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H.W. FLUKS:

>I can't speak for Daniel, but *my* mail was only meant to explain the
>relations between Rosa and the Barks Studio, while mentioning facts
>only. And the reason for *that* was that (new) people keep asking about
>this, and apparently noone is willing to explain.

While you're right, my remarks were not aimed at you directly, I reiterate:

Anything written in this public forum becomes grist for the legal mill,
including opinions. Don has been legally exhonorated, but I know he would
just as soon forget about the whole thing. Right now he is daily reminded
of it.

DANIEL EIJMEREN:

>Simple, because people ask for it. Or would you rather see it apear in a
>magazine to which it's not very easy to get your corrections through? Or
>would you rather see it being replied in private mail, so that you don't
>have any control on it?

As I said to Harry, I think it's better to keep such things private, or
better still, left alone completely. I will say though, you did manage to
clear things up a bit with your last post about Don's rebuttals being
ignored in the booklet. Prhaps if you had stated in your fist message that
the accusations were absolutely untrue, rather than just that Don *said*
they were, I wouldn't have had to object to your post.

This is a very sensitive area for all parties concerned. I would hope that
everyone would respect the feelings of Don, Mr. Grandey, Mr. Barks, or
anyone else who might visit us here now or in the future. Enough damage was
done 2 years ago because these discussions got out of hand. Do we want it
to happen again?

THOMAS:
I think it's pretty sarcastic to wish Carl a "few last quiet years",
active as he is for his age. I think it would be more appopriate to
wish him all the best and that he won't be drawn into too much crap
with all that lawstuff.
Sometimes I truly do wish this world wouldn't be focused on capitalism
so much... that's what gets three out of four lawsuits started.

ALL: A few days ago I asked about the WALT DISNEY COMPANY's attitude
about Donald Duck in the United States. Does anybody maybe have an
opinion on this, and if so, what you like to share it with the other
members on the list? That would be very kind, thank you. Especially
since my question is one of the few on-topic ones that I've seen lately.

@#$%&!!!!!!!!

Still, have a good day, everybody!
==
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>> (co-author: Don Rosa (script and drawing)...I am just wondering co-whom?
>>;-)
> Why, Walt Disney, of course! Who else?

Some years ago, the Dutch Donald Duck weekly had a gag page now and
then. The page contained gags sent in by readers, and illustrated by
Gerard Leever. *Some* of the illustrations had a Disney character in it.
So the bottom of the pages read "Illustrations by Gerard Leever and Walt
Disney", as if *two* people were responsible for the drawings...

--Harry.

ALBERTO BECATTINI:

> Just wanted to say hello to all the folks on the Disney chatline.

Welcome!

JONATHAN MARKOFF:

> I just got WDC&S 622.

Thanks for your review! It has been very silent in giving reviews here
since Jorgen Andreas Bangor stopped sending them on the Norsk Disney
comics in (I guess) early 1996. Hopefully this will be a returning
tradition.

> "Mixed-up Mixer." Carl Barks has received and deserved much praise,
> but I don't consider his Gyro stories to be among his better work,

Maybe not his better work, but what I like in the Gyro-strories (mostly
the 4-page ones!) is the atmosphere in them and also the sometimes
philosophical contents. A guy talking to himself for 4 pages while a
little lightbulb-man is running around having his own adventure,
I think that's pretty original and entertaining. (IMO of course!!)

> "Digging For Trouble." The American script added in a few nice puns, but
> the story in general was weak. Lil Bad Wolf is a one-joke character
> anyway.

I don't which story you refer to, but there have been some marvelous Bad
Wolf stories! Have you ever read the parody on Dicken's Christmas Carol?
(The code is H/W//778.) If not, I can scan it and sent it to you. One of
the very best I've seen! (Unfortunately, it's in Dutch.)

DAN SHANE:

If the Lo$-page will be updated, will we finally see the complete artwork
of the first panel for "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies"? I'm also
curious for the 'lost' half-pages for "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad"
and "The Once and Future Duck" (Don made these for the one-part versions
of these stories.)

No, I don't trust anything that's 'shelved', because in the past it was
(almost) the same word as 'dustbin'. Even two complete ten-page Barks
stories got lost *forever* this way! (I still can't stand it!)

DANNY COENEN:

> Sometimes I truly do wish this world wouldn't be focused on capitalism
> so much... that's what gets three out of four lawsuits started.

You can certainly say that again!

