by Egmont in
MM stories. Kreamo is an entirely different character from a much
earlier era (also a different species).

STEFAN DIOS:
About Moby Duck & Roger Rabbit:

While I wouldn't call myself a *Moby Duck* fan, I do own nearly a
complete set of Moby Duck comics (but I'm just sick that way). ;-)
Anyhow, I decided to pull out the comic in question and actually reread
the story. Amazingly it was indeed a very pleasant and humorous
story... the Mirror's constant rattling off of names was funny. As for
your query about Roger Rabbit, I'm sure you were just being rhetorical
about it being Roger's first mention... I'm sure it was really just a matter
of alliteration by the author... Roger Rabbit does roll off the tongue
quite nicely... It is worth noting, though I'm not sure RR would truly
be considered part of the *Disney* universe...more likely a part of
the Disney-Speilberg-Warner Bros-et al Amalgamated Universe (though
Gary [no relation to Big or Li'l Bad] Wolf might have a few more words
on what exact universe he belongs to). ;-)

ABOUT SCANNING & POSTING:
Thank you guys for the suggestions, and I have taken this off-line for
more indepth conversations. Constructive suggestions are always
welcome. ;-)

ciao for now,

-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Just a quick pointer to Tony's On-Line Tips, Tony Isabella's daily on-line
review column:

http://www.wfcomics.com/tony/journal/j021098.vs

Today he spends considerable time reviewing WDC&S, most favorably.

-Augie
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