> ALL: A few days ago I asked about the WALT DISNEY COMPANY's attitude
> about Donald Duck in the United States. Does anybody maybe have an
> opinion on this, and if so, what you like to share it with the other
> members on the list? That would be very kind, thank you.

Although you make a spontaneous comment a bit forced now, to be frankly,
my opinion on it is that Disney should give their comics-line a serious
approach and that they should handle it in a much more adult way:
literally and figurative. The way it seems now they're stripping down
stories and artist's work up to the very last panel, frustrating the
collectors and real fans.

This is not only limited to adults and fans. As a kid I read many stories
of Disney's 'black list' and they were big fun and exciting. Maybe the
people in charge should consider if they're not too overprotective towards
children. And as far as stereotypical art is concerned, I think that can
be a lot of *fun*. Being political correct as a puprose in itself is
boring, many countries make fun of other countries as is for example the
case between Dutch and Belgian people. As far as it's humourous and/or a
little satirical, I think this should be possible.

> Especially since my question is one of the few on-topic ones that I've
> seen lately.

Complaining about off-topic stuff is off-topic, too!

> @#$%&!!!!!!!!

23456711111111?

Greetings,

--- Daniel

About six years ago, when still living in the U.S., I bought two Duck albums
published back in 1985 in Great Britain by London Editions Limited. I read
the stories, liked them a lot, wrote to Mr. Seidman (?) of Disney Comics for
more information, but never found out anything more about them.

A couple of days ago, I decided to re-read these two stories, and my
curiosity was aroused again as to their background. Here's some more info on
them:

They were originally published by Ehapa Verlag in 1983. The English titles
of the two stories are: "High Jinks on the Matterhorn" and "The Rain God of
Uxmal". In the first story Scrooge and his newphews travel to Switzerland,
where they get involved in the cheese business and get tangled up with some
Japanese investors in the hotel business, with some funny results. In the
second, they travel to Uxmal, in the Mexican Yukatan peninsula, where they
encounter a lost Mayan city, perfectly preserved, and where Scrooge is
perceived by the Mayans to be the "Rain God".

Both stories are 44-page long with above average story-lines and superior
art. There are breath-taking half-page splash panels in both stories,
especially in the "Matterhorn" story, the art of which is really impressive.
Original idea and story is credited in both cases to Adolf Kabatek--with the
(british) english translation by Anne Kilborn.

No story-codes can be found at the beginning of both stories. Does anyone
have more information on these, and especially on the talented artist(s)
that drew them?

Cheers,

Archontis

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JONATHAN MARKOFF (discussing the latest WDC&S):
<<"Mixed-up Mixer." Carl Barks has received and deserved much praise, but I
don't consider his Gyro stories to be among his better work, and they've
already been reprinted. I think Gladstone could have found something better
to fill up 7 pages in the issue.>>

Though I agree with you on a philosophical level, I'll have to admit that it
was nice to read this story again -- because it was one of the stories
featured in the first batch of Gladstone comics I ever bought. Back in the
summer of 1986, while I was vacationing with family in Bethany Beach,
Delaware, I "discovered" the second month's worth of Gladstone issues in a
convenience store. Since I didn't have much reading material at hand, I read
them over again and again. I particularly remember getting a terrible case of
sun blisters on my back and having to read the comics while lying face down in
bed.

Any memory of the days when Gladstone comics were something fresh, new, and
exciting is welcome, I say.

<<"An Eye for Detail." It's a Rosa story, and has there EVER been a bad one of
these? Still, I see why Rosa doesn't consider it one of his better tales; as
10-pagers go it's no "On a Silver Platter." But I liked the plot which
hinged around one of the omnipresent but uncelebrated ingredients of Duck
mythology (much like Donald's car in WDC 617)--Donald's ability to
distinguish HDL by instinct. (One problem--why should Scrooge think it
strange when he has frequently demonstrated it himself?) I also liked the
appearance of Barks' hypnotist Mesmer J. Spellcaster.>>

The HDL-identification running gag lifted this tale out of the ordinary (=
Donald screwing up big time). Perhaps Scrooge thinks this nephew-
distinguishing ability is strange coming from DONALD. How many out of the
ordinary mental abilities has Donald ever demonstrated, after all?

-- Christopher E. Barat
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http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm

Is there someone out there who could help me and Joakim Gunnarsson obtain a
few Italian Disney books, especially copies of the LoS book and the I
Maestri Disney volumes devoted to Scarpa and Murry? Help would be DEEPLY
appreciated.

/Germund